CWM crashes OS when I try and make a backup. - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I managed to root the Note 3 with CF- Root. Currently on 4.4.2 EE. That was easy. I then installed CWM and it advised I needed to update the app which I do. If I then ask it to make a back up it reboots in to recovery but does not appear to do anything? If I then reboot the device the App's all crash one at a time. The only way to resolve is to wipe/Factory reset.
I am not sure what I have done wrong here? This is not a boot loop....It just bombs the current rom.

Nothing? No advice? As this is not a boot loop searching has not really helped.

o0wiz0o said:
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Who do you ask to make a backup ? Which app have you installed ? Cwm Rom manager ? Did you even install cwm recovery within the app ? If you updated the app, with that you didn't install the recovery.
You must power off your phone and reboot to recovery with the 3 button combo. Then, when in recovery, make a backup (if you have a custom recovery installed ?). Don't use any "boot to recovery and make a backup" apps or such, it can screw things up.
But my advice, install the latest twrp recovery. Definitely better.

Thankyou for taking the time to answer.
Yes I installed clockwork Mod. It said it was installing Cwm and offered the option to reboot and make a current backup. Which it then seems to fail. I see no manual option to make a back either when in the boot menu.
I'll try twerp and see what happens. I used to use Cwm a long time ago on a first gen galaxy and it was great. Something is just amiss this time.

Yeah, it didn't install cwm recovery, otherwise you would have the option to backup. Stock recovery doesn't have that option.
Last time i checked, this cwm manager wasn't the best option to manage your backups and restores. The 3 button combo to boot into recovery and then make a backup or restore is the way to go.
I too had problems with cwm in the past, but then i went for twrp and all is good. Plus, imo, it has a nicer touch interface.

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[RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for Captivate (FINAL! SAFE!)

First things first, if you flashed a previous version of Clockwork Recovery using Odin, FLASH BACK TO A STOCK KERNEL using this Odin package:
http://koush.tandtgaming.com//test/kernel-captivate-stock.tar.md5
This recovery is *very* safe to use. It does NOT flash your kernel; it is a completely uninvasive recovery method.
How it works: The recovery is packaged as an update.zip that you run from STOCK recovery. The update.zip unpacks Clockwork Recovery onto the ramdisk and restarts recovery. When you reboot, it reverts back to the original, unmodified, stock recovery. So, you will need to keep the recovery on the root of your SD card as an update.zip, and apply the zip every time you want to start Clockwork.
HOWEVER, if you use ROM Manager, all of the recovery installation and management instructions are done for you!
Installation instructions:
Download ROM Manager from the Market.
Flash Recovery.
Choose Captivate as your phone.
Accept the Superuser prompt.
Use ROM Manager to create a Backup.
On the very FIRST boot of Clockwork, you may need to manually select "reinstall packages" if Clockwork does not start. You should only ever have to do this once. It will be automatic from then on.
Watch the backup go!
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
Sweet!
Nandroid'd!
Ah yeah....smooth like butter baby!!! Great work once again. Remember to donate people!!!
big99gt said:
Ah yeah....smooth like butter baby!!! Great work once again. Remember to donate people!!!
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For us Noobs, can we get more information on where and when to use this?
In reading everything I get some of it, but not all. This is my first hackable android phone, so I am still learning the lingo.
With other phones, I would just Flash a custom ROM or Flash Factory ROM back.
So how do ROM Manager and Clockwork recovery come into play?
Are there any tutorials - not that just give step by step (like above) but explain what is happening in each step or why?
alphadog00 said:
For us Noobs, can we get more information on where and when to use this?
In reading everything I get some of it, but not all. This is my first hackable android phone, so I am still learning the lingo.
With other phones, I would just Flash a custom ROM or Flash Factory ROM back.
So how do ROM Manager and Clockwork recovery come into play?
Are there any tutorials - not that just give step by step (like above) but explain what is happening in each step or why?
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The long and short of it is that you can now flash ROMs and make backups, and restore, without your computer.
The recovery is the tool that lets you do the backups and installations. ROM Manager is a convenient Android front end to the recovery.
After these steps you won't really have to "hack" your phone lol. Root your phone and download Rom Manager from the Android market...then have it flash a recovery (the first selection at the top) choose your device when prompted. Now after that finishes select "reboot into recovery" and as the above post states you may need to select "reinstall packages" (I did). Once that goes through, you'll see your new custom recovery menu. DO A NANDROID BACKUP of your current Rom as soon as you can....then (as long as your current rom isn't messed up, if its stock your fine) from there on out you can play as much as you want with very little risk of bricking your phone. There are others who can explain it better but your stuck with me till they chime in lol. Its a very easy process and nearly foolproof.
Koush said:
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
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Awesome work! Premium version has been purchased by me. Thank you for the efforts.
Didn't work at first for me.
I installed Rom Manager (premium)
Installed CW recovery
Accepted SU
Tried to backup from within Rom Manager
I got a "Can't find update.zip" message.
When I rebooted and opened Rom Manager again, I got the "Error Occured" message, but it locked up on me and became unresponsive.
I uninstalled Rom Manager, rebooted, then reinstalled. I flashed CW recovery again, rebooted normally, opened rom manager again, and flashed CW recovery again.
After that I was able to use rom manager to reboot into recovery and backup.
Not sure if mine was just a fluke or what, but I figured I would share.
MSigler said:
Didn't work at first for me.
I installed Rom Manager (premium)
Installed CW recovery
Accepted SU
Tried to backup from within Rom Manager
I got a "Can't find update.zip" message.
When I rebooted and opened Rom Manager again, I got the "Error Occured" message, but it locked up on me and became unresponsive.
I uninstalled Rom Manager, rebooted, then reinstalled. I flashed CW recovery again, rebooted normally, opened rom manager again, and flashed CW recovery again.
After that I was able to use rom manager to reboot into recovery and backup.
Not sure if mine was just a fluke or what, but I figured I would share.
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Titanium Backup did that to me also the first time I ran it....I've had quite a few freezes and slowdowns when opening a program for the first time and waiting for SU to kick in.
It should also be noted that when you chose to partition the sdcard via the recovery menu, it partitions the internal sdcard and not the external.
Maybe that can be made an option? I would like to do my nandroid backup to my external card so I have it for safe keeping.
Everything else working as expected, I enabled advanced options and downloaded the superuser package (from Extras) just to test things. Havent experienced any problems other than the sdcard wipe (which wasnt totally unexpected).
If something should happen to your phone (brick, unrecoverable error, etc), how can we reboot into this custom recovery to reflash the nandroid backup? Can we get into it via adb (adb reboot recovery)?
Yeah, having an external SD Nandroid would be a great option. Not just for safekeeping, but for easy transfer in case of hardware loss or replacement.
dweebs0r said:
It should also be noted that when you chose to partition the sdcard via the recovery menu, it partitions the internal sdcard and not the external.
Maybe that can be made an option? I would like to do my nandroid backup to my external card so I have it for safe keeping.
Everything else working as expected, I enabled advanced options and downloaded the superuser package (from Extras) just to test things. Havent experienced any problems other than the sdcard wipe (which wasnt totally unexpected).
If something should happen to your phone (brick, unrecoverable error, etc), how can we reboot into this custom recovery to reflash the nandroid backup? Can we get into it via adb (adb reboot recovery)?
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I just did a reboot into recovery mode (the normal way, not with rom manager) and I had to click "reinstall packages" to get into the ClockworkMod recovery menu. So I'm not sure but I'm guessing (hoping) that its still available if we run into problems later.
Yep. It's pretty much how the Droid and N1 people are used to doing it anyway.
Clockwork is hella handy to manage and switch between working ROMs on the fly, as well as triggering recovery mode without keypress acrobatics, but having update.zip on the SD card to fall back on using the normal restore and the stock kernel is great in case of semi-bricking, and as this last week has shown us, the Galaxy phones are a bit prone to this.
THANK YOU!!! Been waiting for this since I got the phone, you are the man, I'll be adding to your Paypal account shortly!
Works like a charm. Thanks Koush!
Thank you. I am new to the scene, but looks like I chose the right hardware for hacking. The swift and easy way in which I have been able to advance my freedom on this gorgeous hardware makes me forget for a while that I am on AT&T, home of the fruit carrying zombie army.
Sweet! Can't wait to try this on my phone later tonight. Will deff be buying ROM Manager Pro
Thanks for this...I just bought the premium version...Since this is my first Android phone I have a question. I previously rooted my phone and uninstalled alll the AT&T bloatware, My question is about the backup I just made using this. If I restore the backup will it restore a rooted backup with out all the AT&T bloatware? Also when I ran the backup I go 2 messages at the end
No /sdcard/.andriod_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.. Is this normal?
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext. Is this normal?
Also I now have 2 ROM Manager icon in my application screens. 1 will open the program and the other tells me that the aplication is not installed on my phone. I tried to delete that icon but it won't go away, Any ideas? FIXED..I rebooted my phone and the extra icon went away...
Thanks for all help and these great apps...
jhernand1102 said:
Thanks for this...I just bought the premium version...Since this is my first Android phone I have a question. I previously rooted my phone and uninstalled alll the AT&T bloatware, My question is about the backup I just made using this. If I restore the backup will it restore a rooted backup with out all the AT&T bloatware? Also when I ran the backup I go 2 messages at the end
No /sdcard/.andriod_secure found. Skipping backup of applications on external storage.. Is this normal?
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext. Is this normal?
Thanks for all help and these great apps...
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i got the same message, im assuming that you dont have an external sd card thats why it generated the message...
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i got the same message, im assuming that you dont have an external sd card thats why it generated the message...
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I do have one in my phone but there is nothing installed on it yet..maybe that's why..

Having trouble making backup of current rom.

Im trying to backup my current rom using rom manager. I flashed clockwork and all that, when i goto back up rom it resets and shows me the phone with the (!) sign above it. then i have to restart. any help on getting it to actually backup my rom?
The ! screen you are getting is the stock recovery. Go into ROM manager (you are rooted I hope?) and choose to install Clockwork Recovery (do it two or three times, it takes a few tries to "stick"). Then choose to "backup" and it will reboot you into Clockwork Recovery which will have backup options (and more!) available for you.

[Q] Question about root and recovery

I've searched the forums without any luck. Anyways, I have a question about root and recovery. Yesterday I rooted my phone using a guide from the unlockr. All went well and my phone is now rooted. I want to install a new ROM on my phone and I keep reading about installing "recovery" before the ROM and I'm not sure if I've done that? Is there a way to know if I have installed the recovery or not?
Oh wow I'm stupid. On the guide it says I now have root access and a recovery image. My bad. But now I have another question; If I don't happen to like the new ROM is it easy to just go back to normal, like factory settings?
First Question
It's quiet easy.
- If you have rom manager installed, you have clockworkmod recovery installed.
- If not, try to power on your tattoo with the touches "home" + "power" until you go on the recovery. If you go on the recovery, you got it! ;-)
Second question
Before flashing a rom, do a Nandroid backup in the recovery so you can restore to your current rom with all yours data.
charlesdg said:
First Question
It's quiet easy.
- If you have rom manager installed, you have clockworkmod recovery installed.
- If not, try to power on your tattoo with the touches "home" + "power" until you go on the recovery. If you go on the recovery, you got it! ;-)
Second question
Before flashing a rom, do a Nandroid backup in the recovery so you can restore to your current rom with all yours data.
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I have the clockwordmod recovery v3.0.0.5 and I started the phone by pressing home+power and I hit the "Backup and restore" option but there's no "Nandroid backup" thingy, all I see is "backup" or "restore", is that the same thing?
I'm running a backup right as we speak.
Yes! the backup & restore menu are the nandroid backup & restore...
charlesdg said:
Yes! the backup & restore menu are the nandroid backup & restore...
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Okay, thanks! The backup is done and I'm now copying the clockworkmod folder to my computer, and soon I'm gonna try flash the nFinityGB rom
cross your fingers! lol
Well, I copied the nFinityGB.zip-file and put it on the SD crad, but when i try to start it in recovery mode it gets stuck on "Tattoo" on the screen. What am I doing wrong? lol
to install the rom, you have to go in the recovery. did you push home + power buttons as well during the boot?
charlesdg said:
to install the rom, you have to go in the recovery. did you push home + power buttons as well during the boot?
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Yeah I did, I fixed it though by doing the root thing again, dunno why I couldn't start the phone in recovery mode. I have the nFinityGB rom now though, looks pretty awesome
Thanks for your help btw!

brick Nexus S

Hello. i am new to the android family
i have a nexus s GT-9020T
i have rooted my phone but without setting the clockworkmod reovery.
today i was playing with the rom manager and downloaded one of the rom from the list. after installation i was unable to start the phone only seeing the google logo with the unlock logo.
i went back into the recovery by typing flash recovery recovery.img etc.
run a restore and restart the phone but still not work
my nexus s is 2.3.4 by the way.
please assist
What "restore" did you run?
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056062
And download the full rom:
Model: i9020T
Full Rom: GRJ22, KD1
That'll revert your Nexus S to the latest completely stock 2.3.4
Then you can flash recovery again and go back to clockwork mod and go flash another rom or whatever.
Remember when you're flashing a new rom you need to wipe data and cache and dalvik cache.
i run an restore from the backup that i made before installing the new rom using clockwork mod recovery, its part of the option when installing the rom using the rom manager * click box - backup * etc something like that
sheunghko said:
i run an restore from the backup that i made before installing the new rom using clockwork mod recovery, its part of the option when installing the rom using the rom manager * click box - backup * etc something like that
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Next time don't use Rom Manager to make backups or flash roms. It's stupid and can get you issues like you're having.
Anyways, try wiping data and cache then restoring the backup, do it in Clockwork Recovery.
Let it boot, first boot always takes a while, 5-10 minutes. If you see the boot animation freeze, stop and restart, then yeah it's screwed up, otherwise, just let it is.
If still not working from your backup, do what I said in previous reply, just restore to stock 2.3.4 then re flash clockwork mod and start over with the rom you want to flash.
thank your nxt. i have found the real problem. it was not my backup problem or the rom that u provided. it was the version of my clockwork mod recovery. i was using an 2.x.x.x to restore the phone which is why it doesn't work. everything work fine now after i flashed with an 3.x.x.x and restore the phone. one question thou, where can i always find the newest clockwork mod recovery release ? thank you very much
sheunghko said:
thank your nxt. i have found the real problem. it was not my backup problem or the rom that u provided. it was the version of my clockwork mod recovery. i was using an 2.x.x.x to restore the phone which is why it doesn't work. everything work fine now after i flashed with an 3.x.x.x and restore the phone. one question thou, where can i always find the newest clockwork mod recovery release ? thank you very much
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http://mirrorbrain.cyanogenmod.com/cm/recoveries/
Or just use ROM Manager to get the latest.
That's the only thing I use ROM Manager for... getting the latest Recovery.
thanks again nxt. if you don't mind really ...i have one more question. i know the phone intend to uninstall clockwork mod recovery once its restarted. i know there is command type into the cmd to avoid the phone uninstall the clockworkmod reovery and make it permanent in another word. I didn't run those command when i root my phone because i don't know if its good to make it permanent like.... hmmm like if there will be a 2.3.5 coming next month..just saying ok... with a permanent unofficial recovery will cause a problem?
sheunghko said:
thanks again nxt. if you don't mind really ...i have one more question. i know the phone intend to uninstall clockwork mod recovery once its restarted. i know there is command type into the cmd to avoid the phone uninstall the clockworkmod reovery and make it permanent in another word. I didn't run those command when i root my phone because i don't know if its good to make it permanent like.... hmmm like if there will be a 2.3.5 coming next month..just saying ok... with a permanent unofficial recovery will cause a problem?
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Are you running custom ROM? If you are, it's already made to not revert back to stock recovery. If you leave it stock recovery you'll get notifications for firmware updates by Google, but remember that applying those to a rooted phone might screw things up too.
the blue one is stock recovery right?
sheunghko said:
the blue one is stock recovery right?
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Don't remember. It should only have like 3-4 options.
thanks again nxt. no i am not running an custom rom. i mean not yet. i planed to try one from the rom manager download section then my phone couldn't start after installation and now i have restored my phone from my backup using the clockwork mod recovery 3.x.x.x.

[Q] Two Different CWM Versions Installed?

So apparently I have two different versions of ClockWorkMod Recovery on my Droid X. ROM manager says I have 5.0.2.0, but when I reboot into Recovery (via ROM Manager, or manually) it boots into CWM 2.5.0.8. I can then Flash the 5.0.2.0 zip, and use it normally, I just can't boot directly into it. I recently got a replacement Droid X off ebay because my screen developed a huge black blob in it, but it didn't have the same CWM weirdness going on..
Is there any way to get rid of the 2.5.0.8? Everything works correctly once I flash into 5.0.2.0, but it would be nice to be able to get there directly.
TIA
bump?
Anyone?
same here
Hello i have the same issue just by me i cant do any thing in recovery it will just always go to a blank screen in rom manger it will show 5.0.....
in recovery it shows 2.0....
pls help will love you for ever :crying:
Regarding droid x cwm
IndyRoadie said:
So apparently I have two different versions of ClockWorkMod Recovery on my Droid X. ROM manager says I have 5.0.2.0, but when I reboot into Recovery (via ROM Manager, or manually) it boots into CWM 2.5.0.8. I can then Flash the 5.0.2.0 zip, and use it normally, I just can't boot directly into it. I recently got a replacement Droid X off ebay because my screen developed a huge black blob in it, but it didn't have the same CWM weirdness going on..
Is there any way to get rid of the 2.5.0.8? Everything works correctly once I flash into 5.0.2.0, but it would be nice to be able to get there directly.
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i think it has something to do with bootstrap did you try using 2.5.0.8 not sure but i think you should be able to use it the same as 5.0.2.0
tzvblsm said:
i think it has something to do with bootstrap did you try using 2.5.0.8 not sure but i think you should be able to use it the same as 5.0.2.0
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Both work, just you can't Restore backups made in 5.0.2.0, using 2.5.0.8.. So ever time I want to do a Back Up, or a Restore, I boot into Recovery and it loads 2.5.0.8, then I flash 5.0.2.0, then run my Back Up or Restore..
It all works, it's just a pain..
Simple solution
IndyRoadie said:
Both work, just you can't Restore backups made in 5.0.2.0, using 2.5.0.8.. So ever time I want to do a Back Up, or a Restore, I boot into Recovery and it loads 2.5.0.8, then I flash 5.0.2.0, then run my Back Up or Restore..
It all works, it's just a pain..
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Why don't you Boot in to recovery and backup from recovery instead of ROM manger to my understanding that will solve all your problems.
if i helped hit the thanks button
tzvblsm said:
Why don't you Boot in to recovery and backup from recovery instead of ROM manger to my understanding that will solve all your problems.
if i helped hit the thanks button
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That's what I am doing.. Any way I get into Recovery, by booting directly into it, or via ROM Manager, it boots into 2.5.0.8.
Got it worked out, thanks to this thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2133052&page=2

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