Have the Canadian s4 (rogers variant) i377m , I was running gummy 1.1 (kitkat) rom and decided to revert to stock after some issues with wifi camera, time not updating, etc.... and someone had requested some files from the variant for dev unbrick stuff. Crappy timing, because when I pulled the stock fw from samsungupdates it was 4.3 . flashed via odin, lost my cwm and root but figured I'd just repeat the auto-root method. Then I saw Knox. Did some research, and saw all the issues everyone is having with custom recoveries not booting. Then I found a work around, however performing said work around would set Knox status to 0x1 and void warranty. Since phone is only 2 weeks old, figured I'd hang tight for another method.
Did some more checking and t turns out, Knox isn't actually installed, nor are the files when I search by name, if I tap it it tells me I can download and install knox (no thanks) and I just haven't bothered. it's just a shortcut. I'm wondering if anyone can answer whether or not I can safely flash with Odin via auto-root method to re-root and install TWRP or CWM recovery? I'd prefer not to lose warranty, but since knox doesn't appear to be actually installed, not sure I have to worry about that.
Here are my particulars:
Rogers i377m
JB 4.3 (official)
im mk6 baseband
kernel is 3.4.0-2142508 with build date of sat nov 16 (believe still custom from rom???)
However, SEL Linux is now enforcing.
Can anyone tell me with above config, which method would be best to use (to obtain root) . I did backup my IEMI with qpst back when I was on 4.2.2 . Could I potentially restore said IEMI with qpst, then re-flash the 4.2.2 fw to get out of this Konx/SEL enforce I'm seeing?
I don't have a ton of experience, but I have been reading as much as I can, and I've flashed my phone from 4.2.2 to all my custom stuff (and a co-workers) and have reverted back to stock with odin. I don't have a usb jig if I soft brick (but I suppose I could make one), and I work in the IT field so I'm faily competent. Need a little direction/confirmation.
azuziel said:
Have the Canadian s4 (rogers variant) i377m , I was running gummy 1.1 (kitkat) rom and decided to revert to stock after some issues with wifi camera, time not updating, etc.... and someone had requested some files from the variant for dev unbrick stuff. Crappy timing, because when I pulled the stock fw from samsungupdates it was 4.3 . flashed via odin, lost my cwm and root but figured I'd just repeat the auto-root method. Then I saw Knox. Did some research, and saw all the issues everyone is having with custom recoveries not booting. Then I found a work around, however performing said work around would set Knox status to 0x1 and void warranty. Since phone is only 2 weeks old, figured I'd hang tight for another method.
Did some more checking and t turns out, Knox isn't actually installed, nor are the files when I search by name, if I tap it it tells me I can download and install knox (no thanks) and I just haven't bothered. it's just a shortcut. I'm wondering if anyone can answer whether or not I can safely flash with Odin via auto-root method to re-root and install TWRP or CWM recovery? I'd prefer not to lose warranty, but since knox doesn't appear to be actually installed, not sure I have to worry about that.
Here are my particulars:
Rogers i377m
JB 4.3 (official)
im mk6 baseband
kernel is 3.4.0-2142508 with build date of sat nov 16 (believe still custom from rom???)
However, SEL Linux is now enforcing.
Can anyone tell me with above config, which method would be best to use (to obtain root) . I did backup my IEMI with qpst back when I was on 4.2.2 . Could I potentially restore said IEMI with qpst, then re-flash the 4.2.2 fw to get out of this Konx/SEL enforce I'm seeing?
I don't have a ton of experience, but I have been reading as much as I can, and I've flashed my phone from 4.2.2 to all my custom stuff (and a co-workers) and have reverted back to stock with odin. I don't have a usb jig if I soft brick (but I suppose I could make one), and I work in the IT field so I'm faily competent. Need a little direction/confirmation.
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I am waiting for an answer to that question too. Got my S4 on friday. Was on 4.2.2 and I let it update to 4.3 without even asking myself "Is that OK?". I've read all that stuff about MF3 (AT&T) and I am wondering if Canadian's MK6 is something like MF3. Forcing us to use other recoveries than CWM or TWRP.
Bleedos said:
I am waiting for an answer to that question too. Got my S4 on friday. Was on 4.2.2 and I let it update to 4.3 without even asking myself "Is that OK?". I've read all that stuff about MF3 (AT&T) and I am wondering if Canadian's MK6 is something like MF3. Forcing us to use other recoveries than CWM or TWRP.
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Yeah I don't particularly care about the Knox counter and warranty, what I do care about is being able to run custom recovery (CWM in particular). I would hate to root, blow the knox counter, then find out can't run custom recoveries anyway. I've read conflicting info on this. I know once knox is installed, that's what can happen. However with our particular rogers variant (at least mine, I flashed with odin to 4.3 tho) Knox isn't installed anywhere, at all, just a shortcut to install if desired. And I don't desire. May have to just bite the bullet and try, but I'll wait a bit longer first to see if someone has a concrete answer on our particular MK6 version.
believe we have our answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47840073
According to post above, SGH-I337M from rogers running 4.3 MK6 can be rooted with CF-AUTO-ROOT
not sure about that bootloaders, but the method shoud work with odin.
Az
I also have the Rogers 4.3 update installed on my I337m, and I only see the Knox shortcut. Does this mean it's not installed? Will it still trip the counter if I root?
You can use that but it will trip the counter. I know because that's what I did. There are apparently other methods floating around that won't trip knox. However I am able to root and run custom recoveries and roms just like before no problems.
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maestro18 said:
I also have the Rogers 4.3 update installed on my I337m, and I only see the Knox shortcut. Does this mean it's not installed? Will it still trip the counter if I root?
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Honestly? I don't know. I have the same. Knox shortcut (deleted). I guess the easiest way to check would be to boot into download mode (VOL down+power+home at start up) and check for
KNOX = 0x0 (warranty good)
KNOX = 0x1 (warranty void)
then just pull the battery and boot back up normally.
htc0101 said:
You can use that but it will trip the counter. I know because that's what I did. There are apparently other methods floating around that won't trip knox. However I am able to root and run custom recoveries and roms just like before no problems.
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Yeah, there is a method of cooking the root into the image before flashing with odin. just google "universal root de la vega" for method. I haven't tried this method yet, but it seems to work well for everyone that has (on i337m) , and wants to keep knox un-tripped. Apparently Kingo can do it too, but i hear adware complaints about that. Not sure I care about knox, as there are other methods of flashing official modem update files via odin (when new updates are released) to obtain the updates without using OTA or kies.
canadian bell user here...
I flashed the 4.3 update and yes it does include knox bootloaders.
Yes, rooting, installing custom recovery or kernel will trip a Knox Warranty Counter, that has not been hacked yet. (word is, that it is software not hardware based).
Did I trip mine? yup.
Do I care? nope.
Bell Smartphone Protection Plan 8$ per month, plus 160$ when getting replacement (beats 600$) covers lost/stolen, water damaged, and smashed phones... and dont care if the bootloader or flash counter is tripped. (kinda hard to tell if the screen is smashed or phone is stolen anyway.)
They ship it to samsung who disassembles the phone, replaces the broken parts, and flashes back to stock with counter reset, tests, and puts it in the refurbished pile. . they never check, care or can do anything about it after a point.
This is how i got my S4, broke my S3 and had the opportunity to get a different replacement model for same price. They shipped my new phone in 3 days, with a return postage sticker for my old, cracked but still functional S3. 0 downtime. 0 hassle.
cf root work
Cf root worked for my 4.3 update on my Canadian rogers. I'm looking for the 4.3 stock rom for rogers now with no luck. Does anyone have any idea
4.3 stock is on Samsungupdates i cant post links yet or i would post it. I used it, and mentioned it in this thread.
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4.3 stock is on Samsungupdates i cant post links yet or i would post it. I used it, and mentioned it in this thread.
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http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SGH-I337M
Yay, I can post links now. Enjoy. Make sure you mouse over region and find rogers variant.
azuziel said:
Yeah I don't particularly care about the Knox counter and warranty, what I do care about is being able to run custom recovery (CWM in particular). I would hate to root, blow the knox counter, then find out can't run custom recoveries anyway. I've read conflicting info on this. I know once knox is installed, that's what can happen. However with our particular rogers variant (at least mine, I flashed with odin to 4.3 tho) Knox isn't installed anywhere, at all, just a shortcut to install if desired. And I don't desire. May have to just bite the bullet and try, but I'll wait a bit longer first to see if someone has a concrete answer on our particular MK6 version.
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Did it the easy way using the Cyanogen Installer (http://beta.download.cyanogenmod.org/install).
Ended with CM10.2 and CWM 6.0.4.4
Then I found this link for flashable zips for CWM and TWRP.
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=8421
Got this link from there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43216990&postcount=3
Make sure you thank iB4STiD
I flashed CWM Touch 6.0.4.4
I was running the stock AMG1 which showed KNOX. I was told that if I can flash a custom recovery such as TWRP or CMR, that my phone is not locked. So I flashed AMDJ to see. I also flashed TWRP with no issues. I then installed Gummy version:1.1-11-21-13-UNOFFICIAL. I found KNOX but was able to remove it using Titanium Backup. Apparently it was not activated? I am now on Android 4.4, Baseband I337MVLUAMDJ, Kernel Version [email protected] #1 Thu Nov 21,2013, Gummy Version 1.1-11-21-13-UNOFFICIAL, Build Date Thu Nov 21, 2013, Build Number KRT16S, SELinux Status Permissive. I am using the SGH-I337M from BELL.
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I would like to install AWS Bands for T-Mobile on my BELL I337M. I am currently running Gummy 1.1 on version 4.4. I was told that I can't install T-Mobile AWS bands without messing up my IMEI etc. if I am not on a stock ROM. Can anyone confirm or deny this? My phone runs painfully slow on T-Mobile (Edge 2G). Any information would be much appreciated.
Fido s4 user here. I updated to 4.3, used auto root, and don't care about tripping counter. But since doing all that (2 weeks ago), I've tried two custom roms, and they don't get past boot screen after installation. I get this thing about seandroid and kernel, recovery. Not sure what to do about that. :-\
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Miyamato said:
Fido s4 user here. I updated to 4.3, used auto root, and don't care about tripping counter. But since doing all that (2 weeks ago), I've tried two custom roms, and they don't get past boot screen after installation. I get this thing about seandroid and kernel, recovery. Not sure what to do about that. :-\
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Try Flash the proper kernel. Do a factory reset via cwm after flashing as well to remove the old user data.
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azuziel said:
Try Flash the proper kernel. Do a factory reset via cwm after flashing as well to remove the old user data.
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What kernel are you talking about? Do you have a link by any chance?
so since updating to 4.3 via OTA, then rooting phone (auto root). If i wanted to unroot the phone (SELinux is enforcing), I shouldn't have any problem unrooting it via Odin 1.85 with fido firmware for 4.3, correct?
Targor_Avelany said:
What kernel are you talking about? Do you have a link by any chance?
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If having kernel issues then i find easiest way to remedy is to flash a stock firmware. The img file contains the stock kernel. This will get you back to a working state, then use saferoot or kingo to reroot, goo manager for twrp or cwm installer for custom recovey, and off you go.
I generally avoid roms that don't include the proper kernel. Gummy rom (kitkat) includes proper kernel and is the most stable non stock fw ive run, personally.
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so since updating to 4.3 via OTA, then rooting phone (auto root). If i wanted to unroot the phone (SELinux is enforcing), I shouldn't have any problem unrooting it via Odin 1.85 with fido firmware for 4.3, correct?
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Selinux is enforced on 4.3 yes. There are methods for putting into permissive, but isnt really necessary as most apps have been updated to run on 4.3.
Regarind unroot via flashing stock, correct. Stock will flash stock recovery, stock kernel and os, and yes it removes root. Like any flash, be sure to wipe old sys/user data via a factory reset after flashinf stock if you boot loop (soft brick).
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I just picked up an S4 that has not been upgraded to 4.3 and Knox, this phone will be for my wife and I will root it and it needs wireless/wifi tether. I would like for her to be on the latest 4.3 ROM with root and that is all.
So, which way should I upgrade?
OTA to 4.3 and have a knox bootloader and then root the phone using CFautoroot? (not sure if this method sticks from what I have read)
Root the 4.2.2 and keep bootloader same, flash recovery (which one?) and then flash stock 4.3 rom? (I am not sure how to do this yet)?
I am coming from a Sprint SII (I have a Nexus 5 now though) so I am familiar with using Odin and flashing but that phone had the kernel and recovery in one and this phone has them separate.
Thanks and any tips would be appreciated, I will be going over this forum tonight when I get home from work but of course would like some immediate help/info, which is why I am asking before searching.
Thanks
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I just picked up an S4 that has not been upgraded to 4.3 and Knox, this phone will be for my wife and I will root it and it needs wireless/wifi tether. I would like for her to be on the latest 4.3 ROM with root and that is all.
So, which way should I upgrade?
OTA to 4.3 and have a knox bootloader and then root the phone using CFautoroot? (not sure if this method sticks from what I have read)
Root the 4.2.2 and keep bootloader same, flash recovery (which one?) and then flash stock 4.3 rom? (I am not sure how to do this yet)?
I am coming from a Sprint SII (I have a Nexus 5 now though) so I am familiar with using Odin and flashing but that phone had the kernel and recovery in one and this phone has them separate.
Thanks and any tips would be appreciated, I will be going over this forum tonight when I get home from work but of course would like some immediate help/info, which is why I am asking before searching.
Thanks
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Personally, I never perform upgrades via OTA. Root the device if you haven't already,
I recommend you flash the firmware/modem-only--this will keep from having the bootloader locked with knox. You can get it from Unknownforce here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42954144.
Install the latest version of TWRP then install a custom ROM. I highly recommend Sacs ROM
Hi All,
Am using an i337M S4 from Rogers here in Canada and was wondering if it was possible to use ODIN and try out the new leaked 4.4 firmware. Is rooting required to achieve this?
rsarwar said:
Hi All,
Am using an i337M S4 from Rogers here in Canada and was wondering if it was possible to use ODIN and try out the new leaked 4.4 firmware. Is rooting required to achieve this?
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First you must be certain the leak is for i337m model becuase there is the international version and the US version which are both different from the model you have (I have the same but Telus). Now as far as the files, if they are in .tar format then you can flash via Odin, if thet are .zip then you need a custom recovery to flash them. I know for certain you need to root to go the custom recovery route, I think you need to be rooted to flash they system files in Odin also (which if it is a stock rom you are flashing would loose root following the flash). Depending of the root method you choose be aware also that you may trip the Knox counter also, definately if you install a custom recovery. There a number of 4.4 roms for the i337m already that are not stock and are rooted, you may want to look at these also. Most importantly... before you attempt anything read...read ... read... there are pity falls you can end up in if you don't pay close attention......
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First you must be certain the leak is for i337m model becuase there is the international version and the US version which are both different from the model you have (I have the same but Telus). Now as far as the files, if they are in .tar format then you can flash via Odin, if thet are .zip then you need a custom recovery to flash them. I know for certain you need to root to go the custom recovery route, I think you need to be rooted to flash they system files in Odin also (which if it is a stock rom you are flashing would loose root following the flash). Depending of the root method you choose be aware also that you may trip the Knox counter also, definately if you install a custom recovery. There a number of 4.4 roms for the i337m already that are not stock and are rooted, you may want to look at these also. Most importantly... before you attempt anything read...read ... read... there are pity falls you can end up in if you don't pay close attention......
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Thanks for the reply .. actually I had a S2 before which was rooted and I used many different ROMs on it. I did root the S4 once as well but then lost it when I did the 4.3 update. Since then I never tried to re-root, is there an easy way too root right now for the i337M with 4.3?
If you are on stock unrooted 4.3 you should get official 4.4 update soon.
Also, questions go in the qna section not the development section
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RK said:
If you are on stock unrooted 4.3 you should get official 4.4 update soon.
Also, questions go in the qna section not the development section
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If you wait for the update you will likely be waiting longer for a root solution... if you want to root the phone, look up chainfire's CF-auto root for i337m
I've been trying to figure this out for the last day, with no success.
I've got a rooted Note 3 N9005 (MJ7) stock. this is a 4.3 Rom. Knox status is0x0 (didn't trip it when I've rooted it ages ago).
I had enough of sammy rom, and I want to play with some of the new 4.4.4 custom roms.
I'm totally and utterly lost regarding what's tripping knox, and what are the needed steps in order to achieve that.
From what I understand, flashing TWRP (or any other custom recovery) will trip knox. I'm fine with that.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to first upgrade my 4.3 to an official 4.4.2, and what / if is all the lock/unlock bootloader which seems to differ between versions (4.3 and 4.4). There also seem to be different versions of TWRP depending on if you're on 4.3 or 4.4?
Can I simply flash TWRP on my rooted 4.3, backup, flash new shinny 4.4.4 rom, and be happy ? Will that keep the root ?
Otherwise, do i need to upgrade to official 4.4.2 version first? will that lose root and I'll have to reroot the new version, and then flash TWRP and then flash 4.4.4 roms?
Any kind of help (or point me to an article that discusses it, even though I didn't find any, and i've searched) will be highly appreciated.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
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I've been trying to figure this out for the last day, with no success.
I've got a rooted Note 3 N9005 (MJ7) stock. this is a 4.3 Rom. Knox status is0x0 (didn't trip it when I've rooted it ages ago).
I had enough of sammy rom, and I want to play with some of the new 4.4.4 custom roms.
I'm totally and utterly lost regarding what's tripping knox, and what are the needed steps in order to achieve that.
From what I understand, flashing TWRP (or any other custom recovery) will trip knox. I'm fine with that.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to first upgrade my 4.3 to an official 4.4.2, and what / if is all the lock/unlock bootloader which seems to differ between versions (4.3 and 4.4). There also seem to be different versions of TWRP depending on if you're on 4.3 or 4.4?
Can I simply flash TWRP on my rooted 4.3, backup, flash new shinny 4.4.4 rom, and be happy ? Will that keep the root ?
Otherwise, do i need to upgrade to official 4.4.2 version first? will that lose root and I'll have to reroot the new version, and then flash TWRP and then flash 4.4.4 roms?
Any kind of help (or point me to an article that discusses it, even though I didn't find any, and i've searched) will be highly appreciated.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
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If you aren't concerned about KNOX, upgrade to a 4.4 ROM (Official) via ODIN which will upgrade the bootloader, then once that's all done, flash TWRP for 4.4 then download your ROMs and flash via TWRP as normal.
radicalisto said:
If you aren't concerned about KNOX, upgrade to a 4.4 ROM (Official) via ODIN which will upgrade the bootloader, then once that's all done, flash TWRP for 4.4 then download your ROMs and flash via TWRP as normal.
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Not concerned any more ...
Out of curiosity, what exactly kills the root? flashing a rom doesn't. upgrading via odin ? I'm assuming it has nothing to do with the system/cache, since each flash usually wipes them, so, where does it live?
Cheers
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Not concerned any more ...
Out of curiosity, what exactly kills the root? flashing a rom doesn't. upgrading via odin ? I'm assuming it has nothing to do with the system/cache, since each flash usually wipes them, so, where does it live?
Cheers
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Reflashing the ROM back to stock is what kills root. It's easy to re-root again once you've tripped KNOX anyways.
But tbh, once you install a custom recovery after you've upgraded your boot loader, you won't need to root. It isn't required for custom recovery
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EDIT: Have you used ODIN to flash stock images before? If not, have a read around, it's pretty straight forward though.
radicalisto said:
Reflashing the ROM back to stock is what kills root. It's easy to re-root again once you've tripped KNOX anyways.
But tbh, once you install a custom recovery after you've upgraded your boot loader, you won't need to root. It isn't required for custom recovery
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EDIT: Have you used ODIN to flash stock images before? If not, have a read around, it's pretty straight forward though.
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I see ... so -> flash stock (kills root) -> flash TWRP (trips knox) -> flash custom rom without worrying about root ? (wouldn't i need it for titanium backup ,or do custom roms come with SU preinstalled?)
Yep, used odin. file on comp, download mode, couple of ticks, clicky clicky, happiness ensues ...
Yeah you're pretty much spot on. Yeah most ROMs are pre-rooted and if they aren't you can just flash superSU via your recovery. But you should be good to go and know what you're doing by the sounds of it.
Enjoy flashing them ROMs and make an efs backup and store off the device too. There's an adb script for it here (forget where but its here, development thread I think) don't use any apps from the play store as they are notorious for bricking Samsung devices.
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radicalisto said:
Yeah you're pretty much spot on. Yeah most ROMs are pre-rooted and if they aren't you can just flash superSU via your recovery. But you should be good to go and know what you're doing by the sounds of it.
Enjoy flashing them ROMs and make an efs backup and store off the device too. There's an adb script for it here (forget where but its here, development thread I think) don't use any apps from the play store as they are notorious for bricking Samsung devices.
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lol ...notorious for bricking samsung devices ... i like it ...
i ran one already (zipped a 6MB and a 14.5MB image and tar into a 300kb zip), and been told you can do that from inside TWRP as well ...
I'll take a deep breath, and start downloading the official image and roms ...
I'll update if i'll get to the other side
out of curiosity ... does it matter which official 4.4.2 image i'm flashing ? (i'm getting the NZ one ...but i assume they should all be similar, and / or that it doesn't matter since i'll be flashing something else on it anyways, right ?
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out of curiosity ... does it matter which official 4.4.2 image i'm flashing ? (i'm getting the NZ one ...but i assume they should all be similar, and / or that it doesn't matter since i'll be flashing something else on it anyways, right ?
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Yeah try and keep to the country your device is from, otherwise you have to find the right PIT file, and the partitions vary etc
radicalisto said:
Yeah try and keep to the country your device is from, otherwise you have to find the right PIT file, and the partitions vary etc
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Rubbish. ..I don't recall seeing an australian one... I'll have another look, otherwise ill look into the pit thingy. Thanks.
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
Dravekx said:
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
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I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
rdar_93 said:
I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
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That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Copied from another post I had.
I don't know much about the device which is why I'm trying to find out.
Dravekx said:
That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
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I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
rdar_93 said:
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
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Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
rdar_93 said:
I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
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Dravekx said:
Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
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Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
rdar_93 said:
Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
rdar_93 said:
Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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The kernel can't be changed...although it can be "tuned" if you have root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58813428
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
BladeRunner said:
It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
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Thanks man, I was supposed to update this thread saying that I got through with the proper procedure for installing Jasmine Rom
Although I was running Eclipse before, and I wanted to try going back to stock but it just got stuck on the Verizon splash screen
I'm thinking it's because I had the NC2 kernel active when I should have gone back to the NC4 kernel
I looked for a NC4 kernel to flash but I only saw the modems and tar files, so not knowing if those were the same as kernels I decided to just try Jasmine. So far, I like it.
I have crazy battery drain though. I think it's because I'm running it in Slot 1
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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Safestrap does not trip knox.
mjh68 said:
Safestrap does not trip knox.
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Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
rdar_93 said:
Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
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It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
mjh68 said:
It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
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Then I must be confused about what knox really is.
What is "Knox" then?
I have a Galaxy S5 SM-G900V Version 5.0 I am wondering if it is possible to root it any help would be greatly appreciated
If you read the post above yours, or any of the posts in this forum, you will probably figure out how to root your device. Pro tip!
I have read them and have tried several different ways but I must be missing something because when I flash my device it keeps going into boot recovery and I cant get it to go any further
bobyluvjr said:
I have read them and have tried several different ways but I must be missing something because when I flash my device it keeps going into boot recovery and I cant get it to go any further
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You soft bricked it. I recommend using Kies 3 to repair and initialize the phone again to stock, unless you made a nandroid backup. Then, you'll have to flash a NK2 retail stock, since no one has been able to find a method to root AO8 Lollipop 5.0 without tripping knox. If you don't mind tripping knox, which voids your warranty.
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You soft bricked it. I recommend using Kies 3 to repair and initialize the phone again to stock, unless you made a nandroid backup. Then, you'll have to flash a NK2 retail stock, since no one has been able to find a method to root AO8 Lollipop 5.0 without tripping knox. If you don't mind tripping knox, which voids your warranty.
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you are wrong lmao.. we have root for the g900v (he must be having user errors if he cant get it to work) but there is NO process for the g900v that will trip Knox at all because we cant touch the BL due to it being locked.. Knox has nothing to do with anything at this point. His warranty is still good but yes, his phone is soft bricked if he cant boot up
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bobyluvjr said:
I have a Galaxy S5 SM-G900V Version 5.0 I am wondering if it is possible to root it any help would be greatly appreciated
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Have you tried finding a full ncg tar file (full meaning it includes the kernel), Odin that to put you on ncg. Download towelroot and install it. Run towelroot and that should root you. Download latest safestrap and install it. Then download any other the rooted lollipop roms and the lollipop kernel(kernel will be downloaded on computer) . Install it via safestrap, boot directly into download mode and Odin the lollipop kernel. Reboot. Should be rooted lollipop and good to.
New too rooting
ok I managed to figure this all out i think I got it to restore back to 5.0 using odin by flashing the stock files I found on the forums then I found another tutorial on rooting and followed it and managed to figure it out so now I am running
Android Version
4.4.4
Baseband Version
G900VVRU1ANHA
Kernel Version
3.4.0
[email protected]#1
Build Number
KTU84P.G900VVRU1ANHA
I don't know if that means any thing to you guys but my next task is to find a rom that ultimately will get rid of allot of the boat from verizon and ideally I would like to have the multi user feature but I am not sure that is availible for android 4.4.4
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you are wrong lmao.. we have root for the g900v (he must be having user errors if he cant get it to work) but there is NO process for the g900v that will trip Knox at all because we cant touch the BL due to it being locked.. Knox has nothing to do with anything at this point. His warranty is still good but yes, his phone is soft bricked if he cant boot up
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I'm new to the locked bootloader, so I stand corrected on that point. You taught me something, and I got a laugh out of you.