Hi
some Q abut the same issue : bloatware
1. the more apps installed on my phone = the more memory is consume ? the faster my battery drains ?
2. if i root my S4 and then delete all unwanted apps came with it, both Samsung's and cellular provider's, do i risk stability of the S4 by that ?
3. regarding the former question, if i go to app manager and disable apps i do not like or use, do i risk stability of the S4 by that ?
p.s. i do not like to root my S4 at this time... seems unnecessary to me
Thanks for helping
ilanifer said:
Hi
some Q abut the same issue : bloatware
1. the more apps installed on my phone = the more memory is consume ? the faster my battery drains ?
2. if i root my S4 and then delete all unwanted apps came with it, both Samsung's and cellular provider's, do i risk stability of the S4 by that ?
3. regarding the former question, if i go to app manager and disable apps i do not like or use, do i risk stability of the S4 by that ?
p.s. i do not like to root my S4 at this time... seems unnecessary to me
Thanks for helping
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1. Depends on what app u installed. Some will autostartup and run in the background. Some won't. You can use Greenify (requires root) to hibernate the apps.
2. If you're talking about bloatwares, then no stability wont be affected. If you're talking about some system apps like the default Samsung Music etc, then yes it might affect stability.
3. I use TitaniumBackup to freeze or uninstall apps. Becareful of what you freeze. Freezing certain system apps will disable certain features and might cause stability issue.
There are many ways you can deal with bloatware.
1. First and fastest is to simply flash a clean efficient new ROM like CM.
If u wana keep the Samsung looks and functionality the u need to stick with stock, in this case u need root and
2. u can manualy uninstall the system apps u dont want or need
3. THe last and best way imo is to use a script like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307355 that will clean a lot of bloatware apps without risking your ROM stability
Hey folks!
TrulyClean is a "any rom" script that removes A LOT of crap-apps (98+ apps removed) and other stuff on the phone.
Script will remove about 600mb since version 1.3 (Counted by removing from stock firmware.)
The purpose is to give you a clean start with no extras, much like the Nexus series experience but with the Samsung core intact.
All bloatware apps will be removed running the default script. I even count apps like S Voice and Samsung Hub as unnecessary apps.
Neither do I use Earth or Google+ and don't like these apps to be forced upon me as system apps when they are so easy to install from Play store!
It might be illusion but... I found my phone booting faster and running snappier with after applying this script.
Also, I don't have to cry anymore while checking the apps in the /system folder.
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Its Very Easy....
1) Use Greenify (We All know About it)
Second Method Is Below.
>Go To
A)Settings
B)Apps
C)Click Any Apps And Select Any Pre Installed App
(Ex.. Google Play Games or Any other app which you Use Rarely)
Now click Disable To Disable It...
Tadaaa its Done.. Now Disable what u want And Save More Battry And Ram.
You Can Also Enable It. :beer:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
Using App Quarantine myself to disable unwanted apps.
If you are rooted you can even freeze apps that usually can not be frozen.
After a restart the apps remain frozen.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ramdroid.appquarantine
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Itz For NoN Rooted User (Noob)
Sent from my XT1033
maurocds said:
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
bookworth said:
No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
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so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You can not disable critical system apps. Just try and you will see.
You can disable apps same way from Android too, it is feature.
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what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
iluvatrix said:
what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
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Then you kill play and bunch of other features, not a good idea.
Sent from my XT1032 using Tapatalk
was just using GSF as a quick example
but back to my original question is it better to enable ALL apps before taking OTA to avoid possible failure?
or will disabled apps still be "seen" during OTA updating?
i have disabled most Motorola apps that can be disabled are they considered critical when updating thru Motorola OTA?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You don't delete anything. You just tell the system not to start or use those apps. And as a worst case scenario, if you screw up something so bad that you can't even use the phone (but by default you cannot disable really critical apps without root and 3rd party software), a factory reset will solve it.
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
Becareful with system applications!
I agree with the previous post...don't remove system applications unless you know it's not going to be linked to anything of use to you, and even then I would do a backup just in-case...having a broken installation of android simply due to having deleted some system app in an attempt to save a few MB of RAM would be...unfortunate.
juliatan said:
Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
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lol really? you better use an iphone
i remove system apps of all my cell phone, and guess what, they work perfect, never had issues
and if i did someday i don't care, why? because you are root, you can recover roms, flash, upgrade, etc
and yes, i give advice to people who bricked their phones and give guides and methods of doing it, because bricking phones and recovering them it part of learning
Long story short: Coming close to insanity from all notifications (but not wanting to miss e-mail and sms/whatsapp, I rooted my G900FXXU1ANG2 in order to use NotifyClean.
I, hence, also installed the Xposed framework. Subsequently, installed NoBloat and backed up and deleted a number of System apps.
Much to my demise, however, one of my favorite apps, S Health now malfunctions popping an "Unfortunately, S HealthService has stopped".
I have restored just about everything I have had backed up and deleted except for fonts, weather stuff and print services.
Still can't get the app back to it's original state. The best I have managed to achieve is to have the app run but unable to save my (profile) data (which renders the app rather useless).
I have also tried setting the app back to its original state (uninstall updates + force stop) and updating it again from Samsung.
Alas, no dice.
Can anyone help?
ST
http://gs5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/f...hes-when-using-xposed-your-galaxy-s5-0157344/
It's due to an incompatibility with Xposed framework. Search xda forum and you will find the work around solution (don't remember where I read it). But there is a solution!
So I bought a Galaxy Tab 4 7 inch a few weeks ago and love it (minus a few issues here and there of course) so of course the inner mod freak inside me (thanks to the XDA community) decided to achieve root access for my device.
So far I say this with mixed emotions I am pretty happy with the store bought stock firmware with root but the thing that bugs me is that I cannot remove any apps with Root Uninstaller for example I want to get rid of chrome. My problem is when I start up Root Uninstaller it achieves root permissions and loads up my list of apps. So of course since I have root permission and find Chrome in my list I click on it to try to uninstall but Root Uninstaller locks up. I'll be clear about this bit of info. Only the app locks up. My soft buttons still work and I can drop down my notification bar and I can also swap between apps. So after clicking a few times to see if it didn't register my click it comes up with a notice saying Root Uninstaller isn't responding and asks if I would like to wait or close the program. The notice will pop up 3 times before finally forcing the app to close. Now I will also be clear about this too it does not "force close" it just closes with no warning at all. I understand the easy answer might be to flash a debloated deodexed custom rom with stock apps stripped from the rom itself but I was hoping to avoid downloading a huge rom package as my only form of downloading is while I am at work. Please anyone who could drop any information on me would be much appreciated.
sherlockpwnz said:
So I bought a Galaxy Tab 4 7 inch a few weeks ago and love it (minus a few issues here and there of course) so of course the inner mod freak inside me (thanks to the XDA community) decided to achieve root access for my device.
So far I say this with mixed emotions I am pretty happy with the store bought stock firmware with root but the thing that bugs me is that I cannot remove any apps with Root Uninstaller for example I want to get rid of chrome. My problem is when I start up Root Uninstaller it achieves root permissions and loads up my list of apps. So of course since I have root permission and find Chrome in my list I click on it to try to uninstall but Root Uninstaller locks up. I'll be clear about this bit of info. Only the app locks up. My soft buttons still work and I can drop down my notification bar and I can also swap between apps. So after clicking a few times to see if it didn't register my click it comes up with a notice saying Root Uninstaller isn't responding and asks if I would like to wait or close the program. The notice will pop up 3 times before finally forcing the app to close. Now I will also be clear about this too it does not "force close" it just closes with no warning at all. I understand the easy answer might be to flash a debloated deodexed custom rom with stock apps stripped from the rom itself but I was hoping to avoid downloading a huge rom package as my only form of downloading is while I am at work. Please anyone who could drop any information on me would be much appreciated.
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Titanium Backup can uninstall system apps, it's what I used to debloat when my devices didn't have any custom roms available yet
Wow I feel like a dummy I didn't even think about that haha. I use titanium backup too and didn't even know lol. Just to be safe I backed it up and uninstalled it. Thank you for the help in such a speedy fashion!
can you freeze all the streaming apps (netflix e.t.c) or delete them via root? i don't need them and all they do is take up space with the limited memory it has already.
I don't believe you even need root for this, you can just go to the Android settings->apps menu, find each app you don't want and press disable.
This was one of the first things I did when I switched on my shield as I will never use Plex and cluttered menu entries annoy me!
dont delete most system/bloatware
Hi, I have the NSTV for almost a month & I crashed it the first day when I gain root, flashed TWRP, ect....so how did it crash?
Well after succesfully restarting the system & setting it up again! I started to delete the bloatware & I deleted most of the apps that I didn't want..until I installed my favorite keyboard app which takes less space & the first thing I did was delete the leanback keyboard......My NSTV was NOT happy as soon as I did that....intents of dialog messages flooded the screen & crashed it
so the next thing I did was boot into bootlooder & flash a recovery.zip with all the images..except stock recovery...I kept TWRP...after that I set my system back up installed link2sd again to delete the other bloatware, but this time I disabled leanback keyboard in favor of the other app....can you guess what happen next?
YES....it crashed again....so I decided to delete all the bloatware that I didn't want & kept leanback keyboard.
Now I decided to use a bluetooth keyboard from now on...but I wish the leanback keyboard will stop popping up even though im using an external keyboard...
Xstar410 said:
Hi, I have the NSTV for almost a month & I crashed it the first day when I gain root, flashed TWRP, ect....so how did it crash?
Well after succesfully restarting the system & setting it up again! I started to delete the bloatware & I deleted most of the apps that I didn't want..until I installed my favorite keyboard app which takes less space & the first thing I did was delete the leanback keyboard......My NSTV was NOT happy as soon as I did that....intents of dialog messages flooded the screen & crashed it
so the next thing I did was boot into bootlooder & flash a recovery.zip with all the images..except stock recovery...I kept TWRP...after that I set my system back up installed link2sd again to delete the other bloatware, but this time I disabled leanback keyboard in favor of the other app....can you guess what happen next?
YES....it crashed again....so I decided to delete all the bloatware that I didn't want & kept leanback keyboard.
Now I decided to use a bluetooth keyboard from now on...but I wish the leanback keyboard will stop popping up even though im using an external keyboard...
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that is highly annoying, so even though you have a 3rd party keyboard app installed the leanback keyboard popes up aswell? i use swift keyboard and usb keyborad additionally.
HUYI said:
can you freeze all the streaming apps (netflix e.t.c) or delete them via root? i don't need them and all they do is take up space with the limited memory it has already.
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You can freeze the system apps such as all the bloatware you don't want without root, but to get rid of the apps permanentally you WILL need root...also my system stop crashing after installing some xposed modules that deal with input type....but anyway as long as you don't touch any actual system related apps you will be okay.