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It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
Totally agree mate!
Aosp ones are the best...
the only thing i wait is the official jb update so the aosp ones can get sources to built on and also to have the best sammy ones(comparable to aosp since it's jb) ever!
But until then,aosp all the way...
Aokp Liquid and Resurrection for new I use Samy base JB Dragon
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jonny68 said:
It's taken me quite sometime to realise how much superior AOSP ROM's are in comparison to Sammy based ROM's, i first flashed Supernexus out of curiosity a few weeks ago and was blown away by it's speed and smoothness far far better than Sammy ROM's in every respect, i then went onto Liquid Jellybean which was even better especially the battery life but with a few minor bugs and no update as of yet but im sure it'll come at some stage, now im on blackbean which uses the same base as Liquid JB and amazing stuff indeed, the speed and smoothness is unrivaled, with more development it will only get better.
Previously ive had superb ROM's like CheckRom, Android Revolution and Omega which are all excellent ROM's in their own individual way but i doubt ill ever go back to anything that isn't AOSP now unless some serious development happens which i wouldn't be surprised on XDA, so what type of ROM's do people prefer for their Galaxy S3?
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I used to have a Captivate and ran only AOSP/CM/AOKP roms. I still have it (use it as an mp3 player) and it's awesome.
No on my i9300, I'm using Omega v11. I tried SuperNexus Build 1 and tried a couple of AOSP based rom. I haven't tried later JB roms because I'm concerned with the memory leaks and lack of tv out and stuff like that. The main difference I found is the camera. The Samsung Camera app is very, very good. It is, flat out, superior to the ICS/JB Camera app. Allshare, FM Radio, TV Out, seem usually to be unsupported on AOSP roms (please correct me if I'm wrong).
I think AOSP (and variants) roms are very good. UI is sleaker and they might be a bit more responsive, but I could appreciate a greater difference when I had a Galaxy S with a half baked Touchwiz on it that with the complete monster the i9300 is with a thought out, 3rd or 4th generation Touchwiz. I still use Nova Launcher, because it looks better to me, but I love Smart Stay, TV out is absurdly useful to play n64 games or so with an emulator and a ps3 controller and again, the camera.
I might go back to AOSP roms. I've been looking for a good theme for stock roms, but haven't found one that actually replicates the feeling. However, functionality wise, I think Samsung's Roms are superior.
Excellent thread....Aosp are very responsive and pretty slick....you can feel the new all the advantages of JB.....but as said by monoespacial, the tricks in TW such as smart stay and others are very useful...it'll will be great if one of our outstanding developers in this forum can bake a Rom based on Aosp JB including all the mentionned tweaks.......excellent forum and wonderful community.....thanks.
I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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yeah
they are simple and fast, and can install kernel with oveclock
but:
-no wifi tethering (its important to me)
-some FC
-inferior camera app
-without some features, like smart stay, etc ...
I agree!! Those AOSP or AOKP are excellent in terms of speed and smooth-ness. It also somehow integrate to the Google products better. However, they are often very simple interface with nothing much..
Too bad at this moment, there are still bugs that can't be fixed.
In the future, I will just go and get the original Google Nexus phone... You'll get the latest update first hand and there are less bloatware installed
- Charles
Haven't tried other AOSP rom except CM. Can't wait for memory leak fix on CM10
aosp is fast and slick , i love it but there is no denying the fact samsung has improved the quality of their roms for s3..... aosp vs stock is always been a debatable question where aosp always wins. but with galaxy s3 roms samsung has progressed one step higher.
at the end of the day not only the speed that matters but also the releaibility and functionality...
advatanges of aosp:
* Your mobile is fast and clean.
* More room for multitasking with more memory available.
* Wide variety of themes to choose from.
* aokp and derivative of aosp roms are simply amazing
disadvantages:
* it just makes your s3 like any other mobile that runs aosp. No device specific functions.
* Inferior camera.
* you will never get some features .
hoping to see a bug free cmx soon...................................
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I've had two nexus phones so I love aosp, it's android perfection.
In saying that, I've found myself flashing Cm10 or supernexus or liquid because I was sick of tw but after a day or two I get sick of them, I always end up going back to tw roms, especially since the JB leaks, the latest one is near perfection.
Tw JB roms COMPLETELY de-bloated are pretty damn smooth and fast, right now I see no need for aosp roms.
There are too many handy features in the tw roms.
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I agree! I started off my rom flashing on a milestone2 and when I got cm7 on it for the first time, I was in love with it. Then I got a g2x which was stock gb all the way too.
Finally I get this sg3 which was a must have and wow, I have used cm 9,10, every other aosp and aokp rom but stock again has more stuff u can't get from others.
I adw, Nova, launcher pro but I just tw all the way. Suits my needs.
I guess the best thing about it is, we could always change it when need be!
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I do like the AOSP / AOKP etc. roms due to their speed, clean base and an intuitive user interface, but some bad things keep me from going to them.
Annoying bugs:
More FC's
Bluetooth works bad with A2DP headphones - choppy sound, interruption etc.
Native USB Tither doesn't work
Overheating compared to stock roms
Some cool things missing from stock roms such as superior camera, video call, smart stay etc.
A lot of minor bugs
Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
jonny68 said:
Just to respond to some posts (good replies by the way)some people mentioned an inferior camera, a third party camera app like Camera ZoomFX does the job nicely and is one of the best IMO.
I rarely use WiFi tethering although ill probably be using it for 1 week next week while i wait to change broadband providers, there ar emany third party apps that im sure will do the job there.
If some TW features could be implemented into AOSP it would be a win win situation, but with the speed and responsiveness and battery life so good im staying put, much and all as i like ROM's like CheckRom and Android Revolution (2 of the best Sammy based ROM's IMO) but after having AOSP on the dog and bone i couldn't go back.
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true, it would be nice to have new touchwiz features in cmx btw whatever the 3rd party app you use you cant get near to the stock camera app which has fetures like hdr,buddy share and more and adding to the arsenal jb update brings "pause while recording" feature to the camera app. BUt sadly its the price we have to pay for the luxury of aosp
Yeah, I was blown away at the speed of AOSP, the one major disadvantage(in my eyes) is the current memory leak present.
I'm sure that in due time, the AOSP camera will get all those features present on the Sammy camera.
I guess the thing I miss the most from the Sammy ROM was the swipe left to message and swipe right to call. Very useful feature IMO.
can someone confirm if USB tethering works on AOSP?
Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
Thanks!
rommark said:
Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
Thanks!
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Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.
I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.
i wish beats audio would work on JB
I agree with all of the above. I love CM and AOKP and their unique set of features and vanilla goodies, but Samsung have really done a number on the S3! I find myself flashing the latest leaks almost straight away. They've just included so many useful features into the OS that I've become reliant on that, while I certainly prefer the vanilla look and speed, I don't want to sacrifice such genuinely useful features for it.
Except S-Voice of course, Lloyd* only knows what convinced Samsung it was going to be of any use to anyone - didn't they try it for themselves first?
Mind boggling to say the least. I do have to say though, the latest AOKP build looks mighty interesting with its tablet UI feature - wonder if it's done in a similar way to ParanoidAndroid?
*Android Central reference :thumbup:
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The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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CM/AOSP/AOKP roms are always very fast. I flash every kind of these Roms. It would be great port some apk files such as Music player, camera, clock, widgets to work on these roms.
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The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.
With SGS1 and 2 I used CM until ICS leaks come out, since then it is not worth the performance "difference", comparing with what we loose
First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW
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The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.
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Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!
TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.
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Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!
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It's available in the CM10 thread. I would advise you to read the instructions before flashing CM10, as it is not exactly like flashing a Samsung rom.
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TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.
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It does make all the difference, more costumizable, doesnt look like iPhone, etc :victory:
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First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW
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I don't think you get how this works.
Toss3 said:
Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.
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Couldnt agree with you more. Every phone ive had has been flashed with CM... The gs2 benefits from it but i have to say it. Touchwizz and the features of the stock rom ie; pop out play, motion controls, smoothness etc.. There just isnt the need to switch for me.
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Im using Omega Rom which keeps all the touchwiz features i want but makes it better than stock. Best of Both!
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I don't think you get how this works.
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TW only problem is the interface, before it might impair performanmce too, but now it is not relevant
Kangburra said:
I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.
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That's why I love Vertimus and Domination Theme! Best of both worlds, for the most part. We just saw a post that said JB 1.3.1 will be showing up sometime this week.
If you want battery, I would recommand using the FoxHound Rom (0.5 now) with Siyah Kernel (included) plus the STweaks Hardcore3boost. That's what I did and my system is still very smooth.
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i wish beats audio would work on JB
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Just turn the volume to Max,same with all EQ settings, fill your ears with ground glass and use the cheapest headphones you can find. Viola! The True Beats Experience.
So I got my (almost) perfect setup on my N9005 with X-Note 7 (4.3 based), Custom N3 Kernel v8, Holo Theme, lots of xposed modules to tweak visuals etc. even more, lightning launcher and appsi sidebar.
I currently can't really think of much that is missing still that made me fall in love with aosp based all-in-one roms like bam in the first place.
Even halo and floating windows (well we got pen-window anyway on the note 3) can be enabled with xposed modules.
Is there anything I am forgetting? Don't get me wrong, I love aosp and really hate the touchwiz crap (at least if you dont theme it) and all that bloatware, but the advanced spen functionalities require the touchwiz framework.
On my note 1 I eventually ended up using JellyBam (thats bam-android now, all in one type aosp rom) because it offered so much more options, and with the "forbidden" kernel which was also cm based the thing ran like a beast.
But now that xposed got so big and theres a modules for all the nice features that get added to the aosp all in one type roms, this changes the game a bit...
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I already asked people about benchmarks to see if there is any performance differnce between the touchwiz and aosp builds, but it was basically the same. (cm reported benchmarks were a bit lower than my benchmark results, but only tiny amount, and this could have also been caused by me using slight oc, and cm ppl not...)
So are there any hot features that is offered by the CM-based roms that would outweight missing out on the spen functionalities?
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This thread is a bit silly I know.. but I'd just like to hear some opinions.
What Samsung features are missing when you install CyanogenMod ROM? I noticed that all of the cool, stock lockscreen effects are missing. But what about things like:
Super fast boot time
multi-window
S Beam
Screen Mirroring
Floating Messages
S Pen
Etc
I tried CM only for couple of hours (that was quite honestly enough for me), and S Pen features were obviously missing, same for Multi Window, and most importantly for me the display profiles weren't there, I mean the ones you find under Settings- Display, Cinema is the one I use, and I won't use anything else, and CM doesn't have anything like that, they have some colour temperature altering option however, but quite honestly that was nowhere near same as Samsung's preset calibration. Another thing is, the camera photo quality won't be like stock TouchWiz camera, and then there is the call quality!
It was way too many things to compromise for me, for little speed bump.
Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!
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I tried CM only for couple of hours (that was quite honestly enough for me), and S Pen features were obviously missing, same for Multi Window, and most importantly for me the display profiles weren't there, I mean the ones you find under Settings- Display, Cinema is the one I use, and I won't use anything else, and CM doesn't have anything like that, they have some colour temperature altering option however, but quite honestly that was nowhere near same as Samsung's preset calibration. Another thing is, the camera photo quality won't be like stock TouchWiz camera, and then there is the call quality!
It was way too many things to compromise for me, for little speed bump.
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Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!
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Thanks, I think I'll stick with TouchWiz then!
Right but it's more to personal preference. Most importantly I hate the interface. TW is much better looking for me. I can live with some lags.
CM, overall it's fast but it has some lags when opening a dialer or so. And the battery life is terrible. No matter which rom i've tried on my note 1 & 3 nothing is better than TW.
If i want a stock android i will get a nexus.
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Lol
For me TW is the ugliest.
Never used gimmicks so for me there is no point in TW. Haven't touched stylus in a year, I don't multi task. And there are apps that work even better than Samsung spen apps other than snote, but Microsoft note is great.
Can't compare nexus phones to others as their design and hardware isn't best compared to Sony and htc, and some Samsung phones. I like Samsungs hardware but I have cm on all my devices. I like smoothness of CM if you can sett it up the way you want. Never ever lags here.
For me SoT is up to 8 hours and I'm happy as I have no problem charging phone wherever am I.
If CM was so bad it wouldn't be so popular and used by millions.
And those that buy a Samsung device just like others buy an apple, there is no way they can accept anything else.
Those willing to try new things can try themselves and see if it is working for them or not. Everything else is bull****, as I have listened to those before and this way missed my dream OS till I tried different ones and finally found what I was looking for.
TW is best for those that can't live without it. TW is the worst for those that don't like it.
CM is best for those that like it. CM is worst for those that see no point in it.
nijom said:
Was in CM till the Lollipop came and yes I don't use much TW features even though I am in TW now.
but after Lollipop, TW is better in performance and battery (without Greenify or Xposed), I've freezed a few apps though..
Im using Lean Kernel and TW base gives better battery anyday!
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I agree totally. Before tw lollipop, I couldn't stand tw. Now it feels just as fast as some cm roms, save for a few lightning fast ROMs like slim and validus and minimal.
I do enjoy cm/slim a lot because of all the well designed themes and built in mods/cherry picks.
On tw you need to use xposed, or an app, to achieve different tweaks. But if you cook up a ROM with those features, you're all set. Cough cough aryamod layers, mods, cough cough
I do need more battery life, so sadly I can only use tw for the time being.
But I can find touch wiz app alternatives that suffice when on cm. Although camera quality isn't as good.
I guess I'm a perfect candidate for multi boot...
Tw average sot for my usage: 6 to 7hr
Cm average sot for my usage: 4 to 5hr
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it would be great if a dev. pulls out the latest touchwiz based rom for our devices lolli will work as well!!!
I'm sorry.. What??? [emoji15]
I think you should be banned!
Just kidding but i don't understand, stock aosp is far better than touchwiz.
I have a nexus 4 and a SGS5 and i only like the S5 because it has a bigger screen and a better camera. If you look at the whole picture i would prefer the N4 over the S5 everyday.. CM makes my S5 worth using but touchwiz makes me hate it!
I can imagine that people that always had Samsung can't live without but not me, I've had many different brands and the N4 is by far the best I've ever had.