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News reports today state that Lenovo is buying Motorola Mobility from Google for about $3B. Any thoughts on this?
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Sad
Another great American firm gets broken apart and sold to a foreign company.
Very concerned about what the future holds for the firm, and all the recently-hired guys in the US...
My initial reaction is not positive. I've been a fan of moto for a long time, and have owned many moto devices.
They're selling it at a huge loss, but they are retaining the patents, and licensing them to Lenovo, so its WORTH a whole lot less too.
I have been admiring the Moto X, but my HD Maxx is good enough that I can't justify replacing it. So I've been somewhat planning on picking up whatever its successor would be. We'll see now.
Lenovo to Acquire Motorola Mobility from Google
I think, as a Motorola phone owner, that our upgrade propspects not being a part of Google anymore have been vastly reduced, sadly. :crying: Here´s the pertinent part of the announcement press release:
Lenovo to Acquire Motorola Mobility from Google
Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, and Mountain View, California – January 29, 2014: Lenovo (HKSE: 992) (ADR: LNVGY) and Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) today have entered into a definitive agreement under which Lenovo plans to acquire the Motorola Mobility smartphone business. With a strong PC business and a fast-growing smartphone business, this agreement will significantly strengthen Lenovo’s position in the smartphone market. In addition, Lenovo will gain a strong market presence in North America and Latin America, as well as a foothold in Western Europe, to complement its strong, fast-growing smartphone business in emerging markets around the world.
The purchase price is approximately US$2.91 billion (subject to certain adjustments), including US$1.41 billion paid at close, comprised of US$660 million in cash and US$750 million in Lenovo ordinary shares (subject to a share cap/floor). The remaining US$1.5 billion will be paid in the form of a three-year promissory note.
Lenovo, which in 2005 acquired IBM’s PC business and its legendary PC brand, will now acquire world-renowned Motorola Mobility, including the MOTOROLA brand and Motorola Mobility's portfolio of innovative smartphones like the Moto X and Moto G and the DROID™ Ultra series. In addition to current products, Lenovo will take ownership of the future Motorola Mobility product roadmap.
Google will maintain ownership of the vast majority of the Motorola Mobility patent portfolio, including current patent applications and invention disclosures. As part of its ongoing relationship with Google, Lenovo will receive a license to this rich portfolio of patents and other intellectual property. Additionally Lenovo will receive over 2,000 patent assets, as well as the Motorola Mobility brand and trademark portfolio.
Motorola Mobility enjoys outstanding brand awareness around the world, and is currently the #3 Android smartphone manufacturer in the U.S. and #3 manufacturer overall in Latin America.
“The acquisition of such an iconic brand, innovative product portfolio and incredibly talented global team will immediately make Lenovo a strong global competitor in smartphones. We will immediately have the opportunity to become a strong global player in the fast-growing mobile space,” said Yang Yuanqing, chairman and CEO of Lenovo. “We are confident that we can bring together the best of both companies to deliver products customers will love and a strong, growing business. Lenovo has a proven track record of successfully embracing and strengthening great brands – as we did with IBM’s Think brand – and smoothly and efficiently integrating companies around-the-world. I am confident we will be successful with this process, and that our companies will not only maintain our current momentum in the market, but also build a strong foundation for the future.”
“Lenovo has the expertise and track record to scale Motorola Mobility into a major player within the Android ecosystem. This move will enable Google to devote our energy to driving innovation across the Android ecosystem, for the benefit of smartphone users everywhere,” said Larry Page, CEO, Google.
“As part of Lenovo, Motorola Mobility will have a rapid path to achieving our goal of reaching the next 100 million people with the mobile Internet. With the recent launches of Moto X and Moto G, we have tremendous momentum right now and Lenovo’s hardware expertise and global reach will only help to accelerate this,” said Dennis Woodside, CEO, Motorola Mobility.
The transaction is subject to the satisfaction of regulatory requirements, customary closing conditions and any other needed approvals.
Moto fan here. Audio quality. I try out an Htc or Samy and the sound is lacking.
Now they will all be alike.
I guess it'll be Nexus for me, from here on out.
I welcome this. Look at google motorola marriage, just 2 disabled childs. Moto X and Moto G. Nothing more. With the global reach of lenovo, motorola can find place in its old markets and create a demand for new various models if they do it right.
Semseddin said:
I welcome this. Look at google motorola marriage, just 2 disabled childs. Moto X and Moto G. Nothing more. With the global reach of lenovo, motorola can find place in its old markets and create a demand for new various models if they do it right.
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I am thinking it is better to have less devices on market, and more software upgrades for them, than many various models with lack of support.
PS: I'm sorry for my English.
uze said:
I am thinking it is better to have less devices on market, and more software upgrades for them, than many various models with lack of support.
PS: I'm sorry for my English.
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It was Google's excuse for not being able to release many devices. Samsung releases tons of devices for every segment and they keep them updated, maybe not lightning fast updates but fast enough for everyone. I personally waited for a quadcore FHD screen beast from motorola, all they could offer was Moto X. Funny part was that they tried to sell it within the same price range with quads, full hd phones.
My greatest concern about this sale is that with the Moto X and Moto G coming out and source being released for it, we'd (RAZR HD) eventually see a 3.4 kernel and native 4.4 support based on this source and maybe I'm being naive but that seems further and further away now with this news.
Motorola Canada page says my phone is getting KK officially but I haven't seen anything so far nor found any source.
Semseddin said:
It was Google's excuse for not being able to release many devices. Samsung releases tons of devices for every segment and they keep them updated, maybe not lightning fast updates but fast enough for everyone. I personally waited for a quadcore FHD screen beast from motorola, all they could offer was Moto X. Funny part was that they tried to sell it within the same price range with quads, full hd phones.
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You clearly have never used a Moto X. Its smoother than some quad core phones out there. In fact, I'm going to go as far as saying that Motorola proved specs aren't everything in an Android phone, as long as you can optimize the software right. I'm not going to argue about screen size because for me I don't notice a difference in resolution unless its a tablet or something, but the screen on the X (and my Maxx HD, for that matter) is better quality than my girl's S4. So while you let hype build up inside you and let you down hard when they released the X, people who knew to take leaks with a grain of salt were ecstatic the phone performed the way it did and had the ability to customize colors and software options as well.
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cmajpwc said:
You clearly have never used a Moto X. Its smoother than some quad core phones out there. In fact, I'm going to go as far as saying that Motorola proved specs aren't everything in an Android phone, as long as you can optimize the software right. I'm not going to argue about screen size because for me I don't notice a difference in resolution unless its a tablet or something, but the screen on the X (and my Maxx HD, for that matter) is better quality than my girl's S4. So while you let hype build up inside you and let you down hard when they released the X, people who knew to take leaks with a grain of salt were ecstatic the phone performed the way it did and had the ability to customize colors and software options as well.
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Don't need an argument over this. Just chill down, it's just a phone. You don't need to defend just because you got one. Everybody have their own opinion. So, you can be happy with your Moto X. I never thought of buying one because it was overpriced compared to other brand flagships being a dualcore/hd device. Moto X is a great phone it does what it does but it's just not in the same league with other Quad / FHD solutions with its mediocre dual/hd setup. No matter how good it was optimised by google, it never has to carry the weight of Full HD pixels with its weaker dualcore cpu. I got my first dualcore from motorola back in 2011 Atrix 4G(a true milestone device), then XT910 which was also dualcore. So i just kept waiting for a quadcore from new motorola-google. And yet they didn't release a phone which is better or faster than competing companies. It's 2014 and i hope Lenovo will bring motorola to a new competing athmosphere to catch up with the tech race.
and if we are to consume as consumers,i want to consume the best and Moto X wasn't the best :good:
i hope some we see Motorola same before
i ♥ motorola forever
Hello Moto
cmajpwc said:
You clearly have never used a Moto X. Its smoother than some quad core phones out there. In fact, I'm going to go as far as saying that Motorola proved specs aren't everything in an Android phone, as long as you can optimize the software right. I'm not going to argue about screen size because for me I don't notice a difference in resolution unless its a tablet or something, but the screen on the X (and my Maxx HD, for that matter) is better quality than my girl's S4. So while you let hype build up inside you and let you down hard when they released the X, people who knew to take leaks with a grain of salt were ecstatic the phone performed the way it did and had the ability to customize colors and software options as well.
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Agree. X phones are a great sucess! But why the iphonish no SD card(btw)?
HTC & SAMMY great computers, poor phones.
This might be unreasonable due to fear, but do you think this will impede RAZR HD/M/Maxx owners' incoming 4.4 update?
No I think we will still see our update. The changes imposed by lenovo will take a while yet to be seen.
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Semseddin said:
I welcome this. Look at google motorola marriage, just 2 disabled childs. Moto X and Moto G. Nothing more. With the global reach of lenovo, motorola can find place in its old markets and create a demand for new various models if they do it right.
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Please list how they are disabled?
No sd card is really debatable with the advent of usb-otg.
Lenovo bought Motorola is a good sign for great marketing than the tricky Google. We should see sdcard,quadcore (no more dualcore krait),FullHD screen,great camera software in a Motorola phone soon. My friend has just bought a Lenovo P780. It's a great device with great build quality,vivid screen and a monster battery (4000 mah).
Punit Soni
Works at Motorola Mobility (Google) (SW VP)
- 30/1/2014
"Loads of changes...
My team is committed to delighting Moto users and working hard on the next slew of updates/features that need to roll out."
His google+ profile
as long as they dump a kernel for 4.4.2 on the xt926 dev, well see better custom ROMs.
we just need to wait for qualcomm to update the drivers/binaries/blobs of the MSM8960; its not just the RAZR's but the SGS3, Xperia T/V too that use this chipset, and qualcomm is slow to update, competition is good!
huatz84 said:
Lenovo bought Motorola is a good sign for great marketing than the tricky Google. We should see sdcard,quadcore (no more dualcore krait),FullHD screen,great camera software in a Motorola phone soon. My friend has just bought a Lenovo P780. It's a great device with great build quality,vivid screen and a monster battery (4000 mah).
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Finally someone with the positive view!! I'm supporting your statement 100%!!! Cheers!!!
Lenovo will make Motorola what it should have been. Obviously the Chinese appreciate Motorola name and tradition more than the Americans..
Go Moto!!!
Dennis Woodside , a Man with a Mission sent in by google to change the destiny of motorola Resigns from his position to work as COO of Dropbox ahead of the Lenovo deal
Mr Woodside was known to be quite down to earth and he even shifted his office from Adminstration floor to a desk in basement where the engineering team worked
A sad news indeed for Moto Lovers
This is not good
wrj54 said:
This is not good
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As the Ceo leaves many of his trusted minions in top positions would start leaving too And other companies would start poaching good engineer thus driving away the talent pool of Moto....this might be the end of moto
jaspreet997 said:
As the Ceo leaves many of his trusted minions in top positions would start leaving too And other companies would start poaching good engineer thus driving away the talent pool of Moto....this might be the end of moto
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Mr Woodside is a very nice and ambitious guy. try watching his presentations in youtube. he is the brains behind our great moto G. If he is leaving the company means there must be some thing between lenovo management and him. its mostly likely to be incompatibility of ideologies of lenovo and woodside. I think this is doom for motorola. :crying:
Yes he was a awesome ceo.....but I think its becoming a trend for Big Ceo's to leave companies for smaller ones
Maybe Next think we hear Tim Cook (apple guy) leaving it to become CEO of flappy Birds
ok, lets be objective about this. In two years the 'apparent' profitability of Motorola has fallen through the floor. Google has gouged the relevant patents and then sold on the bones to Lenovo at a massive cut price.
Either the CEO's job was the present the façade of a successful company ready for resale while it was looted, or he kinda failed if he was 'really' trying to bring moto mobile back to its former glory. It doesn't surprise me he is leaving.
The MOTO G and the MOTO X, imo are great phones, however they do not mean Motorola is a success. If it really was, google would have kept it, or sold as a profit, not a massssssive loss.
Lenovo were buying the brand, nothing more. It is totally expected that half the leadership team would leave...
I'm sure someone will come forward stating that Google actually made a profit, or mitigated their losses through acquiring patents etc. This is my point exactly. Either the CEO was just giving the appearance of success while asset stripping, OR there was still more value in Motorola and google should have kept it. Google made a loss in the hundreds of millions, if not billions even taking into account the patents etc with motorola. These may net out in the future because of additional asset streams from the patents, but this is speculation. In addition, Google press release on the sale is of course extremely well loaded with positive spin. This is no different from any other companies actions. They will always promote the upside to ensure share price growth/stability. What company in their right mind would make noise about increased liabilities from an acquisition, or suggest a business arm was failing just before it is sold!
Imagine I was about to sell a car, you think I would tell everyone I was stripping out all the best bits and selling on the crap BEFORE the sale.
Imagine I was buying a factory, you think I would tell my investors it was a big risk and might be overpriced, or you think I would tell them it's a great deal.... think about it...
helppme said:
ok, lets be objective about this. In two years the 'apparent' profitability of Motorola has fallen through the floor. Google has gouged the relevant patents and then sold on the bones to Lenovo at a massive cut price.
Either the CEO's job was the present the façade of a successful company ready for resale while it was looted, or he kinda failed if he was 'really' trying to bring moto mobile back to its former glory. It doesn't surprise me he is leaving.
The MOTO G and the MOTO X, imo are great phones, however they do not mean Motorola is a success. If it really was, google would have kept it, or sold as a profit, not a massssssive loss.
Lenovo were buying the brand, nothing more. It is totally expected that half the leadership team would leave...
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There are some statistics available around the internet which shows that Google's loss wasn't as massve as you may think..Anyway we will wait for the google quarter's report
And Dennis ofcourse did not slingshot the company back in profit....you can't do that in such a short time but he made the brand value 'sellable' again
Moto x can be called the best phone of 2013 for some!
and some of Moto X's r & d made its way to Moto G which is Definately the best middle range/budget phone of 2013
I would call that a success!!
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jaspreet997 said:
There are some statistics available around the internet which shows that Google's loss wasn't as massve as you may think..Anyway we will wait for the google quarter's report
And Dennis ofcourse did not slingshot the company back in profit....you can't do that in such a short time but he made the brand value 'sellable' again
Moto x can be called the best phone of 2013 for some!
and some of Moto X's r & d made its way to Moto G which is Definately the best middle range/budget phone of 2013
I would call that a success!!
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Any half decent company can make the top phone if they are willing to make it for a loss.
In the world of investment and corporate take overs, any loss is a failure....
helppme said:
Any half decent company can make the top phone if they are willing to make it for a loss.
In the world of investment and corporate take overs, any loss is a failure....
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No ofcourse its Not!
Even apple had seen some huge losses.......you will keep failing until you succeed...that's the mantra
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helppme said:
The MOTO G and the MOTO X, imo are great phones, however they do not mean Motorola is a success. If it really was, google would have kept it, or sold as a profit, not a massssssive loss.
Lenovo were buying the brand, nothing more. It is totally expected that half the leadership team would leave...
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And what of Google’s supposed $10bn loss? It’s a misreported myth calculated by subtracting Motorola’s $2.91bn sale price from its $12.5bn purchase. What it misses are the $3.2bn Motorola had in cash, $2.4bn saved in deferred tax assets and two separate Motorola unit sales totalling $2.5bn in 2013. Factor in Lenovo’s purchase against roughly $2bn of Motorola losses during Google’s ownership and Google has still only paid $3bn for what it retained: $5.5bn worth of Motorola patents and the company’s cutting edge research lab.
Google aren't fools you know.
Let's stick to the topic here and avoid petty bickering and quote altering thanks guys... Thread cleaned.
centavar said:
And what of Google’s supposed $10bn loss? It’s a misreported myth calculated by subtracting Motorola’s $2.91bn sale price from its $12.5bn purchase. What it misses are the $3.2bn Motorola had in cash, $2.4bn saved in deferred tax assets and two separate Motorola unit sales totalling $2.5bn in 2013. Factor in Lenovo’s purchase against roughly $2bn of Motorola losses during Google’s ownership and Google has still only paid $3bn for what it retained: $5.5bn worth of Motorola patents and the company’s cutting edge research lab.
Google aren't fools you know.
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I think if you reread my original post you will see I already addressed this point. We agree. My discussion was with regards to the action of the CEO. Your figures further support my point. Thank you.
[At] Motorola's MWC press dinner. Motorola senior vice president of product management Rick Osterloh had this to say while talking about Motorola's commitment to Android, the upcoming merger, and Motorola's future:
The Moto G has been the most successful, highest-selling smartphone in Motorola's history.
He went on to mention that Motorola is making a profit on every sale, and that they will make even more after the Lenovo purchase is complete.
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And let's hope Lenovo don't spoil things by charging too much for the next instalment of the Moto G.
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It's a win/win for everyone!
jonny68 said:
And let's hope Lenovo don't spoil things by charging too much for the next instalment of the Moto G.
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I'm more worried about bloatware and their ability/willingness to provide timely system updates. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that would really make a significant improvement is a better camera.
With such a user base you would expect regular software updates, it's one of the reasons why the success. That model should carry through regardless of the the parent company. It would be foolish to do otherwise this early. Motorola has quite a status in its own right, that's something it was purchased for, it would make little sense to strip it of what has made it iconic. The same goes for its' version of Android.
Google wins too through patent licencing into some markets where it hasn't faired as well as it expected to. Lenova gets Google in-the-door. Motorola gets backing for more R&D, manufacturing, etc. Us consumers should get the benefits of that, so the campaign worked and we should hold them to that.
It's a great handset after all. As said before, the camera could be better, but it could be improved by better software. The white balance is woeful, lol. Some presets would be nice or some manual control. Skin tones aren't top notch and can be improved since it's for an international market, but that could be done through software.
The specifications are good, one of the few penta-band phones out there, that can go anywhere.
IMO, if they keep the less-is-more idea, in terms of android, they'll do even better. Now if you could tell that to Google...
Yeah, its general chit-chat thread for the Moto X. there are some talks, question which don't' deserve dedicated threads so decided to put a common thread for such talks.
Here is fist query from my side:
Here is promotional video of the MotoX. I want to know which audio track is this? Maybe this is Motorola's own track which may not be available as commercial but I am in love with the track, especially the track gets interesting at the ending. Want to know what genre is this or any other closest audio track which resembles with this. Here is the video, please listen:
thank you
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/11/moto-x-review-2014/
Great great review!
10/10 will buy just need release already
Seems like the 17th is the rumor
Can we expect this kind of durability form the new Moto X ?? I don't think so. Bigger the phone grows, more fragile it. And the new model seems like has turned into more delicate device after adding that bigger display and thing metallic bezel.
I also seen similar tests for Samsung Galazy (S5 or similar) and LG G3 and all of them failed the tests.
What do you all think will happen with Moto since Punit Soni resigned? If someone is knowledgeable in business matters, with the company still do what they've been doing without the VP of product management?
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What do you all think will happen with Moto since Punit Soni resigned? If someone is knowledgeable in business matters, with the company still do what they've been doing without the VP of product management?
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No doubt he have had important role during Motorola's recovery days so this is definitely a loss. But here is another important thing that Motorola could fight back because of one magic combination : Google+Motorola.
Now Google doesn't seem to be interested in manufacturing thus they sold Motorola to Lenovo after doing bit of successful experiments and keeping few Motorola patents with them. We have seen how good the three models launched by Motorola under Google's ownership have turned out.
Future success and reputation of Motorola will depend on how Lenovo operates the company. They bought ThinkPad unit from IBM and carried the character of those laptops. But they didn't buy the whole brand so obviously they didn't use the IBM brand name with those laptops. Here they have bought the whole company along with brand name so I just hope that they let the Motorola keep going in it's own way, they don't mix Moto phones with their own phones and sell the mobile phones with Motorola brand name. Motorola has got it's own fan following which has just increased in the past one year because of distinct image their phones .have built up in recent time. Lenovo should respect expectations of those fans.
I am hoping for good but smelling mixed kind of probabilities.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
No doubt he have had important role during Motorola's recovery days so this is definitely a loss. But here is another important thing that Motorola could fight back because of one magic combination : Google+Motorola.
Now Google doesn't seem to be interested in manufacturing thus they sold Motorola to Lenovo after doing bit of successful experiments and keeping few Motorola patents with them. We have seen how good the three models launched by Motorola under Google's ownership have turned out.
Future success and reputation of Motorola will depend on how Lenovo operates the company. They bought ThinkPad unit from IBM and carried the character of those laptops. But they didn't buy the whole brand so obviously they didn't use the IBM brand name with those laptops. Here they have bought the whole company along with brand name so I just hope that they let the Motorola keep going in it's own way, they don't mix Moto phones with their own phones and sell the mobile phones with Motorola brand name. Motorola has got it's own fan following which has just increased in the past one year because of distinct image their phones .have built up in recent time. Lenovo should respect expectations of those fans.
I am hoping for good but smelling mixed kind of probabilities.
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I am loving the detailed post. Hopefully good things are to come, despite a loss
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I panicked a little when I went to log into XDA today, I thought I was forced to use Google+ to log in which would not be good.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
Future success and reputation of Motorola will depend on how Lenovo operates the company. They bought ThinkPad unit from IBM and carried the character of those laptops. But they didn't buy the whole brand so obviously they didn't use the IBM brand name with those laptops. Here they have bought the whole company along with brand name so I just hope that they let the Motorola keep going in it's own way, they don't mix Moto phones with their own phones and sell the mobile phones with Motorola brand name. Motorola has got it's own fan following which has just increased in the past one year because of distinct image their phones .have built up in recent time. Lenovo should respect expectations of those fans.
I am hoping for good but smelling mixed kind of probabilities.
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Based on the way they treated the thinkpad branding, I think there is a good chance they will make Motorola/Moto a line of the Lenovo brand. Lenovo are very good at driving down supply-chain cost. I think Motorola actually has a chance to increase global market share with them as a lower-price alternative to Samsung built with decent product design and quality. I'm not sure that is what I would want, but it would keep Motorola relevant.
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Based on the way they treated the thinkpad branding, I think there is a good chance they will make Motorola/Moto a line of the Lenovo brand. Lenovo are very good at driving down supply-chain cost. I think Motorola actually has a chance to increase global market share with them as a lower-price alternative to Samsung built with decent product design and quality. I'm not sure that is what I would want, but it would keep Motorola relevant.
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Lenovo shouldn't touch Motorola's product design and stuff. The only thing they should touch is the marketing side of it all. Maybe some of the camera stuff and battery also, but Moto is onto something with their Moto X lineup, and it'll only get better
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i have the phone in my hands. so far, MUCH better than my Nexus 4. the speed is there. the audio for the music is a tad bit better. the back of the phone is nice, it feels smooth but not slippery. i need to test battery now, so i will post that in the other thread
Been using an iPhone 5s for 4 months. Oh boy how much I miss android . using art as well
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i have the phone in my hands. so far, MUCH better than my Nexus 4. the speed is there. the audio for the music is a tad bit better. the back of the phone is nice, it feels smooth but not slippery. i need to test battery now, so i will post that in the other thread
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Cool. I'm upgrading from nexus 4 as well. Mines coming in tomorrow! My nexus 4 was still perfectly smooth though.
lin013190 said:
Cool. I'm upgrading from nexus 4 as well. Mines coming in tomorrow! My nexus 4 was still perfectly smooth though.
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My Nexus 4 was dying in the battery department and it would always heat up. Moto X seems like the best mix of a Nexus and a consumer focused phone. I say consumer focused because Nexus phones have been targeted toward devs
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My Nexus 4 was dying in the battery department and it would always heat up. Moto X seems like the best mix of a Nexus and a consumer focused phone. I say consumer focused because Nexus phones have been targeted toward devs
sent from my Moto X (2014)
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Agreed
Android L Coming this month to Moto Lineup???
Look at here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/android-l-month-t2878580
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i have the phone in my hands. so far, MUCH better than my Nexus 4. the speed is there. the audio for the music is a tad bit better. the back of the phone is nice, it feels smooth but not slippery. i need to test battery now, so i will post that in the other thread
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Many Congratulations
And you promised about review on plastic back cover, whever you get enough time And please some photos
Jack Sparrow xda said:
Android L Coming this month to Moto Lineup???
Look at here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/android-l-month-t2878580
Many Congratulations
And you promised about review on plastic back cover, whever you get enough time And please some photos
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I did say what the back of the phone is like earlier. What else do you want to know about the plastic? It's smooth but not too slippery. I don't think it's soft touch
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On the fence..
I cant decide if I want to get this. I loved the original Moto X but now I have the M8, which is great - no complaints, but I must confess I'm a phone junky (aren't we all?). I've looked at so many reviews and the only thing that still bothers me is the camera, and battery life compared to the M8. But then there's the next to pure android experience and motomaker....so tough.
Hello, i just wanted bring all of you together to read this thread. Ok so i know since you've been a Moto owner, you've heard or seen at least once insulting comment about your device or the Motorola company. For example, "Anything that Motorola makes sucks" "People only get them because they're cheap" "That phone is crappy". I know that those people are ignorant to other people's liking. I'm tired of hearing the same thing. A lot of people that own super expensive high end- flashy smartphones say things like that about devices like the Moto series. Well that really offends me, just because they might not be the most high-end smartphones or the most expensive smartphones doesn't mean they are worthless. We Moto owners take great pride in our device, we appreciate what we have and we value our smartphones.
If someone offered me a brand new Galaxy S6 and a brand new Moto X and said i could only pick one. I would pick the Moto X hands down without a doubt in my mind. Because I know, We know what matters in a smartphone. What is that? User experience and performance for the price. That's what a review comes down to at the end of the day. A company could make a super spec'd out smartphone but get the same review score as a phone a fraction of its cost. I know if i were to buy a $1000 smartphone it better be great in every aspect and i know if i bought a smartphone for half that price, i'm not expecting it to be perfect but i want to have a good performance. That's exactly what motorola does, it gives you a great performing phone for the price.
For example, the Moto G. It has a low price point but does everything you need it to do. If I want a super powerful gaming machine of a smartphone, I'm not going to buy the Moto G. Then give a bad review for not being able to do what i wanted it to. I'm gonna buy a smartphone with a powerful chipset. At the end of the day we Moto owners stand out. Other people don't seem to understand our taste in smartphones value. Im not saying if you own a super expensive phone you're a bad person or anything. I'm just saying you get what you pay for. All of you Moto owners, good job in picking a smartphone. It doesn't matter if you have a Moto E, a Moto G or a Moto X. We all are equal and unified. #Teammoto
Proof that price doesn't matter
Moto has shunned a lot of former owners myself included l...while I love this phone Moto can still lick my berries.
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It cost me over $1000 to get a MotoMaker Moto X into my country.
Worth every cent!
Beautiful design, Better features and Better performance than all my friends IPhones and Shamsungs.
Agreed !
Most people I talk to in my cell phone repair shop are ignorant to Motorola smartphones. They see my phone and ask what it is. Then they say that it looks nice.
Let those say whatever they want to because they are not aware of the fact that Motorola is the one who created mobile industry, rest are just parts of this industry. Real innovator is Motorola, rest just follow up whatever is left out by Motorola. Even today no other phone can beat a MotoX in terms of 'smartness', rest just feel dumb phones in front of a Moto X.
Motorola users don't need to frequently change their devices because they are more durable, can keep going for few generations of OS versions, come at cheaper price point. A 2-3 years Moto can easily keep going till the next Moto replaces it. You hardly see other brand's phones over 2 years old in anyone's hands. Others just fight needless specs war whereas specs is not everything. so called small battery and poor camera of my MotoX never miss the chance of surprising me by their performance, thats engineering, not just putting useless counts of cores or big spec battery or a high pixel density display which unnecessarily eats up the additional CPU power or battery.
Offcourse there are flaws in the Moto devices also but others are much more flawed. I am currently fighting a consumer court case against poor after sales service provided by Motorola when they took forever to repair a defective MotoE under warranty but that bad incident isn't enough to reduce my love and respect towards the Motorola brand.
Their strong comeback in the market after going completely dead is one more reason to buy their devices because it motivates to wake up and fight in the life, doesn't matter whatever trouble life throws on us. :good:
Let the ignorant people go gaga over whatever they want to, it doesn't changes the reality, does it?
the sad thing is that we are on a new level of "low" on the Dev part of our community.. only a few roms and most of them 5.0.x, only one custom kernel and only for CM based roms.. id love to have a custom kernel on my stock but rooted to be able to play with synapse to tamper with settings to "beast-out" ok gaming and more out of battery for everyday use..
about the talk.. heh I've been experiencing these kind of things at work when they see me use the my phone.. waving my hand over it to check my notifications.. they are so jealous [emoji13]
Motorola is still a great manufacturer, designer, innovater of awesome phones! The X series are the living proofs of this! Many users hate the company now because motorola promised them faster updates and has been really slow and non transparent in terms of updates!
I think motorola has done a great job in terms of updates and phones in general! Leaving the S6 which had 5.0 out of the box, no other manufacturer has provided 5.1 update to any of their phones yet other than the nexus line! People would never understand that 5.0 to 5.0.2 were buggy! They just want an update so they could think less of it and start complaining about the next version of android not being given to them in time! I say such people should buy nexus phones to get timely updates and stop the ranting!
For other people who have a higher price higher spec phones dont know much about android. They just buy a high spec phone thinking its future proof and later understand that there are many more newer innovations at a lesser price. Such people always keep wasting money in those high specs! Motorola doesn't provide high specs. But it provides the perfect balance of specs and working and useful features in their phones which are more useful in daily use and thus it makes the phones a daily driver.
The only problem with their phone is the fragile screen. Its glass and glass tends to break when it takes a hit. But the cost to replace it is too much! In India we need to pay 75% of the purchase cost to get the screen replaced! That's what is keeping people from buying motorola!
I love Stock Android on the Moto X 2014 ?
I miss the development of roms
That is because the source is still stuck back at 5.0.2. It would be great if we could get more up to date source.
I got my s3 when it was a flagship device and had a Samsung phone earlier. The primary reason I got the moto X was the price due to the cyber Monday sale. I saved up anticipating that the nexus 6 would be around the same price as the 5 but it turned out to be very expensive for me.
I had a few apprehensions before getting this device as I had never owned a moto device, but the X has exceeded my expectations! For the price, I don't think any other phone offers similar build quality and specs. Sure a bigger battery or a SD card slot would have been sweet but I feel that this is the perfect blend of stock plus nifty Moto features. I'm so used to active display now that I don't think I can actually use a device without it!
As far as updates are concerned, I'd rather have a fully functional 5.1 build rather than a messed up quickly released and buggy one. The delay has been a little annoying with multiple soak tests but if it results in a near bug free build then I'd rather wait!
All in all very satisfied with the phone.
#teammoto
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