Hi guys,
I have an D6543 (Brazilian Model), there is no difference between D6503.
I checked the Qualcomm website a lot of times, and Z2 is in compatibility list: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/devices/all?feature=Quick Charge 2.0
So, I purchase the Tenergy Quick Charger 2.0 at Amazon, and for my surprise, it's not working at all. Only normal charging.
I tested at 1%, and in 30 minutes only 11% was charged, VERY, VERY slow.
The light indication at charger is saying that is on normal charging.
I'm really frustrated.
Fastcharging is disabled on xperias for safety
Charging should be between 1-5 hours even without fastcharge
My z2 only take around 2 hours to fully charge from 1%. Just using the stock plug charger.
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yuskhayru said:
My z2 only take around 2 hours to fully charge from 1%. Just using the stock plug charger.
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I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.
Envious_Data said:
I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.
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i dont know about it, but ive charged my z2 several times from 1% to 100% only take 2 hours - 2 hours and 30 minute. And yes, i've heard people charged thier z2 atleast 4hours to completly fully charged from 1%. My phone is still standard, under warranty(havent mod anything yet and still unrooted).
Envious_Data said:
I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.
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I don't know why. Z2 has the Snapdragon 801, which is compatible with Quick Charger 2.0, as Z1 was compatible with QC 1.0.
LG G3 also has the 801, but LG does not enable the QC, that's why it is not at Qualcomm's website. It's weird, because Z2 was recently added to the list, and the main product page says it's compatible.
In the end, I just lost money because their poor support and information.
yuskhayru said:
i dont know about it, but ive charged my z2 several times from 1% to 100% only take 2 hours - 2 hours and 30 minute. And yes, i've heard people charged thier z2 atleast 4hours to completly fully charged from 1%. My phone is still standard, under warranty(havent mod anything yet and still unrooted).
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As said its pointless trying to increase the charging rate
I learned when pushing it past 1500mAh it starts to damage the device usb port and
battery
victormartins said:
I don't know why. Z2 has the Snapdragon 801, which is compatible with Quick Charger 2.0, as Z1 was compatible with QC 1.0.
LG G3 also has the 801, but LG does not enable the QC, that's why it is not at Qualcomm's website. It's weird, because Z2 was recently added to the list, and the main product page says it's compatible.
In the end, I just lost money because their poor support and information.
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Not exactly poor support, if its safe to use and certified safe to use sony would have put it in the features list on their website but it wasnt there when i bought the phone nor when i last checked.
As said check my reply
The device charges at as fast as it safely can with the factory provided charger
I'm using envi rom.
I have a normal 2,2A usb charger.
When I use the usb port to charge i have really slow (6h from 0 to full charge) to reasonable charge time (3h from 0 to 100) depending on the used cable.
But when I use the magnetic aftermarket cable than I get insane charge time, only the last 10% from 90 to 100 is not fast but it certainly uses 2A as it is from 0 to 90% in about 90 minutes.
The phone gets slightly warm but far from the temperature it gets with intensive usage and the magnetic connection gets warm too, but nothing alarming imo.
The full metal and glass design makes heat diffuse very fast.
That sucks I'm coming from a one plus one and the charger was very fast.
Envious_Data said:
Not exactly poor support, if its safe to use and certified safe to use sony would have put it in the features list on their website but it wasnt there when i bought the phone nor when i last checked.
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Qualcomm states it does!
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
I'm using some chineese quick charger 2.1A and it charges 27% in 38min.
Sent from Xperia Z2
Xperia Z2 and Z3 supports Quick Charge 2.0.
You need charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0, though.
http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/223/223383/
This site is in Japanese, but it says you'll get 13W when you charge with charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0 and with normal charger you'll get 10W.
Normal charging is already fast enough, so you won't notice big difference.
AndroPlus said:
http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/223/223383/
This site is in Japanese, but it says you'll get 13W when you charge with charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0 and with normal charger you'll get 10W.
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Either they know nothing about electronics or they cannot calculate ^^
1. it should show 9W..... 1.8A x 5V so their meassurement device is not exact (hell, these Wallplug meassurement things are made for 220V ! so you measure 0.045A you can't expect them to be realistic, they're for up to 2000W not so low values.)
2. 9V x 1.8A = 16.2W but this is wrong again as the Quick CHarge 2.0 speccs are up to 4.5A for 9V
So if it really is charching with 9V it only uses 1.44A
Oh... and btw the Stock Sony Wall charger EP880 only has 5V 1.5A
Let's hope some people who know what they're doing are gonna test the Z2 or other phones with Quick Charge 2.0
mr.loverlover said:
I'm using some chineese quick charger 2.1A and it charges 27% in 38min.
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Doesn't seem like it's working ^^ if you compair to stock charger.
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Envious_Data said:
As said its pointless trying to increase the charging rate
I learned when pushing it past 1500mAh it starts to damage the device usb port and
battery
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I'm unsure about the battery but this is why QC 2.0 utilizes a higher charge voltage. Also why in computers, all high current devices now run on the 12v rail instead of 3.3v or 5v, because high amperage at low voltage would damage cables and connectors. If we had expensive graphics cards pulling 400w at 3.3v there would be a huge problem with heat and necessary wire size. There is more resistance in metals with high current / low voltage vs. high voltage / low current and this is what can damage the USB port.
This is also why at 120v AC we have issues running high current draw appliances vs 220-240v circuits.
Also why high voltage is more fatal, because it travels more easily through our skin, and etc.
I contacted Qualcomm by email, and they replied to me after a few days.
Xperia Z2 officialy does not support Quick Charger 2.0, only in JAPANESE models.
They updated their website, and removed the information, that's sad.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
FYI guys, Sony Brazil sells Z2 and Z3 with Smartband, so, our OEM charger has only 0.8A :crying::crying::crying:
Just purchase some charger with 5V 2A output and you will be fine..
I have tried using the standard charger 5V 1.5A if i am correct and it took around 3 hours..
And i tried using OnePlus charger 5V 2A and it is noticeably faster
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Either they know nothing about electronics or they cannot calculate ^^
1. it should show 9W..... 1.8A x 5V so their meassurement device is not exact (hell, these Wallplug meassurement things are made for 220V ! so you measure 0.045A you can't expect them to be realistic, they're for up to 2000W not so low values.)
2. 9V x 1.8A = 16.2W but this is wrong again as the Quick CHarge 2.0 speccs are up to 4.5A for 9V
So if it really is charching with 9V it only uses 1.44A
Oh... and btw the Stock Sony Wall charger EP880 only has 5V 1.5A
Let's hope some people who know what they're doing are gonna test the Z2 or other phones with Quick Charge 2.0
Doesn't seem like it's working ^^ if you compair to stock charger.
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I've already compared it with a normal 1.5A and it;s charging faster and the device also gets warmer.
I have a lot of apps running in the background, so my results may be other than yours.
Hello,
quick question: is it safe to charge our Z2's by S5 charger - 5,3V and 2,1A?
i dont get this. If the stock charger is 1500mA and the batery is 3200mA it should take only 2h10 to fully charge(more or less). But mine takes like 3h (brand new phone, charger and cable, all stock)
cedropol said:
Hello,
quick question: is it safe to charge our Z2's by S5 charger - 5,3V and 2,1A?
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quickcharging is disabled by sony for safety reasons.
migueldbr said:
i dont get this. If the stock charger is 1500mA and the batery is 3200mA it should take only 2h10 to fully charge(more or less). But mine takes like 3h (brand new phone, charger and cable, all stock)
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yes its 1500ma with a 3200ma battery but concider the cpu. your phone is awake for 25% of the screen being off so it should take a over 2hrs10m to charge unless you have xposed amplify installed.
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I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note charger with mine because I ordered from UK and North American sockets are different.
Anyway, the phone charges fast, despite what reviews say, I'm just a bit concerned that it could be affecting my battery's life or something.
how long does it take to charge it? can you take a picture of the charger so we can read the description of the output?
janedoe5000 said:
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note charger with mine because I ordered from UK and North American sockets are different.
Anyway, the phone charges fast, despite what reviews say, I'm just a bit concerned that it could be affecting my battery's life or something.
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What's the Ampere output on your Note charger? It should be printed on the side
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What's the Ampere output on your Note charger? It should be printed on the side
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The Galaxy Note 3 charger is 2A. I tried a Nexus 10 fake charger (2A verified, uses 15W from wall socket @2A with the Nexus 10 to provide 5V/2A (10W, not measured)) while Sony original 1.5A charger uses 9.3W to provide 5V/1.5A (7.5W, not measured). Connecting the Nexus 10 charger to the Xperia Z3 compact it uses only 9.4W so it only take 1.5A or less even with an high gauge USB cable.
Therefore I would say that the phone never uses more than 1.5A no matter what's the charger.
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I'm just a bit concerned that it could be affecting my battery's life or something.
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Usually LiPo/Li-ion batteries support 1C charge without problem (as long as the charger slows down at the end). The capacity of the Xperia battery is 2600mAh, therefore 1C would be 2.6A, with a 2.1A or 2A charger you encounter absolutely no risk. Also even using an higher current charger, every phone (with a lithium based battery) integrates a charge regulator which will limit the maximum current according to their specifications. Therefore higher amperage is not a problem as higher voltage would be, it's more the highest current the charger CAN provide, not it actually provides.
It will charge even quicker, as the phone(Z3 and Z3 Compact) is Quick Charge 2.0 certified, you will just need to get a charger that is Quick charge 2.0 certified as well (i.e. Moto Turbo Charger). Feasibly, it could be charged in 45 mintues form 0-100%.
The charger will be my next purchase.
Not sure what's considered fast or slow when it comes to charging, but just using a generic USB charger with wall plug-in adaptor (as I do with all my phones without issue), I'm fully charged after a complete drain in about 2 hours. However, if there is some magical charger that can do this in 45 mins, I would totally invest in that!
boojay said:
Not sure what's considered fast or slow when it comes to charging, but just using a generic USB charger with wall plug-in adaptor (as I do with all my phones without issue), I'm fully charged after a complete drain in about 2 hours. However, if there is some magical charger that can do this in 45 mins, I would totally invest in that!
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4...ers-75-percent-faster-charging-snapdragon-800
NRG1975 said:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4...ers-75-percent-faster-charging-snapdragon-800
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Nice. I'm assuming there must be an 801 variant. Let us know how well it works when you do get one. For now I don't mind the slower charge since I leave my phone plugged in overnight, but I can forsee occasions where I would need a speedier solution.
You could use any tablet usb charger, they charge faster
Is magnet port charging faster that mini usb charging?
unk3 said:
Is magnet port charging faster that mini usb charging?
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I get about 900-1100 mAh with my magnetic charger. It takes about 2.5 hours to charge my device.
So youre saying that the Magnet Charger is significantly (33%) slower than the Micro Usb? Lame...
Yup. it's more of a convenience factor. I dislike opening the side panels and I usually just charge overnight w/ the dock (which also charges at the same rate).
zoome9 said:
I get about 900-1100 mAh with my magnetic charger. It takes about 2.5 hours to charge my device.
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Seems to be a standard charging time
difto said:
Seems to be a standard charging time
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I thought unk3 was maybe referencing a quick charger? The only thing aside from the quick charge that charged faster, was Samsung's. I think my old S5 was getting 1800mAh.
zoome9 said:
I thought unk3 was maybe referencing a quick charger? The only thing aside from the quick charge that charged faster, was Samsung's. I think my old S5 was getting 1800mAh.
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I think he was referencing 900-1100mAh vs. 1500mAh of the stock charger. So to correct it there is absolutely no difference from a technical point of view between USB or magnetic port, there are not more less losses assuming the quality of the cable is the same, it is just a different plug. The magnet only holds the plug, the connection is wired and not inductive therefore efficiency is.the same.
there can be a difference, because magnetic port does not have the 2 additional pins that phones like to use to identify the maximum current they can draw from the charger, so...
yozas said:
there can be a difference, because magnetic port does not have the 2 additional pins that phones like to use to identify the maximum current they can draw from the charger, so...
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This is Apple BS to explain the incompatibility of their iPhone with most chargers on the market at the time. The phone does not need to identify the charger max amperage at all,the charger is simply a 5V DC power supply with a defined max amperage like a wall outlet provides 110V or 220V AC at max 10/16/20/32A. The charging circuit of the phone does all the job: transform 5V to 4.2V and then regulates the amperage going to the battery at constant voltage. There is a difference with a wall outlet though, if the rating is lower than what the phone requests then the charge will simply be longer and the charger will not burn (at least if it is lawful).
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This is Apple BS to explain the incompatibility of their iPhone with most chargers on the market at the time.
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Apple has their own strategy with chargers, it is a mix of marketing and truth, however this case is really not marketing, it's just how it works.
The phone does not need to identify the charger max amperage at all
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It definitely does need to, that is, if you want your phone to draw more than 500mA. USB standard does not allow a device to draw more than 500mA from the port, and all phones conform to that. That's why it charges slowly if you plug your mobile phone into a computers USB port, the internal charger circuitry inside the phone limits the maximum current "ceiling" that it will try to draw to mere 500mA.
the charger is simply a 5V DC power supply with a defined max amperage like a wall outlet provides 110V or 220V AC at max 10/16/20/32A.
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You are correct on the defined max amperage part. Every DC power supply has it's maximum current limit, just like ordinary computer USB port (which can supply max 500mA, if you step higher than that, the current overload protection in the computer shuts the port down (and windows will give you an error about a power surge on USB port X). That's precisely why a phone must identify if the power supply that it is connected to can give higher than 500mA current, as to not overload it.
The charging circuit of the phone does all the job: transform 5V to 4.2V and then regulates the amperage going to the battery at constant voltage.
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Correct
There is a difference with a wall outlet though, if the rating is lower than what the phone requests then the charge will simply be longer and the charger will not burn (at least if it is lawful).
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Yeah, many cheap ones will overheat (shorten the lifespan of electrolytic capacitors, etc) and even burn. And even some that are not cheap will burn. Others will be periodically shutting down by internal thermal protection, then turning on again after it cools down, this is not good either.
If you use a magnetic charger then the phone loses the ability to identify if it's connected to a computers USB port, or a charger that can supply more than 500mA. And in this case it will stay on the safe side and will not try to draw more than 500mA (charge slower) from the port.
As for the identification, you can check that pins 2 and 3 are shorted in the charger's USB port, that is how the phone "knows" that it is connected to a charger with high current ability. You can get some spare USB cable and make an experiment, cut the wires that go from pins 2 and 3, and you will see that the phone will limit the current to 500mA.
yozas said:
Apple has their own strategy with chargers, it is a mix of marketing and truth, however this case is really not marketing, it's just how it works.
It definitely does need to, that is, if you want your phone to draw more than 500mA. USB standard does not allow a device to draw more than 500mA from the port, and all phones conform to that. That's why it charges slowly if you plug your mobile phone into a computers USB port, the internal charger circuitry inside the phone limits the maximum current "ceiling" that it will try to draw to mere 500mA.
You are correct on the defined max amperage part. Every DC power supply has it's maximum current limit, just like ordinary computer USB port (which can supply max 500mA, if you step higher than that, the current overload protection in the computer shuts the port down (and windows will give you an error about a power surge on USB port X). That's precisely why a phone must identify if the power supply that it is connected to can give higher than 500mA current, as to not overload it.
Correct
Yeah, many cheap ones will overheat (shorten the lifespan of electrolytic capacitors, etc) and even burn. And even some that are not cheap will burn. Others will be periodically shutting down by internal thermal protection, then turning on again after it cools down, this is not good either.
If you use a magnetic charger then the phone loses the ability to identify if it's connected to a computers USB port, or a charger that can supply more than 500mA. And in this case it will stay on the safe side and will not try to draw more than 500mA (charge slower) from the port.
As for the identification, you can check that pins 2 and 3 are shorted in the charger's USB port, that is how the phone "knows" that it is connected to a charger with high current ability. You can get some spare USB cable and make an experiment, cut the wires that go from pins 2 and 3, and you will see that the phone will limit the current to 500mA.
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Experiment done: I beg to differ, the phone draws 1.5A from the magnetic port, see attached picture (it is the current drawn from a 2S battery at 7.62V so roughly 1.5A at 5V. Also this circuit can provide 2A at 5V which means that the phone never draws more than 1.5A no matter what the charger is.
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The fact that data lines only indicates it is a charger and not a computer, data lines at not shorted but connected to a certain resistance function of the amperage of the charger if they follow the apple scheme.
Hi I just wanted to know that The quick charge 3.0 claimed by LG G6 is really quick or not ? I will attach below what all I got at various timings.
Starting from Phone switched off that is 0% , I switched on the phone and let it charge and didn't use the phone at all rather than timely checking the battery charge only
28 minutes 27%
32 minutes 28%
45 minutes 42%
53 minutes 50%
60 minutes 58%
80% at 1 hr 18 minutes (Qualcomm claim to slow down after)
90% at 1 hr 31 minutes
100% full charge at 1 hr 55minutes.
Is the charger provided with the box is QC 3.0 or 2.0 ? 9v -1.8amp / 5v - 1.8amp
ben cherian said:
Hi I just wanted to know that The quick charge 3.0 claimed by LG G6 is really quick or not ? I will attach below what all I got at various timings.
Starting from Phone switched off that is 0% , I switched on the phone and let it charge and didn't use the phone at all rather than timely checking the battery charge only
28 minutes 27%
32 minutes 28%
45 minutes 42%
53 minutes 50%
60 minutes 58%
80% at 1 hr 18 minutes (Qualcomm claim to slow down after)
90% at 1 hr 31 minutes
100% full charge at 1 hr 55minutes.
Is the charger provided with the box is QC 3.0 or 2.0 ? 9v -1.8amp / 5v - 1.8amp
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The charger provided with the G6 is the same provided with G5, QC2.0
Killua96 said:
The charger provided with the G6 is the same provided with G5, QC2.0
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Can you suggest some QC 3.0 charger with cable also if stock cable doesn't support QC 3.0 please
ben cherian said:
Can you suggest some QC 3.0 charger with cable also if stock cable doesn't support QC 3.0 please
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Go with some Anker stuff and you are done
Testing phase 2 using LG charger plus Oneplus 3 cable
10:20Pm - 5%
11:20Pm - 77%
11:30Pm - 85%
12:00Am - 100%
From the above data I got j think it charges fast upto 80~85 or 90% then slows down to trickle mode
Fone was made sure of clearing ram from recent apps
Is there someone can confirm how fast it charge with quick charger 3?
LG G6 doesn't support
QC3 with current firmware at all. It's doesn't matter which charger you use.
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LG G6 doesn't support
QC3 with current firmware at all. It's doesn't matter which charger you use.
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Do you have any sources to back up this statement?
Yes, I do:
1. My own observations
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It doesn't matter what charger you use: LG or other certified QC 3.0 charger.
2. This thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/qc3-0-included-t3601591
Any charger takes about 2 hours to full charge a phone. It's way too long for QC3.0
Montechristo said:
Yes, I do:
1. My own observations
It doesn't matter what charger you use: LG or other certified QC 3.0 charger.
2. This thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/qc3-0-included-t3601591
Any charger takes about 2 hours to full charge a phone. It's way too long for QC3.0
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I concur.
I don't particularly want to go over old ground regarding my H870DS, but I have three QC 3.0 chargers, the charger that comes with the G6, and my QC 2.0 charger from my Z2 tablet, all of them charge my G6 at the same speed - 1% a minute. But what is more interesting, is that all of the QC 3.0 charger I have, are backward compatible, and they all charge my G5 a lot faster than my G6. 0 to 70% on the G6 takes around 1 hour 10 mins, the G5 takes 40 minutes for the same percentages. Something is clearly amiss!
Exactly this same experience. LG calls it “fast charging“: indeed it is, but it isn't QC3.
For me not a deal breaker, just my observation(s) only.
QC3 isn't any faster than QC2 the only difference is qc3 is more energy efficient which means it can change the voltage on the fly.
QC2 can't do this an excess energy is expelled as heat when the battery reaches near full capacity. QC3 can adjust the voltage to prevent this energy loss.
QC3 is likely better for the battery as it doesn't generate as much heat but it's no faster than QC 2.
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It only quick charges when screen is off for whatever reason.
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I thought all phones with USB Type C was QC3? I thought that was the point of USB Type C?
It officially has QC3.0
http://www.lg.com/de/handy/lg-G6
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I thought all phones with USB Type C was QC3? I thought that was the point of USB Type C?
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No.
By definition of the USB-C specifications QC QuickCharge is not allowed. Thats why Goolge says that they shall not include QC into their phones but USB-PD (and yes, as it seems the G6 also has PowerDelivery).
I think it is more futuree-proof to buy a charger with USB-C PD and in some jears we can use it for all kind of stuff like phones,tablets, laptops etc
Testing phase 3!!!
Well guys today I tried again back with Stock charger and Stock cable got with box.
96% at 1 hour 22 minutes. I couldn't record the 100% time due to busy time.
Main thing this time did was
NEVER TURN ON SCREEN... NOT EVEN ONE TIME IN BETWEEN.
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Testing phase 3!!!
Well guys today I tried again back with Stock charger and Stock cable got with box.
96% at 1 hour 22 minutes. I couldn't record the 100% time due to busy time.
Main thing this time did was
NEVER TURN ON SCREEN... NOT EVEN ONE TIME IN BETWEEN.
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When testing phase 2, your phone was 95% at 1h40, with testing phase 3 your phone was 96% at 1h20. No big difference when you turn screen off.
ggun69 said:
When testing phase 2, your phone was 95% at 1h40, with testing phase 3 your phone was 96% at 1h20. No big difference when you turn screen off.
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But bro 20minutes a difference right ?
Going to test phase 4 powerbank with stock cable specs of powerbank attached with pic.
Honor powerbank 13000mah
Output 5volt-2ampere
Hey guys, I wanna buy this phone but I have question about charging, does it support quick charge or just fast charging only? Thanks
I Saw Geekyranjits very detailed Faq video.. He said it Supports only 5v/2a charger speed.. he tested it with fast charger but it charged Normally as stock charger speed ... here's the link to his video...
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Hey guys, I wanna buy this phone but I have question about charging, does it support quick charge or just fast charging only? Thanks
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The phone only supports fast charging for now. The bundled charger is a 2A and 10 Watts one. It takes about 2 hour 40 minutes to charge.
But the chipset does support Qualcomm quickcharge 4.0. Yet we don't know if the board supports it. If it also supports it, maybe ASUS will enable it via an OTA update. But its very rare in such cases and if they don't release an OTA, probably you would find a supported kernel and custom ROM here.
If the board doesn't support QC 4.0, then don't worry. You won't get it anywhere. Probably, that's why there is no QC supported charger provided by ASUS.
Mine takes almost 7hours to charge. When I check using ampere it shows only 900mA max of input rate. But I think there is no any problem with my charger because it's normal when I use it to my other phone. Anyone has the same issue? I've been using any method that everyone suggest in some forum but it ended up in no change at all.
bagazzz52 said:
Mine takes almost 7hours to charge. When I check using ampere it shows only 900mA max of input rate. But I think there is no any problem with my charger because it's normal when I use it to my other phone. Anyone has the same issue? I've been using any method that everyone suggest in some forum but it ended up in no change at all.
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I too had same problem though mine took 5 hrs to charge . Then I found out that if all apps were closed then it only took around 3hrs to charge. Ampere app shows 1500mA .
Abby 244 said:
I too had same problem though mine took 5 hrs to charge . Then I found out that if all apps were closed then it only took around 3hrs to charge. Ampere app shows 1500mA .
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If I turned the phone off it took almost 6 hours from 10% to fully charged. I think it's abnormal.
bagazzz52 said:
If I turned the phone off it took almost 6 hours from 10% to fully charged. I think it's abnormal.
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No need to turn off mobile , simply switch off data and wifi.
What's with this charging issue for everyone.
Also like take 5 hours to charge full battery.
2 hours only chargers from 10-45%
Charging problem
My Zenfone Max pro m1 needed 4 hours to charge from 70% to 100%....!
Mine only takes about 2 hours to go from 10% to around 80-90%. the charger first says "Charging slowly" then within 2-3 mins it will say "Charging" and then within 3-4 mins it will say "Charging Rapidly" and then it only takes about 2 hours to charge 80-90% with the bundled charger. I don't know if a better charger would increase the outcome but lets see.
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Mine only takes about 2 hours to go from 10% to around 80-90%. the charger first says "Charging slowly" then within 2-3 mins it will say "Charging" and then within 3-4 mins it will say "Charging Rapidly" and then it only takes about 2 hours to charge 80-90% with the bundled charger.
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Same
My device has started supporting some kind of rapid charging
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Those chargers that fully charge in 2h, can someone send us a picture os the specs?
angelinosb said:
Those chargers that fully charge in 2h, can someone send us a picture os the specs?
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I have a MI Quick charger,
and i use it always from the day One of using this phone,
Previously it used to take the same time as the bundled charger,
but after the last / August 2nd update, i can see some sort of quick charging working,
Because i never saw charging rapidly on the lock screen before this update,
and as per my observation, 5% - 80% takes approx 2 hrs (Quick charge way), and slows down there after,
i haven't tested with the original bundled charger after this update though,
Will share the screenshots after testing.
Fast Charging working
Yes the phone supports fast charging can see from the screenshot
The bundled charger supplied with the phone is rated 5V/2A/10W which supports QC 1.0
Asus ZMP M1 runs on SD636 which theoretically supports QC 4.0. But it is not implemented at kernel level (probably due to licensing costs payable to QC which will raise the cost of the phone)
So effectively, fast charging is not supported on stock kernel. (And I may entirely be wrong !)
Here are the screenshots,
This one with 2 hours and 34 minutes (5% - 100%) is with the Mi quick charger 3.0 charger.
And this one with the 3 hour (17% - 99%) is with the bundled charger.
Anything above 1A can be called fast charging. So 5V/2A can be called fast charging. Although it is assumed that if device supports 9V and 12V then this indicates QC level fast charging.
A more accurate comparison and result can be obtained from Ampere app. You can use any charger but the phone will draw only that much power which is supported by the board. Also,many things affect the charging time e.g. length of the charging cable, heat dissipation by the charger etc.
Please suggest me a charger bcz my stock charger is damaged.
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The phone only supports fast charging for now. The bundled charger is a 2A and 10 Watts one. It takes about 2 hour 40 minutes to charge.
But the chipset does support Qualcomm quickcharge 4.0. Yet we don't know if the board supports it. If it also supports it, maybe ASUS will enable it via an OTA update. But its very rare in such cases and if they don't release an OTA, probably you would find a supported kernel and custom ROM here.
If the board doesn't support QC 4.0, then don't worry. You won't get it anywhere. Probably, that's why there is no QC supported charger provided by ASUS.
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Would you please suggest me a good fast Charger for Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 because my stock charger is damaged and the service centre is refused to replace it because of a small crack on the charger case.
Or
Can i buy the Mi Quick charge 3.0 instead of a fast charger.? Can i charge my phone with the quick charger 3.0 safely? Is the Mi 5V 2A charger is same as the Asus stock charger? Because asus stock charger not available to buy from online. It is only available in service centre and also need to wait a while.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Google Pixel 3 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The Pixel and Pixel 2 used to charge "fine" through a PC port. The pixel 3 charges extremely slowly. For example my Pixel 2 would be at 50% battery and using the USB port on my car it would be close to 90% when I got home. Under the same situation, the Pixel 3 would only be at 55%. Same problem using the PC port. I know I know it's NOT supposed to be fast charge but I am only stating the facts and differences. Stock charger charges fine.
Pixel 3 charges very slowly on my existing 2.4A (per port) multi usb charger. Clearly it's not a PD charger, but it always provided enough juice for my nexus 5x to charge quickly. Clearly the pixel 3 doesn't like it.
Can confirm this also. Ampere indicates that it pulls less than 200mA on any non-USB type C charger. This is different from my previous Pixel 2.
With Samsung fast wireless charger, s9 goes from 20%to 100 in less than 2 h, pixel 3 charged only 25% in 2 h....... Charging speed is awfull if you don't use Google chargers
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Can confirm this also. Ampere indicates that it pulls less than 200mA on any non-USB type C charger. This is different from my previous Pixel 2.
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Something is not right there. I see around 1000 mA with an old 1.0A charger and around 1300 mA with various 2.4A ones. Even with 'slow' wireless I see 500-600 mA
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With Nov security update. No improvements. It charges fine with pd charger but insanely slow with any other.
My Pixel 3 charges plenty fast for me. Although, I typically use my Dell Latitude 20v (45W) PD charger.
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Something is not right there. I see around 1000 mA with an old 1.0A charger and around 1300 mA with various 2.4A ones. Even with 'slow' wireless I see 500-600 mA
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I'm not an expert at this stuff and certainly might be missing something but charging at 1000mA from a 1A charger should be physically impossible. Wouldn't that be 100% efficiency?
Yup.. Charging is too slow.. Infact, the charging time estimated (which is shown on the lock screen when the phone is being charged) is also wrong.. May be it gets adjusted over time...
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Yup.. Charging is too slow.. Infact, the charging time estimated (which is shown on the lock screen when the phone is being charged) is also wrong.. May be it gets adjusted over time...
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The estimate is adjusted over time. To my knowledge, all fast charge technologies are able to charge much quicker when the battery is low, but then slow the charge down as the battery approaches a fully charged state/heats up. The estimate would simply be a guess, since they likely are, app status, ambient temperature and battery condition dependent.
This can be seen in the graph on xda's quick charging comparison. Note that all the technologies start out quite fast but eventually taper off. Also note that USB-PD is the slowest (most conservative) of the technologies after the battery gets to about %40 charge.
https://www.xda-developers.com/charging-comparison-oneplus-huawei/
I would add that my new pixel 3 does appear to charge a little slower than some of my previous devices, however I've got several devices that use USB-PD so the versatility of USB-PD and ability to use one charger across my devices more than makes up for the extra 30 minutes or so of cellphone charge time. Guess everyone's expectations are different.
"Fast charging" on the Pixel is via Power Delivery. This is only possible over USB-C; PD can negotiate higher charging rates by increasing the voltage. This is not possible with PC type A ports; type A is rated for 5v, 3a max.
Qualcomm Quick Charge does adjust voltage and uses type A ports, but it uses the data pins for rate negotiation, while PD uses pins unique to USB-C.
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I'm not an expert at this stuff and certainly might be missing something but charging at 1000mA from a 1A charger should be physically impossible. Wouldn't that be 100% efficiency?
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No. The charger is able to deliver 1000mA, but the total power delivered to the device will be less than it draws from the mains supply (the difference wasted as heat).
Powergreb said:
The Pixel and Pixel 2 used to charge "fine" through a PC port. The pixel 3 charges extremely slowly. For example my Pixel 2 would be at 50% battery and using the USB port on my car it would be close to 90% when I got home. Under the same situation, the Pixel 3 would only be at 55%. Same problem using the PC port. I know I know it's NOT supposed to be fast charge but I am only stating the facts and differences. Stock charger charges fine.
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Exactly. Google has really messed up the charging speed. Pixel2 used to be fine with usb ports. Pixel3 charges faster only with stock charger with which it came.
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
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No. The charger is able to deliver 1000mA, but the total power delivered to the device will be less than it draws from the mains supply (the difference wasted as heat).
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Yeah, that's what I thought but the comment I replied to said it was charging at 1A from a 1A charger. I would expect maybe 800mA from a 1A charger.
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Yeah, that's what I thought but the comment I replied to said it was charging at 1A from a 1A charger. I would expect maybe 800mA from a 1A charger.
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Yeah idk if I just mixed up my numbers (I had been testing multiple charges) or what. Tried again and it averaged more around 600
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The phone doesn't like to charge fast if the battery tempeturature is "high" (higher than 35 ºC). It's just a very agressive charge trhottle. Try charging again but in a colder weather or room.
It was my experience.
The charger that comes with the phone is not fast charger?
Got my phone yesterday and when I charged it, it said it's slow charging....
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Second charge was fast charge according to info on screen.
After Dec update, the PC port charging is normal, not rad, not slow but normal. Problem fixed.
Wireless charging speed
Powergreb said:
After Dec update, the PC port charging is normal, not rad, not slow but normal. Problem fixed.
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I felt similar way until today. But today at around 20% battery I put my Pixel 3 at Pixel Stand and have got that:
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I already posted regarding strange behavior of wireless charging: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78315849&postcount=73:
Before I've got original Pixel Stand, I used generic wireless charger. No surprises, it chargers P3 slowly. But there is more. Sometimes it doesn't charge P3 at all. Way more strange, that almost the same behavior I have with Pixel Stand. After some days I began to suspect there is a regularity - the charge at full speed works with at least 85% of charge at phone. If the charge is lower, the possibility the charge would be at rapid speed is pretty low. It can claim it charges rapidly, but in fact it doesn't charge at all, since the charge is going down at the same rate as phone out of any charging. I definitely have relatively small statistics and can not say for sure that 85% is a "red line" for triggering wireless charge start (regardless of speed in my case). Today even at 91% phone battery wireless charging at Pixel Stand didn't start at all (with "charging rapidly" announcement at screen and slowly discharging phone). Other functions of Stand work pretty good regardless of what's going on with charging. I didn't contact Google Customer Service since the results are unstable.
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In case of regular charging through the USB-C cable from native Pixel charger I've never had any problems. But wireless charging even with original Pixel Stand doesn't look good. At the generic charger even after Dec update charging goes south - not charging at all or with original Google wireless charger just like at screenshot - rapid charging in day and a half. It's better, than no charge, but for $79.99 for original Pixel Stand it has to be faster.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Realme 3 Pro can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Very good
One of the very few things that are good out of the box about this phone. Charges from 10 to 100% in 75 minutes even with screen usage while doing so.
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One of the very few things that are good out of the box about this phone. Charges from 10 to 100% in 75 minutes even with screen usage while doing so.
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What 's about battery life for 1 day?
Cyl3el2Cleal2 said:
What 's about battery life for 1 day?
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I never bring charger since use this phone?, mine is about 14-18 hours.
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I never bring charger since use this phone, mine is about 14-18 hours.
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Same here. If I want to go out and the battery is around 40%, I just plug the charger for a while. By the time I'm ready to go 15-20 minutes later, it's already around 70%. Thats more than enough juice for 9to5 office hours.
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What 's about battery life for 1 day?
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you can play any avg game for full day with out break
Realme 3 pro uses it's own VOOC 3.0 fast charger right? And it use snapdragon 710 that support Qualcomm quick charge 4.0
But Can realme 3 pro use qc 4.0 or even 3.0 atleast, like qc 3.0 powerbank or car charger maybe? They don't really have vooc accessories don't they? Just usual vooc charger?
Edit: I've found 6000mah vooc powerbank made by oppo itself, but the price is like 3 or 5 times more expensive than usual 10.000mah qc 3.0 powerbank price in here, insane ? i don't wanna pay that much for powerbank, so please still looking forward to see the compatibility between realme 3 pro and quick charge 4.0 or 3.0
Thanks
Charging time for me :
30 min - 0 to 44%
1 hr 25 min - 0 to 100%
I lost the original cable. I can't find a authentic vooc 3 cable anywhere. Please help. Without that particular 7 pin cable, it's 5 v 1 amp instead of 5 v 5 amp.
Chayan0071 said:
I lost the original cable. I can't find a authentic vooc 3 cable anywhere. Please help. Without that particular 7 pin cable, it's 5 v 1 amp instead of 5 v 5 amp.
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Wrong... it'll be 5V 2A instead of 5V 4A
wow suspect said:
Wrong... it'll be 5V 2A instead of 5V 4A
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No way, on the adapter it's clearly written 5v 4 amp
Use AccuBattery
I have taken measurements using the AccuBattery application, and this is the result
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I have taken measurements using the AccuBattery application, and this is the result
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that's pretty interesting results. mine is consistent with 90 min for full charge
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I lost the original cable. I can't find a authentic vooc 3 cable anywhere. Please help. Without that particular 7 pin cable, it's 5 v 1 amp instead of 5 v 5 amp.
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The original cable is available at oppo online website.
Chayan0071 said:
I lost the original cable. I can't find a authentic vooc 3 cable anywhere. Please help. Without that particular 7 pin cable, it's 5 v 1 amp instead of 5 v 5 amp.
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Search on gearbest for vooc!
Battery life is Amazing
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What 's about battery life for 1 day?
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For me, it's 36 hours. I use it all day, then it stays at standby at night while I'm asleep. Then I use it another day before charging. Works perfectly.
The compatibility
Ramdan2478 said:
Realme 3 pro uses it's own VOOC 3.0 fast charger right? And it use snapdragon 710 that support Qualcomm quick charge 4.0
But Can realme 3 pro use qc 4.0 or even 3.0 atleast, like qc 3.0 powerbank or car charger maybe? They don't really have vooc accessories don't they? Just usual vooc charger?
Edit: I've found 6000mah vooc powerbank made by oppo itself, but the price is like 3 or 5 times more expensive than usual 10.000mah qc 3.0 powerbank price in here, insane i don't wanna pay that much for powerbank, so please still looking forward to see the compatibility between realme 3 pro and quick charge 4.0 or 3.0
Thanks
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I also looking for the same thing. It's quiet difficult to find one. I also looking forward the compatibility. Peace
Edit: i've try to search any info/video about the compatibility, and it's looks like realme 3 pro does not compatible with quick charge 3.0 (it will only be a normal charging if using qc 3.0). Still looking for qc 4.0 compatibility, but still not found one. About vooc powerbank, i came across with 2 other powerbank (both 10.000mah btw), not made by oppo, that support vooc charge for realme 3 pro. Unfortunately, it appears that it only available in my country. I've try to search it in banggood or amazon, but it didn't available. In theory, if the chip support qc 4.0 it should be compatible. But then again, what do i know. Peace
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I also looking for the same thing. It's quiet difficult to find one. I also looking forward the compatibility. Peace
Edit: i've try to search any info/video about the compatibility, and it's looks like realme 3 pro does not compatible with quick charge 3.0 (it will only be a normal charging if using qc 3.0). Still looking for qc 4.0 compatibility, but still not found one. About vooc powerbank, i came across with 2 other powerbank (both 10.000mah btw), not made by oppo, that support vooc charge for realme 3 pro. Unfortunately, it appears that it only available in my country. I've try to search it in banggood or amazon, but it didn't available. In theory, if the chip support qc 4.0 it should be compatible. But then again, what do i know. Peace
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VOOC is a Proprietary technology of Oppo, Other brands won't have it even if they advertise as one. Beware.