Greetings people on this forum, I just wanted to find out how to check the Bootloader status on my Note 3.
I bought this phone yesterday, and I thought I bought the Exynos version but apparently I got the Snapdragon 800 version signed to Verizon. Though I have my suspicions about my seller because they sold it to me in the spanish text box, stating it had the Exynos octacore chip inside. But I'm happy that it's not that version because the Snapdragon is better lol
It's the 32gb variant and I've been looking through the forums and saw the device has Cyanogenmod 11, but requires the Developer edition of the phone. Now I have absolutely no idea how to check bootloader status, which is why I'm posting here.
As you know, the model number is the SM N900V.
Any other information could be provided.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
rdar_93 said:
Greetings people on this forum, I just wanted to find out how to check the Bootloader status on my Note 3.
I bought this phone yesterday, and I thought I bought the Exynos version but apparently I got the Snapdragon 800 version signed to Verizon. Though I have my suspicions about my seller because they sold it to me in the spanish text box, stating it had the Exynos octacore chip inside. But I'm happy that it's not that version because the Snapdragon is better lol
It's the 32gb variant and I've been looking through the forums and saw the device has Cyanogenmod 11, but requires the Developer edition of the phone. Now I have absolutely no idea how to check bootloader status, which is why I'm posting here.
As you know, the model number is the SM N900V.
Any other information could be provided.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
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behind the battery it will say developer version or something like that while running you can use an app called Cpu-z to tell you much of the information you need to know and if you could tell us what version of android is running on it now we can tell you how screwed you are.
it should say something like this under baseband.
N900VVRUCNC4
If it says N900VVRUCNK1 and your android version is 4.4.4 your boned no root no roms.
nc4 has a slim glimmer of hope in that they forgot to blacklist the nc2 kernel and thus we have a way in with roms but as of yet there is no way to root NK1
rdar_93 said:
Greetings people on this forum, I just wanted to find out how to check the Bootloader status on my Note 3.
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I surmise that you want to know if your bootloader is locked or unlocked, correct?
Developer Edition phones have an unlocked bootloader. If you have a developer edition I would think you would have been so aware upon purchase. A seller would have made such a selling point.
If you have a Developer Edition, you will be able to use TWRP "recovery" to flash Cyanogen MOD. Of course, your phone will need to be rooted. Note, you will be limited to ROMs made exclusively for the Developer Edition.
Re Cyanogen Mod, if you have a Developer Edition you will be able to flash CM. If you do not then you will be somewhat limited
Cyanogen MOD for Dev Ed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600883
Jfyi, Verizon phones have a locked bootloader.
Fortunately, a forum member has provided a work-around recovery: Safestrap; which can be used to flash ROMs. Of course, your phone must be rooted. Though, because the bootloader is locked you will be limited in the (non-Dev Ed) roms and kernals available for use.
Safestrap Xda forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
mirrin said:
behind the battery it will say developer version or something like that while running you can use an app called Cpu-z to tell you much of the information you need to know and if you could tell us what version of android is running on it now we can tell you how screwed you are.
it should say something like this under baseband.
N900VVRUCNC4
If it says N900VVRUCNK1 and your android version is 4.4.4 your boned no root no roms.
nc4 has a slim glimmer of hope in that they forgot to blacklist the nc2 kernel and thus we have a way in with roms but as of yet there is no way to root NK1
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I took a snapshot of my cpuz and I've got the NC4 version so hopefully that counts for something lol I still dont know how to check for unlocked or locked status and it didnt say anything on the back of the phone. Plus I bought it from a retailer who I assume bought it refurbished and sold it here. Read the op and youll see why I say that lol but yeah if theres a tool I could use thatd be great
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Damn I was really hoping to get an AOSP rom for this phone. Touchwiz is so heavy
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Can you give me a short guide to follow?
Guys i tried rooting my sm n9005 using towelroot framaroot kingroot etc. But failed, does this mean that my bootloader is locked or something.?????
mohdfahad47 said:
Guys i tried rooting my sm n9005 using towelroot framaroot kingroot etc. But failed, does this mean that my bootloader is locked or something.?????
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No. It probably means you have upgraded your phone to a point where root is not attainable. Go into About Phone and see what version of the Android OS you are running. If it is 4.4.4, their is no root available for that.
Root and Bootloader are two different things. Bootloader is locked on our device as well.
christianpeso said:
No. It probably means you have upgraded your phone to a point where root is not attainable. Go into About Phone and see what version of the Android OS you are running. If it is 4.4.4, their is no root available for that.
Root and Bootloader are two different things. Bootloader is locked on our device as well.
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Oh..thanks for the info. Well im on kitkat 4.4.2. Ok wil my device get rooted if i try rooting from cf auto root?
mohdfahad47 said:
Oh..thanks for the info. Well im on kitkat 4.4.2. Ok wil my device get rooted if i try rooting from cf auto root?
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4.4.2 should be able to be rooted with TowelRoot.
https://towelroot.com/
Super easy. Just download to phone and run the .apk
What about 4.4.4 ???
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What about 4.4.4 ???
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Cannot save or install ROMs - Rooted, SafeStrap installed, Knox OK
Howdy, folks!
My Verizon Note 3 details: SM-N900V / Android 4.4.2 / Kernel 3.4.0-1487472 / build version NC4 / bootloader NC4 / Knox = 0x0.
Device is rooted (via TowelRoot and confirmed with Titanium Backup). SafeStrap 3.75 is "Installed". BusyBox 1.232 is installed.
As I understand it, in order to save or install ROMs I *must* use SafeStrap.
When I run SafeStrap the screen shows "State: Installed" and "Safe System: Not Active".
Tapping "Reboot to Recovery" does reboot the phone but I do NOT get any options to save or install any ROMs. The phone just reboots.
I thought I read somewhere I may need to (somehow) roll back to NC2...
Any ideas, folks?
Thanks!
TheMudshark said:
Howdy, folks!
My Verizon Note 3 details: SM-N900V / Android 4.4.2 / Kernel 3.4.0-1487472 / build version NC4 / bootloader NC4 / Knox = 0x0.
Device is rooted (via TowelRoot and confirmed with Titanium Backup). SafeStrap 3.75 is "Installed". BusyBox 1.232 is installed.
As I understand it, in order to save or install ROMs I *must* use SafeStrap.
When I run SafeStrap the screen shows "State: Installed" and "Safe System: Not Active".
Tapping "Reboot to Recovery" does reboot the phone but I do NOT get any options to save or install any ROMs. The phone just reboots.
I thought I read somewhere I may need to (somehow) roll back to NC2...
Any ideas, folks?
Thanks!
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You must have busybox installed for the safestrap install to truly work. So...install busybox, reboot, re-install safestrap, reboot and should now be able to reboot into safestrap recovery.
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FIXED!
Instead of removing SafeStrap to do clean reinstalls I just installed SafeStrap over itself.
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Hello everyone
I am looking to root and install a custom ROM on my AT&T S4 SGH-i337 (MF3) phone. The whole process is confusing... I see one video saying this and another saying that. I finally found a site to root my phone but the loki recovery step says "loki aboot version does not match device" while using Terminal emulator. I wanted to install the FOXHOUND ROM or something similar. I just wish someone had ONE place to get the correct information for your specific phone.
The link below is where I found out how to root my S4.
honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/08/how-to-root-galaxy-s4-at-sgh-i337-on.html
This is where I downloaded my loki recovery
galaxys4root.com/clockworkmodtwrp-recoveries
Thank you so much for ANY information you can provide!
capth4u said:
Hello everyone
I am looking to root and install a custom ROM on my AT&T S4 SGH-i337 (MF3) phone. The whole process is confusing... I see one video saying this and another saying that. I finally found a site to root my phone but the loki recovery step says "loki aboot version does not match device" while using Terminal emulator. I wanted to install the FOXHOUND ROM or something similar. I just wish someone had ONE place to get the correct information for your specific phone.
The link below is where I found out how to root my S4.
honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/08/ how-to-root-galaxy-s4-at-sgh-i337-on.html
This is where I downloaded my loki recovery
galaxys4root.com/clockworkmodtwrp-recoveries
Thank you so much for ANY information you can provide!
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If your phone came with MF3 already then I'm afraid you can't flash Custom Roms yet since the bootloader is locked my friend.
Sent From My Galaxy S 4 SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 Running On New Deadly Venom v8.0.0
I would highly recommend you stop everything you're doing and put some time into reading up about MF3. You are likely to bork your phone if you continue. Cheers
capth4u said:
Hello everyone
I am looking to root and install a custom ROM on my AT&T S4 SGH-i337 (MF3) phone. The whole process is confusing... I see one video saying this and another saying that. I finally found a site to root my phone but the loki recovery step says "loki aboot version does not match device" while using Terminal emulator. I wanted to install the FOXHOUND ROM or something similar. I just wish someone had ONE place to get the correct information for your specific phone.
The link below is where I found out how to root my S4.
honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/08/how-to-root-galaxy-s4-at-sgh-i337-on.html
This is where I downloaded my loki recovery
galaxys4root.com/clockworkmodtwrp-recoveries
Thank you so much for ANY information you can provide!
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As the others mentioned, you should read up more on MF3, and stop trying to do anything to it. MF3 is the firmware version AT&T pushed out after the Loki exploit was released, and with it they patched the exploit.
From this point, you have a couple options:
1. Root using this method, and then use Xposed mods to customize your stock rom.
2. Follow this thread closely, and wait for Hashcode to release a working version.
Oh, and get your information only from this site. Don't go to galaxys4root.
mattdm said:
As the others mentioned, you should read up more on MF3, and stop trying to do anything to it. MF3 is the firmware version AT&T pushed out after the Loki exploit was released, and with it they patched the exploit.
From this point, you have a couple options:
1. Root using this method, and then use Xposed mods to customize your stock rom.
2. Follow this thread closely, and wait for Hashcode to release a working version.
Oh, and get your information only from this site. Don't go to galaxys4root.
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Thank you... My phone is already rooted so what should I do? Should I just leave it as is and wait for a fix for the recovery?
capth4u said:
Thank you... My phone is already rooted so what should I do? Should I just leave it as is and wait for a fix for the recovery?
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For now there's nothing you can do till someone unlocks the bootloader you can use the MOD WanamXposed.1.4.2 look it up in playstore make sure if you use it to install
first XposedInstaller_2.1.4 then WanamXposed.1.4.2 that's if your wanting to custimize the stock rom a bit, Read the instructions in playstore for WanamXposed.1.4.2
capth4u said:
Thank you... My phone is already rooted so what should I do? Should I just leave it as is and wait for a fix for the recovery?
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From what I see is you have 2 options.
Option 1: Keep your phone rooted and don't mess anything up. So you have to be very careful while rooted and not mess with the system files.
Option 2: Check this thread out as someone was able to reflash their galaxy s4 on mf3 at Best Buy' Samsung Kiosk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432427&highlight=mf3
mattdm said:
As the others mentioned, you should read up more on MF3, and stop trying to do anything to it. MF3 is the firmware version AT&T pushed out after the Loki exploit was released, and with it they patched the exploit.
From this point, you have a couple options:
1. Root using this method, and then use Xposed mods to customize your stock rom.
2. Follow this thread closely, and wait for Hashcode to release a working version.
Oh, and get your information only from this site. Don't go to galaxys4root.
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Slightly offtopic but I notice Hascode is working on Verizon's S4. How will Hascode's version be compatible with AT&T? Is it mainly because both verizon & at&t have a similar locked bootloader?
capth4u said:
Thank you... My phone is already rooted so what should I do? Should I just leave it as is and wait for a fix for the recovery?
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At this point, there's no harm in installing the Xposed Framework, and using Wanam Xposed. There are a lot of cool tweaks in there, and the only requirement is root, which you already have.
haremmon said:
Slightly offtopic but I notice Hascode is working on Verizon's S4. How will Hascode's version be compatible with AT&T? Is it mainly because both verizon & at&t have a similar locked bootloader?
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In Hashcode's OP, he says that he is developing SafeStrap for "the locked versions of the Samsung Galaxy S4." I assume that means both Verizon and AT&T.
Pick up a s4 today that is on mf3. But i dont think it came shipped with mf3. I duno if this has been asked but can i downgrade it sense it wasnt shipped with mf3?
Finally got Kingo root to work, switched over to CF's SuperSU, etc.
Currently running Android 4.3, MJ7 Build, SM-N900V
Is there a way I can keep root? And is there any special way that I need to flash a ROM or is it the standard wipe and flash even though I'm switching android versions?
Thanks, XDA.
jakichan77 said:
Finally got Kingo root to work, switched over to CF's SuperSU, etc.
Currently running Android 4.3, MJ7 Build, SM-N900V
Is there a way I can keep root? And is there any special way that I need to flash a ROM or is it the standard wipe and flash even though I'm switching android versions?
Thanks, XDA.
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if you update to kk you will loose root
unless you trip knox, with a custom recovery for example.
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jakichan77 said:
Finally got Kingo root to work, switched over to CF's SuperSU, etc.
Currently running Android 4.3, MJ7 Build, SM-N900V
Is there a way I can keep root? And is there any special way that I need to flash a ROM or is it the standard wipe and flash even though I'm switching android versions?
Thanks, XDA.
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If you have Knox 0x0 then look at the Mobile Odin Pro thread here on N9005 - also ideally start looking after such a thread in the Verizon forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3
(or start one - if I am not mistaken the locked Verizon bootloader could create extra problems and everything would be nice to be documented somewhere).
xclub_101 said:
If you have Knox 0x0 then look at the Mobile Odin Pro thread here on N9005 - also ideally start looking after such a thread in the Verizon forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3
(or start one - if I am not mistaken the locked Verizon bootloader could create extra problems and everything would be nice to be documented somewhere).
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I guess I'll just wait until there's a for sure way I can keep root/get root back, but I'll for sure look into it on the Verizon Note forum.
Currently have SafeStrap after rooting with Kingo, not sure if that counts as a custom recovery (I don't know if holding down on volume and home when booting brings me to SafeStrap as I haven't tried yet, so I'm not sure if that's my recovery or if it's just some secondary recovery type deal).
Thanks everyone
Hello all. First off I have a I337m with baseband NE1. I never see this mentioned anywhere and wanted to know what I can do with this phone.
I've rooted already (with towelroot) and wanted to get a custom bootloader. I've read and read then read somemore but found too many mixed staments regarding this.
Can I install a custom bootloader (say through goo manager) without worries or is there more to it? Does it completely overwrite the stock bootloader?
Do I need to worry about Loki?
Can we use other carrier ROMs?
Is it safe to say that everything in this sub forum works with my device?
Im familiar with flashing and the likes coming from the S2 with CM10.2 but there are too many varients and mixed statments (old to new methods) and I can't for the life of me find direction.
This is what I know about the i337m, mind you I don't have the device:
You can root using chainfires cf-auto root
Use trwp manager to install twrp
You can flash any rom here and you don't need Loki
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Bluntified said:
Hello all. First off I have a I337m with baseband NE1. I never see this mentioned anywhere and wanted to know what I can do with this phone.
I've rooted already (with towelroot) and wanted to get a custom bootloader. I've read and read then read somemore but found too many mixed staments regarding this.
Can I install a custom bootloader (say through goo manager) without worries or is there more to it? Does it completely overwrite the stock bootloader?
Do I need to worry about Loki?
Can we use other carrier ROMs?
Is it safe to say that everything in this sub forum works with my device?
Im familiar with flashing and the likes coming from the S2 with CM10.2 but there are too many varients and mixed statments (old to new methods) and I can't for the life of me find direction.
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I have the same phone on Telus... as far as the "custom bootloader" I think you really mean custom recovery, I use TWRP version 2.7. You can also use Philz recovery or CWM but I perfer TWRP as it hasnt given me any issues. If you load TWRP don't go for the latest version as I have seen guys have problems with the latest and greatest.
Once you have twrp on your phone... before you do anything else... make a backup in twrp of your current rooted stock rom so you have a starting point. In twrp, I like to do all backups to the external sd card as there may come a time where you do a factory wipe... and poof its gone...
In the developement thread... there is a rom called Mapleleaf works very well on this phone... I run it myself with the googy-max3 kernel.
If you decide to flash anything else... make sure it will work for i337m, I have seen people get into trouble flashing things meant for the US version (i337). Our bootloader is unlocked so you don't need saftey strap or loki or other things that the i337 users need.
When in doubt... search the forum... if you find nothing... ask before you do anything strange.
As far as the bootloader goes... try to stay on your current one.. mine is still MK6. Once the bootloader is updated there is no going back... period.....
This helped a lot man, I appreciate it.
So just to clarify, can I use goo manager for the recovery or should I use Odin? And is there any version in particular [TWRP] that I should use? What version are you running?
How do I check my bootloader version?
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Bluntified said:
This helped a lot man, I appreciate it.
So just to clarify, can I use goo manager for the recovery or should I use Odin? And is there any version in particular [TWRP] that I should use? What version are you running?
How do I check my bootloader version?
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You can use goo manager or Odin. Just make sure you have the right version. FYI twrp 2.5.0.2 is the most reliable version that I have used for this device.
Tapatalked from California Custom Chrome M&M I337m
If you want an older version of twrp use odin... goomanager will likely try to load the latest version... as for checking which bootloader version you have, download the app phone info from the play store.... here... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en
my version of twrp is 2.6.3.1 and it works fine... as stated... 2.5 is also recommended by some of the devs....
My bootloader ends in NE1, does that pose a problem - I rarely see it mentioned anywhere? I took the OTA in case anyone is wondering. Basically, can I flash something that's not NE1?
Also, I've been reading that the ROM that's going to be flashed needs to be the same Android Version as the current one on the phone, is this still true?
Bluntified said:
My bootloader ends in NE1, does that pose a problem - I rarely see it mentioned anywhere? I took the OTA in case anyone is wondering. Basically, can I flash something that's not NE1?
Also, I've been reading that the ROM that's going to be flashed needs to be the same Android Version as the current one on the phone, is this still true?
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This will mean you can flash any rom (for i337m) that is 4.4.2 version of android. You can always go up on android version to bootloader but you can't go down versions unless the bootloader is an earlier version. Since most roms are 4.4.2 or higher, I don't think this should be an issue, not many people are looking to go to an older version of android..... bigger... better and all that...
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This will mean you can flash any rom (for i337m) that is 4.4.2 version of android. You can always go up on android version to bootloader but you can't go down versions unless the bootloader is an earlier version. Since most roms are 4.4.2 or higher, I don't think this should be an issue, not many people are looking to go to an older version of android..... bigger... better and all that...
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Is this true, bc I have a bell galaxy 4, 4.4.2 i337m NE1 , I want to install a custom recovery,
but I thought my bootloader was locked because its says write protection enabled on the download screen which I thought
meant the bootloader was locked.
strakn said:
Is this true, bc I have a bell galaxy 4, 4.4.2 i337m NE1 , I want to install a custom recovery,
but I thought my bootloader was locked because its says write protection enabled on the download screen which I thought
meant the bootloader was locked.
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The I337M bootloader is not locked. What you are seeing when you boot after rooting is that you tripped KNOX since new bootloaders are closely tied to KNOX so any violation = tripped KNOX.
I have I337M from Telus with NE1 bootloader (4.4.2) and custom Rom PhoeniX. Everything is great except a newly discovered TD Bank App and inability to link my TD Visa to it...
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
Dravekx said:
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
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I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
rdar_93 said:
I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
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That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Copied from another post I had.
I don't know much about the device which is why I'm trying to find out.
Dravekx said:
That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
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I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
rdar_93 said:
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
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Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
rdar_93 said:
I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
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Dravekx said:
Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
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Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
rdar_93 said:
Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
Dravekx said:
My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
rdar_93 said:
Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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The kernel can't be changed...although it can be "tuned" if you have root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58813428
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
BladeRunner said:
It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
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Thanks man, I was supposed to update this thread saying that I got through with the proper procedure for installing Jasmine Rom
Although I was running Eclipse before, and I wanted to try going back to stock but it just got stuck on the Verizon splash screen
I'm thinking it's because I had the NC2 kernel active when I should have gone back to the NC4 kernel
I looked for a NC4 kernel to flash but I only saw the modems and tar files, so not knowing if those were the same as kernels I decided to just try Jasmine. So far, I like it.
I have crazy battery drain though. I think it's because I'm running it in Slot 1
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
en11gma said:
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
rdar_93 said:
I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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Safestrap does not trip knox.
mjh68 said:
Safestrap does not trip knox.
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Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
rdar_93 said:
Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
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It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
mjh68 said:
It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
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Then I must be confused about what knox really is.
What is "Knox" then?
I bought a new/ used S5 (to replace my rooted S3) and had hoped to root it as well. Towel root made rooting very easy back then (for my S3) and now as I read the threads with people having the same S5 config as mine, there seems to be no way to root......not even by downgrading to 4.4. Is this correct ?
Being new to this, I am a bit confused about the other custom ROMs being discussed. Does my S5 need to be rooted to install a custom ROM ?
Thanks much
overheredg said:
I bought a new/ used S5 (to replace my rooted S3) and had hoped to root it as well. Towel root made rooting very easy back then (for my S3) and now as I read the threads with people having the same S5 config as mine, there seems to be no way to root......not even by downgrading to 4.4. Is this correct ?
Being new to this, I am a bit confused about the other custom ROMs being discussed. Does my S5 need to be rooted to install a custom ROM ?
Thanks much
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Correct, it's been said over and over in this forum. If you are on BOG5 you cannot root or downgrade. And yes, you must be rooted to run a custom ROM.
landshark68 said:
Correct, it's been said over and over in this forum. If you are on BOG5 you cannot root or downgrade. And yes, you must be rooted to run a custom ROM.
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thanks for responding... any guidance on how to disable apps without root access ? I've seen some youtube "how to" videos, but they arent specific to my phone.
thanks again
im rooted
landshark68 said:
Correct, it's been said over and over in this forum. If you are on BOG5 you cannot root or downgrade. And yes, you must be rooted to run a custom ROM.
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I just bought a s5 off ebay bog5 and its rooted..
build g900vvru2bog5
android 5.0 kltevzw
have titainium backup and it shows root. has SU and safe strap 3.75. but weird thing with safestrap is i dont get the slpash screen from it..
thats my problem. any thoughts?
jtskir222 said:
I just bought a s5 off ebay bog5 and its rooted..
build g900vvru2bog5
android 5.0 kltevzw
have titainium backup and it shows root. has SU and safe strap 3.75. but weird thing with safestrap is i dont get the slpash screen from it..
thats my problem. any thoughts?
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I was under the impression that safestrap didn't work with lollipop. That's why people used flashfire
ldeveraux said:
I was under the impression that safestrap didn't work with lollipop. That's why people used flashfire
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i think it will at least in my case.
im waiting for more feed back
this is what i got so far
I did everything to install busy box and safestrap correct with zero issues at all.. except when i go to reboot i never get the safestrap screen.. tried rebooting many times...
i am rooted
android 5.0
build # g900vvru2bog5
bootloader g900vvru1boc4
kernal 3.4.0-4782027
type kltevzw
any idea whats going on?
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You need to flash the NI2 kernel forest, then reboot. This should get you into SS. Look for NI2flasher.apk
You will also need to flash your build kernel (OG5) BEFORE you exit SS.