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Have the Canadian s4 (rogers variant) i377m , I was running gummy 1.1 (kitkat) rom and decided to revert to stock after some issues with wifi camera, time not updating, etc.... and someone had requested some files from the variant for dev unbrick stuff. Crappy timing, because when I pulled the stock fw from samsungupdates it was 4.3 . flashed via odin, lost my cwm and root but figured I'd just repeat the auto-root method. Then I saw Knox. Did some research, and saw all the issues everyone is having with custom recoveries not booting. Then I found a work around, however performing said work around would set Knox status to 0x1 and void warranty. Since phone is only 2 weeks old, figured I'd hang tight for another method.
Did some more checking and t turns out, Knox isn't actually installed, nor are the files when I search by name, if I tap it it tells me I can download and install knox (no thanks) and I just haven't bothered. it's just a shortcut. I'm wondering if anyone can answer whether or not I can safely flash with Odin via auto-root method to re-root and install TWRP or CWM recovery? I'd prefer not to lose warranty, but since knox doesn't appear to be actually installed, not sure I have to worry about that.
Here are my particulars:
Rogers i377m
JB 4.3 (official)
im mk6 baseband
kernel is 3.4.0-2142508 with build date of sat nov 16 (believe still custom from rom???)
However, SEL Linux is now enforcing.
Can anyone tell me with above config, which method would be best to use (to obtain root) . I did backup my IEMI with qpst back when I was on 4.2.2 . Could I potentially restore said IEMI with qpst, then re-flash the 4.2.2 fw to get out of this Konx/SEL enforce I'm seeing?
I don't have a ton of experience, but I have been reading as much as I can, and I've flashed my phone from 4.2.2 to all my custom stuff (and a co-workers) and have reverted back to stock with odin. I don't have a usb jig if I soft brick (but I suppose I could make one), and I work in the IT field so I'm faily competent. Need a little direction/confirmation.
azuziel said:
Have the Canadian s4 (rogers variant) i377m , I was running gummy 1.1 (kitkat) rom and decided to revert to stock after some issues with wifi camera, time not updating, etc.... and someone had requested some files from the variant for dev unbrick stuff. Crappy timing, because when I pulled the stock fw from samsungupdates it was 4.3 . flashed via odin, lost my cwm and root but figured I'd just repeat the auto-root method. Then I saw Knox. Did some research, and saw all the issues everyone is having with custom recoveries not booting. Then I found a work around, however performing said work around would set Knox status to 0x1 and void warranty. Since phone is only 2 weeks old, figured I'd hang tight for another method.
Did some more checking and t turns out, Knox isn't actually installed, nor are the files when I search by name, if I tap it it tells me I can download and install knox (no thanks) and I just haven't bothered. it's just a shortcut. I'm wondering if anyone can answer whether or not I can safely flash with Odin via auto-root method to re-root and install TWRP or CWM recovery? I'd prefer not to lose warranty, but since knox doesn't appear to be actually installed, not sure I have to worry about that.
Here are my particulars:
Rogers i377m
JB 4.3 (official)
im mk6 baseband
kernel is 3.4.0-2142508 with build date of sat nov 16 (believe still custom from rom???)
However, SEL Linux is now enforcing.
Can anyone tell me with above config, which method would be best to use (to obtain root) . I did backup my IEMI with qpst back when I was on 4.2.2 . Could I potentially restore said IEMI with qpst, then re-flash the 4.2.2 fw to get out of this Konx/SEL enforce I'm seeing?
I don't have a ton of experience, but I have been reading as much as I can, and I've flashed my phone from 4.2.2 to all my custom stuff (and a co-workers) and have reverted back to stock with odin. I don't have a usb jig if I soft brick (but I suppose I could make one), and I work in the IT field so I'm faily competent. Need a little direction/confirmation.
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I am waiting for an answer to that question too. Got my S4 on friday. Was on 4.2.2 and I let it update to 4.3 without even asking myself "Is that OK?". I've read all that stuff about MF3 (AT&T) and I am wondering if Canadian's MK6 is something like MF3. Forcing us to use other recoveries than CWM or TWRP.
Bleedos said:
I am waiting for an answer to that question too. Got my S4 on friday. Was on 4.2.2 and I let it update to 4.3 without even asking myself "Is that OK?". I've read all that stuff about MF3 (AT&T) and I am wondering if Canadian's MK6 is something like MF3. Forcing us to use other recoveries than CWM or TWRP.
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Yeah I don't particularly care about the Knox counter and warranty, what I do care about is being able to run custom recovery (CWM in particular). I would hate to root, blow the knox counter, then find out can't run custom recoveries anyway. I've read conflicting info on this. I know once knox is installed, that's what can happen. However with our particular rogers variant (at least mine, I flashed with odin to 4.3 tho) Knox isn't installed anywhere, at all, just a shortcut to install if desired. And I don't desire. May have to just bite the bullet and try, but I'll wait a bit longer first to see if someone has a concrete answer on our particular MK6 version.
believe we have our answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47840073
According to post above, SGH-I337M from rogers running 4.3 MK6 can be rooted with CF-AUTO-ROOT
not sure about that bootloaders, but the method shoud work with odin.
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I also have the Rogers 4.3 update installed on my I337m, and I only see the Knox shortcut. Does this mean it's not installed? Will it still trip the counter if I root?
You can use that but it will trip the counter. I know because that's what I did. There are apparently other methods floating around that won't trip knox. However I am able to root and run custom recoveries and roms just like before no problems.
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maestro18 said:
I also have the Rogers 4.3 update installed on my I337m, and I only see the Knox shortcut. Does this mean it's not installed? Will it still trip the counter if I root?
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Honestly? I don't know. I have the same. Knox shortcut (deleted). I guess the easiest way to check would be to boot into download mode (VOL down+power+home at start up) and check for
KNOX = 0x0 (warranty good)
KNOX = 0x1 (warranty void)
then just pull the battery and boot back up normally.
htc0101 said:
You can use that but it will trip the counter. I know because that's what I did. There are apparently other methods floating around that won't trip knox. However I am able to root and run custom recoveries and roms just like before no problems.
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Yeah, there is a method of cooking the root into the image before flashing with odin. just google "universal root de la vega" for method. I haven't tried this method yet, but it seems to work well for everyone that has (on i337m) , and wants to keep knox un-tripped. Apparently Kingo can do it too, but i hear adware complaints about that. Not sure I care about knox, as there are other methods of flashing official modem update files via odin (when new updates are released) to obtain the updates without using OTA or kies.
canadian bell user here...
I flashed the 4.3 update and yes it does include knox bootloaders.
Yes, rooting, installing custom recovery or kernel will trip a Knox Warranty Counter, that has not been hacked yet. (word is, that it is software not hardware based).
Did I trip mine? yup.
Do I care? nope.
Bell Smartphone Protection Plan 8$ per month, plus 160$ when getting replacement (beats 600$) covers lost/stolen, water damaged, and smashed phones... and dont care if the bootloader or flash counter is tripped. (kinda hard to tell if the screen is smashed or phone is stolen anyway.)
They ship it to samsung who disassembles the phone, replaces the broken parts, and flashes back to stock with counter reset, tests, and puts it in the refurbished pile. . they never check, care or can do anything about it after a point.
This is how i got my S4, broke my S3 and had the opportunity to get a different replacement model for same price. They shipped my new phone in 3 days, with a return postage sticker for my old, cracked but still functional S3. 0 downtime. 0 hassle.
cf root work
Cf root worked for my 4.3 update on my Canadian rogers. I'm looking for the 4.3 stock rom for rogers now with no luck. Does anyone have any idea
4.3 stock is on Samsungupdates i cant post links yet or i would post it. I used it, and mentioned it in this thread.
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azuziel said:
4.3 stock is on Samsungupdates i cant post links yet or i would post it. I used it, and mentioned it in this thread.
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http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SGH-I337M
Yay, I can post links now. Enjoy. Make sure you mouse over region and find rogers variant.
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Yeah I don't particularly care about the Knox counter and warranty, what I do care about is being able to run custom recovery (CWM in particular). I would hate to root, blow the knox counter, then find out can't run custom recoveries anyway. I've read conflicting info on this. I know once knox is installed, that's what can happen. However with our particular rogers variant (at least mine, I flashed with odin to 4.3 tho) Knox isn't installed anywhere, at all, just a shortcut to install if desired. And I don't desire. May have to just bite the bullet and try, but I'll wait a bit longer first to see if someone has a concrete answer on our particular MK6 version.
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Did it the easy way using the Cyanogen Installer (http://beta.download.cyanogenmod.org/install).
Ended with CM10.2 and CWM 6.0.4.4
Then I found this link for flashable zips for CWM and TWRP.
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=8421
Got this link from there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43216990&postcount=3
Make sure you thank iB4STiD
I flashed CWM Touch 6.0.4.4
I was running the stock AMG1 which showed KNOX. I was told that if I can flash a custom recovery such as TWRP or CMR, that my phone is not locked. So I flashed AMDJ to see. I also flashed TWRP with no issues. I then installed Gummy version:1.1-11-21-13-UNOFFICIAL. I found KNOX but was able to remove it using Titanium Backup. Apparently it was not activated? I am now on Android 4.4, Baseband I337MVLUAMDJ, Kernel Version [email protected] #1 Thu Nov 21,2013, Gummy Version 1.1-11-21-13-UNOFFICIAL, Build Date Thu Nov 21, 2013, Build Number KRT16S, SELinux Status Permissive. I am using the SGH-I337M from BELL.
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I would like to install AWS Bands for T-Mobile on my BELL I337M. I am currently running Gummy 1.1 on version 4.4. I was told that I can't install T-Mobile AWS bands without messing up my IMEI etc. if I am not on a stock ROM. Can anyone confirm or deny this? My phone runs painfully slow on T-Mobile (Edge 2G). Any information would be much appreciated.
Fido s4 user here. I updated to 4.3, used auto root, and don't care about tripping counter. But since doing all that (2 weeks ago), I've tried two custom roms, and they don't get past boot screen after installation. I get this thing about seandroid and kernel, recovery. Not sure what to do about that. :-\
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Miyamato said:
Fido s4 user here. I updated to 4.3, used auto root, and don't care about tripping counter. But since doing all that (2 weeks ago), I've tried two custom roms, and they don't get past boot screen after installation. I get this thing about seandroid and kernel, recovery. Not sure what to do about that. :-\
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Try Flash the proper kernel. Do a factory reset via cwm after flashing as well to remove the old user data.
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azuziel said:
Try Flash the proper kernel. Do a factory reset via cwm after flashing as well to remove the old user data.
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What kernel are you talking about? Do you have a link by any chance?
so since updating to 4.3 via OTA, then rooting phone (auto root). If i wanted to unroot the phone (SELinux is enforcing), I shouldn't have any problem unrooting it via Odin 1.85 with fido firmware for 4.3, correct?
Targor_Avelany said:
What kernel are you talking about? Do you have a link by any chance?
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If having kernel issues then i find easiest way to remedy is to flash a stock firmware. The img file contains the stock kernel. This will get you back to a working state, then use saferoot or kingo to reroot, goo manager for twrp or cwm installer for custom recovey, and off you go.
I generally avoid roms that don't include the proper kernel. Gummy rom (kitkat) includes proper kernel and is the most stable non stock fw ive run, personally.
Miyamato said:
so since updating to 4.3 via OTA, then rooting phone (auto root). If i wanted to unroot the phone (SELinux is enforcing), I shouldn't have any problem unrooting it via Odin 1.85 with fido firmware for 4.3, correct?
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Selinux is enforced on 4.3 yes. There are methods for putting into permissive, but isnt really necessary as most apps have been updated to run on 4.3.
Regarind unroot via flashing stock, correct. Stock will flash stock recovery, stock kernel and os, and yes it removes root. Like any flash, be sure to wipe old sys/user data via a factory reset after flashinf stock if you boot loop (soft brick).
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I rooted my galaxy s4 sgh-i337 runing android 4.4.2 today using towel root. It is an apk you install and will root any phone with 4.4.2 or lower. Well I tried flashing clockworkmod but when it restarts a message from at&t comes up saying that unauthorize software is trying to install on phone. So I think that means the bootloader is locked. How do I unlock it so I can flash CWM and perform a nandroid backup. Then I want to install custom roms. I know alot of people were looking for 4.4.2 root for s4 so might want to post another thread about towel root. towelroot .com
patstar5 said:
I rooted my galaxy s4 sgh-i337 runing android 4.4.2 today using towel root. It is an apk you install and will root any phone with 4.4.2 or lower. Well I tried flashing clockworkmod but when it restarts a message from at&t comes up saying that unauthorize software is trying to install on phone. So I think that means the bootloader is locked. How do I unlock it so I can flash CWM and perform a nandroid backup. Then I want to install custom roms. I know alot of people were looking for 4.4.2 root for s4 so might want to post another thread about towel root. towelroot .com
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You CANNOT install CWM or TWRP. You will need to use SafeStrap recovery. Read up about it, as I have the older Loki bypass and don't need/use towelroot or safestrap.
With safestrap you are limited to flashing Touchwiz based roms. You can flash modems. You CANNOT flash kernels.
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RockRatt said:
You CANNOT install CWM or TWRP. You will need to use SafeStrap recovery. Read up about it, as I have the older Loki bypass and don't need/use towelroot or safestrap.
With safestrap you are limited to flashing Touchwiz based roms. You can flash modems. You CANNOT flash kernels.
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So I can't use cyanogenmod, aosp, aopk, or pacman roms?
patstar5 said:
So I can't use cyanogenmod, aosp, aopk, or pacman roms?
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There's one partially working Google Play edition rom, but otherwise, no.
This makes me truly sad. I was so looking forward to possibly flashing these ROMS and now...I have to get it my time machine and go backwards lol whenever I find the time to figure the downgrading thing out. Sounds to me like I'll be happier when I do find the time.
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There is no way going back to the older bootloader. The only way to go back would be to find an older S4 on eBay etc. with the old BL
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patstar5 said:
I rooted my galaxy s4 sgh-i337 runing android 4.4.2 today using towel root. It is an apk you install and will root any phone with 4.4.2 or lower. Well I tried flashing clockworkmod but when it restarts a message from at&t comes up saying that unauthorize software is trying to install on phone. So I think that means the bootloader is locked. How do I unlock it so I can flash CWM and perform a nandroid backup. Then I want to install custom roms. I know alot of people were looking for 4.4.2 root for s4 so might want to post another thread about towel root. towelroot .com
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All the post below are correct except being able to go back to firmware with an unlocked boot loader.. Install safestrap 3.72 and install recovery. You will get a Twrp recovery .. dont try flashing custom kernels ..It might flash but none of the setting such as overclock etc. will work .nor will you be on that kernel version afterwrds .. I guess the simple answer is no for cwm and aosp roms .. You will be only able too flash custom stock roms
Wifi issues with towelrooted gs4
First off this may not be the right place for this (first time poster), and if so, either please help me in finding the right forum or forgive my ignorance.
I rooted my galaxy s4 today, and I have found that when I am trying to use wifi I am unable to connect to some pages. Using chrome I am unable to load google.com, or google anything directly from the search bar. And the app imgur also doesn't load whilst on wifi, but if I switch to my cell network they load just fine. If I had unlimited data of course this would not be an issue, but that is not the case and therefore I come to this forum and hope that someone can help me out!
My s4 is an at&t i337. I would amazingly, greatly appreciate any help!
Much thanks in advance!
lost recovery with unlocked bootloader
Hello,
longtime flasher here, not as familiar with gs4.
My girl has a sgh-i337 that has been bootloader unlocked since day one. Been on TWRP and slim rom the whole time too.
I was wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and System prior to doing a rom update and TWRP glitched out while updating partition after the final wipe operation. Screen went black. Boots to download mode only.Will not boot rom (as system was wiped) but shows the samsung custom unlocked logo. When in download (odin) mode, I see product name: sgh-1337, Current Binary: Samsung Official, System Status: Custom CSB_OEM_LSB: 0x30 Write Protection: enable
universal android toolkit will not show device connected so Installation of custom recovery through toolkit fails. ADB will not show device connected. ODIN will show device connected, though.
To recover with odin, can I flash the I337UCUAMDL from sammobile and retain unlocked bootloader?
Thanks for any and all help.
What is the bootloader version you need to unlock? I have 4.2.2 Red ATT S4, Baseband Version : I337UCUAMF3 / BUILD: JDQ39 , if i was able to unlock how would i go about doing so? I was hoping i could do something with Loki if not? How does Loki work exactly as well?
Congrats, you just voided your warranty. It will be 0x1 instead of 0x0.
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Just FYI for you guys hijacking the thread. It is usually better for you if you start your own thread. Most people skim these threads and may lose track of who they were helping or give bad info to you thinking they were replying to the original question. Or, just skip the thread if they don't think the OP tiltle interests them.
You will get more direct answers and quicker help if you do. Or try to post here--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2320430
Just trying to get you faster and more accurate responses--:good:
How did you root S4?
patstar5 said:
I rooted my galaxy s4 sgh-i337 runing android 4.4.2 today using towel root. It is an apk you install and will root any phone with 4.4.2 or lower. Well I tried flashing clockworkmod but when it restarts a message from at&t comes up saying that unauthorize software is trying to install on phone. So I think that means the bootloader is locked. How do I unlock it so I can flash CWM and perform a nandroid backup. Then I want to install custom roms. I know alot of people were looking for 4.4.2 root for s4 so might want to post another thread about towel root. towelroot .com
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How did you root your galaxy? I've been trying for two days now and no matter what I try to do it never works, fortunately I haven't bricked my phone but I feel like it's only a matter of time! I have a:
Samsung SGH-I337 for AT&T
4.4.2
Baseband Version: I337UCUFNI1
Kernel version: 3.4.0 Sep. 4th
Security software version v1.0 Release 2
th3doorMATT said:
How did you root your galaxy? I've been trying for two days now and no matter what I try to do it never works, fortunately I haven't bricked my phone but I feel like it's only a matter of time! I have a:
Samsung SGH-I337 for AT&T
4.4.2
Baseband Version: I337UCUFNI1
Kernel version: 3.4.0 Sep. 4th
Security software version v1.0 Release 2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55537351
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Using Odin 3.10
jd1639 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55537351
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I've tried using other methods I'm not home to try this one out but every time I've connected my phone to Odin the COM Port has always been blue, I've never gotten it to be yellow like I've read in other guides. Any time I've tried to flash when it's blue it's failed. Any suggestions to get it yellow?
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I've tried using other methods I'm not home to try this one out but every time I've connected my phone to Odin the COM Port has always been blue, I've never gotten it to be yellow like I've read in other guides. Any time I've tried to flash when it's blue it's failed. Any suggestions to get it yellow?
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I believe in Odin 3.09 it is blue I've always used 1.85 where it's yellow. What tar file are you trying to flash?
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I believe in Odin 3.09 it is blue I've always used 1.85 where it's yellow. What tar file are you trying to flash?
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Hmmm. I still don't know why it fails but when I get home I'll have to let you know. I've deleted several after failing. I'm sure I can find them again and I think I still have a few as well so I'll let you know.
CF Auto Root and Towelroot
jd1639 said:
I believe in Odin 3.09 it is blue I've always used 1.85 where it's yellow. What tar file are you trying to flash?
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I've used both CF Auto Root, Towelroot, and Motochopper guides and none of them have worked.
The only file I have on my computer is: philz_touch_6.08.9-jflteatt.tar.md5 as one of the files I used but that didn't work. I actually had already downloaded the files from the article you had linked but I didn't get around to it yet, I'm going to try that method out in about 15-30mins and see what happens.
It worked!
jd1639 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55537351
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Followed everything on that post and it worked! I'm rooted!
Though I'm not sure if you know about custom recoveries. I'm having issues with installing any of them and having it work. I am currently trying Safestrap and for some reason it won't install the recovery. It'll go through the process, but the state of the recovery won't change or anything.
I ultimately want to install CM11, but I'm really struggling to find a way that works!
unlocked bootloader.....
patstar5 said:
I rooted my galaxy s4 sgh-i337 runing android 4.4.2 today using towel root. It is an apk you install and will root any phone with 4.4.2 or lower. Well I tried flashing clockworkmod but when it restarts a message from at&t comes up saying that unauthorize software is trying to install on phone. So I think that means the bootloader is locked. How do I unlock it so I can flash CWM and perform a nandroid backup. Then I want to install custom roms. I know alot of people were looking for 4.4.2 root for s4 so might want to post another thread about towel root. towelroot .com
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I still can't figure how to install the .apk file from kingroot..? How do you install the file to root it..?
Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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tempest22 said:
Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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Use the search engine and you will find answers to those questions
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fffft said:
Asked and answered many times. Read a few posts in the forum, do a search or look in my post history for all of the details.
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sigh...look, I only wish to know whether Towelroot is dead and/or what I can do to make it work on my S5. I can't look through thousands of ultra specific threads. I'm not a phone guy. Someone just give me a straight answer and I'm happy. Please. You guys are the experts, I'm not.
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Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
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Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
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Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
I don't think flashing a ROM via odin makes you lose your warranty, flashing a custom recovery would, bootloader, modem. But not the entire official TAR file. So you won't have anything to worry about. If it were me id do everything I can to retain my warranty, chances are Knox will never be fixed, so if you trip it then it'll stay that way. There is a guide once you're rooted in neat ROMs thread, its straight forward, just download everything you need, get Odin ready and follow the guide. Should be a walk in the park.
Good luck m8
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tempest22 said:
Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
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Not disregarding other replies " But", if your not concerned about warranty, and your work doesn't require your phone to have Knox security enabled, Root and flash to your hearts content. Again.... If warranty, is Not a concern, go for it, because trying to maintain Knox 0x0, makes things more complicated than they need to be, nor do you get to try all options at your disposal , and really if you weren't a little bit of a risk taker you would not even know what XDA does.(Odin away, lol) Again just my opinion and if it offends, disregard.
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Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
Dravekx said:
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
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I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
rdar_93 said:
I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
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That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Copied from another post I had.
I don't know much about the device which is why I'm trying to find out.
Dravekx said:
That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
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I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
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Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
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Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
rdar_93 said:
I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
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Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
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Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
rdar_93 said:
Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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The kernel can't be changed...although it can be "tuned" if you have root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58813428
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
BladeRunner said:
It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
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Thanks man, I was supposed to update this thread saying that I got through with the proper procedure for installing Jasmine Rom
Although I was running Eclipse before, and I wanted to try going back to stock but it just got stuck on the Verizon splash screen
I'm thinking it's because I had the NC2 kernel active when I should have gone back to the NC4 kernel
I looked for a NC4 kernel to flash but I only saw the modems and tar files, so not knowing if those were the same as kernels I decided to just try Jasmine. So far, I like it.
I have crazy battery drain though. I think it's because I'm running it in Slot 1
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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Safestrap does not trip knox.
mjh68 said:
Safestrap does not trip knox.
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Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
rdar_93 said:
Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
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It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
mjh68 said:
It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
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Then I must be confused about what knox really is.
What is "Knox" then?
Hello,
I have a galaxy s4 on 4.4.2 that I rooted using kingroot a while back. It is a US Cellular SCH-R970. Knox has not been tripped. Under device status it says the phone is custom. This means I cannot update to 5.0.1.
My question is, how would I return the phone to official status without 1. Tripping knox, and 2. Keeping all of my data. Also, do you know if I can root with kingroot once I get on 5.0.1.
Baseband is R970TYUFNK1.
Thank You!
Hi,
Flash a proper complete stock firmware via ODIN. Firmware for R970TYUFNK1 is R970TYUFNK1 (itself).
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Hi,
Flash a proper complete stock firmware via ODIN. Firmware for R970TYUFNK1 is R970TYUFNK1 (itself).
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Would you happen to know where I can find a download for that? Also wouldn't flashing that delete everything?
Thanks for all the help!
BeastMode6 said:
Would you happen to know where I can find a download for that? Also wouldn't flashing that delete everything?
Thanks for all the help!
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SamMobile, Samsung Updates, or via SamFirm app. I usually rely on SamFirm.
Edit: As long as Re-partition and NAND Erase All is unticked on Odin, it should be fine.
PS Note: You can install newer firmware over your current firmware via Odin, too.
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krasCGQ said:
SamMobile, Samsung Updates, or via SamFirm app. I usually rely on SamFirm.
PS Note: You can install newer firmware over your current firmware via Odin, too.
Sent from my GT-I9500
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This won't delete anything on my phone though, right?
BeastMode6 said:
This won't delete anything on my phone though, right?
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It would be wise to backup and wipe data before flashing. Otherwise you might encounter problems.
And do not use kingoroot to root lollipop. It used to not work or cause problems. Use cf autoroot method, if your device is supported.
GDReaper said:
It would be wise to backup and wipe data before flashing. Otherwise you might encounter problems.
And do not use kingoroot to root lollipop. It used to not work or cause problems. Use cf autoroot method, if your device is supported.
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Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
BeastMode6 said:
Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
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Yes, but backup is mandatory. About Kingroot, see again previous post.
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Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
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Having knox triggered is just a bunch of crap from Samsung to scare you. Unless you actually use knox. Or if you are afraid from losing your warranty. Which is also crap, because, whilst reading the warranty file, I saw that it won't cover water damage, it won't cover a broken screen and a bunch of other stuff. The only thing it covers is actual hardware failure. And if the phone is new, that's pretty unlikely. Even if it does fail, Samsung has no way to see if knox has been triggered until they change your hardware and are able to boot up the phone. At that point they can't refuse to take it into warranty service anymore.
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Having knox triggered is just a bunch of crap from Samsung to scare you. Unless you actually use knox. Or if you are afraid from losing your warranty. Which is also crap, because, whilst reading the warranty file, I saw that it won't cover water damage, it won't cover a broken screen and a bunch of other stuff. The only thing it covers is actual hardware failure. And if the phone is new, that's pretty unlikely. Even if it does fail, Samsung has no way to see if knox has been triggered until they change your hardware and are able to boot up the phone. At that point they can't refuse to take it into warranty service anymore.
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Wow, that warranty is a load of ****. Also the phone is over a year old so I'd doubt it's still under warranty anyway.
What would you recommend to make a backup? I don't have fast Internet at all (300 kbps down), so I think a local backup would be more efficient.
Thanks for all the help! Have a good Christmas!
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Wow, that warranty is a load of ****. Also the phone is over a year old so I'd doubt it's still under warranty anyway.
What would you recommend to make a backup? I don't have fast Internet at all (300 kbps down), so I think a local backup would be more efficient.
Thanks for all the help! Have a good Christmas!
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Since it is rooted I suggest titanium backup to backup apps and data.
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Since it is rooted I suggest titanium backup to backup apps and data.
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OK I flashed 5.0.1 successfully, all my data carried over. Now I need to root. Do you know where I can download the cf autoroot files for jflteusc or sch-r970 on 5.0.1?
There is a cf auto root thread in the general section. Or you could simply google "cf auto root s4".
Make sure to read the thread.
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There is a cf auto root thread in the general section. Or you could simply google "cf auto root s4".
Make sure to read the thread.
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I got it, now on 5.0.1 rooted. Would it be safe to install cwm via odin?
BeastMode6 said:
I got it, now on 5.0.1 rooted. Would it be safe to install cwm via odin?
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cwm is outdated. Use twrp. And yes, you can install it via odin or other methods.
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cwm is outdated. Use twrp. And yes, you can install it via odin or other methods.
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OK I have that installed now. I'm looking for some new roms and found that there are practically none for the sch-r970. Could I just use roms for the gt i9505 (jflte) or would this not work at all? I'm looking for a 6.0 rom.
JDCTeam AOSP has your device model on the support list. They have Lollipop and Marshmallow.
But you should be able to use other GT-I9505 roms too.
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JDCTeam AOSP has your device model on the support list. They have Lollipop and Marshmallow.
But you should be able to use other GT-I9505 roms too.
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Under their downloads section they have 2 untagged files (doesn't say GSM or cmda) and one GSM (won't work). Will one of the untagged roms work?
BeastMode6 said:
Under their downloads section they have 2 untagged files (doesn't say GSM or cmda) and one GSM (won't work). Will one of the untagged roms work?
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Marshmallow roms have been split into gsm and cmda, due to changes in the radio. You have a cmda device.
The initial build of aosp marshmallow was for both cmda and gms devices. The newest build (the december 24th build) is split into two. Gsm version has been released but cmda version needs more work.
So you will have to download the 6th december build which was unified. Or the lollipop builds.
Lollipop builds have a different thread and a different link.