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Anyone else having insane charge times?

I just finally got my phone to die after a lot of use from 10 hours of music, 3 hours of web browsing/facebook, 1 hour of modern combat 4, and a crap load of texting and calls. Well when i plugged it in its charging really fast. I seem to get about 5-8% per minute. is something off or is this just really quick at charging.
EditL ok it took about 30 minutes to a full charge.....

The Samsung charger that comes with the phone has a new chip that charges the phone at 2A so it will be quicker. If you use a different cord it'll go back to being slow.

Yeah I absolutely love this charger. Quickest charge ever.
Sent from my Galaxy S4

Its insane with how it is. on my SIII i used my old Palm Pre charger (old phone i use to have haha i miss the OS of it) but all my other cords got loose and fell out easy but for that cord. I was use to like a 2 hour charge and some wall outlets it would be 3 hours. this is insane for a 30 min charge haha and lasts all day for me.

It's the new Qualcomm Quick Charge technology.

rushco said:
The Samsung charger that comes with the phone has a new chip that charges the phone at 2A so it will be quicker. If you use a different cord it'll go back to being slow.
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the tricky thing is you also have to use the USB cord they provided as well...the old usb cord in the new 2A adapter won't work
if you notice, it is thicker to handle the extra charge

eyecon82 said:
the tricky thing is you also have to use the USB cord they provided as well...the old usb cord in the new 2A adapter won't work
if you notice, it is thicker to handle the extra charge
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I'm going to run a few tests using other cords (monoprice, belkin, and a couple others and I will update this thread in a couple days with the amp charge. My hypothesis is that the monoprice cables with a thicker wire gauge will be able to handle the charge but until I run proper tests I won't know.
Oh a question I had for any owners is if anyone's galaxy is getting super hot when charging?

rushco said:
The Samsung charger that comes with the phone has a new chip that charges the phone at 2A so it will be quicker. If you use a different cord it'll go back to being slow.
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Are you guys sure about this? Qualcomm's site says it's their integrated chipset that facilitates the quick charge, not the cables.
Quick Charge 1.0 makes all this is available to the user with existing USB charging accessories—no new cables and wall chargers to buy.
Quick Charge 1.0 is offered to our customers as an integrated solution (as part of the PMIC, or power management integrated circuit) and
a standalone solution that interfaces to the USB connector. Any phone or tablet’s charging port can be enabled with Quick Charge.
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sublimeike said:
Are you guys sure about this? Qualcomm's site says it's their integrated chipset that facilitates the quick charge, not the cables.
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It's the chipset working in combination with a compatible charger. Using a regular charger will work, but charge times will be longer. The "cables" don't have anything to do with it actually. The guy from anandtech did a write up and charge time comparisons in the second section of their review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/2

kyhassen said:
Its insane with how it is. on my SIII i used my old Palm Pre charger (old phone i use to have haha i miss the OS of it) but all my other cords got loose and fell out easy but for that cord. I was use to like a 2 hour charge and some wall outlets it would be 3 hours. this is insane for a 30 min charge haha and lasts all day for me.
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I finally retired my Pre for the S4.
The usb cable shouldn't matter, as long as it is in the Samsung Charger.

Pheonix28 said:
I finally retired my Pre for the S4.
The usb cable shouldn't matter, as long as it is in the Samsung Charger.
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I loved that phone. Great OS, sad it didn't go further.
@Powerbird As for charging for me it does not get hot for me, a little warm but that's it. It was only on day one of getting it which weird.
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Same as kyhassen here first day phone charger and cord got extremely hot when I first fully charged it. It ran 1day 15hours and am presently charging it and its not hot anymore. The charger was warm at first now it has cooled down that its at 92% I love that it charges really fast and will see how long it last this time.

You guys should have owned the HTC One, One of the reasons I left that phone was because of the 4.5 hour charge time. Ridiculous. Thank God the S4 is way better in that regard.

coojoe1000 said:
You guys should have owned the HTC One, One of the reasons I left that phone was because of the 4.5 hour charge time. Ridiculous. Thank God the S4 is way better in that regard.
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That's better than how the sgsiii was. Mine took 6-9 hours to charge

eyecon82 said:
That's better than how the sgsiii was. Mine took 6-9 hours to charge
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It did take a while. But I used a palm pre charger and it was like 3 hours. If i used a aftermarket cord I had it was 12 hours
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Im using my note 2 charger and it seem slow charging compared to how fast my note 2 charged. Haven't tried the s4 charger cuz I thought they was the same (2amps). Is there a difference
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I just went to plug my phone into the charger and found this!
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Holy crap! I have mine charging now and I had check it. It's a little warm but it luckily it still doesn't have any holes in it.
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thisguyinoc said:
I just went to plug my phone into the charger and found this!
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WTF!
I am not getting anywhere near 30 minutes. My first charge from dead to 100% with the phone off was about 2.5 hours. I am charging it right now from dead and it has been going for about an hour about 75% done. Wonder if I have a defective charger or cable? Will try a different cable to test first.

thisguyinoc said:
I just went to plug my phone into the charger and found this!
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crawrj said:
WTF!
I am not getting anywhere near 30 minutes. My first charge from dead to 100% with the phone off was about 2.5 hours. I am charging it right now from dead and it has been going for about an hour about 75% done. Wonder if I have a defective charger or cable? Will try a different cable to test first.
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same here man

AC charger, is yours 2.0Amps?

I'm really curious why people are saying their Note 3 charges so much faster than the Note II. I'm experiencing identical charging speed for my Korean Galaxy Note 3.
With an external changing case with the included 2A charger that came with the Note 3, I can go to 5% to 100% in exactly 2.5 hours consistently.
Through the USB port 3.0 on my computer, and since the USB 3.0 mode doesn't stay on for more than 10 minutes while idle, the charging is painfully slow through the USB 3.0 port. It'll probably have to go 8 hours.
I haven't tried it but, I'm guessing charging from the AC while the phone is on is going to similar to what I was getting on the Note 2, which is around 3.5 hours.
Are any of you getting different/same results? I'd love to know how many amps is your charger. The Korean Galaxy Note 3 came with a charger that had the 5 pin micro USB cable hardwired into it and it says 2.0A

Lucidmike said:
I'm really curious why people are saying their Note 3 charges so much faster than the Note II. I'm experiencing identical charging speed for my Korean Galaxy Note 3.
With an external changing case with the included 2A charger that came with the Note 3, I can go to 5% to 100% in exactly 2.5 hours consistently.
Through the USB port 3.0 on my computer, and since the USB 3.0 mode doesn't stay on for more than 10 minutes while idle, the charging is painfully slow through the USB 3.0 port. It'll probably have to go 8 hours.
I haven't tried it but, I'm guessing charging from the AC while the phone is on is going to similar to what I was getting on the Note 2, which is around 3.5 hours.
Are any of you getting different/same results? I'd love to know how many amps is your charger. The Korean Galaxy Note 3 came with a charger that had the 5 pin micro USB cable hardwired into it and it says 2.0A
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My Charger is 2.0A. It's a travel adapter with a USB port on it. It definitely charges a lot faster than when connected to the PC but my PC isn't USB3 so it's not quite a fair comparison. I'm actually wondering about the travel adapter as its USB port isn't blue so I wonder if it's USB3 or not, or if that makes a difference.
I'm curious, what do you mean by "USB 3.0 mode doesn't stay on for more than 10 minutes"?

Note3 charges more or less same speed as note2 for me.

The charger that it comes with is slightly higher than the standard 5 volts.
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A person at one of those phone kiosks actually told me the Note 3 comes with a 3AMP charger because it has 3GB of RAM!

cpufrost said:
A person at one of those phone kiosks actually told me the Note 3 comes with a 3AMP charger because it has 3GB of RAM!
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If I facepalm any harder, my hand will pierce through my skull.

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If I facepalm any harder, my hand will pierce through my skull.
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That could start a war...
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Scary to think how many people not knowing better get told such bad info...

My charger is 2.0 amps also as for usb3 charge I got a latest Asus motherboard that in a specific usb3 port gives 2amps so usb charging is same for me in there.
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My ATT version GN3 came with 5.3V 2.0A charger that looks exactly like my wife's S4 5.0V 2.0A charger. Her cable is standard mirco-usb and the GN3 is 3.0 micro-usb.

My charger that came with the phone is 2.0A & 5.0V.
It charges (draws current) at 1,200 mah
When it reaches 100% charge, it draws 1,800 mah.

He doesn't know what he is saying...! Note 3 comes with 3Amp charger because its NOTE --》3《-- !!! Note 2 had 2 Amp charger and next year note 4 will have 4! Amp charger....
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Now seriously..... Did you punch him in his face when he said that...?? Please say yees.. :banghead:
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Yup
2.0A, 5.3V

Viptr said:
He doesn't know what he is saying...! Note 3 comes with 3Amp charger because its NOTE --》3《-- !!! Note 2 had 2 Amp charger and next year note 4 will have 4! Amp charger....
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I second this ridiculous statement!

my note 3 also charges at 1.2A with either usb3 or usb2 cable (from my note 2). My note 2 charged at 1.8A...I'm not seeing any faster-charging benefits...I used the galaxy charging current app to measure.

really? current draw increases after 100% charge
CorruptedSanity said:
My charger that came with the phone is 2.0A & 5.0V.
It charges (draws current) at 1,200 mah
When it reaches 100% charge, it draws 1,800 mah.
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Did you reverse these numbers or does the current draw actually INCREASE
after the device reaches 100% charge?
~~~ 8d:-] Dan

SaintDanBert said:
Did you reverse these numbers or does the current draw actually INCREASE
after the device reaches 100% charge?
~~~ 8d:-] Dan
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What do you mean reverse?

Im using a usb voltage/ampere tester adapter which sits in between charger and usb cable.
I can safely say that my original charger with cable charges at 1.8amp. And yes, the voltage is noticably higher than other usb chargers for some reason.
Please do note than delivering 2amp power requires good quality cable. I have tested 3 different cables (original, flat & retractable) with same original charger and the ampere difference is huge. (1.8a, 0.8a, 0.6a).

I noticed that when using the "Galaxy Charging Current Lite", if I refresh while it has been on for awhile I get 1200 if the screen is off and then quickly turn on and refresh I get 1800. I assume the 600 drop is due to the screen being on?

tablighs said:
Im using a usb voltage/ampere tester adapter which sits in between charger and usb cable.
I can safely say that my original charger with cable charges at 1.8amp. And yes, the voltage is noticably higher than other usb chargers for some reason.
Please do note than delivering 2amp power requires good quality cable. I have tested 3 different cables (original, flat & retractable) with same original charger and the ampere difference is huge. (1.8a, 0.8a, 0.6a).
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Thanks for this detailed response.
Would you kindly try this app:
Galaxy Charging Current Lite
I am constantly getting 1,200.

ItsMeOk said:
I noticed that when using the "Galaxy Charging Current Lite", if I refresh while it has been on for awhile I get 1200 if the screen is off and then quickly turn on and refresh I get 1800. I assume the 600 drop is due to the screen being on?
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seems fair.. maybe its needed to not force the battery when its charging and using charge...

So the Z3C does charge pretty fast...if you use a different charger

I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note charger with mine because I ordered from UK and North American sockets are different.
Anyway, the phone charges fast, despite what reviews say, I'm just a bit concerned that it could be affecting my battery's life or something.

how long does it take to charge it? can you take a picture of the charger so we can read the description of the output?

janedoe5000 said:
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note charger with mine because I ordered from UK and North American sockets are different.
Anyway, the phone charges fast, despite what reviews say, I'm just a bit concerned that it could be affecting my battery's life or something.
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What's the Ampere output on your Note charger? It should be printed on the side

tonkemaskin said:
What's the Ampere output on your Note charger? It should be printed on the side
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The Galaxy Note 3 charger is 2A. I tried a Nexus 10 fake charger (2A verified, uses 15W from wall socket @2A with the Nexus 10 to provide 5V/2A (10W, not measured)) while Sony original 1.5A charger uses 9.3W to provide 5V/1.5A (7.5W, not measured). Connecting the Nexus 10 charger to the Xperia Z3 compact it uses only 9.4W so it only take 1.5A or less even with an high gauge USB cable.
Therefore I would say that the phone never uses more than 1.5A no matter what's the charger.
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I'm just a bit concerned that it could be affecting my battery's life or something.
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Usually LiPo/Li-ion batteries support 1C charge without problem (as long as the charger slows down at the end). The capacity of the Xperia battery is 2600mAh, therefore 1C would be 2.6A, with a 2.1A or 2A charger you encounter absolutely no risk. Also even using an higher current charger, every phone (with a lithium based battery) integrates a charge regulator which will limit the maximum current according to their specifications. Therefore higher amperage is not a problem as higher voltage would be, it's more the highest current the charger CAN provide, not it actually provides.

It will charge even quicker, as the phone(Z3 and Z3 Compact) is Quick Charge 2.0 certified, you will just need to get a charger that is Quick charge 2.0 certified as well (i.e. Moto Turbo Charger). Feasibly, it could be charged in 45 mintues form 0-100%.
The charger will be my next purchase.

Not sure what's considered fast or slow when it comes to charging, but just using a generic USB charger with wall plug-in adaptor (as I do with all my phones without issue), I'm fully charged after a complete drain in about 2 hours. However, if there is some magical charger that can do this in 45 mins, I would totally invest in that!

boojay said:
Not sure what's considered fast or slow when it comes to charging, but just using a generic USB charger with wall plug-in adaptor (as I do with all my phones without issue), I'm fully charged after a complete drain in about 2 hours. However, if there is some magical charger that can do this in 45 mins, I would totally invest in that!
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4...ers-75-percent-faster-charging-snapdragon-800

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4...ers-75-percent-faster-charging-snapdragon-800
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Nice. I'm assuming there must be an 801 variant. Let us know how well it works when you do get one. For now I don't mind the slower charge since I leave my phone plugged in overnight, but I can forsee occasions where I would need a speedier solution.

You could use any tablet usb charger, they charge faster

Is magnet port charging faster that mini usb charging?

unk3 said:
Is magnet port charging faster that mini usb charging?
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I get about 900-1100 mAh with my magnetic charger. It takes about 2.5 hours to charge my device.

So youre saying that the Magnet Charger is significantly (33%) slower than the Micro Usb? Lame...

Yup. it's more of a convenience factor. I dislike opening the side panels and I usually just charge overnight w/ the dock (which also charges at the same rate).

zoome9 said:
I get about 900-1100 mAh with my magnetic charger. It takes about 2.5 hours to charge my device.
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Seems to be a standard charging time

difto said:
Seems to be a standard charging time
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I thought unk3 was maybe referencing a quick charger? The only thing aside from the quick charge that charged faster, was Samsung's. I think my old S5 was getting 1800mAh.

zoome9 said:
I thought unk3 was maybe referencing a quick charger? The only thing aside from the quick charge that charged faster, was Samsung's. I think my old S5 was getting 1800mAh.
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I think he was referencing 900-1100mAh vs. 1500mAh of the stock charger. So to correct it there is absolutely no difference from a technical point of view between USB or magnetic port, there are not more less losses assuming the quality of the cable is the same, it is just a different plug. The magnet only holds the plug, the connection is wired and not inductive therefore efficiency is.the same.

there can be a difference, because magnetic port does not have the 2 additional pins that phones like to use to identify the maximum current they can draw from the charger, so...

yozas said:
there can be a difference, because magnetic port does not have the 2 additional pins that phones like to use to identify the maximum current they can draw from the charger, so...
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This is Apple BS to explain the incompatibility of their iPhone with most chargers on the market at the time. The phone does not need to identify the charger max amperage at all,the charger is simply a 5V DC power supply with a defined max amperage like a wall outlet provides 110V or 220V AC at max 10/16/20/32A. The charging circuit of the phone does all the job: transform 5V to 4.2V and then regulates the amperage going to the battery at constant voltage. There is a difference with a wall outlet though, if the rating is lower than what the phone requests then the charge will simply be longer and the charger will not burn (at least if it is lawful).

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This is Apple BS to explain the incompatibility of their iPhone with most chargers on the market at the time.
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Apple has their own strategy with chargers, it is a mix of marketing and truth, however this case is really not marketing, it's just how it works.
The phone does not need to identify the charger max amperage at all
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It definitely does need to, that is, if you want your phone to draw more than 500mA. USB standard does not allow a device to draw more than 500mA from the port, and all phones conform to that. That's why it charges slowly if you plug your mobile phone into a computers USB port, the internal charger circuitry inside the phone limits the maximum current "ceiling" that it will try to draw to mere 500mA.
the charger is simply a 5V DC power supply with a defined max amperage like a wall outlet provides 110V or 220V AC at max 10/16/20/32A.
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You are correct on the defined max amperage part. Every DC power supply has it's maximum current limit, just like ordinary computer USB port (which can supply max 500mA, if you step higher than that, the current overload protection in the computer shuts the port down (and windows will give you an error about a power surge on USB port X). That's precisely why a phone must identify if the power supply that it is connected to can give higher than 500mA current, as to not overload it.
The charging circuit of the phone does all the job: transform 5V to 4.2V and then regulates the amperage going to the battery at constant voltage.
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Correct
There is a difference with a wall outlet though, if the rating is lower than what the phone requests then the charge will simply be longer and the charger will not burn (at least if it is lawful).
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Yeah, many cheap ones will overheat (shorten the lifespan of electrolytic capacitors, etc) and even burn. And even some that are not cheap will burn. Others will be periodically shutting down by internal thermal protection, then turning on again after it cools down, this is not good either.
If you use a magnetic charger then the phone loses the ability to identify if it's connected to a computers USB port, or a charger that can supply more than 500mA. And in this case it will stay on the safe side and will not try to draw more than 500mA (charge slower) from the port.
As for the identification, you can check that pins 2 and 3 are shorted in the charger's USB port, that is how the phone "knows" that it is connected to a charger with high current ability. You can get some spare USB cable and make an experiment, cut the wires that go from pins 2 and 3, and you will see that the phone will limit the current to 500mA.

yozas said:
Apple has their own strategy with chargers, it is a mix of marketing and truth, however this case is really not marketing, it's just how it works.
It definitely does need to, that is, if you want your phone to draw more than 500mA. USB standard does not allow a device to draw more than 500mA from the port, and all phones conform to that. That's why it charges slowly if you plug your mobile phone into a computers USB port, the internal charger circuitry inside the phone limits the maximum current "ceiling" that it will try to draw to mere 500mA.
You are correct on the defined max amperage part. Every DC power supply has it's maximum current limit, just like ordinary computer USB port (which can supply max 500mA, if you step higher than that, the current overload protection in the computer shuts the port down (and windows will give you an error about a power surge on USB port X). That's precisely why a phone must identify if the power supply that it is connected to can give higher than 500mA current, as to not overload it.
Correct
Yeah, many cheap ones will overheat (shorten the lifespan of electrolytic capacitors, etc) and even burn. And even some that are not cheap will burn. Others will be periodically shutting down by internal thermal protection, then turning on again after it cools down, this is not good either.
If you use a magnetic charger then the phone loses the ability to identify if it's connected to a computers USB port, or a charger that can supply more than 500mA. And in this case it will stay on the safe side and will not try to draw more than 500mA (charge slower) from the port.
As for the identification, you can check that pins 2 and 3 are shorted in the charger's USB port, that is how the phone "knows" that it is connected to a charger with high current ability. You can get some spare USB cable and make an experiment, cut the wires that go from pins 2 and 3, and you will see that the phone will limit the current to 500mA.
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Experiment done: I beg to differ, the phone draws 1.5A from the magnetic port, see attached picture (it is the current drawn from a 2S battery at 7.62V so roughly 1.5A at 5V. Also this circuit can provide 2A at 5V which means that the phone never draws more than 1.5A no matter what the charger is.
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The fact that data lines only indicates it is a charger and not a computer, data lines at not shorted but connected to a certain resistance function of the amperage of the charger if they follow the apple scheme.

Quick Charger 2.0 not working on Z2

Hi guys,
I have an D6543 (Brazilian Model), there is no difference between D6503.
I checked the Qualcomm website a lot of times, and Z2 is in compatibility list: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/devices/all?feature=Quick Charge 2.0
So, I purchase the Tenergy Quick Charger 2.0 at Amazon, and for my surprise, it's not working at all. Only normal charging.
I tested at 1%, and in 30 minutes only 11% was charged, VERY, VERY slow.
The light indication at charger is saying that is on normal charging.
I'm really frustrated.

Fastcharging is disabled on xperias for safety
Charging should be between 1-5 hours even without fastcharge

My z2 only take around 2 hours to fully charge from 1%. Just using the stock plug charger.
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yuskhayru said:
My z2 only take around 2 hours to fully charge from 1%. Just using the stock plug charger.
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I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.

Envious_Data said:
I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.
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i dont know about it, but ive charged my z2 several times from 1% to 100% only take 2 hours - 2 hours and 30 minute. And yes, i've heard people charged thier z2 atleast 4hours to completly fully charged from 1%. My phone is still standard, under warranty(havent mod anything yet and still unrooted).

Envious_Data said:
I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.
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I don't know why. Z2 has the Snapdragon 801, which is compatible with Quick Charger 2.0, as Z1 was compatible with QC 1.0.
LG G3 also has the 801, but LG does not enable the QC, that's why it is not at Qualcomm's website. It's weird, because Z2 was recently added to the list, and the main product page says it's compatible.
In the end, I just lost money because their poor support and information.

yuskhayru said:
i dont know about it, but ive charged my z2 several times from 1% to 100% only take 2 hours - 2 hours and 30 minute. And yes, i've heard people charged thier z2 atleast 4hours to completly fully charged from 1%. My phone is still standard, under warranty(havent mod anything yet and still unrooted).
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As said its pointless trying to increase the charging rate
I learned when pushing it past 1500mAh it starts to damage the device usb port and
battery
victormartins said:
I don't know why. Z2 has the Snapdragon 801, which is compatible with Quick Charger 2.0, as Z1 was compatible with QC 1.0.
LG G3 also has the 801, but LG does not enable the QC, that's why it is not at Qualcomm's website. It's weird, because Z2 was recently added to the list, and the main product page says it's compatible.
In the end, I just lost money because their poor support and information.
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Not exactly poor support, if its safe to use and certified safe to use sony would have put it in the features list on their website but it wasnt there when i bought the phone nor when i last checked.
As said check my reply
The device charges at as fast as it safely can with the factory provided charger

I'm using envi rom.
I have a normal 2,2A usb charger.
When I use the usb port to charge i have really slow (6h from 0 to full charge) to reasonable charge time (3h from 0 to 100) depending on the used cable.
But when I use the magnetic aftermarket cable than I get insane charge time, only the last 10% from 90 to 100 is not fast but it certainly uses 2A as it is from 0 to 90% in about 90 minutes.
The phone gets slightly warm but far from the temperature it gets with intensive usage and the magnetic connection gets warm too, but nothing alarming imo.
The full metal and glass design makes heat diffuse very fast.

That sucks I'm coming from a one plus one and the charger was very fast.

Envious_Data said:
Not exactly poor support, if its safe to use and certified safe to use sony would have put it in the features list on their website but it wasnt there when i bought the phone nor when i last checked.
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Qualcomm states it does!
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2

I'm using some chineese quick charger 2.1A and it charges 27% in 38min.
Sent from Xperia Z2

Xperia Z2 and Z3 supports Quick Charge 2.0.
You need charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0, though.
http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/223/223383/
This site is in Japanese, but it says you'll get 13W when you charge with charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0 and with normal charger you'll get 10W.
Normal charging is already fast enough, so you won't notice big difference.

AndroPlus said:
http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/223/223383/
This site is in Japanese, but it says you'll get 13W when you charge with charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0 and with normal charger you'll get 10W.
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Either they know nothing about electronics or they cannot calculate ^^
1. it should show 9W..... 1.8A x 5V so their meassurement device is not exact (hell, these Wallplug meassurement things are made for 220V ! so you measure 0.045A you can't expect them to be realistic, they're for up to 2000W not so low values.)
2. 9V x 1.8A = 16.2W but this is wrong again as the Quick CHarge 2.0 speccs are up to 4.5A for 9V
So if it really is charching with 9V it only uses 1.44A
Oh... and btw the Stock Sony Wall charger EP880 only has 5V 1.5A
Let's hope some people who know what they're doing are gonna test the Z2 or other phones with Quick Charge 2.0
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I'm using some chineese quick charger 2.1A and it charges 27% in 38min.
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Doesn't seem like it's working ^^ if you compair to stock charger.
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As said its pointless trying to increase the charging rate
I learned when pushing it past 1500mAh it starts to damage the device usb port and
battery
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I'm unsure about the battery but this is why QC 2.0 utilizes a higher charge voltage. Also why in computers, all high current devices now run on the 12v rail instead of 3.3v or 5v, because high amperage at low voltage would damage cables and connectors. If we had expensive graphics cards pulling 400w at 3.3v there would be a huge problem with heat and necessary wire size. There is more resistance in metals with high current / low voltage vs. high voltage / low current and this is what can damage the USB port.
This is also why at 120v AC we have issues running high current draw appliances vs 220-240v circuits.
Also why high voltage is more fatal, because it travels more easily through our skin, and etc.

I contacted Qualcomm by email, and they replied to me after a few days.
Xperia Z2 officialy does not support Quick Charger 2.0, only in JAPANESE models.
They updated their website, and removed the information, that's sad.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
FYI guys, Sony Brazil sells Z2 and Z3 with Smartband, so, our OEM charger has only 0.8A :crying::crying::crying:

Just purchase some charger with 5V 2A output and you will be fine..
I have tried using the standard charger 5V 1.5A if i am correct and it took around 3 hours..
And i tried using OnePlus charger 5V 2A and it is noticeably faster

Haldi4803 said:
Either they know nothing about electronics or they cannot calculate ^^
1. it should show 9W..... 1.8A x 5V so their meassurement device is not exact (hell, these Wallplug meassurement things are made for 220V ! so you measure 0.045A you can't expect them to be realistic, they're for up to 2000W not so low values.)
2. 9V x 1.8A = 16.2W but this is wrong again as the Quick CHarge 2.0 speccs are up to 4.5A for 9V
So if it really is charching with 9V it only uses 1.44A
Oh... and btw the Stock Sony Wall charger EP880 only has 5V 1.5A
Let's hope some people who know what they're doing are gonna test the Z2 or other phones with Quick Charge 2.0
Doesn't seem like it's working ^^ if you compair to stock charger.
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I've already compared it with a normal 1.5A and it;s charging faster and the device also gets warmer.
I have a lot of apps running in the background, so my results may be other than yours.

Hello,
quick question: is it safe to charge our Z2's by S5 charger - 5,3V and 2,1A?

i dont get this. If the stock charger is 1500mA and the batery is 3200mA it should take only 2h10 to fully charge(more or less). But mine takes like 3h (brand new phone, charger and cable, all stock)

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Hello,
quick question: is it safe to charge our Z2's by S5 charger - 5,3V and 2,1A?
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quickcharging is disabled by sony for safety reasons.
migueldbr said:
i dont get this. If the stock charger is 1500mA and the batery is 3200mA it should take only 2h10 to fully charge(more or less). But mine takes like 3h (brand new phone, charger and cable, all stock)
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yes its 1500ma with a 3200ma battery but concider the cpu. your phone is awake for 25% of the screen being off so it should take a over 2hrs10m to charge unless you have xposed amplify installed.

Nexus Only Reading 1.5A charging

I did search through the forums and didn't find anything that applied to the issue I'm having. I bought a 6P off Ebay for a good price, but it didn't come with any accessories. I don't have a C-C wall charger, but I did buy what I thought was a decent one with a C-C cable for my car. The charger is made by Satechi, and the cable is made by Belkin. They both specifically say on the box that they support fast charging, the cable up to 60W, the charger up to 36W. When I tried multiple amp monitors on my phone it only said that it was hooked up to a 1500mA charger. Plugged it into my USB battery pack which has a 2.4A port, same thing. Now, in my experience with computer hardware most of my hardware problems are generally software problems, and I'm wondering if installing Lineage on this thing has eliminated my ability for fast charging. I've done lots of searching (my Google-Fu is terrible) and there's no real mention on if fast charging is up to the hardware or software. Does anyone else have some experience with this and can maybe guide me through some things I can look at?

I know that ampère (app) says Max 1500mah too when I'm connected to my stock charger, but the charge rate goes well over 1500 mah (around 2500-2800 or something). After hitting 60% or something it slows down. I also know that lineage os on the nexus 5 says "charging slowly" on the lock screen, while the charge rate is normal.

swa100 said:
I know that ampère (app) says Max 1500mah too when I'm connected to my stock charger, but the charge rate goes well over 1500 mah (around 2500-2800 or something). After hitting 60% or something it slows down. I also know that lineage os on the nexus 5 says "charging slowly" on the lock screen, while the charge rate is normal.
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I had a similar thought so I drained it to about 25% and then charged it back up. Fastest charging rate I saw was 1250mA.

Caboose27 said:
I did search through the forums and didn't find anything that applied to the issue I'm having. I bought a 6P off Ebay for a good price, but it didn't come with any accessories. I don't have a C-C wall charger, but I did buy what I thought was a decent one with a C-C cable for my car. The charger is made by Satechi, and the cable is made by Belkin. They both specifically say on the box that they support fast charging, the cable up to 60W, the charger up to 36W. When I tried multiple amp monitors on my phone it only said that it was hooked up to a 1500mA charger. Plugged it into my USB battery pack which has a 2.4A port, same thing. Now, in my experience with computer hardware most of my hardware problems are generally software problems, and I'm wondering if installing Lineage on this thing has eliminated my ability for fast charging. I've done lots of searching (my Google-Fu is terrible) and there's no real mention on if fast charging is up to the hardware or software. Does anyone else have some experience with this and can maybe guide me through some things I can look at?
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It's hard to say whether the app, charger or cable is letting you down here. The 6P charging cycle has many steps and it will only pull maximum current from empty to about 30%. Next time you discharge the phone, pull it down to the single digits and then check current again. My stock charger will put out 2.7+ amps when the phone is fully discharged. (I used Accubattery). What you should also know is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes or longer even when the phone says 100%. If you are interested, you can read more in an early Anandtech article. Scroll down to the "Charge Time" paragraph/graph. There is a lot of misinformation around the USB-C standard, and ton of crappy chargers and cables that do not meet the USB-C standard or make claims that independent testing does not back up. A Google engineer named Bensen Leung has been lab testing cables and chargers to try and provide some clarity. For car chargers, he currently favors the Nekteck 5.4A . Lastly, there is much more discussion on chargers and cables in the Accessories sub-forum.

v12xke said:
It's hard to say whether the app, charger or cable is letting you down here. The 6P charging cycle has many steps and it will only pull maximum current from empty to about 30%. Next time you discharge the phone, pull it down to the single digits and then check current again. My stock charger will put out 2.7+ amps when the phone is fully discharged. (I used Accubattery). What you should also know is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes or longer even when the phone says 100%. If you are interested, you can read more in an early Anandtech article. Scroll down to the "Charge Time" paragraph/graph. There is a lot of misinformation around the USB-C standard, and ton of crappy chargers and cables that do not meet the USB-C standard or make claims that independent testing does not back up. A Google engineer named Bensen Leung has been lab testing cables and chargers to try and provide some clarity. For car chargers, he currently favors the Nekteck 5.4A . Lastly, there is much more discussion on chargers and cables in the Accessories sub-forum.
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Well, I tried it with the app you mentioned and it said (at 9%) at I averaged a 1350 mA charging current. I almost need to find a charger belonging to someone else that works on their own Nexus and then try it on this one.

@Caboose27
Good you tried a different app to rule out a particular app. My guess is that one of your components is not living up to it's claims. Look for Benson Leung approved cables/chargers and you won't be disappointed. Have a look through the Accessories sub-forum to find good stuff tested and endorsed by other folks. Good luck to you, and welcome to the exceptional Community of the N6P. You chose a good device.

v12xke said:
@Caboose27
Good you tried a different app to rule out a particular app. My guess is that one of your components is not living up to it's claims. Look for Benson Leung approved cables/chargers and you won't be disappointed. Have a look through the Accessories sub-forum to find good stuff tested and endorsed by other folks. Good luck to you, and welcome to the exceptional Community of the N6P. You chose a good device.
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I did look through the Accessories forum, and I found a post about a USB charger that's basically exactly what I'm looking for. But it was a year old and he never wrote if it worked or not, hence me starting this post. I appreciate your input though. Most of the stuff on the sub-forum is about wall chargers, and I'm specifically looking for a fast charging car charger.

See https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf (the only not so funny thing is that it doesn't mention Nexus 6p)
Will receive my car charger tomorrow and I only discovered this document today.
Lucky me, the charger is mentionned So is your Satechi.

rchtk said:
See https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf (the only not so funny thing is that it doesn't mention Nexus 6p)
Will receive my car charger tomorrow and I only discovered this document today.
Lucky me, the charger is mentionned So is your Satechi.
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It doesn't mention it because the Nexus 6P does not support Qualcomm's QC3 or QC2 at all. Hopefully the car charger you bought (you didn't specify) has a native USB-C port or a permanently attached USB-C cable that outputs 5V/3A. Otherwise your QC3 charger will only output a maximum of USB-A which limits you to either 2.1 or 2.4A. A review and test results of many USB-C compliant accessories can be found here.

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It does have a USB c cable and outputs at 3A.
Good spot on 6P not supporting QC while chip is a Qualcomm
Haven't seen many reviews. Will give feedback if it exploded.
edit: I finally have had time to test it. Works great.

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It does have a USB c cable and outputs at 3A.
Good spot on 6P not supporting QC while chip is a Qualcomm
Haven't seen many reviews. Will give feedback if it exploded.
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No worries mate. I have two of those same Tronsmart units. :good:

v12xke said:
It's hard to say whether the app, charger or cable is letting you down here. The 6P charging cycle has many steps and it will only pull maximum current from empty to about 30%. Next time you discharge the phone, pull it down to the single digits and then check current again. My stock charger will put out 2.7+ amps when the phone is fully discharged. (I used Accubattery). What you should also know is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes or longer even when the phone says 100%. If you are interested, you can read more in an early Anandtech article. Scroll down to the "Charge Time" paragraph/graph. There is a lot of misinformation around the USB-C standard, and ton of crappy chargers and cables that do not meet the USB-C standard or make claims that independent testing does not back up. A Google engineer named Bensen Leung has been lab testing cables and chargers to try and provide some clarity. For car chargers, he currently favors the Nekteck 5.4A . Lastly, there is much more discussion on chargers and cables in the Accessories sub-forum.
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I bought one and it arrived over the weekend. It works great, and it actually seems to run a tad cooler than my standard two amp charger.

Good to hear