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[Q] cyanogenmod exynos status i9500?

Hello,
Moderators, please take it easy on me as I am really confused on the whole matter.
I heard allot about cyanogen not coming to our phones due to Samsung not releasing the Exynos documentation for the I9500.
But yesterday, I read on g+:
"Finally, just a note that Exynos 3 and Exynos 5 devices are not impacted by the information above. The Nexus S allows for a solid Exynos 3 base, and the Nexus 10 for the Exynos 5 base. We have an i9500 in hand and will be working towards bringing the Exynos 5 Octo platform up to release quality as well."
Could one or some of you kind people please answer some questions for me?
1. How will cyanogen release any ROM if no documentation for exynos 5 is released?
2. Have they decided to support rom development since they now have a i9500? I'm just wondering because if they had the nexus 10, wouldn't it have been possible to have started rom development sometime ago? or is it crucial that they first have the device to support it. I don't quite understand how the nexus 10 and the i9500 could be of the same base. whilst they both use exynos, no documentation is released?
3. I hear many people would prefer to stay away from exynos devices in future, and rightfully so, because the lack of documentation. But if cyanogenmod does come to the i9500 would it be right to say that it may have the same fate as the exynos 4 devices in the near future?
4. Would cyanogen support have root triangle and mobile oddin coming to our devices? Yes, I do understand those are entirely different developers, but I'm just hoping something may come of it?
5. Now that cyanogen would make it to the i9500, is it worth getting this phone or should I wait for the i9505? I've heard sound quality, and battery life are quite good on i9500. I do not need LTE at this moment in time.

New here! Have a few questions.

HI there folks,
I am a newborn noob here. Would like to introduce myself.
I have recently bought the first Android device I have ever owned which is the i9500 Octa Core and I am loving it, I have found that Android is 100000000000x999 times better than any other mobile operating system and so I have a huge interest in it. Have been reading about it for a month now and I want to many things to my device but unfortunately can't because the i9500 does not get much love, especially here in South Africa, where Samsung can't even provide us with the latest firmware update.
I really want to root & flash my phone however I don't want to Void my warranty and I know that the Triangle Away app can remove the flash counter however it does not support i9500 Octa yet...
I am an experienced Graphic Designer, have been doing it for 5 years using Photoshop and sometimes CorelDraw, so if anyone would like me to help out with designs for their applications, I don't mind helping out.
I have a lot of knowledge about Computers and Cellphones however not enough about Linux based systems, that is why I am here, to learn, learn and learn.
Also I wanted to ask if I can put Google Stock Android OS 4.2 or 4.3 on my i9500 Octa instead of using Samsung's crappy TouchWiz? Is it possible?

Gh0zt_ZA said:
HI there folks,
I am a newborn noob here. Would like to introduce myself.
I have recently bought the first Android device I have ever owned which is the i9500 Octa Core and I am loving it, I have found that Android is 100000000000x999 times better than any other mobile operating system and so I have a huge interest in it. Have been reading about it for a month now and I want to many things to my device but unfortunately can't because the i9500 does not get much love, especially here in South Africa, where Samsung can't even provide us with the latest firmware update.
I really want to root & flash my phone however I don't want to Void my warranty and I know that the Triangle Away app can remove the flash counter however it does not support i9500 Octa yet...
I am an experienced Graphic Designer, have been doing it for 5 years using Photoshop and sometimes CorelDraw, so if anyone would like me to help out with designs for their applications, I don't mind helping out.
I have a lot of knowledge about Computers and Cellphones however not enough about Linux based systems, that is why I am here, to learn, learn and learn.
Also I wanted to ask if I can put Google Stock Android OS 4.2 or 4.3 on my i9500 Octa instead of using Samsung's crappy TouchWiz? Is it possible?
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Not possible. Not yet atleast. Doc Rambone is working on porting over the i9505 google edition 4.2.2 rom but we haven't heard from him in a while

Gh0zt_ZA said:
HI there folks,
I am a newborn noob here. Would like to introduce myself.
I have recently bought the first Android device I have ever owned which is the i9500 Octa Core and I am loving it, I have found that Android is 100000000000x999 times better than any other mobile operating system and so I have a huge interest in it. Have been reading about it for a month now and I want to many things to my device but unfortunately can't because the i9500 does not get much love, especially here in South Africa, where Samsung can't even provide us with the latest firmware update.
I really want to root & flash my phone however I don't want to Void my warranty and I know that the Triangle Away app can remove the flash counter however it does not support i9500 Octa yet...
I am an experienced Graphic Designer, have been doing it for 5 years using Photoshop and sometimes CorelDraw, so if anyone would like me to help out with designs for their applications, I don't mind helping out.
I have a lot of knowledge about Computers and Cellphones however not enough about Linux based systems, that is why I am here, to learn, learn and learn.
Also I wanted to ask if I can put Google Stock Android OS 4.2 or 4.3 on my i9500 Octa instead of using Samsung's crappy TouchWiz? Is it possible?
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If you wanted a lot of developer love (and namely AOSP love) you should have looked into buying/importing an i9505. Sad, but true. DocRambone has successfully ported the Google stock android OS to the i9500 but is fighting bugs. Though the CM team has announced that they've (or one of them at least) gotten an i9500 and will get CM on it.
It's basically like this:
AOSP love = Qualcomm equipped phones or Nexuses
Of course exynos phones can have AOSP love as well, however since there isn't much reference out for the exynos chip (not a single shred of documentation or useful source), getting AOSP to those devices will be hard. The Nexus 10 tablet has exynos 5, though, but it's a different chipset than the one in the Octa S4. Exynos 5250 is the N10 and 5410 in the S4 and both use very different GPU's.

[Q] Any hope for G900H Custom Rom ?

I looked around in the forum and I saw many discussions from May - April
about a possibility for a future costume Rom on G900H
Is there any update about it ?
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thedarkhermit said:
I looked around in the forum and I saw many discussions from May - April
about a possibility for a future costume Rom on G900H
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Your selection is very limited and not likely to expand much simply because you have a niche device. There are legions more Qualcomm based S5s in use than Exynos. Which also means that few Developers have the H variant and the natural result is a dearth of 900H custom ROMs.
Any decent search would have found dozens and dozens of threads, asking and answering this question. Not to mention the actual ROMs.
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fffft said:
Your selection is very limited and not likely to expand much simply because you have a niche device. There are legions more Qualcomm based S5s in use than Exynos. Which also means that few Developers have the H variant and the natural result is a dearth of 900H custom ROMs.
Any decent search would have found dozens and dozens of threads, asking and answering this question. Not to mention the actual ROMs.
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I Have a g900h phone. I understand in most countries in the Americas peoples use this model. This is a high tech phone and perhaps the reason why most developer have qualcomm is only matter of coincidence.

luisnica98 said:
I Have a g900h phone. I understand in most countries in the Americas peoples use this model. This is a high tech phone and perhaps the reason why most developer have qualcomm is only matter of coincidence.
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You are mistaken. Most countries in the Americas use Qualcomm models e.g.
Canada 900W8
US 900T, 900A, 900V, 900R4, 900P, 900W8, et cetera
Mexico 900M
Brazil 900M
Chile 900M
Columbia 900M
Argentina 900H
In the list above, all of the models are Qualcomm except for Argentina. Only a few South American countries use the Exynos 900H. Since the vast majority of S5 phones in use are Qualcomm based, most developers also own Qualcomm phones as well. And that is the reason why there isn't much 900H custom development.
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FWIW, Venezuela apparently uses the 900H as well.
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i9505 vs i9506 - Which one should I buy?

Hello!
I am about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I have 2 options. For 190€ a normal i9505 (Black Mist) and 215€ for a black edition i9506 (the leather one).
They are both 16GB version so the only difference between them is the model no. and obviously the processor.
Considering the price difference and the hardware, I would buy the i9506 without a doubt! But... there's XDA and development...
I'm not here for that long to be able to tell if the i9506 gets about the same love as the i9505... Performance wise, how they compare to each other?
I want to be able to unlock the bootloader, install recovery, be a flashaholic like I am with my current Galaxy Nexus. I don't need to have like thousands of roms avaiable but I wanted at least the major ones (like CM, Omni, AOSP) to be avaiable and work without a problem. Do I still have that in the i9506? I'm seriously needing help with this, which one should I buy considering this community and kernel+rom avaiability?

diogofd8 said:
Hello!
I am about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I have 2 options. For 190€ a normal i9505 (Black Mist) and 215€ for a black edition i9506 (the leather one).
They are both 16GB version so the only difference between them is the model no. and obviously the processor.
Considering the price difference and the hardware, I would buy the i9506 without a doubt! But... there's XDA and development...
I'm not here for that long to be able to tell if the i9506 gets about the same love as the i9505... Performance wise, how they compare to each other?
I want to be able to unlock the bootloader, install recovery, be a flashaholic like I am with my current Galaxy Nexus. I don't need to have like thousands of roms avaiable but I wanted at least the major ones (like CM, Omni, AOSP) to be avaiable and work without a problem. Do I still have that in the i9506? I'm seriously needing help with this, which one should I buy considering this community and kernel+rom avaiability?
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I also had to face this decision. I eventually chose for the 9506 version. On one side because of the major speed difference. But that's something you already know.
It's true that the 9505 version has more support and more roms available. It will probably last longer in terms of "custom support". But the 9506 doesn't fall behind in these terms. It has less roms, but there still are a few good ones. Also lot of new rom threads are opening, who knows where they will be in a few months. The support of the 9506 is at least better then a few other flagships released than and now.
Besides, if you purely like customization and already have an optimized rom, xposed will give you a lot and only needs root (which will always be there).
For me the choice was easy.

Why exynos variant of note4 is given less love compared to snapdragon? (kernel wise)

As the title says, why? For example N910C only gets close to stock kernels (talexop, h-vitamin, suemaxx) while the snapdragon variant gets super customized kernel (emotion)
@Hani K. the developer of Simplicity Kernel (which is the most customized kernel for n910c, but it is only for lollipop) said that he wants to bring Simplicity Kernel to MM
Until now it is still not happening, what happened?

I am not a dev, but i have the snapdragon version, and from what I've read about both phones, I believe it comes down to 2 factors. First, this one is just an assumption, the snapdragon version was more widely sold.
Second, this is the main reason I've read about, that the 64bit exynos chip is harder, more complicated to build for. Cause snapdragon releases its source code and Samsung doesn't provide good info on their chips.
Don't quote me on this, but that's how i understood it, when i looked into this, myself. Some one can correct me if im wrong.

Yes you totally correct, its all about Samsung releasing the source code for their exynos 5433, if developers had access to this, it would be a lot easier to develop for this chipset.
Edit: Just by the way, Exynos 5433 is 32bit based, however the hardware does support 64, due to the missing source code and the array of new devices, it will never be enabled by Samsung or a third party

Well, I have already clarified why it is taking long, but let's start by answering your question:
I personally don't think Exynos Variant is getting more or less than Snapdragon, both were sent to different parts of the world and both are (or were) getting equal attention which was never the case with the older models. However, the device is more than 2 years old now, most of the developers have already upgraded their devices and started development on their new platforms. For me personally, I have been quite busy with life so far, and my close friends knew that since the day I released SimplRom v5, which is why I have created H-Vitamin kernel. Simplicity kernel requires a lot of time and intensive testing, and I'm a one man brigade in my team when it comes to Exynos department due to it's uniqueness, from developing ROMs and Kernels to Sound mods, theming and development tools that I had to create in order to make my work possible. My biggest constraint is/was time and I couldn't afford that luxury, so I went with what most of the people were looking for, "Simple, Fast and Battery friendly", which is H-Vitamin.
Nevertheless, I have posted an update in SimplRom thread a few hours before you make this thread. Since I've got some free time in my daily routine, I'm planning to update some of my projects and when the time is right, I will upgrade Simplicity to the latest version at that time.

I'm guessing it's due to the fact that the majority of firmware developers are US based and the US variant of the Note 4 tends to use the Snapdragon 805.