Database Users

Onnia 7 QC issues?

(why is there no omnia 7 forum?)
I've just been told by t-mobile that the Omnia 7 has QC issues and their deliveries yesterday were returned to their suppliers, anyone know what these might be?

I just picked one up today from Orange!.. I wonder if mine is affected
I heard from vodafone store that their delivery of LG Optimus (Win7) came in and had to be recalled immediately without sale due to a bluetooth issue.

The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?

Much more solid than I was expecting. I thought it would feel like a light plastic shell like the Samsung Galaxy S.
It really is very nice, no creaks, just a solid slab of deep black technology! Good times.
The back is actually wrapped in metal to the edge of the screen on the sides, it is only the top and bottom of the device which are solid plastic sort-of-cap/ends of the device.
You definitely can't call it a unibody (or can you?..) but as I say... sort of mostly 'wrapped' in a sheet of metal.
It was a close call between the (SAMOLED) Omnia and the (very nice crisp LCD) HTC Mozart, the latter fits the hand better of course due to size, but in the end the slick all black face of the Omnia, adorned with its high contrast SAMOLED screen, just made it worth it despite the low actual PPI!
It would have been nice if the rockers and camera buttons where more metallic or... metal, but instead they are old school black plastic. They work well nonetheless.
The home button is also not the most premium of push switches (compared to iPhone of course) but it is nice to have a soild key!
I would urge you to get both of these devices side by side in the store if you can, but be careful because it took me at least 20 minutes to tell the man which one I wanted to take out lol...
Here are a few pics of the construction as links:

I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.

ryotgz said:
I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's very un-Microsoft!

Freypal said:
The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.

ericc191 said:
Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've owned a few samsungs in the past (years ago lol), and they didn't give me any trouble. I suppose it was before the major smartphone race of the the last few years though haha.
I only went for the Omnia after holding it myself, there was no way I was going to order a Samsung phone without getting into a store and exploring it - but it was more solid than expected.
Hopefully if there are any support problems in the future, I will just take it to the high street store I got it from and play super dumb and demand a replacement or different phone lol... no harm done.
It seems like a negative thing to say but keep in mind that the phone really is good right now, no problems at all, everything works perfectly so far.
Note for those not in the know: the location based issues of Android Samsungs are not present here! On maps it focuses down with GSM triangulation and GPS pinpoint kicks in a couple of seconds later, super speedy!

Well that's a relief. I suppose the biggest factor that makes it feel so much better is that it's got some metal, right?

Mine's just arrived.
First impressions are very good. It feels very sturdy with no creaks and the metal casing is nice. It feels much more solid than my HTC Blackstone, although I am worried about such a large screen getting damaged!
It's going to have to stay off whilst the sim card registers. Annoying wait ahead!

How come you got this over the mozart?

chex13 said:
How come you got this over the mozart?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!

Freypal said:
I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For web browsing I might have thought it possibly more comfortable to use the Mozart's SLCD with RGB pixels (higher subpixel count) if you have good eyes that is lol.
I just cant get over how amazing the 4" SAMOLED looks though...
Because of the all black screen surround, and the nature of the WP7 text laid out to the edge of the screen, it sort of looks like your phone is just one massive display, which a lot of it is... lol
The blacks of the SAMOLED just merge with the black surround! So cool.
Where does the screen end?! lol
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

I am a happy omnia 7 owner. Just like what the other said, solid construction, beautiful screen.
But the build in app is sub-par (vs lg optimus) and I hope I don't regret choosing a device with 8GB of storage.
Cheers

A user over on MoDaCo forums is reporting that their T-Mobile account manager has told them that the Omnia 7 has been temporarily pulled due to software issues.
I've been waiting on one of these for some time as well, and was told today that their most recent update for handset stocks (issued internally today) did not include a new batch of Omnia 7s. The CSR I spoke to wouldn't be drawn on any specific problems with the handset, except to say that "there have been a few issues" with the ones we've received, and that I would be receiving a call in due course to let me know when mine would be delivered.
Does anyone else know anything about this?

gcaw - apparently they have dispatched Omnia 7's now on T-mobile, so I'd get on the phone ASAP.

risq - many thanks for letting me know about that. As it happens, fifteen hours after I'd made my previous post, I received a call from T-Mobile to let me know that they had stock and confirming delivery later today, but I'm grateful that you informed me of that - and hopefully others will have taken note of that information and successfully placed orders themselves.
I was also pleased to hear from the CSR (the same one I spoke to yesterday) that T-Mobile is extending the same deal to new Omnia 7 owners as it offers to Android buyers, giving 3GB of monthly data usage at no additional cost, rather than the standard 1GB offered under the fair usage policy for other handsets.
Compared with the rather pitiful 500MB offered on O2's contracts, that's a pretty awesome deal.

QC seems top notch!
Posted this on another forum. I'm happy about the build:
Well it had to happen sooner or later, in under a week I've dropped the Omnia 7 while lazily trying to hit snooze just moments ago (typing this message with my phone now lol). Dropped from about table height, and while it was dark, sounded like it landed on a corner first... Picked it up in the dark and dropped it again, this time hitting face flat on the ground.. My floors got a wood finish on top of a normal concrete slab so its pretty solid. Shocked and not feeling so lazy anymore, turned lights on, inspected phone, and absolutely no scratches to be seen...i think this is due to the matte looking polycarbonate plastic they use, plus the color looking like its been amalgamated with the actual plastic, I say this because I remember on my htc touch HD the bezel would scratch/chip so easily because all it was was some cheap paint over plastic/metal? As for glass, i read it's gorilla glass, whether or not it is, I'm glad it isn't scratched... My screen protector can't come soon enough,
Either way, I'm glad to know the Omnia7 is a solid beast . Though in truth, after dropping it, my excitement and feelings of it being a new toy has slightly washed off... My feeling now is 'it might be damaged somewhere'

Plastic back slowly getting looser

So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?

I'd exchange it if it really bothers you. Mine is snug.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk HD

Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.

cmunho said:
Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.

Billyvnilly said:
You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got the official one. While it may not be worth $50 I like it well enough and it protects from the "everyday". I've never dropped a tablet so I'm not worried about drops.

thank you
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes the same is

Billyvnilly said:
When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.

redpoint73 said:
Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Samsung cover, does it stay closed on the screen just by weight, or do the magnets actually keep it closed?

magnet

I have same problem same area since day 1. Went to exchange, all sold oit! Other 2 problems are lightbleed and loose micro usb port.

maybe you provide us with an image to better describe the situation

Well. It is quite plasticy
I have mine over a week now, and haven't felt it loose. You should trade it mate. I like the bezel of the tab but the plastic is really annoying. There are quite a few cases out there though...
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I got mine a few days ago and I must say I quite like it! The only build issue I have is a somewhat remarkable amount of light bleed along the bottom but it doesn't bother me enough to post a pic of it. Best buy only had one case that didn't look very good so I'm still sporting the protective back covering till more cases are in stock. I have high hopes for this!

I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk HD

ual4720 said:
I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It really should be of better build quality for $400. Or it should be at least $100 cheaper. I have the 10.1 and it feels OK, not terribly cheap but not of high quality. I will be putting it up on eBay and going to the 8.0 regardless, due to it being a more pragmatic size for my day to day use. I’m just waiting on the black version.

I had this problem as well. I replaced it at best buy and haven't had a problem with the new one.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda app-developers app

you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sure the build quality could be better but I haven't had a single issue with mine since I bought it on release day. From the reports here it seems like maybe some of them are not as solid as others.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Oooooooo magnets Are bad man. Not so much for regular phones but for phones with stylus and digitizer it will over time cause dead area s on your screen. Don't believe me ?
Head over to the note 2 forums and check out all the problems with cases involving magnet clasps. If got so bad the companies offered to replace your magnet sealing case with one with a simple button in stead. I had one and as soon as I put it on I started having problems with the area around that magnet.
Just stay away from magnetic cases period. Just trust me. Or mess up big time. Once that part of the screen gets borked its borked
That pic is the replacement one with the button they sent me. Also watch out for those magnetic kickstand cases. Big no no too those utilize neodymium!
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 2
---------- Post added at 11:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:36 PM ----------
bbfoto said:
Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amen thin ness had gone to far. I don't want any thiner devices. Just keep them how they are and make better thinner batteries cpus whatever. Battery tech needs a big overhaul that's our biggest weakness
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 2

[Q] Note 3 + Gear

Who's getting the combo or who has pre-ordered it already? Hell, who thinks its a waste of money?
Personally I've always been an early adopter so I will be pre-ordering sometime this week :good:

SgtGoldy said:
Who's getting the combo or who has pre-ordered it already? Hell, who thinks its a waste of money?
Personally I've always been an early adopter so I will be pre-ordering sometime this week :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was all about it until I found that it needed to be charged every day, it's a nice idea but needs better battery life. I called an changed to note only, I'm waiting to see what Qualcomm brings with the Toq

vtjay said:
I was all about it until I found that it needed to be charged every day, it's a nice idea but needs better battery life. I called an changed to note only, I'm waiting to see what Qualcomm brings with the Toq
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, the way I look at it is I'll just throw it on the charger at night. Hopefully they don't pull a Droid Razr and get so many complaints about the battery life that they come out with the Razr Maxx a few months later. Pissed me off....

i keep looking for a deal for both either way i will get the watch...think its amazing all them different watch faces is also like buying loadsa watches
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

SgtGoldy said:
Yea, the way I look at it is I'll just throw it on the charger at night. Hopefully they don't pull a Droid Razr and get so many complaints about the battery life that they come out with the Razr Maxx a few months later. Pissed me off....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not the battery life, by itself, that bothered me, it's what happens when the battery gets old and it can't go even one day... All that said I love the idea and the look, so if people get it and start reporting a solid 24 hrs, I'll pick one up.

I believe its a technology of future came at present just like smart tvs. Not worth for now, also cost is too high to consider.
Sent from the New S Pen

stesteste said:
i keep looking for a deal for both either way i will get the watch...think its amazing all them different watch faces is also like buying loadsa watches
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The thing I think I will really like is the workout integration. I'm also excited to see the type of apps that start to come out for it.
vtjay said:
It's not the battery life, by itself, that bothered me, it's what happens when the battery gets old and it can't go even one day... All that said I love the idea and the look, so if people get it and start reporting a solid 24 hrs, I'll pick one up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats been in the back of my mind as well. My hope is since I am buying the package through Verizon and getting insurance on it, the insurance will apply to the watch as well. Doubtful, but hopeful.

$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks

Despyse said:
$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? I feel glass is way too much. It reminds me of those guys that walk around with a Bluetooth in their ear... Except 1000x worse.

Despyse said:
$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You mean Google glass?
Sent from the New S Pen

SgtGoldy said:
Really? I feel glass is way too much. It reminds me of those guys that walk around with a Bluetooth in their ear... Except 1000x worse.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, really like the idea and the supposed price would definitely pull me away from a smart watch. Has a lot of features that watches wouldn't be able to make great use of.
sohebq said:
You mean Google glass?
Sent from the New S Pen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes.

I'm in even though I swore I wouldn't be. Here's my rationalization (to myself):
A lot of early reviewers said you had to touch the display or side button to turn it on. GSMArena confirmed you can activate it by shaking it using the accelerometer.
I'm getting a Note 10.1 2014 which also works with Gear so I can use it as a second phone when I want/need to. My N3 will be a carrier version and the N10.1-14 an unlocked Octa. So when traveling I can use SIMs from other carriers in my tablet if I can’t use them in my phone.
Tech is a hobby. I've wasted as much money on things of more questionable value so the Gear, even though it's pricey, will make me smile.
Samsung's got a lot riding on wearables so I'm hoping the Gear evolves quickly with updates and third party apps. Or it could be replaced by the Gear 2 a couple of months after I buy it. You spin the wheel and take your chances.
I really want to use it as an alternate to a BT headset. If the calling features on it suck I might end up returning it. But I’ll probably be unable to undo my other rationalizations.

Google Glass and Gear are not in the same category. You can where a watch anywhere at just about any time.
There are a lot places where you are restricted from actively using a phone where looking at a watch to get info would be rather benign, work during meetings, school, gyms, at many retail work places etc... Most of those would not allow wearing Google Glass ...
Even if you don't get one of the standout colors (red for example) it is pretty obvious you are wearing them when you have them on.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Where what kind of watch you are wearing would not get a second glance.
I can see retail locations asking you to remove your Google glasses as well which would not think for a second about the watch you were wearing and would not care if you had your phone in your pocket as well.
At $300, not really interested... but if I found one for in the $100 range, I might pick one up to play with one (Gear that is).

Ready pre ordered the Note 3 but cannot for the watch yet (AT&T)
Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk 4

krelvinaz said:
Google Glass and Gear are not in the same category. You can where a watch anywhere at just about any time.
There are a lot places where you are restricted from actively using a phone where looking at a watch to get info would be rather benign, work during meetings, school, gyms, at many retail work places etc... Most of those would not allow wearing Google Glass ...
Where what kind of watch you are wearing would not get a second glance.
I can see retail locations asking you to remove your Google glasses as well which would not think for a second about the watch you were wearing and would not care if you had your phone in your pocket as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really a shame that Glass is considered a threat to privacy, almost solely because it has a camera (it's not like the Gear doesn't have one). In terms of categories, they kinda are the same. They are both wearable accessories that extend the experience of a device. The Gear being much more limited. Being around the same price, I just don't see the Gear being something (most) people would want or would use.
I believe once Glass becomes popular (not necessarily in its first iteration) stores will come to accept it, as they have with phones.

I just can't get down with the google glass in general. It looks so ridiculously stupid on the wearer. If its ever adapted into sunglasses or even prescription glasses I'll consider them. But not until then....
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

Not that I have cash to burn nor do I like wasting it, but I get 14 days to decide IF I like GG or not and if not I return it. But after reviewing the features and benefits I think it will offer some value to me. But hey its not like I haven't had 7 phones this year already.

SgtGoldy said:
I just can't get down with the google glass in general. It looks so ridiculously stupid on the wearer. If its ever adapted into sunglasses or even prescription glasses I'll consider them. But not until then....
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They do have sunglasses. They come with lenses. To me, no, the look isn't flattering. But think about ALL the tech going into it, and the amount of work it took to shrink it to that size. It looks beautiful (IMO) from a tech standpoint, exactly as I pictured it would.
Also, that patent that Google just made for Glass on a pair of glasses.
http://www.geek.com/android/new-google-patent-may-give-a-sneak-peak-at-glass-2-0-1570847/

Despyse said:
They do have sunglasses. They come with lenses. To me, no, the look isn't flattering. But think about ALL the tech going into it, and the amount of work it took to shrink it to that size. It looks beautiful (IMO) from a tech standpoint, exactly as I pictured it would.
Also, that patent that Google just made for Glass on a pair of glasses.
http://www.geek.com/android/new-google-patent-may-give-a-sneak-peak-at-glass-2-0-1570847/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can see what your saying as far as how it looks from a tech stand point. I just prefer something less... intrusive. Thats the reason I love the gear. It just seems like it fits. Nothing awkwardly standing out or shouting to the world "look at me".

Yes for the phone, no way for the watch, it is just a gimmick imho.

Life with a phablet

I currently run a Droid Maxx and it is the largest phone I can operate with one hand.
It fits OK in some front pockets and tight in others(for my wardrobe).
How do you deal with these huge phones? I am a dude and not carrying a purse.
I hike, bicycle, ride motorcycles, and drive a lot for work. I also have an infant which I carry a lot and the Nexus 6 may be a chore to one hand.
This phone is borderline "gotta have" material.
How do you folks keep these phones without damaging/dropping, or bending/breaking in a pocket, etc.?

Basically.. You'll have to put your phone > then your kid.
Seriously though.. You just have to be careful. If you're having issues now with a 5" phone then yeah.. 6" isn't for you.

I would not use my phone if I were carrying an infant, even if I could use it one-handed. It's just not necessary.
And for the pants, well, stop buyin pants that are too tight?
Or like the last guy said, get a smaller phone.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk

Other than making a quick phone call, your device should only be used when you have two hands free. This is why drivers are causing dangerous situations and sitting still at green lights. Smart phones take not only your hands, but your concentration and focus. Use them only when you are able to leave your focus from other activities. Voice features are improving, but still cause you to refocus your attention. I typically use my GS3 4.7" phone two handed all the time.

Well... you just have to be careful. Limit your multitasking, don't try to operate the phablet when your both hands aren't free.
Also, I always buy pants with wide and deep pockets, lol

I currently have a Note 3, with average sized hands in my opinion. And I have no problem using my phone one handed while doing other things. If I want to type a lot, it is more comfortable to use both hands. Other than that, I don't mind using it one handed at all. If you support the bottom of the phone with your pinky, as I occasionally do, it can uncomfortable on that finger.

been using a launch day htc one max which is about the same size for a year and i love it. the screen real estate alone is worth the price of admission.
the phone is not so big you cant use it. once you pick it up and flick around with your finger, you will wonder how you made it this long with out a larger device.
everyone i know with the large iphone was nervous as you are--now they love it and can't go back to a smaller device.
bwheelies said:
I currently run a Droid Maxx and it is the largest phone I can operate with one hand.
It fits OK in some front pockets and tight in others(for my wardrobe).
How do you deal with these huge phones? I am a dude and not carrying a purse.
I hike, bicycle, ride motorcycles, and drive a lot for work. I also have an infant which I carry a lot and the Nexus 6 may be a chore to one hand.
This phone is borderline "gotta have" material.
How do you folks keep these phones without damaging/dropping, or bending/breaking in a pocket, etc.?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

You adapt. I love Phablets.
Had Note 1&2....
Then...6"4 Sony Ultra Gpe which I adore.
Also have Huawei Ascend Mate 2 (same size as N6.
No problems pocketing, or one handed operation actually.

I am waiting on Droid Turbo Dev edition but the Nexus 6 is also right there.
I miss the 64gb Nex 6 every time so far.

Ive had a note 3 for about a year and its a love hate relationship. When i have gym shorts on the phone is so heavy it literally is slowly pulling my pants down as i walk lol. So i usually have to put it in my backpack. With jeans i dont wear skinnys but theyre not baggy either and sitting with it in my pocket is uncomfortable i usually take it out of ny pocket and put it on the table. Although surfing the web and any multimedia on a phablet is just such a pleasure and i just cant go back to a normal sized phone. I even sold my tablet and never looked back.
Edit: i bought an armband for my note 3 for running/cycling but it is just rediculously big. Had to buy a garmin forerunner and an ipod

Razviar said:
Well... you just have to be careful. Limit your multitasking, don't try to operate the phablet when your both hands aren't free.
Also, I always buy pants with wide and deep pockets, lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So... JNCOs?
drpancake said:
Ive had a note 3 for about a year and its a love hate relationship. When i have gym shorts on the phone is so heavy it literally is slowly pulling my pants down as i walk lol. So i usually have to put it in my backpack. With jeans i dont wear skinnys but theyre not baggy either and sitting with it in my pocket is uncomfortable i usually take it out of ny pocket and put it on the table. Although surfing the web and any multimedia on a phablet is just such a pleasure and i just cant go back to a normal sized phone. I even sold my tablet and never looked back.
Edit: i bought an armband for my note 3 for running/cycling but it is just rediculously big. Had to buy a garmin forerunner and an ipod
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't your shorts have a drawstring?
-- Really though, I'm kind of in the same boat as most people with being worried about the size of the N6. I have a Moto X 2013 and love the form factor, but hate the battery life. My bootloader is unlocked, so I could just wait it out for Lollipop and see if the battery fares any better, but I'm not thinking it will be enough of an improvement.
I plan to visit a few non-VZW carrier stores this week (nearest T-MO store told me they'd have a display on Wednesday) to see one up close and see what happens.

Not everybody can handle 6 inches.
Seriously, this phone is just designed for inappropriate jokes.

gtalum said:
Not everybody can handle 6 inches.
Seriously, this phone is just designed for inappropriate jokes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True. I don't have a place to fit this gargantuan tool like a woman does: a purse!

Nexus 6 is easily manageable...Easy.
It is RARE that any first time note users returned them because of its size.

I think obviously the Nexus 6 is going to be too large for some people (perhaps myself included), but you just have to try it and give it a chance for a couple months to find out.
I remember worrying about the size of the Nexus One, compared to my Nokia N86 that preceded it, and then worrying about the size of the Nexus 4 compared to the Nexus One. Now those concerns seem silly and those former devices seem tiny. I can't believe the number of iPhone 5 users who still complain (having not tried it) that the iPhone 6 is too big for one handed use--basically all of the iHerd says this. Seriously, they think a 4.7" screen is too big, even though it's thinner and not as wide as the Nexus 4. I personally hate one handed use, but when I need to it's easy to do on the Nexus 4.
Of course there are limits to the constant progression in size. And each of my larger devices was also thinner than the last, which went a long way to mitigating the size, while this will not be true with the Nexus 6. But you probably won't know your own personal limit, until you exceed it. Just holding the phone in a store is not good enough, because it will seem huge at first.
I think if you want the Nexus 6, just get it. If it turns out to have been a mistake, then you'll know your limit and can do something different next time or sell it and get a Moto X (or whatever they're calling that Verizon thing, the Moto Craxx?).

I predict humans will soon evolve to grow progressively longer and longer opposing thumbs and permanently crooked over necks to accommodate their incessant need to stay glued to their devices as they grow larger. We might even see an eye develop in the palm so people will be able to text and drive without ever looking away from the road.

neyenlives said:
I predict humans will soon evolve to grow progressively longer and longer opposing thumbs and permanently crooked over necks to accommodate their incessant need to stay glued to their devices as they grow larger. We might even see an eye develop in the palm so people will be able to text and drive without ever looking away from the road.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd sooner bet on the human species becoming too stupid to live.

Skripka said:
I'd sooner bet on the human species becoming too stupid to live.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

What I hate about the Pixel 2 XL

Is Google turning into Apple?
Google is still doing carrier exclusive to Verizon just like Apple did with AT&T. Why!?
-Its 2017 and Google sure as hell doesn't need extra money from a carrier exclusive.
Google trolled Apple last year for no headphone jack. This year they followed in the footsteps of Apple by removing it? Why!?
-IP67 can still be done with a headphone jack. (Samsung etc..)
-Headphone jack sound can be improved with DAC (LG)
-The USB C can still be used for audio even with a headphone jack.
Google charges $200 more for a bigger screen? Apple charges $100 more for the bigger screen and better specs?
Google still doesn't have wireless charging but they did on the Nexus 6? (All the competition has wireless charging in 2017)
Google is playing the Apple game of endless adapters to do simple basic **** so they can pocket more money.
-$20 for USB-C to 3.5mm Jack (When you lose the included one)
-$44.95 for USB-C to 3.5 mm Adapter/Charger (So you can charge your phone and listen to music at the same time...)
-It's 2017 we should be moving away from adapters and cables not adding more.
Google only 4GB of RAM like really come on. At least bump it up for the Pixel 2 XL to help justify the $200 difference.
Google's camera sticks out on this version. Why?
Up to 7 hours of battery on 15 minutes of charging? Like what does that even mean? That's completely relative to the user. Why not say up to 70% in 15min or whatever.
Google why are you still using USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 (5Gbps) and not Gen 2(10Gbps)?
Using LG for the display is disappointing. I would have liked to see Samsung make the displays. Samsung makes the best displays on the market.
The Pixel 2 is a big improvement over the Pixel but still, falls short of the competition IMO. (Samsung, LG, OnePlus etc..)
I'm not saying the Pixel 2 is a bad phone. Its just targeted towards the type of people that buy iPhones.
I miss the phones targeted towards developers aka the Nexus line. Why not have a Nexus and Pixel line?
I'm still rocking the Nexus 6P. I couldn't justify the price for the Pixel XL and still have trouble justifying the price for the Pixel 2 XL
The lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack really rubs me the wrong way. Especially since they trolled Apple last year for not having one. Google fans went nuts over that and couldn't understand why Apple fans acted like it was no big deal. Now Google does the same thing and the majority of Google fans act like it's no big deal. Just shrugging it off. I have such a hard time supporting Google anymore. I've been a huge Google fan since the first Nexus device. I just feel so left behind now. My respect for Google is diminishing fast.
I realize that these are all nitpicking complaints but come on. With that price tag, everyone should really be nitpicking.
The lack of 3.5mm headphone jack has me on the fence. Every time I see an iPhone user walking around with the adapter to listen to music I laugh. It looks so damn goofy and awkward. Picturing myself with the adapter and my Bose headphones for the Pixel XL just makes me shake my head.

I can agree with you on some points.
Like why troll Apple and then follow in their footsteps with the headphone jack removal. I don't have an issue losing the jack I have an issue with trolling Apple then doing it like it isn't an issue.
The wireless charging is a nice feature I'm rocking on my note 8 but it isn't a necessity for me.
I'm curious to see the how the screen is but all the videos and hands on I've seen it looks pretty darn good.
The Nexus 6p was a great device but it's outdated now. I'm thrilled the front facing speakers come back and that camera bump is to house an amazing sensor. Just saw some of the samples and they are unreal!
They aren't making you spend the money just like the iPhone X but I'll gladly spend the $1000 over anything else on the market
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

If they were trying to emulate apple or even compete with them they would have a higher storage option than 128gb.
Hell even chinese phones have a 256gb option these days.
Google dropped the ball on storage options for sure.
And thats the only thing holding me back from getting one
sent from my Note FE

oneandroidnut said:
I can agree with you on some points.
Like why troll Apple and then follow in their footsteps with the headphone jack removal. I don't have an issue losing the jack I have an issue with trolling Apple then doing it like it isn't an issue.
The wireless charging is a nice feature I'm rocking on my note 8 but it isn't a necessity for me.
I'm curious to see the how the screen is but all the videos and hands on I've seen it looks pretty darn good.
The Nexus 6p was a great device but it's outdated now. I'm thrilled the front facing speakers come back and that camera bump is to house an amazing sensor. Just saw some of the samples and they are unreal!
They aren't making you spend the money just like the iPhone X but I'll gladly spend the $1000 over anything else on the market
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, honestly that's the biggest reason why I think it bothers me so much. Just because they trolled Apple about it. If they would have made fun of themselves during the keynote about removing the 3.5mm headphone jack after last years troll. I would have really respected that but they just brushed it off. I'm not saying that LG will have a bad panel but I fear it will have some inconsistencies between devices. If I get the Pixel XL and the screen is not perfect. Then have to return it to Google to get another one that would really piss me off. Especially since Verizon users can just walk into the store and get a new one the same day if that's the case. LG has had issues in the past with producing consistent displays. Samsung just simply has the best displays.

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

A perfect phone never existed and never will be one in history
you have to know this for a fact
all phones have flows (expensive - cheap - heavy -big -small -skinny - old specs - etc )
and you have to decide what is the most important thing to you and go for it
for example, to me ( vanilla android - OS update very fast ) this is way i got my Nexus 6 before and the reason i order pixel 2
other factors are important but these 2 things are a most for me
And to some people if they removed a thing it will not affect them
like the Headphone jack, i have not used a wired headphones in 2 years (in my phone)
i went full Bluetooth, so removing it is sad but it will not affect me
i wish it has 6 gigs of ram though
and i wish a good nexus replacement show up in the future

If they are trying to copy Apple or create a premium handset, then why is wireless charging omitted from the Pixel 2? I did not understand why that option is not present, while ever other flagship smartphone has it.. I also cannot understand not adding an SDcard slot, well other then to force you to buy the 128GB model and charge a huge premium like Apple does.
Edit: I was also really considering a Samsung S8 or Note 8 but after getting burned with a S7 Edge this pushed me toward the pixel. My S7 display had the pink line issue with the screen and was 2 months out of warranty so Samsung wanted to charge $200 for a DEFECT in the device that many others had and no recall was done. This really pushed me away from Samsung. I also had issues with the LG G6 bootlooping in the past and why I tend to avoid LG going forward.

I think they (and every other manufacturer) try to make a decision based on their analysis of what gets them the best return. You (the general you, or we... whatever) need to make a decision about which manufacturer's decision best fits our personal desires. If you can find one that is a complete match... awesome!
I have no interest in SD cards or wireless charging. I was kind of sad when the front facing speakers went away for the Pixel XL, so I am thrilled that they're back. I use headphones regularly, but just bluetooth sets... so I am fine with the ditched jack. I have never had anything resembling lag or slowness, so the performance specs seem great.

force70 said:
If they were trying to emulate apple or even compete with them they would have a higher storage option than 128gb.
Hell even chinese phones have a 256gb option these days.
Google dropped the ball on storage options for sure.
And thats the only thing holding me back from getting one
sent from my Note FE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree I was looking to try a mi mix 2 and you can get 8 GB of ram and 256 GB of storage on their special edition one and 6/256 on a regular! That is nuts compared to google with half of that!
KillerDroid96 said:
Yeah, honestly that's the biggest reason why I think it bothers me so much. Just because they trolled Apple about it. If they would have made fun of themselves during the keynote about removing the 3.5mm headphone jack after last years troll. I would have really respected that but they just brushed it off. I'm not saying that LG will have a bad panel but I fear it will have some inconsistencies between devices. If I get the Pixel XL and the screen is not perfect. Then have to return it to Google to get another one that would really piss me off. Especially since Verizon users can just walk into the store and get a new one the same day if that's the case. LG has had issues in the past with producing consistent displays. Samsung just simply has the best displays.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah for sure and i hope the LG will have a great panel, everything I have seen on the v30 it looks great and i believe panel is the same or very close! I am a verizon user but will not purchase from verizon! I want that google unlocked bootloader!

krolla03 said:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
.
Considered response to op's whining snowflake post but yours says it better!

They are not turning completely into Apple, they are just barely trying, come on I can buy an iPhones anywhere, with global warranty and more than 5+ years of software updates.
Pixels, on the other side, can only be purchased in 5 out of 195 countries no international shipping (they have a useless Google Store in more than 30 countries at the moment), no physical stores or pickup points for travellers, now they have 3 years of software updates (better than 2), and they mostly sell the pixels "on-demand". Stock never last etc. (Of course there are always stock problems, probably 50% of the Pixels purchased are sold at a much higher price to the rest of the world and with crappy warranty).
So, yes, Google is converting into Apple, but only in the bad sides of Apple. Apple has good sides (stock everywhere, warranty everywhere no matter where you purchased the phone, pickup locations, no inflated price, 5 years of software updates). I'd love to see google adopting these things from Apple, and not the bad things, like giving "exclusive" software features to Pixels (new iPhones) and separating the Pixels more and more from the AOSP.

Problem solved. Don't get one.

My dislike is much more trivial. I hate the uneven top and bottom bezels. I guess I'm a sucker for symmetry.
Still gonna be the best phone on the market along with the V30.

Sounds like you shouldn't get a Pixel 2 XL then. And by extension, you shouldn't clutter the forums with useless posts just to feed your inner drama queen.

Elnrik said:
Sounds like you shouldn't get a Pixel 2 XL then. And by extension, you shouldn't clutter the forums with useless posts just to feed your inner drama queen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guess you didnt read the thread title lol.
"What i hate about" its not a what i love about it or why im getting it thread.
So technically your cluttering this thread lol
sent from my Note FE

You must be right.
:good:

What purpose would extra RAM serve on the device?

force70 said:
Guess you didnt read the thread title lol.
"What i hate about" its not a what i love about it or why im getting it thread.
So technically your cluttering this thread lol
sent from my Note FE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then dont get it...you will make someone else happier to get it

lucky_strike33 said:
Then dont get it...you will make someone else happier to get it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Read dude...and you will see your reply to my quoted post makes zero sense lol.
I may actually get it though ....it kinda ticks all the boxes this year for me anyway.
sent from my Note FE

I'm out of the XL 2 party. I got a good look at the screen bezels today and canceled my order. I like my flat screen so I ordered the regular XL instead. At least I'll be getting a larger phone as this 5" is pretty tough for me to read. Maybe next year Google...