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[Q] cyanogenmod exynos status i9500?

Hello,
Moderators, please take it easy on me as I am really confused on the whole matter.
I heard allot about cyanogen not coming to our phones due to Samsung not releasing the Exynos documentation for the I9500.
But yesterday, I read on g+:
"Finally, just a note that Exynos 3 and Exynos 5 devices are not impacted by the information above. The Nexus S allows for a solid Exynos 3 base, and the Nexus 10 for the Exynos 5 base. We have an i9500 in hand and will be working towards bringing the Exynos 5 Octo platform up to release quality as well."
Could one or some of you kind people please answer some questions for me?
1. How will cyanogen release any ROM if no documentation for exynos 5 is released?
2. Have they decided to support rom development since they now have a i9500? I'm just wondering because if they had the nexus 10, wouldn't it have been possible to have started rom development sometime ago? or is it crucial that they first have the device to support it. I don't quite understand how the nexus 10 and the i9500 could be of the same base. whilst they both use exynos, no documentation is released?
3. I hear many people would prefer to stay away from exynos devices in future, and rightfully so, because the lack of documentation. But if cyanogenmod does come to the i9500 would it be right to say that it may have the same fate as the exynos 4 devices in the near future?
4. Would cyanogen support have root triangle and mobile oddin coming to our devices? Yes, I do understand those are entirely different developers, but I'm just hoping something may come of it?
5. Now that cyanogen would make it to the i9500, is it worth getting this phone or should I wait for the i9505? I've heard sound quality, and battery life are quite good on i9500. I do not need LTE at this moment in time.

A question or two...important!

Okay so my Note 2 is sold and I am buying the S4 (I9500) tomorrow or the day after, but I was shocked after going to the Development section! There is no Android Rev HD ROM for I9500 but I9505 version is there! Why?
Also more things are available for I9505, but for I9500 very least amount of mods! Since I used ARHD on my Note 2 I never ever used any other ROM, as it was so fluid (never thought Android could be that smooth!) and never went back to stock ROM! And I hate AOSP ROMs, so if I buy I9500 my option is to stay on Stock ROM now or what?
This could well be a deal breaker for me!

The i9500 is only available in cirtain countries and is isn't very favourable to devs because of all its closed source hardware. It's why cm etc find it a lot harder to develop for. You can get really good stock based ROMs such as omega etc but due to its restricted availability you won't get as many devs for them.
Would still be a really good buy though. Give it time, as contracts get cheaper over time there should be more interest in them

@jujuburi
Hi,
Welcome to the S4 forum.
Please check out the Help Thread for the S4 in my signature.
Senior Member 123hiten had the i9500, and managed to get hold of a i9505.
You might want to talk to him about how he was able to do that.

jujuburi said:
Okay so my Note 2 is sold and I am buying the S4 (I9500) tomorrow or the day after, but I was shocked after going to the Development section! There is no Android Rev HD ROM for I9500 but I9505 version is there! Why?
Also more things are available for I9505, but for I9500 very least amount of mods! Since I used ARHD on my Note 2 I never ever used any other ROM, as it was so fluid (never thought Android could be that smooth!) and never went back to stock ROM! And I hate AOSP ROMs, so if I buy I9500 my option is to stay on Stock ROM now or what?
This could well be a deal breaker for me!
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Yup, that got to me too, unfortunately i didn't do my homework first by checking the development section. One of the main reasons is the CPU chipset, and the amount of people who own the i9505. First it is easier as i understood to work with the snapdragon than the exynos and also most people which includes developers have the i9505 and the ROMs cant work on both devices because o the chipsets.
Now about lag, you dont need to worry, I am still in stock rom rooted and there is DEFINITELY no such thing as lag....runs smooth as butter, but i was still disappointed in the lack of ROMs which I like to flash for fun.

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Future versions of Android?

Hello.
I am currently debating wether or not I should get an Oppo Find 5. As far as I have understood the phone is kind of open to develop for. I guess you people that have one has a better understandning of the situation.
What are your predictions on the phone running future versions of Android? Will it be possible to develop a KitKat rom for the phone? I've heard a lot of people complaining about the software in the phone but I really don't care as long as a relatively clean rom such as AOSP/AOKP is available.
As far as I've understood many Samsung phones for example have been a pain to develop for because of the locked down Exynos? Are there any such problems with the Oppo? Such as Oppo or Qualcomm have the phone locked down in some way? I always believe in the community but I don't like when we have to depend on the manufacturers.
Regards.

Masssy said:
Hello.
I am currently debating wether or not I should get an Oppo Find 5. As far as I have understood the phone is kind of open to develop for. I guess you people that have one has a better understandning of the situation.
What are your predictions on the phone running future versions of Android? Will it be possible to develop a KitKat rom for the phone? I've heard a lot of people complaining about the software in the phone but I really don't care as long as a relatively clean rom such as AOSP/AOKP is available.
As far as I've understood many Samsung phones for example have been a pain to develop for because of the locked down Exynos? Are there any such problems with the Oppo? Such as Oppo or Qualcomm have the phone locked down in some way? I always believe in the community but I don't like when we have to depend on the manufacturers.
Regards.
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Next version of android will for sure also come to this phone. Codefirex has a android 4.3 ROM even with a pure aosp function in it, so yes there is also an aosp rom for find 5 and it shouldn't depend on oppo if a custom 4.4 version is coming or not
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[Q] Is there any Dev's going to do work for the G900H version of this phone?

Id like to find out if there are any custom roms for the G900H or if there is anyone that has one that will be customizing the stock rom etc... Kinda sad that there is no one yet Is it because of the CPU???

Tim34 said:
Id like to find out if there are any custom roms for the G900H or if there is anyone that has one that will be customizing the stock rom etc... Kinda sad that there is no one yet Is it because of the CPU???
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I am also interested in knowing the answer to this question.. infact the s4 exynos has got the custom roms so will this device follow suit?

Dunno.
Seems people are even less interested this time.
S4 had AndreiLux for custom kernels.
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drakester09 said:
Dunno.
Seems people are even less interested this time.
S4 had AndreiLux for custom kernels.
Sent from my SM-G900H using Tapatalk
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I dont believe that the reason is people not interested. I think its matter of time. First,this is the newest version, and also, the most difficult built with 8 different cores.

luisnica98 said:
I dont believe that the reason is people not interested. I think its matter of time. First,this is the newest version, and also, the most difficult built with 8 different cores.
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Number of cores are completely irrelevant to the difficulty of building a kernel for Exynos. It's all about knowing the platform, the capabilities and what you can and cannot do. Which comes with experience...
It's just a matter that Samsung drove away all developers from Exynos. We used to have really talented devs on this side (Entropy512, Codeworkx, among others), but the lack of support from Samsung and lack of sources for Exynos burned them out.
S4 had AndreiLux, who is an excellent dev with tons of knowledge.
N3 has halaszk, which has done a great job and also brought back features from S4's perseus to the N3.
Don't really expect much for this device. It's not a matter of time, N900 (Note 3 Exynos) doesn't has an AOSP rom and it has been several months now.
I will likely build something when I get time, I frankly want to improve a couple of small things and increase GPU clocks to offset for the lower performance compared to the Adreno 330... but it will take a while, thanks to halaszk's work, I know where to poke.

drakester09 said:
Number of cores are completely irrelevant to the difficulty of building a kernel for Exynos. It's all about knowing the platform, the capabilities and what you can and cannot do. Which comes with experience...
It's just a matter that Samsung drove away all developers from Exynos. We used to have really talented devs on this side (Entropy512, Codeworkx, among others), but the lack of support from Samsung and lack of sources for Exynos burned them out.
S4 had AndreiLux, who is an excellent dev with tons of knowledge.
N3 has halaszk, which has done a great job and also brought back features from S4's perseus to the N3.
Don't really expect much for this device. It's not a matter of time, N900 (Note 3 Exynos) doesn't has an AOSP rom and it has been several months now.
I will likely build something when I get time, I frankly want to improve a couple of small things and increase GPU clocks to offset for the lower performance compared to the Adreno 330... but it will take a while, thanks to halaszk's work, I know where to poke.
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Will you only build a kernel or a complete rom?? I just so want stock looking custom rom hahahah

Galaxy S6 Firmware

Hey all, i am thinking of buying a note 4 and in my country they sell both variants the F and the C, I dont care much about custom aosp roms and i would like to ask, the S6 firmware when it comes on what variant it can be ported more easily? If not the whole rom then maybe most of the features?
Thanks

Up!

jasonak0s said:
Up!
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It's possible but I wouldn't expect to see it for some time. First we need the device. Also the Source for said device/kernel. Also the source for your device your porting to. Then there has to be a developer; with both devices, has time to develop, willing to share it, has not left XDA, and is willing to support and fix any problems. Basically flip a coin. Guess heads or tails. That's your answer.

There is a posibility that we'll get the new touchwiz UI in a later update..5.1 maybe.

That is why i am asking, to me as i understand N910C is the more powerful CPU, i don't play many games so for me its my first choice, but in terms of support we all know that the exynos doesn't have any sources, so i am asking if and when the S6 comes, will i get the ported touchwiz hypotheticaly or the snapdragon version is easier way to be ported?