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[Q]Why run CM10 over Stock?

I have a question, I just got m nexus 4 and unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have cwm recovery. I came from a samsung galaxy s2 and ran cm10 on that phone and can understand why to run aosp on a samsung touchwiz based rom, BUT why go cm10 on a stock google rom? Besides adding a reboot menu, what does cm10 add extra? How much stability can it actually add to the phone?? Any input?
Also just wondering if franco kernel will work with stock rom?

I've always been a fan of going straight to CM10 or other custom ROMs with my previous phones to improve performance. With the N4 I feel that the stock performance is more than adequate and worth hanging onto. However, in my case, I really like the quick toggle mod that someone made which allows the quick settings tabs to become quick toggles instead of directing you to the settings menu. For this reason I decided to go with the MoDaCo custom ROM Because it is essentially the stock ROM + advanced power menu + quick toggle mod. It's perfect for me.
This go-around I'm going to give CM10.1 a couple months to turn into a 100% solid/bug free ROM before I consider switching to it. Right now people are reporting random weird issues with it such as invalid timestamps on text messages & issues with Wifi.

desiromeo719 said:
I have a question, I just got m nexus 4 and unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have cwm recovery. I came from a samsung galaxy s2 and ran cm10 on that phone and can understand why to run aosp on a samsung touchwiz based rom, BUT why go cm10 on a stock google rom? Besides adding a reboot menu, what does cm10 add extra? How much stability can it actually add to the phone?? Any input?
Also just wondering if franco kernel will work with stock rom?
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Adds much more than a reboot menu. Many of the CM10 features still haven't been merged yet either.
My main reasons: I prefer the CM toggles to any app substitute, Profiles, Quiet Hours, the notification light implementation, I'm a bit of a Theme Chooser whore.
There are substitutes for all of those things, but I prefer to have it as part of the system.
There are still quite a few things that are missing however, but they're working hard on making them ready for 4.2.1

^^ Quiet hours, good call. I forgot about that. It is a feature I definitely miss but can do without for now.

Well OP, you kinda answered your own question. It's the features of CM that makes people want to use it. It adds more functionality. Like what someone said in the thread, it's still being merged so it's a work in progress.
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Honestly, sometimes I question when the Android team will just start rolling in certain CM features by default.

CyanogenMod has features built in that is not offered on stock. On stock,you would probably have to download several apps just to get the same functionality that CM has.

sn0warmy said:
^^ Quiet hours, good call. I forgot about that. It is a feature I definitely miss but can do without for now.
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FWIW I haven't had any notable issues on 10.1 with the exception of the back button not exiting the browser a couple of nightlies ago. Has been very stable thus far.

CMNein said:
FWIW I haven't had any notable issues on 10.1 with the exception of the back button not exiting the browser a couple of nightlies ago. Has been very stable thus far.
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Maybe if I get bored over the holidays in the mountains I'll give CM10.1 a go and see how it fares.

The one feature I'm missing is the ability to change brightness by sliding the notification bar from left to right.
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zephiK said:
The one feature I'm missing is the ability to change brightness by sliding the notification bar from left to right.
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I miss the custom brightness levels as well, but the N4 screen doesn't seem to be as much of a hog as the GN thankfully.
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CMNein said:
I miss the custom brightness levels as well, but the N4 screen doesn't seem to be as much of a hog as the GN thankfully.
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Agreed. Really liking the nexus 4s screen. It's going to take some time getting used to the blacks, the blacks on gn definitely looked better as my beautiful widgets widget looks weird now. But for brighter colors and for viewing videos, the color reproduction for the ips is pretty astonishing.
Hopefully PGM makes it way to N4, that kernel module was so fun to use on my GN.
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Is stock good enough for you?

I've been playing with this tablet for about a day now and I must say, I don't think I've ever had the feeling that I didn't need to Root for any reason, but this tablet just works so well out of the box that I'm not missing anything in terms of performance or applications.
I was just wondering if anyone decided to forgo the flashing/rooting/roming process because the tablet just works.

Amen brother. So good out of the box... Just tasted Google Play Music as well... Wow! Almost don't even need Nova Launcher with stock JB 4.3 haha I might not bother rooting this time round unless something really uber comes along

Well I do think it is very nice out the box. Smooth and snappy. So, yes stock is good enough for me right now. I have root and recovery, so if some custom rom comes along and it looks interesting, I may try it out. However, until that image is released, everybody is going to be pretty close to stock. The only thing I don't like is the toggles/tiles don't work like they should. I tap the wifi tile and it opens the settings for wifi, not turn it on. Not a big deal tho...

Nope. I need the custom re-boot menu and quiet hours and I can no longer live without Pie.
THe stock worked perfectly tho. I had no issues at all.

Gotta have root for the six axis app so I can game it up with my ps3 c controller
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Grievance said:
Amen brother. So good out of the box... Just tasted Google Play Music as well... Wow! Almost don't even need Nova Launcher with stock JB 4.3 haha I might not bother rooting this time round unless something really uber comes along
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I ended up installing Action Launcher just to have those shutters and widgets

DaemonAshra said:
I ended up installing Action Launcher just to have those shutters and widgets
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Action Launcher doesn't count in this discussion, personally. It's basically good enough to kick the tar out of launchers on just about any framework you'll ever find (although it does look a tad out of place on my otherwise Sense-running HTC One).
Mostly yes, but I still root because I enjoy using Greenify and there are some other behaviors that require more permissions than stock Android will give us. The inclusion of the app permission manager though is quite wonderful.

mssam said:
The only thing I don't like is the toggles/tiles don't work like they should. I tap the wifi tile and it opens the settings for wifi, not turn it on. Not a big deal tho...
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Long hold. They reversed the behavior from 4.2. Short tap = settings, Long tap = toggle on/off. Quite honestly, I prefer it in the 4.3 way better. I really don't turn off WiFi or Bluetooth, and having to go settings -> wireless -> bluetooth to get to the bluetooth settings was a bit much.

I root for the couple of apps that need it, but I run stock otherwise. Did on my original N7 as well.

No stuck sucks..... waste...

aka420 said:
No stuck sucks..... waste...
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Thank you for that brilliantly enlightening post.

I am happy with my stock setup right now. I am unlocked and rooted though. I also tried a couple of kernels but I am back to stock kernel. Same with ROMs. I will continue trying new ROMs but will keep using stock for now. My ultimate ROM will be a stable/clean ROM with Tablet UI.

aka420 said:
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Thanks. You are a shining example of conversational excellence.

Stock rom will be good enough until all if not all issues are resolved with the CM. Till then, ijust have my N7 rooted for titanium back up and other misc apps that require root.

Stock is good enough for my needs, but I installed CM anyway just to get that little extra
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Running stock + Root + Extra Power Menu
At least right now that is good enough since its so quick. I'd like to try out other roms or have a good kernel but going to wait til more testing is done with what is out there and get some of the bugs worked out as I've tried them but get mixed results for performance and stability. Right now stability is key and performance is very good as is stock, but more is always better, in due time

I find I miss the little things CM had. For example when downloading. In stock the arrow stays there constantly lit, it doesn't do the animation.

Thing is, it might look and feel smooth, but it can always get better. Rooting and custom ROMS just simply allow the further enhancements, customization, smoothness, and potential to save battery life. I really don't see any reason not to Root/use custom ROMS for any case as long as your comfortable with the process. Maybe if the device was used for business i could understand that maybe, but for personal usage why not take advantage of whats out there instead of settling for less? It's not like it voids your warranty anyways when you can always restore it to stock before turning it in.

To be honest I cant see how anyone can live without some of the great things that require root
Linaro/03 optimized kernels
Overclocking
PER APP DPI
Trickstermod
Rom Toolbox
Lux autobrightnes (If you read books on this puppy it's a must)
Fully featured equalizer - seriously this needs to be universal on all devices
SD Maid
Titanium backup
Custom toggles, and AOKP ribbon controls
Custom boot animations
...Stickmount (don't you need root for this?)
And thats just off the top of my head stuff that I personally use all the time. So I guess most of that stuff could be run on a "stock" setup, but where is the fun in that. What is the point in investing in suck an awesome dev device, and not loading up on the fantastic tools that have been made possible through the hard work of XDA's members?
McKay91 said:
I find I miss the little things CM had. For example when downloading. In stock the arrow stays there constantly lit, it doesn't do the animation.
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Try a different browser, dolphin is awesome, and shows you tons of details when you download files. The notification icon itself is very unobtrusive.

Except that recent versions of dolphin have made it horribad. I found it so slow as to be unusable and have moved to chrome. Dolphin also force quits on my phone all the time for no apparent reason. Used to love it.
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Cyanogenmod 11 Snapshot M1 Released

Since I did not see a thread for the us nor do I see a development thread I thought I would let you guys know that M1 is released for us.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=flo&type=snapshot
Happy flashing!

Tried the 6-12 nightly and find that the USB-OTG is not working.

Cares said:
Since I did not see a thread for the us nor do I see a development thread I thought I would let you guys know that M1 is released for us.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=flo&type=snapshot
Happy flashing!
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I cannot download the recommended GApps from CM wiki for some reason. Would someone mind posting the 11/19 GApps please?
Thanks all,
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DatDude123 said:
I cannot download the recommended GApps from CM wiki for some reason. Would someone mind posting the 11/19 GApps please?
Thanks all,
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Yea it didn't work for me either. I just Googled and used http://d-h.st/mDt

Still i i don't find a reason to jump from stock to CM. Google updates are ahead right now, rom is smooth fast and stable, cm is not feature complete yet.

Spyr0s said:
Still i i don't find a reason to jump from stock to CM. Google updates are ahead right now, rom is smooth fast and stable, cm is not feature complete yet.
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Just personal preference. CM offers minor tweaks that are not available in Stock for some reason. Why don't they have a battery % is beyond my understanding.

Cares said:
Yea it didn't work for me either. I just Googled and used http://d-h.st/mDt
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Thanks dude. I was scared to use others but if you had success, screw it.
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Cares said:
Just personal preference. CM offers minor tweaks that are not available in Stock for some reason. Why don't they have a battery % is beyond my understanding.
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battery % is very small reason to jump right now, im fine with battery % under quick settings. I don't find it useful when you have a 4.000mAh battery but that's just a personal preference as you said.

Spyr0s said:
battery % is very small reason to jump right now, im fine with battery % under quick settings. I don't find it useful when you have a 4.000mAh battery but that's just a personal preference as you said.
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Here are some other things I appreciate in CM versus stock:
Custom tiles with touch and hold functionality
Expanded desktop
Configurable LED notifications
Advanced Power Menu
New Lock Screen options
Built in updater for nightlies

Flashed it on my N7 and N4 and it's stable. I noticed one minor but, it didn't restore my WiFi and wallpaper and start auto downloading apps after I logged in. Someone said that's because of the 0 day PA gapps I used. I've used the same one before and didn't have the issue so I'm not sure who's at fault here.
Haven't noticed any other bugs. No random reboots/app crashes, phone breaking bugs. I love it for all the tiny features. Hold vol buttons to forward, quick toggles, reboot menu etc.

Spyr0s said:
Still i i don't find a reason to jump from stock to CM. Google updates are ahead right now, rom is smooth fast and stable, cm is not feature complete yet.
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+1
Stock is more stable, and all custom kernels work
Ooc, is ART working in CM?
Nexus 7 LTE
Stock rooted KOT49E
Faux Kernel

In Google+ someone said ART works.

Cares said:
Here are some other things I appreciate in CM versus stock:
Custom tiles with touch and hold functionality
Expanded desktop
Configurable LED notifications
Advanced Power Menu
New Lock Screen options
Built in updater for nightlies
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You can get most of that by using xposed and still run stock with nexus updates. I understand running cm on a device that does not get updates like a nexus.

Raverbunny said:
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Stock is more stable, and all custom kernels work
Ooc, is ART working in CM?
Nexus 7 LTE
Stock rooted KOT49E
Faux Kernel
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Yeah, but waiting for Google to bug fix anything can take weeks if not months, with CM it can get done within hours/days.

I am using this and and seems great. Haven't had any issues at all other than the exact same MX Player issues that I was having on stock.

k3lcior said:
Yeah, but waiting for Google to bug fix anything can take weeks if not months, with CM it can get done within hours/days.
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As far as i remember CM11 had to be ironed out and not the official rom. In the beggining video playback was broken, then notification bar was flickering then wifi didn't work for some. Look at CM thread in other forums, 137 pages for CM11 in i9100 forum and only 12 pages in Nexus 7 forums. When people starts to feel bored with stock then they will jump to CM11 until PA comes out and then everybody will jump to PA:silly:

Camera app takes 5sec to open,

LoVeRice said:
Camera app takes 5sec to open,
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Same here, camera opens slow.
USB-OTG doesn't seem to be working too.
Currently using the 19-12 build.

bland.life said:
Same here, camera opens slow.
USB-OTG doesn't seem to be working too.
Currently using the 19-12 build.
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Yeah I've had all sorts of issues with otg
UPDATE
I Fixed, my otg issue. I flashed elementalx and made sure I didn't have the fast USB charging feature enabled. That seemed to do the trick for me. I hope others will have the same success.
-Wizzle

I also wondered why there wasn't an Official thread. I am running the 12/30 nightly now.. seems pretty good. I am still trying out all of the functions. I also just bought the tablet today.
https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=flo
Also using 12/08 gapps from Invisiblek's site..
http://www.invisiblek.org/gapps/
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LRX21R Improvements

I managed to install LRX21R update. Factory image Q first.
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.

reijndert said:
I managed to install LRX21R
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.
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i disable chrome and use chrome beta on all my devices. doesn't seem to get very warm for me

Is battery life better with Chrome Beta?

I tried to side load the ota and it errors at package.zip. copied it over to twrp and when I try to flash it it says it's meant for a flounder while I have a volantis device. I unlocked the boot loader, used CFroot, and flashed twrp after using the factory images for the previous release.

IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.

ky3bmu4 said:
IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.
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Enjoy what ever tablet you decide to get. :good:

Ramrod421 said:
Enjoy what ever tablet you decide to get. :good:
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Since I forgot my Nexus 10 in plane last december I owned the following tablets: samsung tab pro 8.4, samsung tab s 8.4, xiaomi mipad and now the nexus 9. Hatebto say it but this is the year I am extremely dissapointed with the absence of any progress on Android tablets.

ky3bmu4 said:
Since I forgot my Nexus 10 in plane last december I owned the following tablets: samsung tab pro 8.4, samsung tab s 8.4, xiaomi mipad and now the nexus 9. Hatebto say it but this is the year I am extremely dissapointed with the absence of any progress on Android tablets.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/nokia-n1-249-android-tablet-comes-lollipop-out-box

ky3bmu4 said:
IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.
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I'm going to assume you haven't investigated what is causing your wakelocks. because that is abnormal drain time for any device. you are on lollipop, running old KitKat and donut software most likely . there are a number of free LP compatible wake lock analyzing options out there. solve your problems (in turn, help others with same issue), or consider going back to a pager.
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I see no wake locs.
While screen off, it goes to deepsleep.
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reijndert said:
I managed to install LRX21R update. Factory image Q first.
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.
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I got R loaded up and re-reooted. I just opened up 8 tabs in chrome and clicked on links in all of them. The N9 is not as hot as it use to be. I'm still going to play around with it and monitor, but so far so good over here.

Just got a 17MB update from Q to R. I'm getting a lot of Wi-Fi dropouts.

accordex said:
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Interesting device but depends how the atom will work, screen, battery, etc
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Migamix said:
I'm going to assume you haven't investigated what is causing your wakelocks. because that is abnormal drain time for any device. you are on lollipop, running old KitKat and donut software most likely . there are a number of free LP compatible wake lock analyzing options out there. solve your problems (in turn, help others with same issue), or consider going back to a pager.
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Yeah I'm aware of such software and using it on my 1+1. However I wanted to at least try to use my Nexus 9 as "normal user" would do for the first time. Browsing still drains ridiculous amount of battery however I confirm that it is now much better on R build. And heating is much less.
Ps never owned a pager

any improvement on screen flicking?
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I got tired of waiting for Google to issue a working OTA for those of us stuck on LRX21L so I flashed the LRX21R factory image. I'm very happy with it and am glad I took plunge. Noticeable improvements on smoothness. Device still gets hots at times but its improved IMO.
FYI.. I tried following googles instruction for flashing the image. It didn't work.. It crapped out on the SYSTEM.IMG.
Manually flashing each of the IMG files went fine though and all is now working great.
Lastly,
I'd like to point out the the device restore feature worked much better than I had hoped. It even managed to keep app data settings on a couple of apps (that don't have sign in accounts).

Does Google Now from lock screen work for you after some time?

borchgrevink said:
Does Google Now from lock screen work for you after some time?
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Just flashed R and TWRP this morning. OK Google works from anywhere for me.

prdog1 said:
Just flashed R and TWRP this morning. OK Google works from anywhere for me.
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Try it from home screen. Then try it while off.
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ram130 said:
Try it from home screen. Then try it while off.
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Did. It works with black screen, lockscreen, homescreen, within apps, everywhere. You have it turned on in GNow settings?

Got the R update today. Seems good so far. :good:

[Q] New Samsung Note 4 owner, things I should know?

HI all.
I'm a new Samsung Galaxy Note 4 owner! Recently upgraded from a Note 3. Phones are years old but are decently priced and still good phones when you're not looking for something too fancy.
Honestly, the Note 3 was the best phone I've ever had and was looking forward to a Note 4 upgrade (was looking forward to the fingerprint scanner, even if not the best, and to the metal edges)
Now, I'd just like to ask for a few pointers on this device. Any custom ROM suggestions? Anything I should know about?
I am doing my fair share of research, I've been reading a lot of posts regarding this device, posts that are months old, posts that are years old and I've gotten myself a general idea of what to expect.
But I think even with all this reading, I probably won't be able to compare what I learn from these posts to someone that has owned a Note 4 for months, possibly years! Which is why I'm posting this thread, to ask those who have had this device for a longer time and will probably continue to use it for a longer time since this phone is amazing!
I just want to ask you Note 4 owners, if you bought a brand new Note 4, what set-up will you prefer? Custom ROM? Stock ROM? Any kernels you would flash?
I know the best ROM will always be stock ROM, but is there any worth-while N7 ports for the Note 4? I'm a big fan of the off-screen memo, the smart screen capture (scroll and screen-recording that records gifs) and also enjoy tweaking the kernel (overclock) for smoother game performance. I've also read that the most common problem with ports is the fingerprint scanner. I'll probably end up doing the work-around since no custom ROM has gotten this fixed (from what I read it's almost impossible without leaving a lot of the stock ROM's assets which defeat the point of a custom ROM).
Currently, I am downloading stock EQI2 6.0.1 which is the latest firmware for the N910T variant. I know that the T-Mobile variant has it's own forum but I usually see that the "Samsung Galaxy Note 4" thread is the most active and sometimes includes things for the T-Mobile variant (was the same case with the Note 3, the T-Mobile forum was dead and the international forum was alive and well)
It's running 5.0.1 software right now, hopefully 6.0.1 is better.
Thank you for your time!

I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.

ripee said:
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
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Thanks for your input, I am currently trying out a Note 7 ROM port, but if it doesn't work out I will try it out

Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.

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Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Been snooping around and messing with a couple of custom ROM's either with Note 7/8 features and S7 Edge/S8.
I really like the look overall to the stock Note 4 UI, but I seem to have a very bad luck with random reboots and some features missing (fingerprint) or not working (night clock).
I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
Yup, I guess my motto came true. "The best ROM is always STOCK ROM", even if it looks a bit out-dated.
I'm currently running stock and a custom kernel I found for stock MM. I'm pleased with the results so far, just kind of wish I could boot straight in to camera with double HOME press

Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.

snatch_bill said:
Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?

ShaDisNX255 said:
That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!

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I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 3 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:

ShaDisNX255 said:
I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 4 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.

snatch_bill said:
IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:

ShaDisNX255 said:
So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.

snatch_bill said:
In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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Yeah, I'll take my precautions. Thank you for your input

I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !

r33fd said:
I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
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The only small problem I have with stock is that it looks outdated. I know visuals are the least you should look for in a ROM, should be more worried about stability and battery life, but I simply can't deny that visually, stock TW UI bothers me.
But I guess I'll have to get used to it anyway since all the ROMs I've tried have issues here and there, but most importantly I get random shut downs and reboots with most custom ROMs and I lose the fingerprint scanner.
As for games, I heavily play a game called Shadowgun Deadzone. It's not that graphics heavy, but I need it to run smooth. I haven't tried Samsung's game booster, I've only messed around with custom kernels and changing the CPU governor, overclocking, etc... and it runs fine for a little while, but starts chugging after a few minutes in.
If the game booster can fix this, heck I can stick with stock ROM without any problems.

When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..

nutpants said:
When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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A launcher can only do so much. I'm referring to mostly on things like the notification drawer, the settings and stuff like that.