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I just ordered a Nexus 4 a few hours ago. I was stuck between it and a Note 2 but in the end I went for the Nexus 4 and I'm hoping that I made the right choice.
The main thing I'm worried about is it cracking; apparently, some people have had the back of the phone crack without it being dropped. What would be my best bet to prevent said cracking? I imagine a full case would be best though I'd rather not have to use one if possible. Would a back screen protector prevent cracking (not from drops of course, but from normal use) or would I need a bumper as well?
Be careful and avoid any rapid changes in temperature. I am not going to case my phone, maybe the bumper at the most to prevent slippage, even non-strengthened glass is pretty tough. But yeah; don't be scorching your device with benchmarks and then set it down on a cold marble surface, juggling it, or setting it down on uneven surfaces and you should be set.
Not dropping it or bump it into anything (in your hand, pocket) and you'll be fine. Oh, and don't put it on the armrest of the couch.
The bumper can give you a extra safety boost.
I wish I was in a position to test this but in my mind something like the invisishield stuck on the glass should make it more resilient but I have no evidence other than my own logical though
That being that if you do place your phone down on anything slightly uneven the glass is having a concentrated pressure through a point in the glass. Thus it cracks at that point.
By applying an additional layer over the glass, as long as the phone isn't thrust into a single point of impact, simply laying the phone on an uneven surface the pressure would be spread over the surface more evenly.
A bit like if you try slapping your leg. It hurts. Now place your other hand on your leg and slap your hand on your leg. You still feel it and your other hand is in contact with your leg so the force should still transfer through but its actually much less.
Now someone would have to test this and find out at what thickness a film would have to be to have similar properties of protection but it should be possible. Well in my head anyway
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That's a good point. I also realized that keeping a transparent screen guard on the back glass makes it less slippery and less likely to slide off surfaces
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In-pocket flexing was an issue from one crack I read about. Be careful not to sit on the little bugger, or put it in your effing skinny jean pockets and do gymnastics.
I've been thinking that putting some small rubber feet on the back glass would help prevent it come in contact with surfaces. I do have a bumper case incoming which should prevent that problem anyway but I don't know when it will even arrive lol.
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Even though I love the phone without the case cause it looks great, but I wouldn't use it without a case for too long. I have bought front and rear protectors for xtremeguard and I bought me a clear TPU case for now. I do want the bumper case but that thing is impossible to get for now.
I've got a ton of scratches that are pretty deep all over my Nexus 4 that have been appearing since I got the phone. My last phone was an Atrix and after dropping it a few times I never cared to take that good of care with it and it has only very small scratches, none of which near as deep as the scratches I've been getting on the N4 which I take extremely good care of. I was one of the first to receive the Nexus 4. Is it possible that I got a bad phone or has the whole "bad batch" thing just been tossed around? I'm thinking of calling Google and asking but I would like input before that. Maybe I'd prevent wasting someones time... but if this thing really is defective in some way I would like a replacement.
I have the same problem as you. I've only dropped the thing once and I've always stored it in a pocket alone and yet I have tons of scratches all over. So much for gorilla glass. Let me know if you do call what the results are!
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The front of mine is still perfect after two weeks. The back has the protector on still and somehow there is a scratch near the camera.... I'm worried about taking it off until I get my case. Here in Toronto the only way to get a case for it is online shopping... My original case order was cancelled and I got scammed in the process so I had to order a new one that'll come in about a month -_-
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Seriously? You're gonna call Google and tell them what? You scratched your phone...not Google -_-… they didn't make the glass.
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Serious_Beans said:
Seriously? You're gonna call Google and tell them what? You scratched your phone...not Google -_-… they didn't make the glass.
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Did you read the post? Yeah I'll call them out if I get enough people saying they think it could be defective. I've seen a couple threads where people were saying they sent it back for scratches. I'm pretty much asking if people think there was a chance of actually having a defective device and if so could the glass be effected by that.
Glass is glass. It isn't a defect in your phone, you've just had bad luck with the phone and probably sand or other fine particles coming into contact with it.
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Pics or it didn't happen
i noticed scratches the 2nd day of use so i called Google and they sent me a replacement
1. It's glass. A single speck of sand will scratch it. It's glass.
2. Because it is glass, you would have been wise to invest $6 in a noninvasive front and back body skin to protect it. You don't think you need it, until you realize you did.
3. It isn't defective and Google won't help you.
Nospin said:
1. It's glass. A single speck of sand will scratch it. It's glass.
2. Because it is glass, you would have been wise to invest $6 in a noninvasive front and back body skin to protect it. You don't think you need it, until you realize you did.
3. It isn't defective and Google won't help you.
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1. You didn't have to say "its glass" twice
2. I purchased many different screen protectors and all of them where very annoying. This screen was especially designed to be super smooth and it is super oleophobic. Why ruin the experience with a screen protector?
3. I've heard of people saying that they could be defective and scratched too easily so and they even got an RMA. The person above you seems to have gotten one for the screen scratching. I have had cheap phones that I have taken horrible care of that have no scratches on their screen. I have also heard of people taking awful car of their nexus 4 and talking about how durable it was and how it still has no scratches. I've babbied this thing and had a screen protector on it through November to middle December. This all leads me to believe tat something is not right with the screen.
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As you say yourself, the glass on the Nexus 4 is meant to be oleophobic, which means that the glass is covered with an oleophobic coating, which scratches more easily than glass would. You just have to be even more careful with it.
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Chrono_Tata said:
As you say yourself, the glass on the Nexus 4 is meant to be oleophobic, which means that the glass is covered with an oleophobic coating, which scratches more easily than glass would. You just have to be even more careful with it.
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What? The Oleophobic layer is what makes it more scratch resistant. Friction is what causes scratches and if there's less friction then it lessens the possibility of scratches.
I swear people like to talk crazy stuff sometimes. I've had my phone for over a month now (ordered Nov 27 and received Dec 6th). The back of my device is perfectly scratch free now and i'm pretty gentle with my device as well. Dunno wtf you people are doing with your phones but I have no case or anything either and it's perfect still.
Err, no. The oleophobic layer is made of softer material than glass, so obviously it's going to scratch easier. Making something more slippery doesn't make it less easy to scratch.
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Umm NO, here's the word straight from the horses mouth:
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/COR_GG_WhtPaper_Easy-to-Clean.pdf
Go to page 4.
Abrasion Resistance
Scratch resistance was found to be an added benefit of the easy-to-clean coating on Corning Gorilla Glass. Test samples
comprising 1/2 coated and 1/2 non-coated regions were tested by wiping across both surface areas with 150 grit silicon carbide
sand paper, using the crock meter, for 40 passes (back and forth) at ~1.5 PSI. Surfaces were then tested for haze to determine the
degree in which optical appearance of scratches was mitigated. Figure 3 shows an optical photo of such a sample, exhibiting
significant scratching on the non-coated region whereas few visible scratches exist on the coating. Figure 4 demonstrates this
effect further, plotting haze for coated and non-coated glass regions and for chemically strengthened soda-lime glass.Test
conditions also showed a significant benefit for Corning Gorilla Glass over soda-lime glass (50-60% improvement), and further
benefit for the easy-to-clean coating (additional >75%).
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ADDING the oleophobic coating helps the glass to be more scratch resistant as well as the fingerprints and all that jazz too. Gorilla glass itself is tough but adding that layer helps protect the surface of the Gorilla Glass making it more scratch resistant.
If you want more info, go look up XDA TV and learn something or 2 as well. There was a girl (forget her name now) that explained gorilla glass for her Note 2 device in which she mentioned this as well with more details.
Ahhh found her, it's Erica:
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
OP, I agree that we shouldn't have to ruin the experience of the phone for the sake of everyday use. I've never had screen protectors and very rarely get scratches while living a fairly active lifestyle.
So far I've not had any scratches on the screen, even cycling with the phone in my pocket. I have been happy with the scratch resistance so far and would compare it to other phones of similar quality.
The back glass has not held up nearly as well, despite sharing the same pocket/conditions. I have a few hairline scratches, particularly over the nexus logo and unfortunately over the camera. My guess is that this happens while pulling the phone in/out of pocket and that is why they are clustered over the logo area.
I'm not sure how much a call to Google will do, can there be quality problems with glass that would cause some to scratch worse than others? QA issues causing breaking seem more likely. To answer your question though, I've not been babying the phone (well, maybe a little) and don't have a hint of a scratch on the screen after a month.
I don't think you can RMA it for scratches after having it for 2 months but it doesn't hurt to call and all they can do is say no.
I myself have no scratches, I should add yet here, and I received mine on November 27th. But it has never seen the inside of my pocket, I bought a belt clip case immediately that it sits in if I'm out and about. IME Pockets are too dangerous as my phones always ended up getting scratched in my pocket because I dropped change in there or put my keys in there by mistake.
I did finally put a screen protector (skinomi) on the front after about a month but I'm not happy with it, it does ever so slightly ruin the experience especially since it is too soft and gets marks in it and it has a dull look to it. But I'm being more than anal about watching out for scratches with this phone as it was an investment. Eventually I'm sure I won't give as **** anymore and start treating it like any other phone but right now paying $400 for a phone still stings a little.
Thanks for the links and I stand corrected. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, most users found that the display tends to get scratched more than other non-oleophobic glass so it was just generally assumed that the coating was the culprit. Obviously from Corning's documents this isn't the case with Gorilla Glass and their oleophobic coating.
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BravoMotorola said:
I've got a ton of scratches that are pretty deep all over my Nexus 4 that have been appearing since I got the phone. My last phone was an Atrix and after dropping it a few times I never cared to take that good of care with it and it has only very small scratches, none of which near as deep as the scratches I've been getting on the N4 which I take extremely good care of. I was one of the first to receive the Nexus 4. Is it possible that I got a bad phone or has the whole "bad batch" thing just been tossed around? I'm thinking of calling Google and asking but I would like input before that. Maybe I'd prevent wasting someones time... but if this thing really is defective in some way I would like a replacement.
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Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
VoiD_Dweller said:
Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
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+1 ... haven't dropped or scratched my phone. Using a bumper and a rearth slim for the first couple of days of having it.
hope i didnt jinx myself just now
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Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
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So did you read the post? That's exactly my point, I do take really good care of it. Now (again go read my posts) I did have an Atrix before this phone and tossed it around quite a bit and it has hardly any scratches that are as deep as the ones on the nexus. The only scratches it has are around the edge and can only be seen in the sunlight. I owned the Atrix for almost two years and never had a screen protector for it. I've owned this phone for only months, and its only gone one month without a screen protector. It seems new scratches appear each week and I'm doing everything to prevent them. It just makes no since why it would be collecting so many scratches in just a small amount of time.
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I don't think you can RMA it for scratches after having it for 2 months but it doesn't hurt to call and all they can do is say no.
I myself have no scratches, I should add yet here, and I received mine on November 27th. But it has never seen the inside of my pocket, I bought a belt clip case immediately that it sits in if I'm out and about. IME Pockets are too dangerous as my phones always ended up getting scratched in my pocket because I dropped change in there or put my keys in there by mistake.
I did finally put a screen protector (skinomi) on the front after about a month but I'm not happy with it, it does ever so slightly ruin the experience especially since it is too soft and gets marks in it and it has a dull look to it. But I'm being more than anal about watching out for scratches with this phone as it was an investment. Eventually I'm sure I won't give as **** anymore and start treating it like any other phone but right now paying $400 for a phone still stings a little.
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Just so you know, neither keys or pocket change will scratch your phone, its sand and the glass particles in dust you want to worry about.
Removing of pre-applied screen protector
When I got my XTZ, after removing the transport protector plastic sheets I noticed a certain resistance when touching and sliding, which makes it an unpleasant experience. I had some other tablets before and never noticed anything similar. After some hours of working and cleaning the tablet now and then, gliding got more and more smooth, it seems some evenly distributed lipids from the fingers solved the problem. What did not vanish was the slight electrostatic attraction that accumulated dust and fine fibers especially after cleaning. I'm using microfiber cloth.
Now I learned the XTZ has a pre-applied screen protector, that seemed to explained all. After some investigation and finding not very much, I decided to remove the protector. Armed with a spare blade cutter I picked a grip in one edge. Pulling it with considerable force at a very pointed angle, I slowly removed the protector completely.
As a first result I noticed a slightly sharper display, especially text seemed more crisp and contrasty.
The protector had already started to become a little milky, now highlights had no more halos at all.
No wonder, the electrostatic attraction vanished completely, cleaning the display leaves no residue on the surface anymore. Also the gap between glass and plastic frame does not collect particles this easy as with the protector.
To get a smooth experience for touching and sliding some 'use and cleaning cycles' were needed, as with the protector. Only a very little sticking of the fingers when typing is palpable now, but maybe this will disappear too.
Protectors are also known to hinder glass shattering of crashing devices. This might be well true for phones, but would it also have effect on tablet sized glasses? And, how often did my mobile take an unintended flight, oh yeah some times. But the well cared for tablet? Never - up to now.
At a last consideration, I can't imagine to have lost guaranty by removing the protector, when it is worn-out some day, it has to be replaced.
If you plan to remove your protector too, be very slow and careful! The force you have to pull with is remarkable, take care also on proper holding the tablet and not to damage any buttons or water blocking caps!
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Hi,
Did the sony logo stay on the device? It looks like it from the screen shot
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The logo still on the device after removing protector...
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you removed the Anti Shatter Film, its has been discussed earlier also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375843
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Removing of pre-applied screen protector
When I got my XTZ, after removing the transport protector plastic sheets I noticed a certain resistance when touching and sliding, which makes it an unpleasant experience. I had some other tablets before and never noticed anything similar. After some hours of working and cleaning the tablet now and then, gliding got more and more smooth, it seems some evenly distributed lipids from the fingers solved the problem. What did not vanish was the slight electrostatic attraction that accumulated dust and fine fibers especially after cleaning. I'm using microfiber cloth.
Now I learned the XTZ has a pre-applied screen protector, that seemed to explained all. After some investigation and finding not very much, I decided to remove the protector. Armed with a spare blade cutter I picked a grip in one edge. Pulling it with considerable force at a very pointed angle, I slowly removed the protector completely.
As a first result I noticed a slightly sharper display, especially text seemed more crisp and contrasty.
The protector had already started to become a little milky, now highlights had no more halos at all.
No wonder, the electrostatic attraction vanished completely, cleaning the display leaves no residue on the surface anymore. Also the gap between glass and plastic frame does not collect particles this easy as with the protector.
To get a smooth experience for touching and sliding some 'use and cleaning cycles' were needed, as with the protector. Only a very little sticking of the fingers when typing is palpable now, but maybe this will disappear too.
Protectors are also known to hinder glass shattering of crashing devices. This might be well true for phones, but would it also have effect on tablet sized glasses? And, how often did my mobile take an unintended flight, oh yeah some times. But the well cared for tablet? Never - up to now.
At a last consideration, I can't imagine to have lost guaranty by removing the protector, when it is worn-out some day, it has to be replaced.
If you plan to remove your protector too, be very slow and careful! The force you have to pull with is remarkable, take care also on proper holding the tablet and not to damage any buttons or water blocking caps!
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You have NOT removed any screen protector at all, what you have done is remove the factory fitted screen anti shatter membrane! A screen protector can be placed on top of the membrane and is sold either by Sony sores direct or other brands via Amazon et al.
I am always simply amazed how purchasers of such devices appear so unable to read the manual that comes with it and avoid making such an awful mistake.
Further. To write here that you removed the anti shatter membrane can only give other members misinformation.
Please do some research before you take such an unwise action then write about it here.
I dont understand why some people wants to remove the antishatter film..
Is it necessary or just "wants" to remove it.
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its their device and everyone is free to do anything with their money
i cant understand the venom ?
OK I made a mistake
I did not know the difference between a simple 'screen protector' and the 'factory fitted screen anti shatter membrane'. I did some research but dug not deep enough.
BUT I read manuals
XTZ Userguide
A protective plastic sheet is already attached to the screen of your device when you buy
it. You should peel off this sheet before using the touchscreen. Otherwise, the
touchscreen might not function properly.
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Aha, means the transport protection sheet.
XTZ Userguide
The device screen is made from glass. Do not touch the screen if the glass is cracked or
shattered. Avoid trying to repair a damaged screen yourself. Glass screens are sensitive to
drops and mechanical shocks. Cases of negligent care are not covered by the Sony warranty
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Hm, no word from a shatter protection.
XTZ Whitepaper
Scratch-resistant Shatter-proof sheet on scratch-resistant glass
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That's it, the anti shatter membrane. Seems to be scratch-resistant .
AND Plastic is not Glass
My anti shatter protection is gone and I didn't miss it (yet). Now after some time without it I sum up, as I already wrote in my opening post
- the screen isn't electrostatic anymore
- screen is easier to clean
- fingers slide smoother
- display is sharper
WARNING
Remove it at your own risk!
Freedom is to do it anyway ...
After a long consideration I have also decided to remove the anti-shatter screen. To me it makes the feel not so great as sheer glass, it collects a lot of dust and fingerprints and also I believe that it makes the screen not so sharp.
I waited until I got my case and now I have it I already once tried to remove the screen but couldn't get hold from the corner and I was a bit afraid to damage the table if use too much force with the knife.
Bad thing about this is that you actually lose your warranty. But not so afraid of shattering the screen as I never use any screen membrane protectors and only one device (SGS3) I have managed to shatter the screen after dropping it down.
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its their device and everyone is free to do anything with their money
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I totally agree with this with certain provisos. May I go off topic for just a second? We enjoy 'freedom of speech', does that freedom mean we can enter a cinema packed with people and shout FIRE? We have the freedom to do such a thing but to me freedom should come with responsibility. Here is my point. It is fine, though unwise, to remove the shatter proof film. There are two follow ups to that. One being that this is a public forum and is read by members new to the world of technology and may copy such an action. Secondly it is my bitter experience that those who abuse their devices are so often the first to complain when things go wrong?
Sony advertising is not in my opinion very helpful and honest regarding the Z mobile phone and the Z tablet. Sony clearly show in their advertising the tablet being used in a swimming pool. If you read the manual you will see the device is water resistant to a given industry criteria BUT Sony at the same time write not to expose the tablet to chemicals? Swimming pools contain the some of the very chemicals Sony write we must avoid?
To me the water resistance is just a protection against accidental contact with rain or tap water. It is Sony themselves that show clips that are in reality contrary to their own set of criteria. Make no mistake if one uses the tablet or phone in the sea or swimming pool and the seals become corroded Sony agents will be the first to refuse warranty work if the phone or tablet becomes damaged. All the Sony agents need to do is refer to the basic user manual.
Like it or not some owners are taking their tablets and phones surfing, white water rapids, swimming, in the sea, sauna etc. There are You tube clips of some owners cooking their devices in soup and some utter idiot cooking the mobile in chocolate?
To close. I agree we are free and that freedom has come at great cost so lets respect that freedom and use it with responsibility in particular when posting on a public forum?
I thought the purpose of the ASF was not to prevent the glass screen from shattering/cracking, but to prevent shattered/cracked glass from falling out, and potentially causing damage to persons holding the device.
I am very careful with my tablet (it was not cheap), I am confident that it will not be damaged. I have removed the ASF and agree with qshoo - the screen is much smoother, and clearer, and best of all it does not attract dust. I previously had an anti-glare screen protector on my tablet, but decided that it did dull the screen, and was less virbrant. For the moment I am happy without any sort of film on the screen.
Aid777 said:
I thought the purpose of the ASF was not to prevent the glass screen from shattering/cracking, but to prevent shattered/cracked glass from falling out, and potentially causing damage to persons holding the device.
I am very careful with my tablet (it was not cheap), I am confident that it will not be damaged. I have removed the ASF and agree with qshoo - the screen is much smoother, and clearer, and best of all it does not attract dust. I previously had an anti-glare screen protector on my tablet, but decided that it did dull the screen, and was less virbrant. For the moment I am happy without any sort of film on the screen.
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What is the best way to start peeling this off? I can't get hold of the ASF even if try to get corner out with a knife.
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I had some trouble, and kind of chipped away at the edge of the ASF, then it came away, I was a little worried to start with. I used a very small orange handled kitchen knife:fingers-crossed:
I used a cutter with a new blade moved out some centimeters, working only with the first segment of the blade. A 9 mm blade is a little flexible and this helped coming beneath the ASF without cutting the tablets body ...
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I totally agree with this with certain provisos. May I go off topic for just a second? We enjoy 'freedom of speech', does that freedom mean we can enter a cinema packed with people and shout FIRE? We have the freedom to do such a thing but to me freedom should come with responsibility. Here is my point. It is fine, though unwise, to remove the shatter proof film. There are two follow ups to that. One being that this is a public forum and is read by members new to the world of technology and may copy such an action. Secondly it is my bitter experience that those who abuse their devices are so often the first to complain when things go wrong?
Sony advertising is not in my opinion very helpful and honest regarding the Z mobile phone and the Z tablet. Sony clearly show in their advertising the tablet being used in a swimming pool. If you read the manual you will see the device is water resistant to a given industry criteria BUT Sony at the same time write not to expose the tablet to chemicals? Swimming pools contain the some of the very chemicals Sony write we must avoid?
To me the water resistance is just a protection against accidental contact with rain or tap water. It is Sony themselves that show clips that are in reality contrary to their own set of criteria. Make no mistake if one uses the tablet or phone in the sea or swimming pool and the seals become corroded Sony agents will be the first to refuse warranty work if the phone or tablet becomes damaged. All the Sony agents need to do is refer to the basic user manual.
Like it or not some owners are taking their tablets and phones surfing, white water rapids, swimming, in the sea, sauna etc. There are You tube clips of some owners cooking their devices in soup and some utter idiot cooking the mobile in chocolate?
To close. I agree we are free and that freedom has come at great cost so lets respect that freedom and use it with responsibility in particular when posting on a public forum?
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i agree fully with your point of view. As a matter of fact i wont even think of removing the shutter proof covering since sony has reasons for applying it in the first place. it has been stated that this cover is very expensive ( costs some $40/50) and will void the warranty. but still if people choose to remove it its their prerogative.
honestly speaking for me the argument that the feel is great, scrolling is easier, viewing is great is all propaganda to give validity to their decisions.
Propaganda?
I was ready to apply a new protector if the protector-less operation wouldn't work out and if the people who advocate removing the protector would be wrong.
But This - Was - Not - The - Case. Bam. I would feel the application of a new protector as a deterioration, a ho-hum compromise. But why should I? I always handle devices very careful and am not afraid of screens breaking. And if it should happen - my god, such things happen,the world won't end. I'm not like these overly German Germans who look for security, security, security in all areas of their (boring) lifes and even drive bicycles with ludicrous helmets on their heads...
How can you judge it if you yourself never tested the tablet protector-less yourself??
... so I'm one of the few Germans who removed their screen protector? ...
why not sunbath naked in a beach at noon without any sunscreen and then boast i love to experiment. :laugh:
jokes apart, for me $599 is way too much to experiment. but yes if the screen cracks coz of my mistake with or w/o a screen protector or with or w/o a case i will be sad coz it was my hard earned money.
p.s my XTZ is not covered by any warranty.
So I was a idiot and pushed my luck by not putting a case on this thing cause videos had shown me it was very duriable..well watching a video with friends about how duriable it is, i had dropped it from literally 1 and a half feet, landed on its left corner and cracked from the volume button to the S in samsung, it doesnt look that deep or to even be a crack, at first i thought it was a scratch but it seems to.be a light scratch, so I was curious if it was still waterproof, like using in the shower or rain, or if it fell in the sink or if it fell in the bath tub. $200 to repair the screen is ridiculous.
bump? seriously wondering about this
It probably depends primarily on whether it went all the way through. If it didn't I'd think you're still waterproof. If it did, it still might be if it's holding tight enough, but obviously that's now a pathway in. Really hard to judge that without seeing the crack/scratch in person...and even then it's pretty tough to tell.
Guys
I kicked a ball at my Window the other day, Its now marked, do you think it will still be weather proof?
This thing that may be a scratch or crack, do you think it will still keep the cold out.
Just wondering what you thoughts are on my cracked screen.
(use your imagination if you want to see it)
I also have a hole in my Umbrella, You think it will leak?
it is late to reply, but I can suggest.
in Samsung phones, front and back glass are stuck to the phone by strong glue all over. now if your display is intact but has damaged glass, the display and glass are glued all together. even if your glass is broken badly, water can touch the OLED screen but can't cause any damage to display. still, the phone is water resistant. still, water can't penetrate inside the phone.
So I've been using this LS993 which is the Sprint version, for about 3 days now. It looks like the lens that covers both rear cameras is all scratched up. I ordered a case for the phone but it's not arriving untill tomorrow. I believe a case would have prevented this from happening but too late now. Do you think Sprint would exchange for a new one, or do you think LG would do anything about it? Thanks for any input.
They will not exchange for a new one unless you claim a manufacturer defect or something. FWIW, case would have probably done little to prevent that as almost all cases I've seen don't cover the camera. Maybe offered some protection by raising whatever could be rubbing against the lens off the phone a bit. But against sand or keys it's no match. The camera is Gorilla Glass 4 I believe, but just goes to show you that it can still be scratched.
I have cut out and placed an old screen protector over my cameras to prevent exactly this. With the camera being flush to the phone, there's no protection.
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Are you sure there is no sticker on the lens that you need to remove?
Pretty sure there isn't. I've picked at the edges with no luck. I can't believe the glass would scratch that easily though. It had to have been from just setting the phone down on the table or kitchen counter.
bowhunt2005 said:
Pretty sure there isn't. I've picked at the edges with no luck. I can't believe the glass would scratch that easily though. It had to have been from just setting the phone down on the table or kitchen counter.
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Granite will scratch it. There's a durability test out there that mentions this...
I ordered a case before I even got my phone. Helps with gripping when taking shots and it won't slip out of the hand as easily...
Mine is 5 days old and also all scratched up. It has been in a case from the 1st hour. It seems that even rubbing it with a cotton shirt seems to scratch it even more. I'm going to asking for a replacement or possibly switching to the S8. This is a defect!!
Have you guys seen this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg6/comments/64h13y/how_to_fix_camera_scratches/
Someone's claiming that the glass itself isn't what's scratched but rather a coating that comes off.
Obscure Reference said:
Have you guys seen this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg6/comments/64h13y/how_to_fix_camera_scratches/
Someone's claiming that the glass itself isn't what's scratched but rather a coating that comes off.
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Yes the same person posted on XDA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/camera-lens-scratches-t3587051/page2
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Yes the same person posted on XDA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/camera-lens-scratches-t3587051/page2
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Saw that after I posted.
I just bought a g6 and had the same issue. I had a screen protector from thebforst minute I got it but it scratched anyway on the rear camera lens. I thought maybe there was a plastic film protecting the lens but couldn't pull anything off. I then returmed into trouble and got another one and the same exact thing happened??? I have not been near the beach or anything so I'm not sure where the scratches came from? So I'm temporarily using a film screen protector to protect it until I figure out what the deal is with this rear glass. I was a le to chat with only and she did say there was a film on the rear camera lens but again when I tried to pick the corners nothing happened. I really dont known what to think because if I take it back to T-Mobile they will think I'm nuts. But this does cause an issue with the camera. The pics get a bad, bad flare for night pics with street lamps. When the lens is clear the flare doesnt happen. What do we do? I will try and call lg again but the people in the phone arent technical. I kmow I read the post where he says there is a coating that you buff off but should that coating be there? I dont want to ship it to lg because I need a phone for work plus they repair centers never tell you what they did to fix it? Is there a film? If there is Jerry rig didnt mention it on his testing. How can we confirm what the true issue is? For 650 I better get camera quality I expect for that kind of money. I dont want to give it back because I dont want a big bezeled phone, plus I dont like Samsung or apple. The only phone to get is the oneplus3t but they are rolling out the one plus 5 in a month and that will be bezeless. I feel screwed
Same issue here. Multiple G6 handsets including mine and my manager's. All with scratches. Almost all had cases. I am very careful with my device. Seems that if you just look at it wrong it scratches.
Other than polishing the coating off the lens as someone else here has done, you can cover the lens with a lens protector until they come out with a tempered glass version. Several have deduced it is the coating that is getting scratched, not the glass.
Currently I am using the Nillkin H+PRO since it was the only thing available at the time. I reviewed it here and it has pictures... comes with a tempered glass screen protector for front, two camera lens matte protectors and installation kit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71921533&postcount=50
I highly suggest to do this until you either you decide to polish, purchase tempered glass protection, etc. No reason to allow it to get worse. I think once a tempered glass protection comes out for the camera lens I will be good to go.