[Q] Difference in N910F models - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there's a significant difference between the SM-N910FZKEDBT and the SM-N910FZWEDBT? I know they are both Snapdragon but I dont know if they have a difference in bands. They are both N910F but there is a 1 letter difference.
There is also another one, SM-N910FZKEXEH
I would like to know because I'm in the process of buying one
Thanks in advance!!

The one letter difference is only indicative to which country the device is being sold in. Otherwise, expect the model and available bands to be the same, as well as new Stock ROM availability. When a Software Update is posted over the air, it will apply to all "F" models, however, that single letter difference will determine the software update's language and country preferences the device pertains to.
itrof61 said:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there's a significant difference between the SM-N910FZKEDBT and the SM-N910FZWEDBT? I know they are both Snapdragon but I dont know if they have a difference in bands. They are both N910F but there is a 1 letter difference.
There is also another one, SM-N910FZKEXEH
I would like to know because I'm in the process of buying one
Thanks in advance!!
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arjun90 said:
The one letter difference is only indicative to which country the device is being sold in. Otherwise, expect the model and available bands to be the same, as well as new Stock ROM availability. When a Software Update is posted over the air, it will apply to all "F" models, however, that single letter difference will determine the software update's language and country preferences the device pertains to.
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Thank you very much for the info! So basically any N910f rom can be flashed on those versions regardless where the phone is sold, right?

That's correct, they share the same internal hardware with the only difference being software (different country region).
itrof61 said:
Thank you very much for the info! So basically any N910f rom can be flashed on those versions regardless where the phone is sold, right?
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itrof61 said:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there's a significant difference between the SM-N910FZKEDBT and the SM-N910FZWEDBT? I know they are both Snapdragon but I dont know if they have a difference in bands. They are both N910F but there is a 1 letter difference.
There is also another one, SM-N910FZKEXEH
I would like to know because I'm in the process of buying one
Thanks in advance!!
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Glad I've Google to find something!
ZKE is the BLACK model, ZWE is the WHITE model.
DBT = Germany open market

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Latest radio? 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08

From this thread:
http://www.hiapk.com/thread-583511-1-1.html
The poster attached a photo of his Nexus One with a Radio version which I've never seen before. "32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08"
He reported that he received OTA update notification and the radio was automatically installed by the OTA update.
Has anyone seen that radio version before?
prolly the new Asian radio that has the new drivers and fixes for the vulnerabilities on their devices
JHaste said:
prolly the new Asian radio that has the new drivers and fixes for the vulnerabilities on their devices
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All nexus ones use the same radios
na there was a thread or article i remember reading about some vulnerability fixes for asian n1's via driver updates... brb looking for it lol
(inserts foot in mouth)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815711
that was the thread i was thinking of but thats for the cpu not the radio... now i am befuddled about this new radio... i want it!
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Passion%20(Nexus%20One)/OTA_Passion_KT_KR_2.18.1010.4_FRG83-2.15.1010.2_FRF91_release_signed.zip
new radio is inside this patch -> radio.img
Extract the file and connect nexus in fastboot mode
fastboot devices
fastboot flash radio radio.img
wdfowty said:
All nexus ones use the same radios
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No.
No they do not.
Well at least all Nexus ones bought from the Google Store without going through the carriers should have the same radio. Not taking into consideration which android version at time of purchase of course.
Anyway South Korea is the only country in Asia that sells the Nexus one on its own through its local carriers, so this radio is probably Korean.
Rusty! said:
No.
No they do not.
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I'll second that!
No. No they do not!
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
so any differences noticed?
I saw a slight speed increase on Wifi and Edge.
Read the details here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8788247&postcount=76
Flashed it and it seems the Wifi and HSDPA are snappier! Much better than the 4.x
Using slcd N1 bought from local carrier
houzuoguo said:
From this thread:
http://www.hiapk.com/thread-583511-1-1.html
The poster attached a photo of his Nexus One with a Radio version which I've never seen before. "32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08"
He reported that he received OTA update notification and the radio was automatically installed by the OTA update.
Has anyone seen that radio version before?
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Apparently the newest one (5.12) isn't so great: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828185
Interesting, but hardly scientific.
There is too much variation in the network itself. I can keep my phone in the same spot all day, and watch it fluctuate between H, 3G, E, G, and even no signal at all...
I think it may be indicative, but would need many more data points to be conclusive (1000's).
Good effort though, and certainly worthy of note...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
danger-rat said:
Interesting, but hardly scientific.
There is too much variation in the network itself. I can keep my phone in the same spot all day, and watch it fluctuate between H, 3G, E, G, and even no signal at all...
I think it may be indicative, but would need many more data points to be conclusive (1000's).
Good effort though, and certainly worthy of note...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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Agreed, more people should do the test and THEN only could we do an average and compare the results...
My phone came with 5.08 on stock, then I went to 4.06 by mistake and it was pretty awful...In the end, I decided to try 5.12 and, as I said, it feels a lot snappier than the 4.06 and maybe even than the 5.08...I also think that the technology used could have something to do (frequencies of your network and such)
It's always hard to compare wireless speeds because there is nothing constant and physically exactly repeatable...still good job on the comparison though...we all know that any of the 5.x are better than 4.x anyways
Agreed!
Since switching to 5.12 I don't think I've ever dropped below 3G for any significant period. I don't know if my speeds are any faster, but its certainly more reliable... (5.08 seemed faster, but would frequemtly drop down to E/G, and occasionally loose signal).
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Rusty! said:
No.
No they do not.
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...Now I'm confused...All nexus ones, to the best of my knowledge, have the same hardware (sparing SLCD, of course), correct? And it isn't like there are radio "versions" for different regions where the phone sells...Only one thread per radio.
musashiken said:
Well at least all Nexus ones bought from the Google Store without going through the carriers should have the same radio. Not taking into consideration which android version at time of purchase of course.
Anyway South Korea is the only country in Asia that sells the Nexus one on its own through its local carriers, so this radio is probably Korean.
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No, you misunderstand what I said. I meant to say they can all use the same radios. But I guess I'm wrong? Can someone correct me?
wdfowty said:
...Now I'm confused...All nexus ones, to the best of my knowledge, have the same hardware (sparing SLCD, of course), correct? And it isn't like there are radio "versions" for different regions where the phone sells...Only one thread per radio.
No, you misunderstand what I said. I meant to say they can all use the same radios. But I guess I'm wrong? Can someone correct me?
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/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
JHaste said:
/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
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i believe what he meant, which is correct, is that all nexus ones, whether a euro version, ATT version, or tmobile version, all use the identical radio firmware, whether that is the 4.06, 5.08 or 5.12. sure each one will use different frequencies, but there is no 5.08 for an ATT version vs 5.08 for a tmobile version. its the same radio file for all.
JHaste said:
/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
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Lol, hold off on those facepalms
RogerPodacter said:
i believe what he meant, which is correct, is that all nexus ones, whether a euro version, ATT version, or tmobile version, all use the identical radio firmware, whether that is the 4.06, 5.08 or 5.12. sure each one will use different frequencies, but there is no 5.08 for an ATT version vs 5.08 for a tmobile version. its the same radio file for all.
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That's what I thought. Thanks for setting me straight

[Q] What "PC" model of DZ do you have ?

Just received my DZ (woo-hoo ! ).
On my phone (European model), looking under the battery cover, it seems to have a model designation of "PC10110". Based on my previous HTC phone (TP2) I am pretty sure this will be a model designation which is different on the G2, and I'm wondering whether it's also different for NAM DZs and also Asian DZs.
Anyone else got anything different ?
Nam dz = pc10120
Cool, this does help show us the differences then, that's what I was hoping. So when someone has a problem we can always use this to double-check exactly which model of DZ/G2 they have.
Anyone with an Asian DZ who can check this ? I've posted this on the G2 forums too, hopefully someone will tell us what the G2 says.
Asian (TW) PC10110
will_w said:
Asian (TW) PC10110
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Hmm, that's not what I was expecting lol. Thanks though !
Nordic version is also PC10110

what ROM for my Korean SM-N910S?

Hi All,
I got a note 4 (N910SKSU1ANJ1 build) and want to remove the branding with a stock rom, what one do i need? I am a bit of a n0b with this so want to double check before i brick this using odin or whatever.
thought it best to ask here.
my note is the exynos model.
than you.
N910L from korea too
And full of stock app
You mean the L version can be flashed on the S?
Now i think you shouldnt root your phone and wait for Lollipop coming at end november
All the models in Korea are from an operator, so all have some stuff inside.
You can flash S/L/K from the different operators.
can i flash a rom that will have no branding? if not i will wait for the lollipop update.
toffee_pie said:
can i flash a rom that will have no branding? if not i will wait for the lollipop update.
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Only custom roms.
Can i flash U f/w?
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM} 【Firmware:N910UXXU1ANIF】
or this one?
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}【Firmware:N910CXXU1ANIF】
I already flashed the latest f/w for the S model with the Korean telco SKT, I would like f/w as close to stock as possible, SKT has annoying pop up on the boot screen, it thinks i am roaming...! (am in the UK)
thanks.!
I got the U f/w, its from a New zealand carrier, is this ok to flash i wonder?
toffee_pie said:
I got the U f/w, its from a New zealand carrier, is this ok to flash i wonder?
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You can't but if you want to try...
If you wanted an unbranded phone why did you for the korean model ?
Lodix said:
You can't but if you want to try...
If you wanted an unbranded phone why did you for the korean model ?
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usually you can flash these to remove any branding, but i know its so new custom roms will take time.
if i flashed the U/C f/w would i brick it?
I dont want korean apps or pop up on the boot screen, my main grip at the moment.!
Lodix said:
You can't but if you want to try...
If you wanted an unbranded phone why did you for the korean model ?
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Man it's hard to come by these phones. Beggers can't be chosers
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toffee_pie said:
usually you can flash these to remove any branding, but i know its so new custom roms will take time.
if i flashed the U/C f/w would i brick it?
I dont want korean apps or pop up on the boot screen, my main grip at the moment.!
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What's battery life like on your S model? What UK network are you with?
I think it would be ok to flash but without the U or C radios. You flash at your own risk though!
I'm getting the S version and will try the U firmware as its closer to the S than the C is. I'm not liking the sound of the phone thinking it's roaming! Battery drain
I have not taken much notice on the battery., its a day or so. I have not monitored much.
I get a pop up every time i boot up about roaming and activating data? (in English).
I am with 3 but the phone is unlocked, I have all the exynos f/w ready to flash, I just want to double check before i do it..
and yes, its rare. not many have exynos models in the uk.
toffee_pie said:
I have not taken much notice on the battery., its a day or so. I have not monitored much.
I get a pop up every time i boot up about roaming and activating data? (in English).
I am with 3 but the phone is unlocked, I have all the exynos f/w ready to flash, I just want to double check before i do it..
and yes, its rare. not many have exynos models in the uk.
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Congratulations on your exynos model. Hope you're enjoying it. I will soon have my S model, would have preferred the C, I'm on three UK too so we'll be in the same boat.
Please let me know what screen brightness level you use and what kind of screen on time you get, please
lawtq said:
Congratulations on your exynos model. Hope you're enjoying it. I will soon have my S model, would have preferred the C, I'm on three UK too so we'll be in the same boat.
Please let me know what screen brightness level you use and what kind of screen on time you get, please
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the phone is smashing, no worries on that end, i have auto brightness and have not noticed anything. i got 48324 with the an tutu bench mark too, so all is well on the performance front :good:
i will do a battery check now and post back. I currently have the latest S f/w from the korean teleco.
Thank you so much. Let's see some screen shots!
And is fast charging working? As we'll have to use their funny Korean to UK adaptor lol
fast charging is very good, works fine.
plug is no problem, i got a shaver type plug you can get 2 pin adapters for uk use anywhere.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y8xqmd9r7yjlxfr/SAM_2981.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpi35tc9e64vwzn/SAM_2982.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjtky5624d9vui4/SAM_2985.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/97wvwedshx3np0o/SAM_2987.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kjgg1opydtd8us6/SAM_2988.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3s1214494xjx1q/SAM_2992.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yamo91x9h6bqajo/Screenshot_2014-10-20-10-42-34.png?dl=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHhkrOdRzs&list=UUGnmJDT7HTBLPg6K13mDTMw
it got a power saving mode too btw, you can apparently get crazy number of hours 'extra' with it activated when power is low, 10% or so. the screen will probably be very hard to see at that rate but hey ho...!
toffee_pie said:
it got a power saving mode too btw, you can apparently get crazy number of hours 'extra' with it activated when power is low, 10% or so. the screen will probably be very hard to see at that rate but hey ho...!
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Thanks very much for the pics! Mine will be black one. The YouTube clip not working though!
youtube should work, works for me..?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHhkrOdRzs&list=UUGnmJDT7HTBLPg6K13mDTMw
what are your thoughts on flashing the other roms (C & U)? when i boot into the android root update screen its all korean, so i am a bit worried i wont have a clue what to do,...
i cant imagine you can brick it by flashing them but just want to get others views? I got a Galaxy S4 in Thailand last year and it was 100% english off the box, also a exynos model, wonder can you flash Thai f/w with this?

where is 901F section?

I assume g900f roms wont work on the 901F? but I cannot find a 901F section, am I screwed for custom samsung based rom support?
I wanted to use neatrom in particular.
My fear is I wont even have any kernels to choose from.
The 900f is really hard to get hold of here as its now considered obsolete.
chrcol said:
I assume g900f roms wont work on the 901F? bu tI cannot find a 901F section, am I screwed for custom samsung based rom support?
I wanted to use neatrom in particurlar.
My fear is I wont even have any kernels to choose from.
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The issues is compared to the 900f the 901f is a very small userbase. more devs have got the 900f they also know the 900f will be better supported
chrcol said:
The 900f is really hard to get hold of here as its now considered obselete.
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thats some good old fashioned lies there
By obselete I mean no longer sold.
The biggest carrier in the UK only ships 901f's now. At least thats what I have been told, since the phone is arriving later today I will know soon.
-PiLoT- said:
The issues is compared to the 900f the 901f is a very small userbase. more devs have got the 900f they also know the 900f will be better supported
thats some good old fashioned lies there
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Absolutely Not, now in europe (France / germany / UK ...) only 901F is sold (because it got 4G+ and they start to do 4G+ in europe, at tv they do the pub for the '' 4G+'')
I already asked in the ''*** New Device Forum Requests ***'' But i don't know if XDA read it ...
901F got various threads now and it would be more easy for us if we have a section for us ...
there is a ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-simplegx-rom-v1-0-0-t2971815
a recovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/sm-g901f-to-s5-how-to-root-t2882104
a PIT files threads here http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-pit-files-t2965270/post57321166#post57321166
ect !
If you could have the courtesy to help us we would like it
Thanks +
androidrouen said:
Absolutely Not, now in europe (France / germany / UK ...) only 901F is sold (because it got 4G+ and they start to do 4G+ in europe, at tv they do the pub for the '' 4G+'')
I already asked in the ''*** New Device Forum Requests ***'' But i don't know if XDA read it ...
901F got various threads now and it would be more easy for us if we have a section for us ...
there is a ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-simplegx-rom-v1-0-0-t2971815
a recovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/sm-g901f-to-s5-how-to-root-t2882104
a PIT files threads here http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-pit-files-t2965270/post57321166#post57321166
ect !
If you could have the courtesy to help us we would like it
Thanks +
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My point was compared to the global version theres not a lot, 901f vs 900f
theres clearly more 900f users. maybe xda doesnt see the small amount of 901f users enough for adding a forum but i could be wrong, but also just because theres threads doesnt mean its in high enough demand
-PiLoT- said:
My point was compared to the global version theres not a lot, 901f vs 900f
theres clearly more 900f users. maybe xda doesnt see the small amount of 901f users enough for adding a forum but i could be wrong, but also just because theres threads doesnt mean its in high enough demand
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Did XDA wait for lots of users before adding 900F section's, I see posts in 900F section before 900F even in shops. So your point seems invalid.
chrcol said:
Did XDA wait for lots of users before adding 900F section's, I see posts in 900F section before 900F even in shops. So your point seems invalid.
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no because the 900f was the global gsm model. and a flagship so it automatically got a forum. the verizon and at&t didnt even arrive then.
at&t verizon etc. arent global, what qualifies them and not g901f?
chrcol said:
at&t verizon etc. arent global, what qualifies them and not g901f?
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I totally agree with you chrcol. I've also already post in the "***New Device Forum Request***" a few months ago, but still to no avail...
Why not ask for a common thread with the SM-G906 S5 models which are also using a snapdragon 805 ?
And I confirm that here in France, SM-G901F is what is most sell over the SM-G900F...
chrcol said:
at&t verizon etc. arent global, what qualifies them and not g901f?
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as theyre a variation of the f using the same hardware. more developers own the device so they were asked for and recived
ssndriver said:
I totally agree with you chrcol. I've also already post in the "***New Device Forum Request***" a few months ago, but still to no avail...
Why not ask for a common thread with the SM-G906 S5 models which are also using a snapdragon 805 ?
And I confirm that here in France, SM-G901F is what is most sell over the SM-G900F...
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just saying you can confirm, doesnt confirm anything, you need sources to confirm.
listen my answers arent to the question "why will we never get a section" its a reply to the question "where is the section"
the suggestions i have put forwards arent untrue the 900f is the bigger smartphone, that maybe why the 901f doesnt have a section.
tl:dr if you dont like hearing answers you dont like maybe you shouldn't ask questions in a forum where you'll be answered honestly
In Europe 901F is sold, so the number will increase more and more, due to the 4g+ deployment by operators. Why pissing on European like that ? ... not cool ...

Ouch! Did I Totally Buy the WRONG Note?

Bought a N-910S. That's what's floating around these parts, was a good deal, didn't think much of it.
But after the usual trip to XDA to find a good debloated, fancified Touchwiz based latest and greatest, I come to see ....
Not much of anything.
It's all 910C, 910H, whatever, but no 910S. Yikes. Yikes?!
What gives? Googled, searched, read, can't figure it out. No love for the 910S? Do I need to open my living room window super wide and throw this thing as far as I can? What will happen to the 5.1 update, and me-never-ever-getting-it?
Omg. Stop me from going crazy right now. Shed some light on this totally human life existential drama question.
wayandrs said:
Bought a N-910S. That's what's floating around these parts, was a good deal, didn't think much of it.
But after the usual trip to XDA to find a good debloated, fancified Touchwiz based latest and greatest, I come to see ....
Not much of anything.
It's all 910C, 910H, whatever, but no 910S. Yikes. Yikes?!
What gives? Googled, searched, read, can't figure it out. No love for the 910S? Do I need to open my living room window super wide and throw this thing as far as I can? What will happen to the 5.1 update, and me-never-ever-getting-it?
Omg. Stop me from going crazy right now. Shed some light on this totally human life existential drama question.
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Surely you jest. I would rather have the S version than the H version. At least you get LTE unlike me with my H version.
Well ... no LTE-A on any of the prepaid carriers here.
What about ROMs? Does nobody know? I quietly wonder if ROMs from any other 910x might work but not finding answers via search.
wayandrs said:
Well ... no LTE-A on any of the prepaid carriers here.
What about ROMs? Does nobody know? I quietly wonder if ROMs from any other 910x might work but not finding answers via search.
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The N910S is the equivanlent of the N910F in South Korea. There's not much info about it in internet, they seem to be the same device hardware-wise. They both use the same SoC and Modem so maybe N910F roms are cross-compatible with your device (They MAY be compatible or may not, If you want to use a N910F rom, do It at your own risk. Remember that a different rom in a non-compatible device would result in a hardbrick so be carefull). Download a N910F custom rom, delete the "modem" folder and flash it to your device via CWM, it may work.
galaxynote2 said:
The N910S is the equivanlent of the N910F in South Korea. There's not much info about it in internet, they seem to be the same device hardware-wise. They both use the same SoC and Modem so maybe N910F roms are cross-compatible with your device (They MAY be compatible or may not, If you want to use a N910F rom, do It at your own risk. Remember that a different rom in a non-compatible device would result in a hardbrick so be carefull). Download a N910F custom rom, delete the "modem" folder and flash it to your device via CWM, it may work.
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Good one appreciate the insight. Though... worried about hard brick.
They have to be selling millions of these 910s. This one came straight from Korea, s/l must be a big market. Odd that there'd be no demand and supply of ROM goodness, yea?

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