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Froyo Update Changes Thread - Pros and Cons

NOTE: THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO POST ISSUES WITH THE UPDATE PROCESS, ONLY ISSUES AFTER UPDATING THAT HAVE BEEN CAUSED/FIXED BY THE NEW VERSION.
In an effort to consolidate all the information into one thread, hopefully everyone can just post their own experience with the new Stock Froyo build here after having updated through Kies.
List issues you're experiencing, as well as issues that may have been fixed with this update from the previous version.
Hopefully this will cut back on thread spam and help people decide whether or not they want to try out the stock Froyo 2.2 update!
I'll start it off and say that so far I've heard that the Gallery is working great, but Avatar seems to be having DRM issues. GPS seems to be something where YMMV, some say it's great, some say it's worse.
What have you noticed?

So far all good things.
CONS: missing stock android keyboard, paid apps missing in Market until ROM is recognized.
I installed the GB KB and am good to go as far as that is concerned.

GPS in UVKA 7 still wayyy off for me, definitely a hardware issue.
I have not done any tweaks or change in settings, like a I said wayy off..

Pros (to me at least):
I noticed that the screen auto-rotation is now controllable via the notification/switch pulldown on the home screen.
I don't recall this from before, so please gently correct me if I'm wrong. While entering text, if you hold down on the entry window a blue pointer appears that you can use to place the cursor in the text easier.
Gmail improvements:
- You can reply/forward messages from the top of the email instead of having to scroll all the way to the bottom.
- You can scroll from from email to email by using arrows at the bottom of the window, instead of having to go back into inbox/outbox/etc and selecting the next email

CON: I can't get any data.
Any help?

With regards to the Calendar app, can anyone confirm whether or not you can now actually change the default calendar from My Calendar to Google? Or do you still have to change each new entry to Google when you go to add an entry into the Calendar? That was such a dumb move.... a step backwards from Android via Touch Wiz, heh.

Pros: higher Quadrant score than 2.1
Better UI
Mobile AP
Flash
Camera seems to be better in the dark now
Better battery life
Faster
Cons: No apps in the Market's Download section
Old market
Avatar is not accessible

shadrage said:
With regards to the Calendar app, can anyone confirm whether or not you can now actually change the default calendar from My Calendar to Google? Or do you still have to change each new entry to Google when you go to add an entry into the Calendar? That was such a dumb move.... a step backwards from Android via Touch Wiz, heh.
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You are able to set other calendars as the default calendar. I just created a new event and no longer does it default to the lame TouchWiz calendar.

How's the gallery perform? Does it freeze like it did after that small update T-Mobile sent out months ago?

Puraw Wave said:
How's the gallery perform? Does it freeze like it did after that small update T-Mobile sent out months ago?
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The issue with the gallery lock was always random for me. So far I have had no issues moving in and out of the gallery.

Avatar doesnt launch because the mouny point for the external sd has changes. The drm issue im unsure how to remedy.
Lag is still the same.
Still cant set default home screen.
Changed calendar notifications to white background.
Skype anf yahoo apps should work now.
C2DM works for apps like Trillian (saves a lot of battery)
Will check if the exchange client still rapes battery tomorrow.
Oh, and wifi calling/sms for those of us in very low reception areas.
Data speeds seem incredible. Wifi reception inproved...
Improved txt selection copy and paste. Darker notification bar.
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I kinda feel the phone is a little bit slower. Does anybody have the same feeling?
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Major problem, the haptic feedback is really really really weak. This happened b4 when i flashed a leaked 2.2 rom and the official one does the same thing -.-, the vibration intensity is at max when ur in the settings and set it to max u get a strong vibration, however when u press any of the 4 bottom buttons and dialer u get really weak vibration, feels like its at the lowest setting. This really annoys me. Does neone know how to fix this or if a rom currently out has alrdy fixed it?

Puraw Wave said:
How's the gallery perform? Does it freeze like it did after that small update T-Mobile sent out months ago?
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I have had horrible gallery issues, every time I opened it it would freeze. It's great now, but why the hell did they go back to old pics on the top? I want my recent pics on the top.
My gps did not work, but I turned it off, reset it w the gps restore app and now it locks in maps at 30 meters to start instead of 1400 meters. (so, much improved)
Avatar does not work for me, but I updated my co worker's phone, and hers works. wth
I can't look at my display settings, it forces close, I think because I had a bunch of flipfonts installed. I uninstalled them all and it still doesn't work. Any ideas?
ETA: Haptic feedback feels fine to me

I feel the phone is a bit lag too
I want to flash back to JFD and try it from zero again.
BTW I cant root with z4root, how can I root now?

KA6 was the version released through Samsung Kies

Flashed KA7 (screw KA6..). Took awhile to boot up but made it
Gallery seems to be okay, haven't deleted any pics yet. Phone seems as snappy as it did with KA5. Data speed seems the same as well. GPS actually performs better, if not the same as KA5. Just a minute or two to lock on and failry acurate within 30FT (on my way home I was able to lock onto 6-10 sats in a few seconds). Installed GB Keyboard, no issues there. Market udpated itself, apps show up and works just fine.
All in all, works just as good as KA5 did, with maybe some minor improvments.
PS. why is the haptic feedback such a huge issue? OMG MY BUTTONS DON'T VIBRATE WHEN TOUCHED!!

shoeless said:
Pros (to me at least):
I noticed that the screen auto-rotation is now controllable via the notification/switch pulldown on the home screen.
I don't recall this from before, so please gently correct me if I'm wrong. While entering text, if you hold down on the entry window a blue pointer appears that you can use to place the cursor in the text
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Both of those have been there since at least jl4.
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Unresolved issue I noticed so far :
- Still can not delete browser bookmarks !

Haptic feedback is extremely weak.

4.4.2 update has been out for a while, what are everyone's thoughts

Hi All,
Now that the KK update is out and installed on all RAZR HDs except for those that are pokey, I thought I'd see what everyone's opinions are.
Try to be a little more informative than "it's good", "I like it", or "it sucks", "I want a different phone". I figured this would be a good place to post up new tricks you've discovered, maybe weren't aware of before actually installing the new OS, and maybe help others discover and maximize the capabilities of the phone now.
DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD RELATED TO "WHEN IS THE NEW ROOT METHOD COMING"!!!! There are enough threads getting spammed with that nonsense.
I'll go first I guess:
- Liking the extra RAM that has been freed up with the update. About 30-40 additional MB, which in my case with everything I am running every little bit helps!
- Liking that I am now able to take advantage of the KK Xposed modules.
- Thankful that @iBolski pointed me to the new way to hack the wireless hotspot.
- I was toying with the Daydream option in settings, but couldn't get it to work correctly I don't think.
- Definitely enjoying having a 2-yr old phone that is software relevant again. Having unlimited data on VeeZeeDub I like being able to put off outright buying a phone again like I did this one.
- Liking the fact that lockscreen widgets can be posted on the lockscreen, and that a simple swype down from the clock (while using pattern lock method) moves the pattern lock to the bottom and allows the ability to view the widgets without unlocking the phone. Also like that camera is one of the widgets - much easier to get to in a pinch!
- Liking the fact that with Gravity Box [KK] I can use the frosted lockscreen image setting. Have been wanting that for a while.
- Also liking that when music is playing on the phone, the lockscreen image is changed to a picture of the album cover art (not sure if this is a mod I set up in XBlast Tools or in Gravity Box [KK] or something that is standard on the KK OS, but liking it regardless)
...more to come I'm sure!

I love it since I have root.
Things I love:
-Quicker to launch applications
-No lag, or hold ups
-The new pull down menu is a lot better.
-The lock screen and the ability to to take a picture while locked is very nice.
-Battery life seems to be better.
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
Overall, great update!

I concur with Modernmidnights assessment with the exception of Swype. I haven't used it since I purchased Swiftkey. Like that so much better.
My con was the popping noise, but that's fixed now with the fix that @kabaldan gave us. You can get that here:
http://d-h.st/vre
Otherwise, great performance. Lag is gone. Heck, I hate to say it, but I'm getting better performance out of stock than I did with Nexesque ROM and that ROM was great under JB.
Very happy with this release.

is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?

iBolski said:
I concur with Modernmidnights assessment with the exception of Swype. I haven't used it since I purchased Swiftkey. Like that so much better.
My con was the popping noise, but that's fixed now with the fix that @kabaldan gave us. You can get that here:
http://d-h.st/vre
Otherwise, great performance. Lag is gone. Heck, I hate to say it, but I'm getting better performance out of stock than I did with Nexesque ROM and that ROM was great under JB.
Very happy with this release.
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I'm also using Swiftkey, started before Swype was a feature for the AOSP keyboard (at least I think so, else I didn't know how to enable it while looking for it). I have already even deleted the stock keyboard, lol. Come to think of it I remember when Swiftkey added Swype. Was a test of sorts, then it disappeared for about a week, I was so mad I sent a nastygram to them to which they responded that it'll be coming in an update and that it was just a beta test.
Popping noise... mind elaborating slightly? I'm wondering if it's the same popping noise I am getting with autovoice enabled for listening...

LifeAsADroid said:
Popping noise... mind elaborating slightly? I'm wondering if it's the same popping noise I am getting with autovoice enabled for listening...
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Rather than rehash it all, here is a link to a thread I started over in the Q&A forum about it and @kabaldan provided a newly compiled boot image that fixes it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761162
It seems to affect some, but not all phones, whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked.

My apologies for making you respond, I should have looked harder. Your topic describing the issue was almost right below this thread. I don't think that's what my issue is.
I've noticed many problems with the stock messaging app and with hangouts as well, so many I deleted them both and switched to Go SMS pro.
Sigh, hearing there is another update from Motorola on the way makes me sad, I've customized the phone so much since the update I don't want to go back to stock and do it all over again.
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xubeiga said:
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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The latest motorola phone can do that because they have a dedicated , very low power processor for it , if we did this on our phone , it would ruin the battery life.
the closest you ca, achieve , is with nova launcher, you can program it to respond to "ok google" when you are on the main screen.

xubeiga said:
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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Google Now is already on the phone. Now, if you want it to launch from the launcher, then at this point, no. The Google Now Launcher is not available for this phone (yet).
However, as another poster stated, you can get the latest Nova Launcher and it has the ability to respond to "Ok Google" from the desktop.

Or, if one is rooted, use the Xposed module OK Google For Third Party Launchers and enable everything (all apps, EVERYTHING) within. Now I can use "OK Google" to launch Google Now from any application or screen (except for the lockscreen... still working on that one...)
Took about 5 minutes to go through all 150+ apps to enable them all, but worth it.

Another question for all:
Has anyone tried using the Moto Skip yet after upgrading to 4.4.2? I found the apk online (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-skip-apk-t2416837 check post #4)
It installed just fine and ran when entered from settings --> security, but I haven't actually tested it yet since I don't have any NFC tags on hand. Might see if I can pick up NFC tags to see if it works.
Little by little, changing this phone into a "Moto X Mini" lol. Let's call it Moto X Dragon, it sounds cooler 8) lol

LifeAsADroid said:
Or, if one is rooted, use the Xposed module OK Google For Third Party Launchers and enable everything (all apps, EVERYTHING) within. Now I can use "OK Google" to launch Google Now from any application or screen (except for the lockscreen... still working on that one...)
Took about 5 minutes to go through all 150+ apps to enable them all, but worth it.
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but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?

xubeiga said:
but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
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just did it with nova launcher it works.

xubeiga said:
but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
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Worked for me. Using "OK Google" command on the stock 4.4.2 Motorola launcher and the Xposed OK Google module.

billycar11 said:
just did it with nova launcher it works.
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LifeAsADroid said:
Worked for me. Using "OK Google" command on the stock 4.4.2 Motorola launcher and the Xposed OK Google module.
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you gotta be kidding me!!
seriously? lol i would love to have that.
just waiting the update here in Brazil, and waiting for the phone arrives. (grrr why does it take soo longggg -_- it actually passed only 4 days since i bought it and the max prize is 13/06 but I WANT ITTTTTTTTTTT NOWW)
Motorola Moto HD? hahah

modernmidnight said:
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
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Did you know that Google keyboard works with KitKat, and is a marvelous substitute for Swype, with regard to gesture typing? And it's free. Get it in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin

Not_A_Dev said:
Did you know that Google keyboard works with KitKat, and is a marvelous substitute for Swype, with regard to gesture typing? And it's free. Get it in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
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As someone who has used Google Keyboard, Swype, and Swiftkey all quite a bit, Google Keyboard's gesture typing isn't as good as the other two.
I still use it, but that might be a dealbreaker for some people.

killrhythm09 said:
As someone who has used Google Keyboard, Swype, and Swiftkey all quite a bit, Google Keyboard's gesture typing isn't as good as the other two.
I still use it, but that might be a dealbreaker for some people.
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Well, I'm sure you have heard what they say about gift horses and their mouths...

modernmidnight said:
I love it since I have root.
Things I love:
-Quicker to launch applications
-No lag, or hold ups
-The new pull down menu is a lot better.
-The lock screen and the ability to to take a picture while locked is very nice.
-Battery life seems to be better.
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
Overall, great update!
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Google Keyboard has a swype alternative that's free
Please excuse my lateness lol
I think personally, the OS is a lot snappier but there are a lot of bugs that are still present in the final release thought, I haven't had the popping noise sound but I have encountered soft reboots when I boot the phone with headphones in, it does lag a little sometimes but that's due to lack or ram. I love wireless printing, and read receipts. Would love art runtime if more apps were compatible with it. I'm just glad to have it. Having an locked bootloader isn't that great, the first Razr Maxx HD I had was and that was lovely, but I digress. Daydream is kind of useless to me. I am a battery converservationists. The multiple home launcher selector was well worth the wait. I can run Nova Launcher or the Google Now Launcher whenever I want to. Another drawback is that I can't write anything to the SD card unless it's with a system app now. Battery life is decent, I get a full day of heavy usage everyday. Which is the reason I purchased the phone, battery life. After a few days of running KitKat the random battery drain stopped for me.

i'm now on JB rooted, and i've change my font to playful. If i update to kitkat, will i lost my font? coz i realy love the font :crying:

After such a long wait, what are your thoughts on the lollipop update?

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While you're waiting for our thoughts, why don't you tell us yours?

I concur

Battery life seems to be sucking!
Gonna reformat my sdcard & then put my media on it & see if that helps before having to do a factory reset.. used to get 2-2.5 days our of a charge now this battery prediction add-on is saying 10 hours left on a battery I just put in an hour ago. Completely stock & not rooted, so backups are a pain & Helium apparently isn't 100% so that option seems pointless. Suggestions?

Camera focuses soooo much better now.

i0423x said:
Camera focuses soooo much better now.
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mine also.. that was on my list of things i disliked about this phone and it seems loved.

Google Smart Lock is a welcomed feature.

No carrier IQ

DigitalChris602 said:
While you're waiting for our thoughts, why don't you tell us yours?
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Don't have any
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app

Camera is better. OS is smooth and snappy. Only issue I've had was "Samsung keyboard" force closing. Happened 3 times today. Twice with Facebook messenger and once with in the stock text app.
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Long press on Power button no longer brings up volume options (sound, vibrate, silent). [emoji107] [emoji26]
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Not sure yet -
I haven't noticed any issues with Maps. I kinda like the new swipe on the lock screen to swipe to the phone dialer. I don't like taking away the audio controls on the power button screen. Love the fast camera focus (didn't know about that till I read this thread).

For whatever reason I can't seem to find the trusted devices thing for my FitBit...
EDIT:
Scratch that. Gotta enable SmartLock in the security settings.

Do you guys recommend a complete reset?

My most wanted feature was the combined security lock screen (Finger lock, PIN, etc) and I can't seem to find a way to enable it here.

I don't like the new lock screen notifications now. I don't need to see my BT devices and Ultimate Rotation Control on my lock screen. I'm fine with the missed calls, texts and emails but not with the others taking up unnecessary screen space.
Anyone know how to get them to show back up in the notification bar up top?

I like the camera, UI changes, look, etc. Overall system seems quicker. I have not had any issues so far but it has been less than 1 day of usage. I did notice the battery discharged quickly at first, however it seems that the battery drain is leveling off after a while.

I always used the stock messenger app. I really don't like all the orange. I'm trying alternatives now. So far textra is nice with black background

Calls don't work with android auto.

You guys tried benchmarks? Look antutu, is extremely low!! :/

Gallexy s7 edge, edge panel Delay when swipe to open

As the title says, I'm experiencing a delay when swiping to open edge panel.
Is anybody else experiencing this issue, or know if something get solve or make it better?

henengel said:
As the title says, I'm experiencing a delay when swiping to open edge panel.
Is anybody else experiencing this issue, or know if something get solve or make it better?
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Hey, I'm having a similar issue with my edge panel, and it's driving me insane. Most of the time, it'll swipe open perfectly. Sometimes, though, it gets stuck and will take three or four swipes before it slides open. I'm almost positive it's a software rather than a hardware issue. If it were hardware, then it should swipe perfectly all the time or swipe inconsistently all the time. I use Package Disabler Pro and Greenify. Thus, I wonder if maybe it's due to disabling or Greenifying the wrong app. Anyhow, I'm actually factoring resetting my phone as I type this. I'm hoping that it will take care of it. I'll keep checking the panel as I Greenify and disable apps, and I'll tell you what I figure out.
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Definitely software related. After the factory reset, it's working like a charm. Try it.

rebelde80 said:
Hey, I'm having a similar issue with my edge panel, and it's driving me insane. Most of the time, it'll swipe open perfectly. Sometimes, though, it gets stuck and will take three or four swipes before it slides open. I'm almost positive it's a software rather than a hardware issue. If it were hardware, then it should swipe perfectly all the time or swipe inconsistently all the time. I use Package Disabler Pro and Greenify. Thus, I wonder if maybe it's due to disabling or Greenifying the wrong app. Anyhow, I'm actually factoring resetting my phone as I type this. I'm hoping that it will take care of it. I'll keep checking the panel as I Greenify and disable apps, and I'll tell you what I figure out.
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Definitely software related. After the factory reset, it's working like a charm. Try it.
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After the factory reset, did you add all of your apps to Edge apps panel, and it works well or does it work well in the default mode as it is after the factory reset?

@MikeChannon
Hi there,
Can you please change the word "Delilah" in the thread title to" Delay", so that it would be clearer to other users?
The Android keyboard "fixed" my typing, and I noticed only now.
Thank you very much.

henengel said:
After the factory reset, did you add all of your apps to Edge apps panel, and it works well or does it work well in the default mode as it is after the factory reset?
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Unfortunately, as soon as I added my apps to the panel and set up PDP it started happening, but less frequently. I'm so confused. I did notice that it seems to happen only if I immediately try to swipe it after closing an app. Like maybe the panel needs a couple of seconds to refresh itself? I also think my screen protector plays a role. Additionally, how I swipe is a factor. If I start my swipe to far outside the edge screen, it usually won't slide out. But if I start it at exactly where the tab is, it slides out as expected. I'm pretty sure it isn't a hardware issue. It definitely seems software related. I'm going to stop worrying unless it gets worse and hopefully with time I'll figure it out.
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rebelde80 said:
Unfortunately, as soon as I added my apps to the panel and set up PDP it started happening, but less frequently. I'm so confused. I did notice that it seems to happen only if I immediately try to swipe it after closing an app. Like maybe the panel needs a couple of seconds to refresh itself? I also think my screen protector plays a role. Additionally, how I swipe is a factor. If I start my swipe to far outside the edge screen, it usually won't slide out. But if I start it at exactly where the tab is, it slides out as expected. I'm pretty sure it isn't a hardware issue. It definitely seems software related. I'm going to stop worrying unless it gets worse and hopefully with time I'll figure it out.
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I can confirm on my end that the screen protector doesn't affect the problem, I don't have one and still have the issue.
Also for me sometimes open perfectly after closing an app, and sometimes it stumbles.
I also hope they figure out the problem and fix it....

So do I. I think I notice things like this because I tend to be weird about my phones. They've gotta be perfect. I'm sure a normal user would have given this no thought.
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rebelde80 said:
So do I. I think I notice things like this because I tend to be weird about my phones. They've gotta be perfect. I'm sure a normal user would have given this no thought.
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Same here. I tend to take my mobiles to the extreme. A normal user probably wouldn't set access to all of his app via the edge apps panel. To bad Samsung doesn't think about these options in development.

henengel said:
Same here. I tend to take my mobiles to the extreme. A normal user probably wouldn't set access to all of his app via the edge apps panel. To bad Samsung doesn't think about these options in development.
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Ok, I think I figured it out. My carrier is T-Mobile. Not sure who you have. But if I go to Apps in Settings, and then select Galaxy Apps and Uninstall Updates, the edge panel works as it should. Try it.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me... Did as you said... For me it's not 100% but for sure works better... Noticeable difference..

Have you had better luck??

No Idea to help Actually ..

Latest ATT Update (March '18) - new Messaging/Gallery apps?

Did anyone get the latest security update yet from AT&T?
Looks like it was security patches, but my Messaging and Gallery apps changed.
I am OK with the gallery app, and the Messaging app is OK with the exception the text is pretty damn small! I know you can pinch to zoom, but I am unable to find anyway to keep the ZOOM setting I selected in the new Messaging app, as soon as I back out and go back to a person I was chatting with, the text is back to being small.
Just confirming I'm not the only one with this issue.
Chris

Oh, believe me, you are not alone. Mine is doing the same thing. It is also showing replies to texts in white text boxes with white type. I had to switch my purchased themes 4 times to find one that didn't do this! I also lost the ability to schedule messages, and lost all of my quick responses! This is VERY annoying.
Krista

Ditto here, white text on white background for incoming texts. Exceptionally annoying.
A few people have complained on the AT&T support forums (https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung-Discussion-Support/Text-bubble-issue/m-p/5452599/thread-id/35765), but it seems the forum moderators are going thru and deleting threads and replies. And so far, the only "answer" wasn't an answer at all, just a canned response pointing to a tutorial (that wasn't there last night, btw) on how to change messaging settings.
If anyone has any ideas, please let us know.

Using pulse for messaging. And sungstratum for theming. It's a part of substratum. No root.

xc rider said:
Using pulse for messaging. And sungstratum for theming. It's a part of substratum. No root.
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I don't understand what you mean, please explain.

It's another SMS app, you can download it on the playstore.

Thanks everyone for confirming it wasn't just me. It's a shame because the stock txting app wasn't pretty bad for the past ~2 years....here's hoping AT&T steps up, otherwise I will go third party too...

Pulse is awesome. I have the paid subscription and can access my txts from any device.

First, new "update" fubared text messaging; now, there's something running in the background that's turning it into a hotplate & sucking the battery down in just a couple hours, instead of decent consumption all day long. Even after a reboot & running the "save battery" app in Settings, it's still warm to the touch, & draining the battery too quickly.
Does AT&T have plans to fix this, or is this a push to force an upgrade? (this I put to them on their forum)
SAMSUNG-SM-G891A
Android. 7.0
Patch level January 1, 2018 (so no shenanigans about "security enhancements" in this one, they ain't there)

There were betas for these updates for several months now. There must have been some big changes under the hood and this one came as a 500MB update rather than a 35MB security patch. Probably stuck with any bugs until the next major update which will most likely be Oreo. All of this is just speculation on my part.

I didn't receive any notification on my S7 Active regarding BETAs - how do you sign up for those? I would have gladly given feedback on this Messaging app....

They don't have a beta program open to the public as far as I know. Over on the firmware update thread, user khaliullov posts a link to firmware and uncovered a way to directly download firmware from ATT's servers. That's where I've seen betas for this update for the past few months. You don't want to have those betas installed as they offer no upgrade path, so you would be stuck with the issues that whatever beta you used came with.

Got it - thanks for the info!

Looks like time to investigate rooting the phone...

Just got prompted for another update - let's see what this one does...

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Just got prompted for another update - let's see what this one does...
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Same here, can't really see any difference in anything so far.

No difference here either, unfortunately. I was really hoping the Messages app would be updated. This new one SUCKS.

Is there anyone would could grab the old messaging app, make it a APK and then let us sideload it? I would be VERY interested in this, as would others.... this new Messaging app is junk!

The new messaging app is really weird, but all the features are there.... you hafta hit the + sign & the features come up. To schedule messages and more.

Could be worse, half your account could be stuck in Spanish. It's been well over a year and they still can't do anything about it. Lol.