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Developer support for I9500 and I9505?

Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?​
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?

dafabsl said:
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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recklesslife85 said:
The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.

hung2900 said:
Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.
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I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?

dafabsl said:
Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?​
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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Many of us are probably getting the Snapdragon version. Easier to develop plus many devices are using it.

dafabsl said:
I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?
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No that's snapdragon
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TingTingin said:
No that's snapdragon
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daaaamn..
this german site here http://www.cnet.de/88108212/samsung-galaxy-s4-exynos-octa-5-kommt-nach-deutschland/
said the i9505 would be the one with octa :/
I really hoped that, because i won't use lte and in Austria we almost don't use lte and lte is really expensive, and I read that the Octa processor will be better for battery life

I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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TingTingin said:
I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...

dafabsl said:
Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...
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The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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TingTingin said:
The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/

dafabsl said:
hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/
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Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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TingTingin said:
Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.

Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.
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But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..

dafabsl said:
But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..
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this is how it looks to me ...
look at the previous galaxy and note series.. the non-lte version is available in almost all countries.. hence has the most dev support..
but in s4's case., since they cant mass produce exynos octa YET., they decided to use snapdragon even in countries outside the u.s... that's the only way to make s4 available to all countries..
they wanted to be the first to use octa chip?.. they sure am now.. but why rush releasing it when they cant give all people this octa feature they boast about?.. that's because they dont want xperia z and htc one to have all the spotlight..
and the result is what OP is asking now..
since the u.s. and most european countries will have I9505., the logical answer is the snapdragon will have more dev support.. and even have the higher chance to have cm..

Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?

lazylilsnoop said:
Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo

AW: Developer support for I9500 and I9505?
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo
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Why wouldn't there be a CM for the sgs4?

Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
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From your comment one would assume u know what your talking about it seems u have been misled
Octa is better on battery life I'm really not going to explain this again it is also more powerful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
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Great thread and very good question OP. Right now, it looks like the snapdragon version will be the most dev friendly since it'll be the one sold in big markets ( US, UK, Germany....). I wish that the exynos 5 octa had LTE included. The note 2 had the same processor everywhere in the world and that was great.

Cyanogenmod on the Galaxy Note 4?

Is there any news or release date of Cyanogenmod for the Galaxy Note 4?

I have been waiting and wondering about this too...

But i think if we dont use stock rom our spen cant have full features

honhan0904 said:
But i think if we dont use stock rom our spen cant have full features
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Yup, you gonna lose
camera options
spen features
fingerprint
any many many more
for me the current performance of the note 4 is amazing.

aHanSolo said:
Is there any news or release date of Cyanogenmod for the Galaxy Note 4?
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From what I've read, CyanogenMod will also only work on the Snapdragon version and not the Exynos version. I am a long time user and fan of CM and am using it on my current phone. This makes the decision very difficult when buying the Note 4, whether or not to get the Snapdragon or the Exynos version. I am ready to give up CM and just use a different ROM if it makes sense to do so. I'm sure there are many other good ROM's with an experience close to CM, the main thing for me is a pure Android experience without the bloat.
It seems the die hard tech guys really love the Exynos version. But it seems the battery life is questionable in Exynos, where it has been proven (so far) in Snapdragon. I haven't found any in-depth reviews on YouTube for example on the Exynos that claim outstanding battery, but I've found multiple for Snapdragon. The second issue is the camera, apparently there is a difference there as well, but I haven't found any direct comparisons.
It seems like the safer choice would be the Snapdragon. But, to further complicate things, it seems like Snapdragon is mainly a US-market part number. I live in South America, and our LTE frequencies are different. I am concerned about buying a carrier phone (Tmo, Verizon, AT&T) because (a) it might be locked and require jumping through hoops to get them to unlock it, (b) it is physically branded, (c) different carrier specific frequencies?
All of this is really a challenge! I simply want to give someone my money! I want a Note 4! But Samsung is making it extremely difficult for someone like me. I live in Ecuador and am on Claro/Movistar.

S5 or S5 prime?

Ok,
I am planning to get a S5 prime.It is a monster,I really want it.(No I don't have the money to get an NOTE 4 and it is very big) ok anyways.Is it actually a good idea? I mean I really very happy with all the reviews it has but I am only upset that I doesn't have and Coustom ROMS(Only 1) so if in future it doesn't get updated by Samsung I won't have any option to upgrade it.I really want to know, Is anybody developing any roms or Will XDA have a sub category for it?

So you are buying a phone based on what XDA might be doing? LOL dude, just get a phone that does what you need, or get a Nexus if you want to mod like crazy.

itskhaledmohammad said:
Ok,
I am planning to get a S5 prime.It is a monster,I really want it.(No I don't have the money to get an NOTE 4 and it is very big) ok anyways.Is it actually a good idea? I mean I really very happy with all the reviews it has but I am only upset that I doesn't have and Coustom ROMS(Only 1) so if in future it doesn't get updated by Samsung I won't have any option to upgrade it.I really want to know, Is anybody developing any roms or Will XDA have a sub category for it?
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By prime do you mean the Korean model or the in between which has the 805 CPU but 1080p screen? (901 I think)
Korean model doesn't have much development, but there is some hope. Check the last two pages of the topic - http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/sm-g906s-k-l-owner-thread-t2807639
Hardware wise it's a great phone which was the best of 2014, and will still hold it's own in 2015 with 3GB of ram and quad-hd.

Audioboxer said:
By prime do you mean the Korean model or the in between which has the 805 CPU but 1080p screen? (901 I think)
Korean model doesn't have much development, but there is some hope. Check the last two pages of the topic - http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/sm-g906s-k-l-owner-thread-t2807639
Hardware wise it's a great phone which was the best of 2014, and will still hold it's own in 2015 with 3GB of ram and quad-hd.
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Yes. The 906S model. Any Hopes?

itskhaledmohammad said:
Yes. The 906S model. Any Hopes?
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If you want a slightly more powerful device, get it. Otherwise if you want more dev support, get the SM-G900F

906s is the most powerful. But little to no dev support. And still waiting for lollipop to hit.
Sent from my SM-G906S

take 901F, 900F is stopped in all europe, so necessarry dvp will be big on 901F, and 901F is faster than 906.

[DISCUSSION] CM for the Galaxy S7 Exynos/Qualcomm

I am currently owning the Galaxy S6 but I really want to sell it and buy the s7 just because i want to use microsdcards again and whatherproofness is also very cool for me
so something what i really care about is development for the device wich i will buy...
i am pritty sure that the Qualcomm S7 will get Cm builds maybe also official builds but i live in germany where the Qualcomm variant is not sold. so i will need to stick with the exynos version.
the galaxy s6 also has CM aviable with its exynos processor... since now all Galaxy S (exynos) devices got cm in any time:
- Galaxy S2
- Galaxy S3
- Galaxy S4 exynos
- Galaxy S5 exynos (very buggy build tho)
- Galaxy S6
what do u think about cm on Galaxy S7

http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/developer-discussion-custom-kernels-t3338351
No custom kernel thus far.
BTW, S2~6 are official builds?
From what I gather, Samsung has nearly zero motivation to contribute to open source and custom roms, unlike Motorola, Sony, HTC, etc. Which makes it kinda hard for devs to support their phones.
If you have an inside contact at Samsung, by all means let them know.

It has been discussed on so many topics already... CM (or any aosp type of rom for that matter) is pretty much impossible on the Exynos, even if someone gets something to boot, it will always be super broken and full of bugs. As for the Snapdragon variant.. CM should be very possible I guess but the problem is, it seems like every variant that comes with the snapdragon cpu has their bootloaders locked to hell... so... Until someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloaders... No luck there either. If your reason for buying an S7 is development and AOSP projects... I suggest you buy some other phone.

-Ric- said:
It has been discussed on so many topics already... CM (or any aosp type of rom for that matter) is pretty much impossible on the Exynos, even if someone gets something to boot, it will always be super broken and full of bugs. As for the Snapdragon variant.. CM should be very possible I guess but the problem is, it seems like every variant that comes with the snapdragon cpu has their bootloaders locked to hell... so... Until someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloaders... No luck there either. If your reason for buying an S7 is development and AOSP projects... I suggest you buy some other phone.
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the fact ist that they have said the same for galaxy s3 exynos and galaxy s6 exynos
both have pritty much stable builds.
i am using aosp or cm roms only when the phone gets outdated and getting no update from samsung.
so this isnt that important to me

<galaxylove> said:
the fact ist that they have said the same for galaxy s3 exynos and galaxy s6 exynos
both have pritty much stable builds.
i am using aosp or cm roms only when the phone gets outdated and getting no update from samsung.
so this isnt that important to me
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* What’s working */
Basic 2D graphics
Wi-Fi
AP hotspot
Audio
Microphone
SMS/MMS/Mobile Data(3G, LTE)
Call
Sensors
NFC
LED(WIP)
MTP
Suspend(deep-sleep)
/* What’s not working */
Camera
GPS
Hardware accelerated video/audio encoding/decoding
Proper 3D graphics
Listing network operator
Everything else.
Even what’s listed on “What’s working” has room to improve and may have some serious bugs.
With 2D graphics, there are noticeable framedrops and tearing
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is that your idea of stable?

-Ric- said:
is that your idea of stable?
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no but the rom is at least useable...
the galaxy s3 has very good dev support this is clear...
they said also for both devices that it is fully impossible. but actually the devs made it

<galaxylove> said:
no but the rom is at least useable...
the galaxy s3 has very good dev support this is clear...
they said also for both devices that it is fully impossible. but actually the devs made it
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no it's not usable, sorry. even 2D graphics are broken in it. Unless Samsung has a change of heart and releases the full source for Exynos phones, forget it. And Samsung having is a change of heart is never gonna happen since almost all their customers don't care about root/custom Roms. The only hope is someone figuring out how to unlock the bootloaders on the Qualcomm variants

-Ric- said:
no it's not usable, sorry. even 2D graphics are broken in it. Unless Samsung has a change of heart and releases the full source for Exynos phones, forget it. And Samsung having is a change of heart is never gonna happen since almost all their customers don't care about root/custom Roms. The only hope is someone figuring out how to unlock the bootloaders on the Qualcomm variants
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This is the problem every year with Samsung phones. It is not Samsung Mobile division that does not release the Exynos sources, there are other divisions of Samsung which will simply not allow the Exynos sources to be released (for newer devices)

http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
Best bet would be someone found a hack on Snapdragons to root the phones and then install custom ROM.
For Exynos I think we can safely say goodbyes. Anything else is wishful thinking. Sorry to say that but I think that's true. (or you can start a 100-day hunger strike in front of the Samsung HQ and see how it goes.)

I am a student from china but now I study in germany and get the SD820 version from china....

007zzz said:
I am a student from china but now I study in germany and get the SD820 version from china....
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I would get the Mi5, its has already an rather stable CM13 out.

NisseGurra said:
I would get the Mi5, its has already an rather stable CM13 out.
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Mi5 doesn't have microSD card and uses Type-C cables.
Not to mention that the radio firmware is probably bugged by the Chinese government.

optionalmgrr.la said:
Mi5 doesn't have microSD card and uses Type-C cables.
Not to mention that the radio firmware is probably bugged by the Chinese government.
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It has 128 GB internal storage and Type C cables thats an plus in my book.

I have this feeling where i really just like sansumg's phones hardware and in special it's new look, but then is the fact that my S5(exynos) still stuck in 5.0 bugged as hell rom and there still no 6.0. The Qualcomm counter part have great CM support but there still nothing for the S7.
I will probably have to get either a nexus(2016) or a Huawei p9 which looks really nice too, also I'm thinking about the HTC 10 mmm.

Advice please- Is the Note 4 still worth buying now at end of 2016?

Hi there
I am currently on a Galaxy S4 running a stable version of Nougat - CM14, however I am looking to upgrade to a phone that has much custom ROM support- especially CyanogenMod.
Because I will only get a phone that has CyanogenMod support, I assume the Exynos variant will not be viable. Will the Note 4 have official CM14 support? When did the Note 4 receive CM13?
I am looking to buy a phone around £300 and the screen has to be at least 5.7inches. Would the Note 4 still be a good option now?
Or should I go with another phone?
All advice is welcomed... Thanks

Apad121 said:
Hi there
I am currently on a Galaxy S4 running a stable version of Nougat - CM14, however I am looking to upgrade to a phone that has much custom ROM support- especially CyanogenMod.
Because I will only get a phone that has CyanogenMod support, I assume the Exynos variant will not be viable. Will the Note 4 have official CM14 support? When did the Note 4 receive CM13?
I am looking to buy a phone around £300 and the screen has to be at least 5.7inches. Would the Note 4 still be a good option now?
Or should I go with another phone?
All advice is welcomed... Thanks
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Well it's a very hard choice i feel you.. note 4 is a great phone with a v.good development support but for me i am a bit scared for loosing my warranty knox is 0x0. lots of people are facing emmc failure "means" you phone will lag,freeze till the motherboard dies. So no one knows what is causing this problem. So my recommendation for you is to go for another phone manufacturer.. cheers
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Amar.B said:
Well it's a very hard choice i feel you.. note 4 is a great phone with a v.good development support but for me i am a bit scared for loosing my warranty knox is 0x0. lots of people are facing emmc failure "means" you phone will lag,freeze till the motherboard dies. So no one knows what is causing this problem. So my recommendation for you is to go for another phone manufacturer.. cheers
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Ok thanks for your reply. So the Note 4 has some strange problems okay.
What phone would you recommend for under £300 that has good development support?
Thanks

Apad121 said:
Ok thanks for your reply. So the Note 4 has some strange problems okay.
What phone would you recommend for under £300 that has good development support?
Thanks
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Nexus 6p all the way
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Amar.B said:
Nexus 6p all the way
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Hi again
The Nexus 6p is a great phone however I don't think I am able to get it in the UK for under £300.
I am also a little reluctant to get a phone without Wireless Charging...
Anyway thanks for the suggestion, do you have other suggestions as well?
Thanks

Apad121 said:
Hi again
The Nexus 6p is a great phone however I don't think I am able to get it in the UK for under £300.
I am also a little reluctant to get a phone without Wireless Charging...
Anyway thanks for the suggestion, do you have other suggestions as well?
Thanks
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really hard to find one has all the features as the note 4 lets see what others would suggest
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Apad121 said:
Hi there
I am currently on a Galaxy S4 running a stable version of Nougat - CM14, however I am looking to upgrade to a phone that has much custom ROM support- especially CyanogenMod.
Because I will only get a phone that has CyanogenMod support, I assume the Exynos variant will not be viable. Will the Note 4 have official CM14 support? When did the Note 4 receive CM13?
I am looking to buy a phone around £300 and the screen has to be at least 5.7inches. Would the Note 4 still be a good option now?
Or should I go with another phone?
All advice is welcomed... Thanks
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Buy one plus 3 its an amazing device with 6gb ram and latest snapdragon 820 octa core processor and wide range of custom roms and yes one+3 users allready enjoying cm14 nougat roms with everything working. And of course its under 300$ off contract.

Amar.B said:
lots of people are facing emmc failure "means" you phone will lag,freeze till the motherboard dies. So no one knows what is causing this problem. So my recommendation for you is to go for another phone manufacturer.. cheers
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Has anyone been able to confirm if the N910C (Exynos) is affected by the emmc failure? From what I have read it always seems to be Snapdragon versions that are hit by it.

Kinsman-UK said:
Has anyone been able to confirm if the N910C (Exynos) is affected by the emmc failure? From what I have read it always seems to be Snapdragon versions that are hit by it.
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I have N910C (Exynos) since 2014 and flash custom roms frequently and have no issue with it

I have had a Snapdragon N910F from Launch Week, haven't had a single problem.
The eMMC failure seems to affect mostly Note4s bought in 2015, from what I have seen.
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC

POLO_i780 said:
I have had a Snapdragon N910F from Launch Week, haven't had a single problem.
The eMMC failure seems to affect mostly Note4s bought in 2015, from what I have seen.
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC
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Oh okay, but doesn't that mean I will have a chance of catching a faulty Note 4?

Trex888 said:
Buy one plus 3 its an amazing device with 6gb ram and latest snapdragon 820 octa core processor and wide range of custom roms and yes one+3 users allready enjoying cm14 nougat roms with everything working. And of course its under 300$ off contract.
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Hi there
Are you sure I can get a OnePlus 3 for under £300 not to mention $300?
I can't it that price anyway in the UK off contract.
Please link me to a UK site...
It would be awesome to have the OnePlus 3 I just thought that it would be out of my price range of £300

Apad121 said:
Oh okay, but doesn't that mean I will have a chance of catching a faulty Note 4?
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Very likely. As much as I thoroughly enjoy mine, you may be better off with something newer.
Maybe look at a used Nexus 6? Otherwise LG G4 and LG V10 may be your best bet.
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC

Apad121 said:
Hi there
Are you sure I can get a OnePlus 3 for under £300 not to mention $300?
I can't it that price anyway in the UK off contract.
Please link me to a UK site...
It would be awesome to have the OnePlus 3 I just thought that it would be out of my price range of £300
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Check on ebay or amazon and also check oneplus official website they make flash sales all the time.

POLO_i780 said:
Very likely. As much as I thoroughly enjoy mine, you may be better off with something newer.
Maybe look at a used Nexus 6? Otherwise LG G4 and LG V10 may be your best bet.
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC
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Thanks
It seems it is really difficult to find a well rounded phone of this price-£300.
Not many phones have Amoled Screens at 5.7inch+....
Some won't have software updates but that's fine as long as there is strong developer support..

Trex888 said:
Check on ebay or amazon and also check oneplus official website they make flash sales all the time.
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Thanks
On Amazon the cheapest I've seen is about £418 and eBay the cheapest seen was about the same.
Maybe I will wait until Black Friday for some deals on some phones such as the OnePlus 3.
I will comment back when I get a new phone, if I do.
Thinking about it I might get the XA Ultra: 6inch edge to edge screen. No custom ROM support though...

Amar.B said:
really hard to find one has all the features as the note 4 lets see what others would suggest
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Bought the Note 4 used 3 days ago.not rooted as im not interested.And it works great and im very happy about it

I think the note 4 is still worth the purchase
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Here's another vote for the Note 4. As far as features go, it's pretty loaded. AFAIK it's the only phone with QHD, IR blaster, expandable storage, 5.5+ inches. Granted its finger print sensor is pretty useless.
Also, I haven't had the problems mentioned above in this thread.

No no, simply NO. Unless you are getting it for like half price of a new OnePlus 3, absolutely not.