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[Q] A quick question.

I recently obtained an Xperia Play for myself from Verizon. I was wondering if any of you think I should root it or not. I have rooted my old Droid1 and have flashed a few roms on it. I am just finicky about doing this phone since it is brand new to me and the bootloader was just unlocked recently. I don't really want to brick my phone (I'm quite sure no one does.)

Hemingsent said:
I recently obtained an Xperia Play for myself from Verizon. I was wondering if any of you think I should root it or not. I have rooted my old Droid1 and have flashed a few roms on it. I am just finicky about doing this phone since it is brand new to me and the bootloader was just unlocked recently. I don't really want to brick my phone (I'm quite sure no one does.)
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how can your brick your phone rooting if anything you have done the only risky thing unlocking your bootloader

No, I haven't done anything with it yet.

Hemingsent said:
No, I haven't done anything with it yet.
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you said in your op that "the bootloader was just unlocked recently"

What I meant was that the verizon model was successfully unlocked, not that I had unlocked mine.

So to clarify, I will have to unlock my bootloader in order to obtain root for my Verizon R800x? Also, it will brick if I use an OTA update while it is unlocked? If this is so is it possible to relock the bootloader in order to avoid bricking it? I want to make sure I know as much as I can before attempting to root my play.

Hemingsent said:
1. I will have to unlock my bootloader in order to obtain root for my Verizon R800x?
2. will brick if I use an OTA update while it is unlocked?
3. If this is so is it possible to relock the bootloader in order to avoid bricking it?
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1. Yes
2. Yes, any official updates (Pc companion, OTA, SEUS) will brick your phone
3. Yes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134334&page=5, But i dont know if it works on the r800x. I think blagus is waiting for someone to test it. Ask on that thread if its working or not. In the case on the r800i you can relock the bootloader from the link above and then use offical updates again.
Tbh you might get more info if you check out the R800X Bootloader CRACKED! thread

Okay, thank you a ton. I have been reading a lot of these forums lately and haven't found a clear answer for my questions until now. I was reading that blagus is waiting for someone to test it but the last post is from the 8th. Now I just play the waiting game.

[Q] Using Atrix 4G in India

Hi Guys,
I'm about to buy a Motorola Atrix 4G sim-unlocked phone here in India, through eBay. I got confirmation from the seller that it is an imported phone from US which has been unlocked for international carriers. I've a few questions now:
1. Does GB 2.3.4 come with an unlocked bootloader, so that I need not do anything to unlock it myself?
2. If no, then will I be able to unlock the bootloader using the method given in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
I can see that there is a lot of community support for this phone and I would love to root it and install custom ROMs on it. Please clarify me on the above points.
Thanks in advance.

gkarthik16 said:
Hi Guys,
I'm about to buy a Motorola Atrix 4G sim-unlocked phone here in India, through eBay. I got confirmation from the seller that it is an imported phone from US which has been unlocked for international carriers. I've a few questions now:
1. Does GB 2.3.4 come with an unlocked bootloader, so that I need not do anything to unlock it myself?
2. If no, then will I be able to unlock the bootloader using the method given in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
I can see that there is a lot of community support for this phone and I would love to root it and install custom ROMs on it. Please clarify me on the above points.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Karthik,
I have also bought through Ebay.
1. Does GB 2.3.4 come with an unlocked bootloader, so that I need not do anything to unlock it myself?
A) If the phone is sim unlocked than most probably it has unlocked bootloaded. You can check this by restarting the phone, if UNLOCKED is displayed at the top during booting, then its bootloaded has been unlocked.
2. If no, then will I be able to unlock the bootloader using the method given in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
A)I have used the same method for unlocking my phone.

rockydev said:
Hi Karthik,
I have also bought through Ebay.
1. Does GB 2.3.4 come with an unlocked bootloader, so that I need not do anything to unlock it myself?
A) If the phone is sim unlocked than most probably it has unlocked bootloaded. You can check this by restarting the phone, if UNLOCKED is displayed at the top during booting, then its bootloaded has been unlocked.
2. If no, then will I be able to unlock the bootloader using the method given in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
A)I have used the same method for unlocking my phone.
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Thanks for the reply. I do not see the UNLOCKED text while booting up. so probably the boot loader is still locked.
In the thread which you used to unlock, there is no step to root the phone after unlocking the boot loader. After unlocking, the next step is installing a custom recovery. So how do we root it? I don't want to explore multiple threads as the instructions are confusing. Please help!
Thanks in advance.

rockydev said:
A) If the phone is sim unlocked than most probably it has unlocked bootloaded. You can check this by restarting the phone, if UNLOCKED is displayed at the top during booting, then its bootloaded has been unlocked.
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This is NOT TRUE..
Sim Unlock and Bootloader Unlock are different.
Bootloader Unlock will allow you to install any other firmwares. This will display Unlocked message on bootup.
SIM unlock will allow to use other carriers SIM card other than Orginal carrier.
For Ex. if you have ATT US Atrix, you wont be able to use it for other networks until you perform SIM unlock. This will not display Unlock message on bootup.

sakdroid said:
This is NOT TRUE..
Sim Unlock and Bootloader Unlock are different.
Bootloader Unlock will allow you to install any other firmwares. This will display Unlocked message on bootup.
SIM unlock will allow to use other carriers SIM card other than Orginal carrier.
For Ex. if you have ATT US Atrix, you wont be able to use it for other networks until you perform SIM unlock. This will not display Unlock message on bootup.
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Yeah that I figured out. I bought a sim unlocked phone and still the bootloader is locked. Thanks!

N00b questions
Few more n00b questions Please ignore my questions above. I've consolidated all of them below so that multiple replies can be avoided.
I've rooted and installed custom ROMs on my LG P500 for more than a year now and I'm quite familiar with the process. But this locked boot loader thing is really confusing me and there are so many threads with different methods. Really confused I've listed down all my questions below, pls help me:
1. Can I root my Atrix without unlocking the bootlaoder? I want to get rid of the so many AT&T apps as my phone is sim-unlocked and I don't need them here in India. This page from rootzwiki has a method to root a phone with locked bootloader. Can I follow this?
2. The same page has a method to unlock the bootloader. In that, it is mentioned that the SBF flashing need not be done if the phone runs gingerbread. The steps direct us to run the unlock command if we're on GB. But on all the methods here in XDA, the SBF flash method is mentioned even for GB 2.3.4 phones. This thread for example. which one to follow?
3. I'm planning to follow the above thread, but in that thread, there is no step to root the phone, after unlocking the bootloader. The next step given there is to install custom recovery. So what do I do to root it?
Please clarify these questions. Thanks in advance.
Karthik

sorry for a bit of a thread hijack,
I'm going to be in India for a conference, can anyone recommend a prepay provider that works with AT&T Atrix and has reasonable data packs? Don't care about text/minutes, just need mobile data with decent speed & price. Bonus if it comes with a pony?
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk

consolation said:
sorry for a bit of a thread hijack,
I'm going to be in India for a conference, can anyone recommend a prepay provider that works with AT&T Atrix and has reasonable data packs? Don't care about text/minutes, just need mobile data with decent speed & price. Bonus if it comes with a pony?
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
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I've PM'ed you

gkarthik16 said:
Few more n00b questions Please ignore my questions above. I've consolidated all of them below so that multiple replies can be avoided.
I've rooted and installed custom ROMs on my LG P500 for more than a year now and I'm quite familiar with the process. But this locked boot loader thing is really confusing me and there are so many threads with different methods. Really confused I've listed down all my questions below, pls help me:
1. Can I root my Atrix without unlocking the bootlaoder? I want to get rid of the so many AT&T apps as my phone is sim-unlocked and I don't need them here in India. This page from rootzwiki has a method to root a phone with locked bootloader. Can I follow this?
2. The same page has a method to unlock the bootloader. In that, it is mentioned that the SBF flashing need not be done if the phone runs gingerbread. The steps direct us to run the unlock command if we're on GB. But on all the methods here in XDA, the SBF flash method is mentioned even for GB 2.3.4 phones. This thread for example. which one to follow?
3. I'm planning to follow the above thread, but in that thread, there is no step to root the phone, after unlocking the bootloader. The next step given there is to install custom recovery. So what do I do to root it?
Please clarify these questions. Thanks in advance.
Karthik
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1.Rooting a phone is different to unlocking the bootloader. So yes when you root the boot loader will remain locked. Unless you use a script which automatically roots and also unlocks the boot loader.
2.I would follow the example thread
3. You can use this thread to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255548
I would recommend you read this thread…its for beginners but has all the information you'll need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600

giqbal said:
1.Rooting a phone is different to unlocking the bootloader. So yes when you root the boot loader will remain locked. Unless you use a script which automatically roots and also unlocks the boot loader.
2.I would follow the example thread
3. You can use this thread to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255548
I would recommend you read this thread…its for beginners but has all the information you'll need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
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Thanks a lot buddy!

Atrix 4g Unlocking and Upgrading.
Hi there guys!
I am planning to buy Atrix 4g through Ebay.
The listing on ebay says that the phone is unlocked?
I am pretty much new to all this and all that I wanna know how do I get rid of Motoblur without putting any custom roms.
PS I heard that Moto has released gingerbread but I am afraid if I update with Motorola Software Update, it will re lock the phone?

Hi
I use atrix in mumbai..
The phone which you will get from ebay will be sim unlocked...that means you can use indian sim cards on the phone
To get rid of all blur software i would suggest you to install a custom rom from the forums..for which you will need to unlock bootloader root your phone and install custom recovery
Youll find tutorials for these in the forums
Cheers!
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[Q] How to unlock a bootloader if possible? (N900A)

Heya, I'm very new in the vast world of Android rooting and flashing and I've run into yet another problem trying to flash my N900A Note 3 variant. I finally got it SIM unlocked and rooted and just when I'm getting ready to flash I see something about bootloaders. I don't know how to check to see if it's locked but I'm more than certain it is. So, is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? I see people saying it can't be unlocked yet I see guides for unlocking them so really all I'm looking for is a straight answer.
And if I understand it right, Safestrap isn't something I want to do if it's not the 'real' thing, so if it can't be unlocked then I'll be looking into another phone. If I do, would it be better to get another Note 3 variant or the Sony Xperia z1s?
Thanks in advance.

mr_solo1337 said:
Heya, I'm very new in the vast world of Android rooting and flashing and I've run into yet another problem trying to flash my N900A Note 3 variant. I finally got it SIM unlocked and rooted and just when I'm getting ready to flash I see something about bootloaders. I don't know how to check to see if it's locked but I'm more than certain it is. So, is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? I see people saying it can't be unlocked yet I see guides for unlocking them so really all I'm looking for is a straight answer.
And if I understand it right, Safestrap isn't something I want to do if it's not the 'real' thing, so if it can't be unlocked then I'll be looking into another phone. If I do, would it be better to get another Note 3 variant or the Sony Xperia z1s?
Thanks in advance.
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AT&T models are locked at the bootloader, and there's no way to unlock them.

I have similar question....I have 9005 version and want to put new bootloader.....I put new NF2 modem and now i want to put NF4 bootloader....
Is it enough just to instal it through odin?
(Searched for instructions but couldn't find it.....)
Thanks....

jisoo said:
AT&T models are locked at the bootloader, and there's no way to unlock them.
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Okay, I have a few questions on this subject.
Safestrap is a work-around a locked bootloader right? If I use it to flash a rom would there be that much of a difference?
If using safestrap pretty much the same thing then why do people still prefer to have unlocked bootloader?
Because I see guides to unlocking bootloaders, does this mean that it's just AT&T that won't let us unlock this phone version?
Sorry for the questions, I just want this stuff cleared up.

mr_solo1337 said:
Okay, I have a few questions on this subject.
Safestrap is a work-around a locked bootloader right? If I use it to flash a rom would there be that much of a difference?
If using safestrap pretty much the same thing then why do people still prefer to have unlocked bootloader?
Because I see guides to unlocking bootloaders, does this mean that it's just AT&T that won't let us unlock this phone version?
Sorry for the questions, I just want this stuff cleared up.
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You can't change the kernel if your bootloader is locked, so safestrap only works with TW-based ROMs -- no cyanogenmod our other AOSP variants.
AT&T is one of the carriers that forces the OEMs to lock the bootloader. I believe Verizon is another one. No other carrier seems to care, or have enough power over the OEMs to force this.

Samsung S5 Active Root? *6.0.1

I'm sure there's been many posts on how to root this device before. But my S5 is AT&T, and just received the Marshmallow update last week. Not to mention the last samsung I had attempted to root (S4, 4.4.1 kitkat) didn't end too well.
Can anyone give me links to forums OR if you know how to root my device, care to help me?
-Jos3ph Tayl0r
(jack_null)

You'll not get root access on that s5 active if it's on marshmallow due to the bootloader being locked. I have one and the only reason I have root on it is because I still have the OC5 bootloader on it so it will forever be on TMS5. Sorry buddy.

LuNySLiM said:
You'll not get root access on that s5 active if it's on marshmallow due to the bootloader being locked. I have one and the only reason I have root on it is because I still have the OC5 bootloader on it so it will forever be on TMS5. Sorry buddy.
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So we're fresh out of luck?
No other options?
Can't unlock the locked bootloader?
Can't downgrade?
Just got to take it. Well f.....
Thanks

I hear I had root options. I'm getting this phone in 2 days from Amazon. I'm searching through forums now. Anyone have anything to add here? Any info would n appreciated.

Skebodan said:
So we're fresh out of luck?
No other options?
Can't unlock the locked bootloader?
Can't downgrade?
Just got to take it. Well f.....
Thanks
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I do believe they have a way to downgrade back to lollipop now and get root access on lollipop but you will need to check your build version/number and see if it matches the one in their instructions. Here's one for s5active which is what I have but I don't see the one for s5. On another note my g870 build has been g900 for as long as I've had it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/guide-merry-christmas-heres-t3516196

Root without Unlock Bootloader

I just bought the phone and I am now on nougat. I tried looking for a simple root process without unlocking the bootloader on nougat but its simply overwhelming what works and what does not work. If anybody has a simple process on just rooting the device without unlocking I would appreciate it. Thank You

z45123qqq said:
I just bought the phone and I am now on nougat. I tried looking for a simple root process without unlocking the bootloader on nougat but its simply overwhelming what works and what does not work. If anybody has a simple process on just rooting the device without unlocking I would appreciate it. Thank You
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Did you read the root without unlock thread?
No, it can't be done on N or any worthwhile version of 6.0.1.

I did read through that thread and there were so many different versions it looks like it was hit and miss for most people. So there is a root possiblity for nougat right now is that correct. Thanks

You can root after unlocking.

Ok last question
Ok last question can you give me the link so I can root without unlocking the bootloader. I appreciate your help. Thanks