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Just me venting about CM

Cyanogenmod, my what a terrible, terrible direction you have gone. Talk about fragmentation, most devices are lagging behind stock updates? What happened to latest and greatest before the official updates?
Im so butthurt

I think they have just bit off more than they can chew. By constantly adding devices, it seems the quality is going down dramatically and it is harder to keep all the devices up to date.

You think you have it bad? Just imagine how the people that wasted $600 dollars on the cyanogenmod version of the Oppo N1 feel. $600 for a phone that was suppose to be supported by cm and receive updates in a timely fashion, which is still stuck on 10.2 jellybean for its last stable release. And these guys claim they're going to be able to update the one plus one for two years? Ha, we'll see.

If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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dethrat said:
If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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fermasia said:
That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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dethrat said:
I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.

Maybe it would be great do have info about known issues updated: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Known_Issues_page_for_falcon?setlang=en-gb. And less disappointment would arise.

You do realize that updates depend on the device maintainer, and if there isn't any then we won't get updates?

fermasia said:
Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.
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That's the reason why when I got my current XT1033, I don't bothered to root and install custom roms! With Motorola still timely updating their software, that's no reason for custom roms. My previous phone Sony X8, I rooted and install various CM based roms, In my opinion, new functions/features were introduced for the sake of adding a long list of features in that roms without considering the stability and functionality issue, while at the same time more and more bugs were introduced. Many times the phone just don't worked when its matter most! Real frustrated but you can't complain because all are worked on their own freewill basis.

I have installed CM 10.2.1 on two Nooks because the Nook software, based on 4.0.4, is crap, IMO. I also have a 2013 Nexus 7 and my wife has a Moto X. I wouldn't dream of putting CM on either of those devices. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. YMMV.
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Any chance of Omni developing for Bacon (OnePlus One)?

I would really love to have Omni on my OnePlus One. Any chance of xplodwild getting/wanting a device? I imagine the Omni team has had the opportunity to get the device but in the off chance that they haven't, I have an invite for the sake of development.

iamacronym said:
I would really love to have Omni on my OnePlus One. Any chance of xplodwild getting/wanting a device? I imagine the Omni team has had the opportunity to get the device but in the off chance that they haven't, I have an invite for the sake of development.
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I already let an invite lapse. OnePlus has been lying and spouting bull**** for way too long, I'm not sending them my money and I'm not really motivated to spend any time on them either. I MIGHT update my hackpatch this weekend to support the possibility of doing a blind build. Most of the rest of the Omni team feel the same way at this point.
Graffixnyc did a few builds for find7op with my hackpatch but I think he sold his device.
The good news is that the find7op is 95%+ identical to the find7a, so it's not TOO hard for someone who knows what they're doing and actually wants to bother with it to support the find7op. Problem has been lack of people who both know what they're doing and want to screw around with OnePlus these days. If it weren't for this commonality (which OnePlus consistently lies about on a regular basis...) the find7op would probably be dead in the water with Omni.
There's some dude who is interesting in taking a crack at being maintainer, but he's on a long vacation (lucky Europeans!) until September.

Although this post is old I just wanted to say that I'd like to try omnirom but if it was official I'd feel better than some dude test and try(blindly)
We have the phone, ok 1+1 lies a lot* but now it's a bit late I think + I couldn't stay with my DHD any longer ...so much lag answering simple calls I was forced to move
*They promised us lolipop with CM12s and OxygenOS(official vanilla rom) in fed 12, now it's in march for no reason who knows if these roms are ready by march
CM was suppose to deliver first in late of jan, then first days of feb, then 12th of feb now march ...they seem to be scrwng with us in regular bases

I'll take a crack at this, I happen to like blind-builds and have a lot of experience with doing things this way; my resume is in my sig
Edit: I'll go for a source-built but if I'm unable to do this I can surely fork it onto your stock ROM

evronetwork said:
Although this post is old I just wanted to say that I'd like to try omnirom but if it was official I'd feel better than some dude test and try(blindly)
We have the phone, ok 1+1 lies a lot* but now it's a bit late I think + I couldn't stay with my DHD any longer ...so much lag answering simple calls I was forced to move
*They promised us lolipop with CM12s and OxygenOS(official vanilla rom) in fed 12, now it's in march for no reason who knows if these roms are ready by march
CM was suppose to deliver first in late of jan, then first days of feb, then 12th of feb now march ...they seem to be scrwng with us in regular bases
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OnePlus is find7op as far as Omni goes
We had nightlies for it with 4.4 and it'll get brought back with 5.0 - we're just behind schedule for 5.0 across the board for a variety of reasons. Starting this week I should have more time for Omni and one of the other core team should be getting more free time in the next few weeks, so we'll hopefully get caught up soon.

Entropy512 said:
OnePlus is find7op as far as Omni goes
We had nightlies for it with 4.4 and it'll get brought back with 5.0 - we're just behind schedule for 5.0 across the board for a variety of reasons. Starting this week I should have more time for Omni and one of the other core team should be getting more free time in the next few weeks, so we'll hopefully get caught up soon.
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find7op is similar to 1+1 but not 100% from what I hear

evronetwork said:
find7op is similar to 1+1 but not 100% from what I hear
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What you hear is wrong. find7op is 1+1 - that's what the "op" stands for. OnePlus

Entropy512 said:
What you hear is wrong. find7op is 1+1 - that's what the "op" stands for. OnePlus
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cool

**Rumour** One Plus to soon abandon CM and ColorOS **Rumour**

well guys i just came up with this news and i have heard this before but i never saw any news today sombody on fb shared this so i am really dissapointed by OnePlus :/ i was thinking to get one plus on and i m trying my best to get an invite but i guess now i have to wait for a official word on it
What do you think guys should they make their own ROM or use CM use the poll .!!
Source: http://www.tech-feed.com/technology/oneplus-abandon-cyanogenmod-coloros/

We still need the confirmation to this rumor, but if it's true, there will always be a CM rom for the OPO! All we need to do is root it and flash it.

A Tech blogging site, that doesn't quote any form of source in their article, or postulate why it might be in a company's best interest to skin their own version of Android, OR do anything other than say, they are working on their own version.... That's high school level rumor mongering. Sure it's possible.... but hey, guess what, it's already a CM compatible phone, who cares if they skin their own version of Android?

theres so many stupid fake rumors coming out of the rumor mill lately. they couldnt abandon cm if they tried. thats what happens when you sign paperwork and cm run the fastboot software and recovery.

there will be 2 years of support from CM for this device, so do not worry ^_^

funCrash93 said:
there will be 2 years of support from CM for this device, so do not worry ^_^
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Thank you guys well the site does provide a valid Source and this news came a week ago when people in china said that they don't like CM UI so OPPO started making its own UI
Its not 100% and not 100% true as the blog says

Even if they make their own there will still be cm officially. Its likely they may just want their own skin but only provide it as an optional alternative.
This is assuming the unlikely rumor actually turns out true. But assumptions on a rumor aren't reliable so take it lightly.

tiny4579 said:
Even if they make their own there will still be cm officially. Its likely they may just want their own skin but only provide it as an optional alternative.
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yeah this is what i read but i am a CM fan and getting special treatment from CM is always welcome as the speed of development of CM will be faster for 1+1 as compared to others

I call bs. Color os is about as Chinese as you can get.
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Doesn't bother me. I install Apex launcher and then I like ColorOS. I even install Apex CM11, i hate the stock Android and Trebuchet launchers. ColorOS has some nice features that I miss when running CM.

So long as CM doesn't stop supporting it. It's all good lol
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They already released an AOSP rom available to flash via the Development category on the oneplus forum. The only thing it's missing is the gapps.

Don't believe it!
Oneplus i very highly doubt would switch ROMs so suddenly. And Color OS is getting pretty popular for phones in China it seems, do not lose hope friend!

vladashram said:
They already released an AOSP rom available to flash via the Development category on the oneplus forum. The only thing it's missing is the gapps.
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There's a reason they made the aosp ROM and not someone else, there aokp and paranoidandroid but there's no aosp group. The only way there would be an official aosp ROM would be if oneplus made it. It's based off cm source, oneplus has done no software development for the device. And the fact that gapps is separate actually says a lot. You can't just put on aosp and sell the device. The phone would not be Google certified. It took weeks for them to fall in line with Google's new strict standards.
Shipping ask that cyanogen inc. Works very closely with them. I think Steve klondik technically works for both companies. There's is no way they would ever end there partnership. The whole company is based around it. It's yet another fake rumor like the OnePlus tab and OnePlus two and onewatch. Best just to ignore it.
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The OP twisted topic name of the thread.
OnePlus is dropping ColorOS for their own ROM but international will still have CyanogenMod as the default ROM.
Read more, http://www.cnet.com/news/oneplus-to-drop-color-os-in-china-to-develop-its-own/

I heard a rumor that OnePlus was licensing TouchWiz from Samsung
Seriously, garbage rumors like this get floated all the time to force companies to make statements denying or clarifying the rumor. OnePlus is better off ignoring it.

new rom x oneplus one?

CafeKampuchia said:
I heard a rumor that OnePlus was licensing TouchWiz from Samsung
Seriously, garbage rumors like this get floated all the time to force companies to make statements denying or clarifying the rumor. OnePlus is better off ignoring it.
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Touchwiz people are already tortured by that ****ty UI and if OnePlus adds that then samsung will sue them

jatin059 said:
Touchwiz people are already tortured by that ****ty UI and if OnePlus adds that then samsung will sue them
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So will I

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So will I
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OxygenOs is out

Just saw it was released, who's porting it to the nexus 6? Sucks PA is dead for now but I'm sure oxygen will be good

Isn't oxy os just aosp with a few minor tweaks ?
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Yes it is but none the less always nice to see new things. And arnt all Roms a modified aosp? Cm,omni

I would love to see a port! And it bumped to 5.1 woohoo!

Not open source or for this device so pretty unlikely
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akellar said:
Not open source or for this device so pretty unlikely
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How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?

Frozt said:
How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?
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Ever heard of touchwiz, sense, blur, etc?
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Frozt said:
How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?
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Android is open source yes however the skins, customizations and frameworks companies do to it are not.
Is there much of a need for a pott of this anyway? Its got less features than cyanogen nightlies have atm and is pretty much a very basic ROM as it stands atm. Most of the things CM12s didn't even make it over to oxygen (yet)
I do hope the PA guys can now get a new build out for everyone else soon. The gerrit had a a couple of weeks of no movement there.

Roxas598 said:
Android is open source yes however the skins, customizations and frameworks companies do to it are not.
Is there much of a need for a pott of this anyway? Its got less features than cyanogen nightlies have atm and is pretty much a very basic ROM as it stands atm. Most of the things CM12s didn't even make it over to oxygen (yet)
I do hope the PA guys can now get a new build out for everyone else soon. The gerrit had a a couple of weeks of no movement there.
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That's because they got pissed and they pulled out of XDA, I'm sure they're taking a long break from PA

Smallsmx3 said:
That's because they got pissed and they pulled out of XDA, I'm sure they're taking a long break from PA
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what are they pissed of? so far PA is doing quite well then suddenly development stopped from 5.0 onwards.
Looks very AOSP to me now, only a few minor tweaks.
hope someone could port this!

bradputt said:
what are they pissed of? so far PA is doing quite well then suddenly development stopped from 5.0 onwards.
Looks very AOSP to me now, only a few minor tweaks.
hope someone could port this!
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I don't know anything about this particular situation but my read is that they got an actual paying job to make Oxygen so PA got put on the back burner. If they got hit by some flank on XDA over some issues it would further drive them into paid work vs unpaid as PA is a very non-funded project. I doubt we'll see a port of this. The big push from OnePlus with going with there own custom OS was some mix of butthurt about cyanogen and the ability to further control the OS/have unique features. I am also very certain that there job contract will exclude them from being able to 'port' features from OxygenOS back into PA or some other rom.

There is literally nothing unique to OxygenOS this early in the game. It's AOSP with QS customizations and the gestures from ColorOS.

akellar said:
Ever heard of touchwiz, sense, blur, etc?
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Aren't those skins?

thunderx2000 said:
Aren't those skins?
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Same as OxygenOS, yes

My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.

Circaflex said:
My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.
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They already said they won't I believe.

Circaflex said:
My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.
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I don't see a reason why they would release anything other than finished builds at this point.

8Fishes said:
I don't see a reason why they would release anything other than finished builds at this point.
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because android is open and their devs preached how cyanogen was breaking the mold of open android, yet they do the exact same?

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because android is open and their devs preached how cyanogen was breaking the mold of open android, yet they do the exact same?
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They just have no business sense. Now that they're getting paid to code, they understand they don't own the code they produce, the people that pay them for their work own it. Same thing with Cyanogen, they can't get investors to put money into software that is publicly published or it isn't worth anything. Problem with that situation is that a lot of CM commits were made by the community not solely by the guys who started it.

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They just have no business sense. Now that they're getting paid to code, they understand they don't own the code they produce, the people that pay them for their work own it. Same thing with Cyanogen, they can't get investors to put money into software that is publicly published or it isn't worth anything. Problem with that situation is that a lot of CM commits were made by the community not solely by the guys who started it.
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trust me, i agree with what you just said. I have preached that to the zealots who wanted to flame cyanogen, like you said it wasnt cyanogens code to share because of the deal with one plus. No one seemed to understand that.

CM14 Nexus 6p

There is any new on the horizon for cm14 on Nexus 6p? I searched a lot around the forums but did not find something...

vagenrider said:
There is any new on the horizon for cm14 on Nexus 6p? I searched a lot around the forums but did not find something...
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You found nothing because there's nothing, they just announced they'll release it but google has still to release most of the blobs,so you'll have to wait for cm14

That's weird because there's cm14 builds up for oneplus one and nexus 5. Guess they still have a lot more dev support than we do, though.

xxBrun0xx said:
That's weird because there's cm14 builds up for oneplus one and nexus 5. Guess they still have a lot more dev support than we do, though.
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Really? Are they full cm14 or just a stock-ish android nougat port for these devices?

Pretty sure cm14 is stock nougat at this point.

My only thoughts on this are why has Nexus 6P not had the cm-14.0 branch pushed yet? You'd think with it being a nexus device it would have been one of the first to get at least the device sources updated.
There are several different devices with this branch and work done so far, but nothing yet for the 6P.
Just find it odd, regardless of actual progress on CM14 itself.

Why is everyone in such a rush man?
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Jammol said:
Why is everyone in such a rush man?
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It is not that rush so much my friend.. simply had this wonder like many other users I guess
kronflux said:
My only thoughts on this are why has Nexus 6P not had the cm-14.0 branch pushed yet? You'd think with it being a nexus device it would have been one of the first to get at least the device sources updated.
There are several different devices with this branch and work done so far, but nothing yet for the 6P.
Just find it odd, regardless of actual progress on CM14 itself.
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I agree with you and will also add that I expected more development on this device
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Pretty sure cm14 is stock nougat at this point.
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Really? Are they full cm14 or just a stock-ish android nougat port for these devices?
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i think stock'ish

vagenrider said:
It is not that rush so much my friend.. simply had this wonder like many other users I guess
I agree with you and will also add that I expected more development on this device
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It just seems like everyone wants things now now now. Factory images barely got put up yesterday? As far as development goes, I'm one of those old school flashers, there's only so much you can do with the same software. Pretty much all of the Roms are the same, with the same tweaks just under a different name. Am I the only that has thought this? ?
I feel like there's a lot of development for this device but it just all seems like the same. Then again, maybe everyone just wants more "development" to satisfy our flasholic syndrome???
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You don't have to be so pompous.

Really though, give it a few weeks at least. The last thing you want is a super early new major CM version. (or really any new Android version jump). Even as a old time Flashaholic, going from a major version (4.X-5.0) (5.X-6.0) is always a bit jaring in the lack of polish and stability as not only does the OS need some patching to fix bugs that inevitably exist, but the Apps aren't ready yet.
I have to admit, that 6.0.1 has been pretty darn smooth and unlike the 5.X days, 5.1 was ok when it was polished but the early 5.0 days was downright retarded (though pretty vs KK before it). And KK itself was great around 4.4.2-4.4.4 as well.
But on top of that, I love CM from the old days, but man first version were always a crapshoot and while they might perform ok for a bit, usually on all my devices after a few weeks of use would show some major signs of underlying bugs that took months to patch out, if ever. :/
As far as stability goes, I am sticking with Pure Nexus's 8/21 build and ElementalX's 1.22 Kernel build until 7.1 drops or something because this is the most stable my 6P has been in months. Closest it's been to running like the HTC10 which has been polished to a pretty dang good shine from HTC since its release as well. Prior to this, random slowdowns or the occasional random reboot were getting a bit annoying, and I don't see Android 7.0.0 being anywhere near stable enough to DD right now...

Jammol said:
It just seems like everyone wants things now now now. Factory images barely got put up yesterday? As far as development goes, I'm one of those old school flashers, there's only so much you can do with the same software. Pretty much all of the Roms are the same, with the same tweaks just under a different name. Am I the only that has thought this? ?
I feel like there's a lot of development for this device but it just all seems like the same. Then again, maybe everyone just wants more "development" to satisfy our flasholic syndrome???
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You have a point, which is why I get excited when I see something with a new name, but the exact same features as resurrection, aicp, du, etc...Enjoy the work of those who wanna make the ROMs, but OP has a point...
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hope we will see soon an unofficial build!

I had tried this: http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/nexus-6p-cm14-cyanogenmod-14-nougat-7-0-rom/
The conclusion is it can't find the sim card (China Unicom), and I can't downgrade to cm13, and can't flash to cm13, it always stuck in the boot.
Now I am using the official Naught from Google.

You mean like this thread you clearly missed in the development forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-cyanogenmod-14-0-t3470615