hi guys,
My stepson has a galaxy s4 i9500
he plays alot with it and has installed several roms after rooting the phone.
at some point he realized that after burning a new rom ha has almost no storage left on the phone itself. we tried to check the data visible during a usb connection but the total size doesn't even come near te 16GB. now he has no games or heavy apps installed and after running cleanmaster app he has 18mb free left. what can we do?
thanks alot
Michael
hokerme said:
hi guys,
My stepson has a galaxy s4 i9500
he plays alot with it and has installed several roms after rooting the phone.
at some point he realized that after burning a new rom ha has almost no storage left on the phone itself. we tried to check the data visible during a usb connection but the total size doesn't even come near te 16GB. now he has no games or heavy apps installed and after running cleanmaster app he has 18mb free left. what can we do?
thanks alot
Michael
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It's all your downloads and other stuff like that.
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thanks but this is not the case
LiL_Assassin said:
It's all your downloads and other stuff like that.
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As i said before we have just installed a new rom so there are almost no downloads at all.
i must say that im an IT specialist so i am familiar with storage folders downloads an temp files. obviously the problem is a bit mor sofisticated then that but thanks anyways
It doesn't work like that. 16gb is not one partition. It are multiple partitions. The rom itself (TW based) eat up a lot of storage. Together with a few apps it can become full easily. But maybe it's also possible that he didn't wipe properly before flashing a new rom and old files are still left.
So do a full wipe from the custom recovery and flash the rom again.
Installing a custom rom will not wipe the internal storage (unless you/he chose to do it when doing the standard wiping procedure).
So, even if he installed several roms, files usually still remain on the internal storage. Backups, rom zips, game data, etc.
Try this: Backup everything that is on the internal storage onto your pc and do a factory reset. See if it fixes anything. A factory reset wipes everything, including the internal storage.
You should also note that, even though Samsung advertised the phone as 16GB, it's actually only 9GB of usable space.
The rom partition takes about 2-3 GB. So that's a total of 12GB. Not 16, like Samsung says..
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Hello
I've recently flashed [Rom]Google Edition galaxy S4 rom for i9505 [27 June] [Pure Nexus Experience] onto my S4. After following all the instructions it's working fine. Except the internal storage size is still 9.25GB with 8.18GB allocated. I would have thought that removing the stock ROM would have freed the internal storage space?
Cheers.
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UrbanNZ said:
Hello
I've recently flashed [Rom]Google Edition galaxy S4 rom for i9505 [27 June] [Pure Nexus Experience] onto my S4. After following all the instructions it's working fine. Except the internal storage size is still 9.25GB with 8.18GB allocated. I would have thought that removing the stock ROM would have freed the internal storage space?
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I think you answered your own question, "allocated" means "reserved" so in other words even if you
did not have any rom flashed/installed at all the phone would still allocate/reserve the 8.18GB space
which cannot be used for normal storage.
Good luck!
Thanks for your reply. It's a bit of a bummer though, is there no way to release the total storage size of the phones internal memory for user allocation ? Would it be something the developers could work on. But then I guess it comes back to the old saying, just get an SD Card.
UrbanNZ said:
Thanks for your reply. It's a bit of a bummer though, is there no way to release the total storage size of the phones internal memory for user allocation ? Would it be something the developers could work on. But then I guess it comes back to the old saying, just get an SD Card.
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I doubt that any of the devs could increase the user usable space on the internal sdcard.
But even if they increased it by 1GB or 2GB no one including you would be satisfied with
that for more than a few minutes anyway.
The external sdcards are really not that expensive and spending $20-30 bucks on
32GB sdcard for a device which cost over $650 is not that big of a deal.
I would think the actual GS4GE has a different pit file.
actually i thought it would free up internal storage after flashing cm10.1...
I already flashed and indeed its still the same space as TW.. puzzling..
mgear356 said:
actually i thought it would free up internal storage after flashing cm10.1...
I already flashed and indeed its still the same space as TW.. puzzling..
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People have answered this many times. The size of storage you get will not increase unless Samsung changes the partition size.
repartition
isn't possible to re-partition. I am sure samsung had a good reason to book 6 GB for OS. but stock edition will not need all this space! i would say maybe not more than 3.
so cant we repartition the reserved to achieve usuable of 13GB?
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isn't possible to re-partition. I am sure samsung had a good reason to book 6 GB for OS. but stock edition will not need all this space! i would say maybe not more than 3.
so cant we repartition the reserved to achieve usuable of 13GB?
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Yes you can but its very risky. See below
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In order to partition that internal memory you have to wipe it. And that means everything. System, recovery, download mode, boot loader, everything.
The connection with Odin or adb at this point would be totally housed in RAM. It would need to maintain that connection in order to complete the task of adding the new partition, adding the download mode back, adding recovery, and finally the ROM itself.
If the phone lost its connection during that process or lost power or the update process got pushed out of ram for any reason the phone would be hard bricked as there would be no way to reestablish communication with it to restart the process. You couldn't power it on or boot it to anything. It would be a $600 paper weight.
Meanwhile the alternative option is to just go buy an $8 external 16gb SD card or a $20 external 32gb SD card. That carries no risk whatsoever and expands your phone's storage well beyond the original 9gb of usable space you started with.
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Yes you can but its very risky. See below
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thanks for the info. but i dont see why i would lost power during the process or anything like that. is it the same risk as flashing a rom via odin?
Is this why I am only able to use about three gigs of my internal storage space? I see 3 or so are partitioned off for the ROM (See second attachment from within TiB), then I have 10 gigs, but 7 are full of something I can't locate - either from within my phone or through my computer (See first attachment from within ES File Explorer).
I've got to assume this is just something going on with my phone. I think everyone would be pretty upset if their 16 gig phone only gave them 3 gigs...
I wish we had something like DTa2SD for the S4! That would be great...
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thanks for the info. but i dont see why i would lost power during the process or anything like that. is it the same risk as flashing a rom via odin?
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When everything goes well you are right, you will probably reflash the partition 1000 times without having any issues... the problem is if you were to be unlucky
No the risk is not the same as flashing a rom. If the process of flashing a rom is interrupted you just wouldn't be able to reboot your phone normally but you could always reboot in recovery or download mode to retry flashing the rom.
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Is this why I am only able to use about three gigs of my internal storage space? I see 3 or so are partitioned off for the ROM (See second attachment from within TiB), then I have 10 gigs, but 7 are full of something I can't locate - either from within my phone or through my computer (See first attachment from within ES File Explorer).
I've got to assume this is just something going on with my phone. I think everyone would be pretty upset if their 16 gig phone only gave them 3 gigs...
I wish we had something like DTa2SD for the S4! That would be great...
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No you should have 8/9 Gb free on your Internal SD. The space you lose are the 2.19Gb in the system partition, but you have definitely something that is occupying your Internal SD.
Well crap. Any idea how to get rid of whatever it is? I can't get my phone to go into mass transfer mode at all (even with the SG USB Mass Transfer app) so the only thing I can do is browse on my phone through file explorers and nothing can see it.
which samsung galaxy s4 rom uses less memory? I am using Slim Beam 4.3. I have done a factory reset and it says I only have 513mb avaliable and I don't use alot of apps
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seanpowell95 said:
which samsung galaxy s4 rom uses less memory? I am using Slim Beam 4.3. I have done a factory reset and it says I only have 513mb avaliable and I don't use alot of apps
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Clearly you are confusing RAM and storage. Android fills your RAM with apps as unused memory is wasted memory. So Android will keep moving apps in and out of memory by use and priority.
Storage is what may be left on your internal memory by downloading a bunch of apps or creating many back ups on your phone and not deleting old ones. Where as AOSP ROMs may use about 500 MB less storage after gapps than Touchwiz ROMs, that is still not a big difference considering the 16 GB it comes with.
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Clearly you are confusing RAM and storage. Android fills your RAM with apps as unused memory is wasted memory. So Android will keep moving apps in and out of memory by use and priority.
Storage is what may be left on your internal memory by downloading a bunch of apps or creating many back ups on your phone and not deleting old ones. Where as AOSP ROMs may use about 500 MB less storage after gapps than Touchwiz ROMs, that is still not a big difference considering the 16 GB it comes with.
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Gotha. Thanks KennyGlass. But after I do a full wipe and flash a new rom, there shouldn't be only 513 left without even intalling an app.
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Gotha. Thanks KennyGlass. But after I do a full wipe and flash a new rom, there shouldn't be only 513 left without even intalling an app.
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Where are you measuring this? Are you talking internal or RAM?
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Where are you measuring this? Are you talking internal or RAM?
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Inernal
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Inernal
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So no, a data reset will not delete pictures, backups, or any of that. You will need to go through your internal storage and delete things.
Move your pics to external sd card as well as your big app data files
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Move your pics to external sd card as well as your big app data files
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Sorry. I meant to say memory. But it i guess ill be doing the same
I'm only passing on information that worked for me today.
I cleared up storage by installing twrp
1st: back up
2nd: wiped everything
3rd: wiped system
4th: re-installed rom and gapps
reboot
wala!!!!!!! after reinstalling all my apps, I have 8.28gb available
Hi all,
I just rooted today and got this Note 3 up and running. Coming from a Note 2. I am now getting a "storage space running out" notification. When I click on it says that my Misc files have 29.61GB of usage, however when I click on that-no folders stick out to me as having large file use? I have the stock ROM saved, as well as running BAJA in slot 1. Any suggestions on how to free up some space?
Don't use two roms with all your apps in both.
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Don't use two roms with all your apps in both.
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Ok, thanks. Question is this, do I have to backup the current ROM I am using each time I move from slot to slot to maintain settings? or is it auto saved?
Found my answer to my above question however other than the bloat ware, I only had 3 apps that I downloaded on stock so something else has to be eating it.
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Ok, thanks. Question is this, do I have to backup the current ROM I am using each time I move from slot to slot to maintain settings? or is it auto saved?
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if you moving the rom to a different slot a back up is best if you just loading a different slot no need for backup everything is the same as it was when you rebooted the phone its just like having more then one phone if you have more then one slot with a rom on it
started looking at moving my apps to the SD card, at least the ones I could and I only have 2GB of app taking space. And when clicking misc files, only 60MB or so of data is shown, so something huge is taking up internal space that I cannot see. I know BAJA is what, 1.7GB I think, could the stock ROM be taking up that much room?
And when plug it into the computer,it is showing 18.9GB free on internal????
Maybe trying doing a wipe and reinstall the ROM. With stock you should have about 22GB free out of the 32GB total. Sounds like something is glitched?
Maybe I got a bad download of Baja? I haven't tried to re download but everything worked except for this storage issue. I ended up wiping and sticking with stock root after wiping and reinstalling the Baja file I had didn't work again. Might just wait for 4.4 to come out and alliance to be released for the note 3 hopefully.
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Maybe I got a bad download of Baja? I haven't tried to re download
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If it is a bad download and you didn't redownload then it won't fix anything...Why don't you redownload? It's only a little over 1GB and shouldn't take long.
Boot into recovery, create a new ROM slot. Increase the data partition size to the max(I believe its 4gb). Use this slot and flash ROM. Profit
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If it is a bad download and you didn't redownload then it won't fix anything...Why don't you redownload? It's only a little over 1GB and shouldn't take long.
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Oh, I know, I don't have wifi at work and did everything I could without re-downloading at work. Sa the wipe and re-install of the old didn't fix it, so went back to the stock and set u y accounts and screens. Too lazy to do it again, lol.
I've been loading Rom after Rom on my S4 and settled on the GoldenEye 29 Rom.
Now.....after all is said and done, when plugged into my PC, it's only showing 9.57gb total.
16 gig phone.......... Strange??
I'm going to do a full factory wipe to bring i tback to the way it came out of the box
and start over.........How?? How to format the entire phone? EVERYTHING....bring
the directory structure back to normal?
Thanks.
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I've been loading Rom after Rom on my S4 and settled on the GoldenEye 29 Rom.
Now.....after all is said and done, when plugged into my PC, it's only showing 9.57gb total.
16 gig phone.......... Strange??
I'm going to do a full factory wipe to bring i tback to the way it came out of the box
and start over.........How?? How to format the entire phone? EVERYTHING....bring
the directory structure back to normal?
Thanks.
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Bloatware.
dssking said:
I've been loading Rom after Rom on my S4 and settled on the GoldenEye 29 Rom.
Now.....after all is said and done, when plugged into my PC, it's only showing 9.57gb total.
16 gig phone.......... Strange??
I'm going to do a full factory wipe to bring i tback to the way it came out of the box
and start over.........How?? How to format the entire phone? EVERYTHING....bring
the directory structure back to normal?
Thanks.
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If you want to bring it back like new use Odin and flash the same firmware you're currently on back onto the device
But the amount of storage you have does not look unreasonable. Did you make any nandroid backups? They take a lot of space
Edit, a search found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40717698
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Hey Guys.
But we are using custom roms. So how would it still take up the extra 6 gigs missing? Or am I forgetting something?
Unless I am missing something, you are not going to see more than that. I think the area that Samsung set aside is not changeable. And your numbers are consistent with what others report. My 32gb phone shows 23.81 availabe and 13.11 free after taking into account what I have loaded. It won't show 32gb. I am also running CM11 M6, a light rom in comparison to TW roms.
If I am off on this you more techy guys can set me straight--
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Hey Guys.
But we are using custom roms. So how would it still take up the extra 6 gigs missing? Or am I forgetting something?
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The partition sizes are set. Custom roms don't change those. Userdata is what you have available the rest is allocated by android. Even if you don't use all the space in other partitions you don't have access to that storage
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The partition sizes are set. Custom roms don't change those. Userdata is what you have available the rest is allocated by android. Even if you don't use all the space in other partitions you don't have access to that storage
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Thought So--:good:
Understood................makes sense. Good thing about the SD slot...........
Hi all, so to start with, as the title says im constantly running out of space on the FN model 2015, so ive dived into the forum looking for help. First thing i tried was the sd card hack to combine my 64gb sdcard with the 8gb internal. Harra! it worked, but then i still run outa space as it dosen't seam to to use the sdcard space as i had hoped. It's like it just copys some of the data from the apps to the SD card like normal but without having to go into the each app and selecting external sdcard. Kinda thought no probs I'll download a custom rom with no samsung apps and with a min gapp giving me as much storage space i could get. I can't see one, starting to think there isnt one. So my question is, is it hard for me to take my backup of my stock rom and strip what I can out bearing in mind I'm a bit of a noob and have to follow instructions from the clever ROM makers? not to bothered about increasing the speed and looks just the space. Would be able nice to update them without having to delete a few and re-install the ones I deleted. Any advice on what coarse to take would be great. Maybe theres a ROM I've mist I could use and give thanks for?
Cheers
Running 6.0.1
Drebbs
Hi,
Instead of using Adoptable Storage, make 2 partitions on your SD, 1 FAT32 for photos,music,documents and another EXT4 for apps data. Use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd , i tested it.
You can make 2 partitions using PC or with TWRP Recovery.
drebbs said:
Hi all, so to start with, as the title says im constantly running out of space on the FN model 2015, so ive dived into the forum looking for help. First thing i tried was the sd card hack to combine my 64gb sdcard with the 8gb internal. Harra! it worked, but then i still run outa space as it dosen't seam to to use the sdcard space as i had hoped. It's like it just copys some of the data from the apps to the SD card like normal but without having to go into the each app and selecting external sdcard. Kinda thought no probs I'll download a custom rom with no samsung apps and with a min gapp giving me as much storage space i could get. I can't see one, starting to think there isnt one. So my question is, is it hard for me to take my backup of my stock rom and strip what I can out bearing in mind I'm a bit of a noob and have to follow instructions from the clever ROM makers? not to bothered about increasing the speed and looks just the space. Would be able nice to update them without having to delete a few and re-install the ones I deleted. Any advice on what coarse to take would be great. Maybe theres a ROM I've mist I could use and give thanks for?
Cheers
Running 6.0.1
Drebbs
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Hey i recommend rooting ur phone then download an app called move to sd card from playstore go to settings and choose download locations then select external sd card . Problem solved
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here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...msung-j5-f-t3400101/post69989096#post69989096
Thanks for your reply! I went down the apps2SD route in the end. Kinda mest it up a bit but have free'd up nearly 1gb of space so thanks, that's more than enough! %) I ended up partitioning the SDcard and linking all the apps I'm not interested in, excel,Skype,Samsung etc. Anyway what i didn't realise was that i had mest the other part of the partition up. Ended up re-formatting the SDcard in recovery back to normal and those apps I didn't want 90% of the data of those have now been wiped %)