[Q] - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

can i return back from android lollipop 5.0 to kitkat 4.4.2 in galaxy s5???

Yep, use ODIN to flash the stock 4.4.2 from sammobile site

mustafaaljanaby said:
can i return back from android lollipop 5.0 to kitkat 4.4.2 in galaxy s5???
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STOP! If you attempt to flash to a lower boot loader you will brick. That was a huge problem when KK first came out. Folks didn't like it and tried downgrading and bricked. If you Odin flash a ROM tar file, you flash the boot loader. If you are on Lollipop, you are on Android 5.0, and that's the boot loader you're stuck with.

jdsingle76 said:
STOP! If you attempt to flash to a lower boot loader you will brick. That was a huge problem when KK first came out. Folks didn't like it and tried downgrading and bricked. If you Odin flash a ROM tar file, you flash the boot loader. If you are on Lollipop, you are on Android 5.0, and that's the boot loader you're stuck with.
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Edit: I was informed that the S5 doesn't have the same downgrading issues as the S3 had, so I was mistaken. I have been told you can downgrade bootloaders on the S5...But please do so at your own risk and do a backup!

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Help Downgrading....

Hey Guys,
So here is the deal; A few months ago I was happily enjoying my Note 3 rooted and customized the way I wanted. Something ended up happening, and long story short I ended up with a phone running 5.0 lollipop. I absolutely hate this update of android and it has caused many problems on my phone. I am looking for either a way to root 5.0, or downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.2. I have tried downgrading several different ways, but end up at the same error of "SW rev check fail fused 4 binary 3"
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
you cannot downgrade from 5.0 to 4.2 you can downgrade from 4.4.4 but you still wont have root. there is no root method out for 5.0 for note 3.
Thanks!
So could I downgrade to 4.4.4, and then go down to 4.4.2 from there?
no. you cannot your stuck at 4.4.4 some people choose 4.4. then 5.0..
simplyeorange said:
no. you cannot your stuck at 4.4.4 some people choose 4.4. then 5.0..
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I'm on 5.0 and hate it. Battery life is half what is was on 4.4.4 and it freezes for a sec all the time.
I'm am not rooted - can I go back to stock 4.4.4? That was at least better than this 5.0 crap.
Yeah you can go back to 4.4.4 I've read post of people on this forum saying they were able to get back to 4.4.4 you need to download the stock tar. Which you can find on sammobile than boot into download mode and then open Odin flash the stock tar. After its done flashing Then boot into stock recovery and do factory data reset. Wait about 5-10mins and should boot you into 4.4.4

downgrade bootloader form 5.1.1H to 5.0.1H

i install bootloader SM-N910H_WanamLite.OH4_BL_Modem.tar.zip on Sweet ROM V14 BOE3 5.0.1H rom
now my note loop on bootloader , how can downgrade bootloader?
i search in google for bootloader 5.0.1 but i dont find any files .
sorry for my bad English
windows7 said:
i install bootloader SM-N910H_WanamLite.OH4_BL_Modem.tar.zip on Sweet ROM V14 BOE3 5.0.1H rom
now my note loop on bootloader , how can downgrade bootloader?
i search in google for bootloader 5.0.1 but i dont find any files .
sorry for my bad English
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Did you take the OH4 update or flash that tar? I'm on Sprint OG5, and I know once you take the 5.1.1 update or tar you are stuck with the 5.1.1 bootloader and 5.1.1 roms. I odin'd a special tar that an xda member put together that had the 5.0.1 bootloader but updated everything else to 5.1.1 which lets me flash anything from 4.4.4-5.1.1. The 5.1.1 bootloader locks you in place.
So if you took the 5.1.1 OTA update or flashed a stock 5.1.1 tar through Odin than you can only flash 5.1.1 roms. There is no going back to 5.0.1 or 4.4.4.
Hello, Death-Dealer.
Could you please post that special .tar file you mentioned above? I'm in need to downgrade my phone too...
Thanks in advance.

downgrade lollipop to jellybean?

is it possible to downgrade lollipop stock rom to stock jellybean?or do i need to downgrade first to kitkat stock before downgrading to jellybean?i want to do this because i have apps that i used when im on jellybean which is not compatible with kitkat and lollipop.
Using Odin you should be able to downgrade directly to Android 4.3
You will have to do a factory reset in recovery.
I did my factory reset after downgrading the firmware, but guessing you could do it before the downgrade and then not have to worry about the auto-reboot in Odin.
Hi
I have a problem during flashing from 4.4.2 to 4.3. After start the process fails by aboot.mbn. If I remove the file aboot.mbn in the md5-package and start the process again, it works. The mobile flashs back to 4.3, but it hasn't sound and I can't record Video or Soundmemo. Please help! I don't what to do.
I'm looking forward.
Best wishes
Aboot.mbn is the bootloader. You cannot flash a 4.3 bootloader over a 4.4.2 bootloader.
audit13 said:
Aboot.mbn is the bootloader. You cannot flash a 4.3 bootloader over a 4.4.2 bootloader.
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Is there any way to go around the bootloader? Would it help to flash lollipop 5.0.1 and then to flash back to jelly bean 4.3 or the lollipop has a bootloader locker too.
Thank's so much!!
There is no way to downgrade the bootloader to 4.3 once the phone has been flashed with 4.4.2 or newer. This applies to many Samsung phones including the s3, note 3, note 4, etc.
audit13 said:
There is no way to downgrade the bootloader to 4.3 once the phone has been flashed with 4.4.2 or newer. This applies to many Samsung phones including the s3, note 3, note 4, etc.
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I flashed my S3 from 4.4.4 to 4.3 and tab 3 from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2 without any problems...why it doesn't works on S4?
Are you sure that the ROM you used to downgrade included a bootloader?
For the s3, it may be possible to go to a 4.3 bootloader as there was no bootloader after 4.4.2 but I'm not 100% sure. I have no idea about the tab.
audit13 said:
Are you sure that the ROM you used to downgrade included a bootloader?
For the s3, it may be possible to go to a 4.3 bootloader as there was no bootloader after 4.4.2 but I'm not 100% sure. I have no idea about the tab.
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Hi,
yes, there were one. I've rolled my s4 back to 4.3 now, but I have no sound in it...What can I do?
I'm looking forward.
Best wishes.
You installed the 4.3 bootloader too? You may want to run Samsung Phone Info from the play store to confirm.
audit13 said:
You installed the 4.3 bootloader too? You may want to run Samsung Phone Info from the play store to confirm.
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I'm not sure. I removed the file aboot.mbn and converted the md5 archive to tar archive and finaly flashed my s4. It works, but there's only no sound in thy system.
Dr Goodvibes said:
Using Odin you should be able to downgrade directly to Android 4.3
You will have to do a factory reset in recovery.
I did my factory reset after downgrading the firmware, but guessing you could do it before the downgrade and then not have to worry about the auto-reboot in Odin.
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I'm not able to downgrade it from lollipop too. I haven't the option to unlock the oem in the developer options
The OEM unlock bootloader option is only useful where a phone has a locked bootloader. In the case of your s4, the bootloader is not locked and cannot be downgraded.
The aboot.mbn file is the bootloader and removing it means the phone is running a 4.3 ROM on a 4.4.2 bootloader. This is probably why not every works properly.
audit13 said:
The OEM unlock bootloader option is only useful where a phone has a locked bootloader. In the case of your s4, the bootloader is not locked and cannot be downgraded.
The aboot.mbn file is the bootloader and removing it means the phone is running a 4.3 ROM on a 4.4.2 bootloader. This is probably why not every works properly.
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How can I solve this problem?
You can solve the sound problem by flashing a newer ROM.
You cannot downgrade the bootloader and trying to downgrade may brick the phone by damaging the bootloader.
audit13 said:
You can solve the sound problem by flashing a newer ROM.
You cannot downgrade the bootloader and trying to downgrade may brick the phone by damaging the bootloader.
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Why it worked with tab 3 and s3? I saw many videos on youtube, there rolled guys the system back...Well, Ithink it's my fate to have the kitkat. I hate this system.
The s3 and Tab 3 are totally different items. Being able to downgrade a bootloader on one device does not automatically mean every bootloader in a company's product line can be downgraded.
Have you tried running a custom ROM on the phone? You may find those more palatable.
audit13 said:
The s3 and Tab 3 are totally different items. Being able to downgrade a bootloader on one device does not automatically mean every bootloader in a company's product line can be downgraded.
Have you tried running a custom ROM on the phone? You may find those more palatable.
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Can I flash for example cyangenmod 12 and then flash android 4.3?
There is no way to run a completely stock 4.3 ROM, including the bootloader, on the s4 once it has been upgraded to 4.4.2 or 5.01.
audit13 said:
There is no way to run a completely stock 4.3 ROM, including the bootloader, on the s4 once it has been upgraded to 4.4.2 or 5.01.
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In 2013 there were S4 with 4.2.2. Why I can't roll my system back?

Install Custom Recovery Samsung Galaxy AT&T S4 SGH-I337 Ver 5.0.1 Non-Rooted. OK2

Install Custom Recovery Samsung Galaxy AT&T S4 SGH-I337 Ver 5.0.1 Non-Rooted. OK2
Hello, I Want to do some modifications to my Samsung Galaxy S4 and Have so many questions that I am not sure were to start? Yes I'm a noob but learning. I have a SGH-I337 phone that is unlocked so I use it for T-mobile. The phone came with KitKat 4.4.2 NB1 firmware but I managed to update it manually to the latest firmware OK2.
What I would like to do is install a custom recovery and install a clean non bloated Rom. Maybe a custom such as CyanogenMod? Questions: Is there any recovery software that will work on my present upgraded phone such as Safestrap, TWARP,PhilZ or CWM and in doing so I am guessing I need to root my phone first? When you root a phone does that unlock the boot loader? I have read articles saying you can only install custom recovery on the older firmware such as kitkat 4.4.2. or unless a update comes out. I also have read articles that I cannot downgrade and am not sure what that means as I have read articles that I can use Odin and reinstall my stock firmware NB1 is that true? Is there a way to downgrade your upgrades?
I see a lot of articles how to install recovery software but they do not always say what firmware version they are installing it to so I wont even try it. I am guessing-it is the older firmware 4.4.2.
I have read I can flash my kernel to an older Kernel such as NB1 then root it install a custom recovery then upgrade the kernel again? Not sure it I can upgrade or downgrade kernels that are for my phone?
I did manage to root my phone awhile back when it had kitkat 4.4.2 NB1 but had problems later on with my touch screen going crazy as if someone was in my phone so I brought it back to stock by using Odin and reinstalling NB1 firmware hoping to fix the problem. After installing stock firmware I decided to upgrade to lollipop 5.0.1 OB2 and that is were I am now. About my touch screen going crazy I have been reading it may be due to cheap USB chargers which I am using but that is another story.
Well any-help or leads would be appreciated.
Maybe if I wait long enough someone will come up with a custom ROM for my latest firmware as well as rooting it?
Steve

Can you downgrade directly from marshmallow to kit Kat?

I'm on Phoenix rom on 6.0. 1 and I'm sick of the weird path name it gives the external SD card. It messes with link2sd and my Manga Reader. I was wondering if I can simply flash a kit Kat rom on miui without ruining anything...
no
So I'll have to go back to stock first via Odin?
raylgo said:
So I'll have to go back to stock first via Odin?
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you cant do that either. Once you progress past 5.0, youre stuck
I directly downgraded to 4.4 with my G900W8. However, you need to be careful with which version you are going to flash. For example, when I flashed any other 4.4 firmware than NCG (Which is the first version of 4.4 released for G900W8), I faced bootloop.
panda6024 said:
I directly downgraded to 4.4 with my G900W8. However, you need to be careful with which version you are going to flash. For example, when I flashed any other 4.4 firmware than NCG (Which is the first version of 4.4 released for G900W8), I faced bootloop.
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there is a physical fuse that gets tripped in the S5 once you go past 5.0 that is there to no allow you to go back. Not sure if you were on a 4.4 bootloader that allowed you to do this or what, but trying to flash back to 4.4 after being on a 5.0 baseband is very ill advised
I don't think you can down grade to kit kat, but you can go from marshmallow to lollipop. I just did it last weekend. Check this...https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
I hope it helps you.
Actually i can downgrade anytime from MM to LP or LP to KK
but i didnt tried MM to KK yet.... tried it many times it works.. unlocked G900F
Edit: im talking about stock rom btw (from sammobile)
dotgeo said:
Actually i can downgrade anytime from MM to LP or LP to KK
but i didnt tried MM to KK yet.... tried it many times it works.. unlocked G900F
Edit: im talking about stock rom btw (from sammobile)
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then you dont have a MM bootloader. I just re-read some posts that confirm that the phone locks to 5.0 once you get that bootloader. Its not possible to go back, and it doesnt matter if you have the G900F or not
youdoofus said:
there is a physical fuse that gets tripped in the S5 once you go past 5.0 that is there to no allow you to go back. Not sure if you were on a 4.4 bootloader that allowed you to do this or what, but trying to flash back to 4.4 after being on a 5.0 baseband is very ill advised
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Then if there is a physical fuse, why was I able to downgrade from MM to KK? One difference when I downgraded from MM to KK NCG was that "Powered by Android" logo was changed to old style. I think NCG build of KitKat changed bootloader from MM one to KK one. Baseband wise, I also flashed KK baseband and it worked very well. It might be different on G900F but with my G900W8 I could go back to KK.
panda6024 said:
Then if there is a physical fuse, why was I able to downgrade from MM to KK? One difference when I downgraded from MM to KK NCG was that "Powered by Android" logo was changed to old style. I think NCG build of KitKat changed bootloader from MM one to KK one. Baseband wise, I also flashed KK baseband and it worked very well. It might be different on G900F but with my G900W8 I could go back to KK.
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not sure, but ive had my G900P for 2 years 10 months and have been constantly on XDA since my OG evo back in the day (the one with the kickstand) and everything ive ever read saya that once you go past 5.0, you cant go back. Not sure what you have going on there, but there are tons of posts going back several years stating exactly this
Of course you can downgrade to kk.
Just download the kk firmwafe. Pull out battery for 5 sec. Then flash trough odin. Did it mant times and no problem with that.
i did that on my galaxy s5 and it works

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