Hi Guys,
I'm about to buy a Motorola Atrix 4G sim-unlocked phone here in India, through eBay. I got confirmation from the seller that it is an imported phone from US which has been unlocked for international carriers. I've a few questions now:
1. Does GB 2.3.4 come with an unlocked bootloader, so that I need not do anything to unlock it myself?
2. If no, then will I be able to unlock the bootloader using the method given in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
I can see that there is a lot of community support for this phone and I would love to root it and install custom ROMs on it. Please clarify me on the above points.
Thanks in advance.
gkarthik16 said:
Hi Guys,
I'm about to buy a Motorola Atrix 4G sim-unlocked phone here in India, through eBay. I got confirmation from the seller that it is an imported phone from US which has been unlocked for international carriers. I've a few questions now:
1. Does GB 2.3.4 come with an unlocked bootloader, so that I need not do anything to unlock it myself?
2. If no, then will I be able to unlock the bootloader using the method given in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
I can see that there is a lot of community support for this phone and I would love to root it and install custom ROMs on it. Please clarify me on the above points.
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Karthik,
I have also bought through Ebay.
1. Does GB 2.3.4 come with an unlocked bootloader, so that I need not do anything to unlock it myself?
A) If the phone is sim unlocked than most probably it has unlocked bootloaded. You can check this by restarting the phone, if UNLOCKED is displayed at the top during booting, then its bootloaded has been unlocked.
2. If no, then will I be able to unlock the bootloader using the method given in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
A)I have used the same method for unlocking my phone.
rockydev said:
Hi Karthik,
I have also bought through Ebay.
1. Does GB 2.3.4 come with an unlocked bootloader, so that I need not do anything to unlock it myself?
A) If the phone is sim unlocked than most probably it has unlocked bootloaded. You can check this by restarting the phone, if UNLOCKED is displayed at the top during booting, then its bootloaded has been unlocked.
2. If no, then will I be able to unlock the bootloader using the method given in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
A)I have used the same method for unlocking my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply. I do not see the UNLOCKED text while booting up. so probably the boot loader is still locked.
In the thread which you used to unlock, there is no step to root the phone after unlocking the boot loader. After unlocking, the next step is installing a custom recovery. So how do we root it? I don't want to explore multiple threads as the instructions are confusing. Please help!
Thanks in advance.
rockydev said:
A) If the phone is sim unlocked than most probably it has unlocked bootloaded. You can check this by restarting the phone, if UNLOCKED is displayed at the top during booting, then its bootloaded has been unlocked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is NOT TRUE..
Sim Unlock and Bootloader Unlock are different.
Bootloader Unlock will allow you to install any other firmwares. This will display Unlocked message on bootup.
SIM unlock will allow to use other carriers SIM card other than Orginal carrier.
For Ex. if you have ATT US Atrix, you wont be able to use it for other networks until you perform SIM unlock. This will not display Unlock message on bootup.
sakdroid said:
This is NOT TRUE..
Sim Unlock and Bootloader Unlock are different.
Bootloader Unlock will allow you to install any other firmwares. This will display Unlocked message on bootup.
SIM unlock will allow to use other carriers SIM card other than Orginal carrier.
For Ex. if you have ATT US Atrix, you wont be able to use it for other networks until you perform SIM unlock. This will not display Unlock message on bootup.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah that I figured out. I bought a sim unlocked phone and still the bootloader is locked. Thanks!
N00b questions
Few more n00b questions Please ignore my questions above. I've consolidated all of them below so that multiple replies can be avoided.
I've rooted and installed custom ROMs on my LG P500 for more than a year now and I'm quite familiar with the process. But this locked boot loader thing is really confusing me and there are so many threads with different methods. Really confused I've listed down all my questions below, pls help me:
1. Can I root my Atrix without unlocking the bootlaoder? I want to get rid of the so many AT&T apps as my phone is sim-unlocked and I don't need them here in India. This page from rootzwiki has a method to root a phone with locked bootloader. Can I follow this?
2. The same page has a method to unlock the bootloader. In that, it is mentioned that the SBF flashing need not be done if the phone runs gingerbread. The steps direct us to run the unlock command if we're on GB. But on all the methods here in XDA, the SBF flash method is mentioned even for GB 2.3.4 phones. This thread for example. which one to follow?
3. I'm planning to follow the above thread, but in that thread, there is no step to root the phone, after unlocking the bootloader. The next step given there is to install custom recovery. So what do I do to root it?
Please clarify these questions. Thanks in advance.
Karthik
sorry for a bit of a thread hijack,
I'm going to be in India for a conference, can anyone recommend a prepay provider that works with AT&T Atrix and has reasonable data packs? Don't care about text/minutes, just need mobile data with decent speed & price. Bonus if it comes with a pony?
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
consolation said:
sorry for a bit of a thread hijack,
I'm going to be in India for a conference, can anyone recommend a prepay provider that works with AT&T Atrix and has reasonable data packs? Don't care about text/minutes, just need mobile data with decent speed & price. Bonus if it comes with a pony?
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've PM'ed you
gkarthik16 said:
Few more n00b questions Please ignore my questions above. I've consolidated all of them below so that multiple replies can be avoided.
I've rooted and installed custom ROMs on my LG P500 for more than a year now and I'm quite familiar with the process. But this locked boot loader thing is really confusing me and there are so many threads with different methods. Really confused I've listed down all my questions below, pls help me:
1. Can I root my Atrix without unlocking the bootlaoder? I want to get rid of the so many AT&T apps as my phone is sim-unlocked and I don't need them here in India. This page from rootzwiki has a method to root a phone with locked bootloader. Can I follow this?
2. The same page has a method to unlock the bootloader. In that, it is mentioned that the SBF flashing need not be done if the phone runs gingerbread. The steps direct us to run the unlock command if we're on GB. But on all the methods here in XDA, the SBF flash method is mentioned even for GB 2.3.4 phones. This thread for example. which one to follow?
3. I'm planning to follow the above thread, but in that thread, there is no step to root the phone, after unlocking the bootloader. The next step given there is to install custom recovery. So what do I do to root it?
Please clarify these questions. Thanks in advance.
Karthik
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1.Rooting a phone is different to unlocking the bootloader. So yes when you root the boot loader will remain locked. Unless you use a script which automatically roots and also unlocks the boot loader.
2.I would follow the example thread
3. You can use this thread to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255548
I would recommend you read this thread…its for beginners but has all the information you'll need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
giqbal said:
1.Rooting a phone is different to unlocking the bootloader. So yes when you root the boot loader will remain locked. Unless you use a script which automatically roots and also unlocks the boot loader.
2.I would follow the example thread
3. You can use this thread to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255548
I would recommend you read this thread…its for beginners but has all the information you'll need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot buddy!
Atrix 4g Unlocking and Upgrading.
Hi there guys!
I am planning to buy Atrix 4g through Ebay.
The listing on ebay says that the phone is unlocked?
I am pretty much new to all this and all that I wanna know how do I get rid of Motoblur without putting any custom roms.
PS I heard that Moto has released gingerbread but I am afraid if I update with Motorola Software Update, it will re lock the phone?
Hi
I use atrix in mumbai..
The phone which you will get from ebay will be sim unlocked...that means you can use indian sim cards on the phone
To get rid of all blur software i would suggest you to install a custom rom from the forums..for which you will need to unlock bootloader root your phone and install custom recovery
Youll find tutorials for these in the forums
Cheers!
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Related
Hello Guys and Girls,
I am offering help to people who are unsure how to go about rooting there Sony Ericsson Play Phone.. please get in contact if you would like help.
Teamviewer is a great problem that allows remove assistence over the internet.
Teku
Hello there my friend just purchased a Rogers branded xperia play how would i go about rooting it and unlocking the bootloader? i highly doubt its as simple as fastboot oem unlock but am confused at the current state of affairs.
Hello there friend, do you know if the phone is carrier unlocked or is it locked? if the phone is unlocked it will be so much easier to root. if your phone is locked you will need to ask Alejandrissimo or Blagus to unlock it (this will cost 17 euros there abouts, the software they use to unlock your phone requires SERVER CREDITS which they have to pay for... by doing this your phone will become fully unlocked which means you can then go onto the netstage of rooting the device), there is no way i can help unlock the phone but soon as that is done the rooting is very simple and straight forward. if you are unsure if the phone is unlocked/locked try putting another sim card into the phone (has to be different network)
please check out this link if you would like to seek more infomation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043630
Teku
Hey dude, thanks for the offer ive been googling for the past few days and am still unsure about where to start. Do you mind if I ask a few q's?
1. I have a carrier unlocked r800i, but not bootloader unlocked. Its on 2.3.3 and I want to root but prefer to keep BL locked, is it possible?
2. If root will I still be able to get OTA updates?
3. Apart from titanium backup what is some fun stuff to do after rooting?
Thanks in advance man ;-)
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Pandasouljah said:
Hey dude, thanks for the offer ive been googling for the past few days and am still unsure about where to start. Do you mind if I ask a few q's?
1. I have a carrier unlocked r800i, but not bootloader unlocked. Its on 2.3.3 and I want to root but prefer to keep BL locked, is it possible?
2. If root will I still be able to get OTA updates?
3. Apart from titanium backup what is some fun stuff to do after rooting?
Thanks in advance man ;-)
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
with root and doomlords kernel you can now overclock the xperia play. Making HD games soo much more enjoyable!
Pandasouljah said:
Hey dude, thanks for the offer ive been googling for the past few days and am still unsure about where to start. Do you mind if I ask a few q's?
1. I have a carrier unlocked r800i, but not bootloader unlocked. Its on 2.3.3 and I want to root but prefer to keep BL locked, is it possible?
2. If root will I still be able to get OTA updates?
3. Apart from titanium backup what is some fun stuff to do after rooting?
Thanks in advance man ;-)
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can always reLock the Bootloader after you rooted there is also a method that works on all cept R8OOX to get R00T without Unlocking the BOOTloader
If Bootloader is Relocked,you will be able to get OTA updates,dont do it by PCCompanion.if bootloader is UNblocked then you will get a BRICKed phone,but can be recovered i think.
Alot of great AppS for RooT,DroidSheep is mean but total fun (See what people are doing connected to the same network ) app2SD PLUS , setcpu for OverClocking on DooMkernel,LCDensity and Adfree are ontop of my head.Wireless TEHTER and RooTExplorer are great,with RC being a MUST!
I personally feel the Xperia Play threads here at XDA is very fragmented.
This place would be a whole lot better if there was a global thread posted, that was specifically dedicated to all things rooting.
This would ideally include -
1) A conclusive guide how to root every type of model
2) Bloatware that is safe to remove
3) Completed ROMS / partially completed ROMS safe to install
4) How to overclock
5) Xperia Play specfic rooted mods that are best to install
6) How to update firmware / software once rooted, and how not to brick your phone
I am perfectly capabel of rooting myself, i did it at 2.3.2, but now i refrain from rooting because there is no global guide how to do it and keep 2.3.3.
Yes there are guides, but like i say, they are fragmented and are not noob friendly.
Make a noob friendly guide and there will be a lot more interest in these forums.
Remember........the more people who are rooted.........the more people who will potentially purchase rooted software written by developers.
It's in everybodys interest to stop all this fragmentation of information, and for some expert to write up a conclusive guide to the Xperia Play.
@Pandasouljah if you only want root check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
Regards Dousan...
E: this will update you to the newest firmware 4.0.A.2.368 - 2.3.3.
i have a newbie question..
I managed to root my xPlay but most of the people say to not update from 2.3.2 to 2.3.3 from WIFI if you are unlocked.
What is the meaning of unlocked? It means bootloader?
Yes unlock most likely refers to bootloader. If it's referring to sim, people normally put the word sim in front
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.
If you want to do the update on your phone, lock the bootloader
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?
Thanks for the advice guys! Im thinking its probably less hassle just to unlock the bootloader, seems that people have probs doing OTA updates with frozen and deleted stock apps, but i'll let u guys know how it goes anyway
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Hi
I am a first time Android user, Picked up an Xperia Play on Monday gingerbread 2.3.3 , Build version 4.0.A.2.368 . Ive read through numerous threads here regarding Rooting and unlocking the boot loader, I'm falling at the first hurdle. For some reason when I try to put the handset into fastboot mode (holding search key while I plug in the usb cable) it just refuses to work. it just charges the handset and I get the green light on the power button rather than the blue one
Is this a know issue ?(haven't come across a solid explanation yet) and if it is , is there a fix?
I have tried another method of flashing the firmware using Windows 7 64bit and 32bit with the same results, system does not recognise the drivers.
So any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
If your bootloader isn't unlocked then ya you won't get a blue led it needs to be unlocked first
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Groovy, Okay. Ill give that a go and see how it goes. Cheers.
---------- Post added at 12:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:15 PM ----------
thatsupnow said:
If your bootloader isn't unlocked then ya you won't get a blue led it needs to be unlocked first
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually Ive just gone back to look at the unlocking bootloader guide, and this is where Im having the issue.
5. Extract fastboot.rar and open fastboot folder
6. Hold SHIFT and right click on the background of the folder
7. Select 'Open command window here'
8. Connect your phone in fastboot mode (turn phone off, hold search button and plug in USB Cable)
Part 8 there...This is has to be done If I want to be able to unlock the bootloader....Am i missing something ?
dsswoosh said:
I personally feel the Xperia Play threads here at XDA is very fragmented.
This place would be a whole lot better if there was a global thread posted, that was specifically dedicated to all things rooting.
This would ideally include -
1) A conclusive guide how to root every type of model
2) Bloatware that is safe to remove
3) Completed ROMS / partially completed ROMS safe to install
4) How to overclock
5) Xperia Play specfic rooted mods that are best to install
6) How to update firmware / software once rooted, and how not to brick your phone
I am perfectly capabel of rooting myself, i did it at 2.3.2, but now i refrain from rooting because there is no global guide how to do it and keep 2.3.3.
Yes there are guides, but like i say, they are fragmented and are not noob friendly.
Make a noob friendly guide and there will be a lot more interest in these forums.
Remember........the more people who are rooted.........the more people who will potentially purchase rooted software written by developers.
It's in everybodys interest to stop all this fragmentation of information, and for some expert to write up a conclusive guide to the Xperia Play.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This post is pretty much hitting the nail on the head.
Since there are so many different models of this phone and differences with regard to carriers it quickly gets confusing to find the right tutorial
Looks like my handset is network locked, I have requested the unlock code from my service provider, so Ill give it another go when I get it unlocked.
does anyone know if the US At&t version comes unlocked?
I am picking one up tomorrow and wouldn't mind getting a heads up on this
My unlocking the bootloader saga continues, I received the network unlocking code from my service provider this morning, now when I try to enter fastboot more I get an orange light instead of the green light I was getting before.
Any suggestions would be faboo
Keep trying pressing search button
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Hi people I didn't know whether to post this in the android development forum so I posted it her.
Soooooooo.......... For people that are confused when they dial in *#*#7378423#*#* and they find out that it says boot loader unlock allowed:no.
I am just going to clarify a few things. Don't worry its not the end of the world you can still unlock your bootloader. thats the good news. The bad news is that it will require you to pay some money. You are probably having this problem because:
a) Your phone is sim locked
b) You are using the R800at or R800X if so then get out of this forum!!!!!!!!
So to solve this problem you will have to sim unlock your xperia play although, you MUST use a software that uses the phone's testpoint to sim unlock the phone e.g. Omnius any other unlocking method used that does not use the phone's testpoint will NOT work.
Once you have done that taaa daaaa!!!! now when you go into the service menu it should say bootloader unlock allowed.
Although your not done yet, now you will have to unlock your bootloader this is FREE to do in fact sony ericcson offers the instructions how to do it themselves. Here is the link to the instructions:
unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/instructions
Since i'm a new member xda not letting me put in any hyperlinked links.
Make sure you know the risks of unlocking it!!!!! Enjoy!!!!!!!!!
Last time i looked sim unlock does not unlock fastboot
No fastboot, no unlocked bootloader
swebosdev said:
Last time i looked sim unlock does not unlock fastboot
No fastboot, no unlocked bootloader
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No i'm just saying this because the requirements to unlock the bootloader on the se website says make sure it says boot loader unlock allowed: yes
I haven't tried using fastboot or anything this was just for people that were stuck here in unlocking their boot loader i was just sharing that it changes to yes when you take off the sim lock and i know it is possible to unlcok the bootloader of it even though it says its not the steps i have given does unlock the bootloader as i myself have tested it on my friend's o2 locked phone.
On my phone it says
Rooting Status:
Bootloader unlocked allowed: Yes
so do i have to pay money to unlock it or what?
I'd like to try and root it.
My phone was originally locked to O2, I got it sim unlocked from them and i still have bootloader unlock allowed:no ...
You have to do TEST POINT METHOD!
This Unlockes your Sim lock i think as well as fastboot which you need to unlock,
sim locked phones are branded and have Blocked Fastboot with a Unknown Patch the Bypass is test point method however you Must Not ever Update VIA PC companion or OTA Doing so = a brick.
If you want to pay up the money go to Aljendrissimo he has proven 12,000+ people with SE phones Bootloader Unlocked with OTA fix ans Pc companion which means you can have the ICS update but its got the sony suite
micahbzrk said:
On my phone it says
Rooting Status:
Bootloader unlocked allowed: Yes
so do i have to pay money to unlock it or what?
I'd like to try and root it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it says bootloader unlock allowed:yes then you don't need to pay to unlock your bootloader just go to the link I put up and follow the instructions.
Also,on the other comments yes this does indeed has to be done through test point method which is very easy many sites do this, I used cellunlocker.net's se unlocking software to unlock mine. I also checked yes by doing the testpoint method it also,gives you the option to unlock the bootloader I do recommend omnius because you can by a android unlock liscense for just 10 pounds but to clarify you DO need your sim unlock to be done through test point so you can be able to unlock the bootloader
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
arsalansiddique said:
So to solve this problem you will have to sim unlock your xperia play I don't mind you can do it in any way as long as it gets sim unlocked(I used a test point software since they didn't have a unlock code for my network provider)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please amend this in your first post as it is incorrect and very misleading to others.
Sure will change it now
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
What would be nice to know is how to unlock fastboot if your already sim unlocked.
I can understand paying for simunlock but paying for a fastboot unlock while i am already sim unlock would be double dipping.
swebosdev said:
What would be nice to know is how to unlock fastboot if your already sim unlocked.
I can understand paying for simunlock but paying for a fastboot unlock while i am already sim unlock would be double dipping.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I agree I think it possible and is something what the testpoint method does for us if someone could break down exacty what it does I think the developers might be able to find something
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
My Xperia Play is sim unlocked but i still got that bootloader unlock allowed: no
So do i need to pay? ><
arsalansiddique said:
Yeah I agree I think it possible and is something what the testpoint method does for us if someone could break down exacty what it does I think the developers might be able to find something
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has been broken down for you on the first page, if you do use the test point method then you can't do OTA updates which means, you can't officially update your play when offical updates come out but it's not all bad as you will be able to flash the offical update with a FTF with the flash tool. It is recommended to use the test point method.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
danlivesey said:
It has been broken down for you on the first page, if you do use the test point method then you can't do OTA updates which means, you can't officially update your play when offical updates come out but it's not all bad as you will be able to flash the offical update with a FTF with the flash tool. It is recommended to use the test point method.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No I don't think that is true because you cannot do OTA updates only if you have a locked boot loader i'm not sure where you got your info from mate but i'm pretty sure all the test point method does is sim unlock your phone and does something to make the bootloader unlock possible and that is what I m trying to find out- what it does to make the bootloader show yes .
I have confirmed with various trusted sources if you are still able to update even if you are sim unlocked with test point and they are saying yeah only if you haven't unlocked the bootloader.
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
arsalansiddique said:
No I don't think that is true because you cannot do OTA updates only if you have a locked boot loader i'm not sure where you got your info from mate but i'm pretty sure all the test point method does is sim unlock your phone and does something to make the bootloader unlock possible and that is what I m trying to find out- what it does to make the bootloader show yes .
I have confirmed with various trusted sources if you are still able to update even if you are sim unlocked with test point and they are saying yeah only if you haven't unlocked the bootloader.
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So ... there is any results?
So, no chance to unlock bootloader without testpoint, right?
My R800a is not sim lock, I can use it with any GSM sim but the status still says bootloader unlock allowed:no. How can I unlock bootloader ?
I have an Arc s using the 3 branded 4.0.4 (4.1.L.0.8) firmware and have wanted to root and unlock the boot loader for ages. The problem is that I don't know the best method of unlocking the boot loader and root the phone. Was wondering if someone could send me in the right direction or give me a good tutorial on how to go from the very basic no root stock firmware to having the phone rooted with the boot loader unlocked would be great if someone if able to help me.
totalfailz said:
I have an Arc s using the 3 branded 4.0.4 (4.1.L.0.8) firmware and have wanted to root and unlock the boot loader for ages. The problem is that I don't know the best method of unlocking the boot loader and root the phone. Was wondering if someone could send me in the right direction or give me a good tutorial on how to go from the very basic no root stock firmware to having the phone rooted with the boot loader unlocked would be great if someone if able to help me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See the first link in my signature.
XperienceD said:
See the first link in my signature.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haha love it xD
totalfailz said:
haha love it xD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now that's out of the way, read the stickys, although you seem to have new F.W so it might be rootable using the existing methods or you may need to wait until someone figures out how to root it. Bootloader unlocking is the same regardless of firmware.
totalfailz said:
I have an Arc s using the 3 branded 4.0.4 (4.1.L.0.8) firmware and have wanted to root and unlock the boot loader for ages. The problem is that I don't know the best method of unlocking the boot loader and root the phone. Was wondering if someone could send me in the right direction or give me a good tutorial on how to go from the very basic no root stock firmware to having the phone rooted with the boot loader unlocked would be great if someone if able to help me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have (nearly) the same phone, also on 3 (rant to follow!). In short, your bootloader cannot be unlocked without paying someone to do it for you (around £15). You can still use custom roms (via CWM recovery) without an unlocked bootloader, so IMHO not really worth it. I was waiting for a former member of XDA to unlock my phone for around a week (we weren't free at the same times, etc) and in the end didn't bother.
There may be other ways, but personally I used this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683189, but for ease of use, the toolkit from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601038. Bascially, you need to flash the 4.0.3 kernel using flashtool, use DooMLoRD's kit to root the device, then flash the 4.0.4 kernel back again. After that, you can get CWM recovery from the market, and use that with any rom suitable for locked bootloaders.
BTW, 3 are absolutely the WORST network in the UK, just got off the phone arguing with them about them cutting all 2G services (i now realise why my reception has been so bad for the past 6 months!) while also raising the price of my packages, all without warning.
XTCrefugee said:
I have (nearly) the same phone, also on 3 (rant to follow!). In short, your bootloader cannot be unlocked without paying someone to do it for you (around £15). You can still use custom roms (via CWM recovery) without an unlocked bootloader, so IMHO not really worth it. I was waiting for a former member of XDA to unlock my phone for around a week (we weren't free at the same times, etc) and in the end didn't bother.
There may be other ways, but personally I used this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683189, but for ease of use, the toolkit from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601038. Bascially, you need to flash the 4.0.3 kernel using flashtool, use DooMLoRD's kit to root the device, then flash the 4.0.4 kernel back again. After that, you can get CWM recovery from the market, and use that with any rom suitable for locked bootloaders.
BTW, 3 are absolutely the WORST network in the UK, just got off the phone arguing with them about them cutting all 2G services (i now realise why my reception has been so bad for the past 6 months!) while also raising the price of my packages, all without warning.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks! just the reply I was looking for . I have had no problems on 3, the service and the network has been great for me. I just hate that I am not able to use Sony's method of unlocking the boot loader due to being on 3's branded firmware >.<
totalfailz said:
thanks! just the reply I was looking for . I have had no problems on 3, the service and the network has been great for me. I just hate that I am not able to use Sony's method of unlocking the boot loader due to being on 3's branded firmware >.<
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't flashing generic firmware solve the bootloader-issue?
Curst said:
Doesn't flashing generic firmware solve the bootloader-issue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No.
totalfailz said:
I have an Arc s using the 3 branded 4.0.4 (4.1.L.0.8) firmware and have wanted to root and unlock the boot loader for ages. The problem is that I don't know the best method of unlocking the boot loader and root the phone. Was wondering if someone could send me in the right direction or give me a good tutorial on how to go from the very basic no root stock firmware to having the phone rooted with the boot loader unlocked would be great if someone if able to help me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have 3 also in Sweden, but Alejanrissimo (a guy in the forum) unlocked the bootloader for me remotely and now it is very good. I can flash ROM, kernel, get easy root etc.
I payed 19 US dollars over PayPal and after 10 minutes (with some paper clip operation stuff) my phone was unlocked, even the SIM was unlocked too. :good:
I can still use PCC and SEUS and the TrackID is also still there.
I wanna share my experience with my locked bootloader.
I tried once to unlock and install a "just 4 unlocked" rom (2 roms actually) but the radio system didn't work (no phone, no wifi, no gps).
I got back by flashtools, i installed a rom 4 locked rom and i tried once more to unlock the BL. I installed CM10.1 and now everything is working perfect!!!
I got just a question 4 you: why does some xperia z has the BL locked while others unlocked?
e753 said:
I wanna share my experience with my locked bootloader.
I tried once to unlock and install a "just 4 unlocked" rom (2 roms actually) but the radio system didn't work (no phone, no wifi, no gps).
I got back by flashtools, i installed a rom 4 locked rom and i tried once more to unlock the BL. I installed CM10.1 and now everything is working perfect!!!
I got just a question 4 you: why does some xperia z has the BL locked while others unlocked?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All Xperia Zs come locked from the factory. Most can be unlocked to flash custom roms. Some are permanently locked because their carriers are iffy (to put it nicely), but those are the minority.
Keep Questions in the Q/A section, not in General.
And No SONY device comes with locked Bootloader always. All are locked by default from the factory. Among which some can be unlocked and some can not because the Carrier.
auni said:
Keep Questions in the Q/A section, not in General.
And No SONY device comes with unlocked Bootloader. All are locked by default from the factory. Among which some can be unlocked and some can not because the Carrier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, but my gadget showed "no in Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status > Bootloader unlock allowed (and in the post about unlock BL they says that if it's "no" the device cannot be unlocked).
Thank you
PS: How can i move the 3d to Q/A ?
That is what I said.
All the Devices are locked bootloader by default.
Bootloader unlock allowed= Yes -- This means you can unlock the bootloader by following regular method.
Bootloader unlock allowed= NO -- This means you can not unlock the bootloader. Because of the Carrier issue i believe.
auni said:
That is what I said.
All the Devices are locked bootloader by default.
Bootloader unlock allowed= Yes -- This means you can unlock the bootloader by following regular method.
Bootloader unlock allowed= NO -- This means you can not unlock the bootloader. Because of the Carrier issue i believe.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thx i got it.
But mine showed Bootloader unlock allowed= NO but i was able to unlock it after 2 try. I think every one following my procedure might do it.
e753 said:
thx i got it.
But mine showed Bootloader unlock allowed= NO but i was able to unlock it after 2 try. I think every one following my procedure might do it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you will always have been able to unlock yours, you just didn't do it right the first time.
So are you saying you have a locked boatloader and can install. CM10????
Sent from my C6603 using xda premium
e753 said:
thx i got it.
But mine showed Bootloader unlock allowed= NO but i was able to unlock it after 2 try. I think every one following my procedure might do it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
did you root it and put a different ROM on there? the status might change say no but you can still unlock it. Simply put if first time you boot up your phone and it say Unlock bootloader = NO, then dont try to unlock it. When you root and flash a different rom that status might change to yes but in reality it still a NO
G1_enthusiast said:
did you root it and put a different ROM on there? the status might change say no but you can still unlock it. Simply put if first time you boot up your phone and it say Unlock bootloader = NO, then dont try to unlock it. When you root and flash a different rom that status might change to yes but in reality it still a NO
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Eventually a right answer.
I was told the same. But i love to risk "playing" with my gadgets. So when i bought the xperia z through a carrier I saw the first time i boot up that the phone Unlock bootloader = NO (about 5 minutes after i bought it from the shop, so it was "original as the carrier made it).
I didn't care it and i tried to unlock. I installed a unlocked bootloader and rom and i had all that problems with the radio stuff . But the second time, after i recovered it by flashtool and a sw from sony (i don't remember the name) I was allowed to unlock it and install unlocked stuff. Now I am with Paranoid and I am so happy
e753 said:
Eventually a right answer.
I was told the same. But i love to risk "playing" with my gadgets. So when i bought the xperia z through a carrier I saw the first time i boot up that the phone Unlock bootloader = NO (about 5 minutes after i bought it from the shop, so it was "original as the carrier made it).
I didn't care it and i tried to unlock. I installed a unlocked bootloader and rom and i had all that problems with the radio stuff . But the second time, after i recovered it by flashtool and a sw from sony (i don't remember the name) I was allowed to unlock it and install unlocked stuff. Now I am with Paranoid and I am so happy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so you were able to unlock it even though it says no?
G1_enthusiast said:
so you were able to unlock it even though it says no?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really interested in this cause I am in the same situation, carrier locked with bootloader locked for good.
CoolZoneAlex said:
Really interested in this cause I am in the same situation, carrier locked with bootloader locked for good.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
same here... unlock it. install all the unlocked stuff. Radio might don't work. . Get ur phone back by flashtool and sony sw (i don't rememmber the name). The sony software will say u after a while u r not able to recover the phone cuz you are using some some software that is not sony. Don't worry and install another time a rom unbranded by flashtool.
now unlock the phone again and install everything u might like
There is only a problem with the twrp recovery, so use only the other one
e753 said:
same here... unlock it. install all the unlocked stuff. Radio might don't work. . Get ur phone back by flashtool and sony sw (i don't rememmber the name). The sony software will say u after a while u r not able to recover the phone cuz you are using some some software that is not sony. Don't worry and install another time a rom unbranded by flashtool.
now unlock the phone again and install everything u might like
There is only a problem with the twrp recovery, so use only the other one
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can anyone else confirm this?
Thanks!
Very interesting... Im waiting the confirmation from sony to pick up my phone without cost to change the fastboot to yes, but if this is true and someone else could confirm this method il do it tonight!!!!
Enviado desde mi C6603 usando Tapatalk 2
I think if you want others to try what you've done, (and it is interesting if we can unlock bootloaders this way)
then you may want to highlight which steps you did in more detail.
Which roms did you try to flash that resorted in no radio functions?
which rom did you try to flash with flashtool? which version of flashtool as well?
Did you do anything else?
I somehow doubt engineers would make an oversight as big as this one.
But fingers crossed nevertheless.
+1 for a detailed description of the steps you took. This could be huge!
Sent from my C6603 using xda premium
robogo1982 said:
I somehow doubt engineers would make an oversight as big as this one.
But fingers crossed nevertheless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed, this move would make the XZ much more attractive for buyers which have the bootloader locked from the carrier.
CoolZoneAlex said:
Indeed, this move would make the XZ much more attractive for buyers which have the bootloader locked from the carrier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this must be the first topic on xperia z´s forum hehehe.
Heya, I'm very new in the vast world of Android rooting and flashing and I've run into yet another problem trying to flash my N900A Note 3 variant. I finally got it SIM unlocked and rooted and just when I'm getting ready to flash I see something about bootloaders. I don't know how to check to see if it's locked but I'm more than certain it is. So, is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? I see people saying it can't be unlocked yet I see guides for unlocking them so really all I'm looking for is a straight answer.
And if I understand it right, Safestrap isn't something I want to do if it's not the 'real' thing, so if it can't be unlocked then I'll be looking into another phone. If I do, would it be better to get another Note 3 variant or the Sony Xperia z1s?
Thanks in advance.
mr_solo1337 said:
Heya, I'm very new in the vast world of Android rooting and flashing and I've run into yet another problem trying to flash my N900A Note 3 variant. I finally got it SIM unlocked and rooted and just when I'm getting ready to flash I see something about bootloaders. I don't know how to check to see if it's locked but I'm more than certain it is. So, is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? I see people saying it can't be unlocked yet I see guides for unlocking them so really all I'm looking for is a straight answer.
And if I understand it right, Safestrap isn't something I want to do if it's not the 'real' thing, so if it can't be unlocked then I'll be looking into another phone. If I do, would it be better to get another Note 3 variant or the Sony Xperia z1s?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AT&T models are locked at the bootloader, and there's no way to unlock them.
I have similar question....I have 9005 version and want to put new bootloader.....I put new NF2 modem and now i want to put NF4 bootloader....
Is it enough just to instal it through odin?
(Searched for instructions but couldn't find it.....)
Thanks....
jisoo said:
AT&T models are locked at the bootloader, and there's no way to unlock them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, I have a few questions on this subject.
Safestrap is a work-around a locked bootloader right? If I use it to flash a rom would there be that much of a difference?
If using safestrap pretty much the same thing then why do people still prefer to have unlocked bootloader?
Because I see guides to unlocking bootloaders, does this mean that it's just AT&T that won't let us unlock this phone version?
Sorry for the questions, I just want this stuff cleared up.
mr_solo1337 said:
Okay, I have a few questions on this subject.
Safestrap is a work-around a locked bootloader right? If I use it to flash a rom would there be that much of a difference?
If using safestrap pretty much the same thing then why do people still prefer to have unlocked bootloader?
Because I see guides to unlocking bootloaders, does this mean that it's just AT&T that won't let us unlock this phone version?
Sorry for the questions, I just want this stuff cleared up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't change the kernel if your bootloader is locked, so safestrap only works with TW-based ROMs -- no cyanogenmod our other AOSP variants.
AT&T is one of the carriers that forces the OEMs to lock the bootloader. I believe Verizon is another one. No other carrier seems to care, or have enough power over the OEMs to force this.