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Hello, I recently found a phone on Kajiji because I am leaving soon and needed it since my old one broke. Usualy I order my phones off Hi-moible. He told me it was unlocked so I assumed it was the international version,. I ended up with a 1337m, I am dissapointed since alot of the roms are only for that model. I was wondering as to why this is the case arent both phones identical in terms of hardware? How do you convert one to the other ?
Nanafy said:
Hello, I recently found a phone on Kajiji because I am leaving soon and needed it since my old one broke. Usualy I order my phones off Hi-moible. He told me it was unlocked so I assumed it was the international version,. I ended up with a 1337m, I am dissapointed since alot of the roms are only for that model. I was wondering as to why this is the case arent both phones identical in terms of hardware? How do you convert one to the other ?
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That would be the Canadian Model. I believe if its unlocked it should still work, and the international Model is the one that actually has the least customization in terms of ROMS i believe mostly because of the Exynos processor. The I337M is the Snapdragon model which is the same Hardware as the US models. I use an I337M and load AT&T and T-Mobile roms all the time. Just make sure you choose T-Mobile Kernels for your device if using custom ROMS that arent T-Mobile based.
Monkz said:
That would be the Canadian Model. I believe if its unlocked it should still work, and the international Model is the one that actually has the least customization in terms of ROMS i believe mostly because of the Exynos processor. The I337M is the Snapdragon model which is the same Hardware as the US models. I use an I337M and load AT&T and T-Mobile roms all the time. Just make sure you choose T-Mobile Kernels for your device if using custom ROMS that arent T-Mobile based.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2166
This phone the I9505 Why can i not use roms from this thread ?
I dont understand its unlocked and its the same phone what is the actual complication ?
Does anyone know if this dual sim version of the phone will be getting an international release?
I know the S4 Mini dual sim is already out, but I'd rather get an S4 with actual S4 advertised functions.
I'm very tempted to buy this from China and root it, but I hear that it's pretty unstable. I'd much rather wait for an international release, but I also dont want to be waiting around for nothing...
If anyone has heard anything or any opinions on whether markets outside of China will ever see this phone, please share your news here.
Thanks!
No one has any info/opinions?
m0928 said:
No one has any info/opinions?
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I doubt it, I own i9502 dual sim, it's stable using SVA ROM, it's just the battery life that worries me (I Think it might be just the ROM).
If you want international release, get the S4 Mini Duos (i9192).
dumb4ever said:
I doubt it, I own i9502 dual sim, it's stable using SVA ROM, it's just the battery life that worries me (I Think it might be just the ROM).
If you want international release, get the S4 Mini Duos (i9192).
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Yeah, I was thinking exactly this, I was about to buy the Mini Duos but realised that I was basically getting the same phone as I have now (S3) with dual sim and paying the price of a new phone for it. As the S4 Mini has almost none of the features that the S4 is advertising.
The retailer told me to wait for the S4 Duos to be released internationally, but when I asked him if it was even planned, he had no idea.
I would be interested to know about the stability of the SVA rom, I read the whole thread (the one starts with "Wonted") and it seems people are having issues with caller ID and battery life. I'm also not very experienced with rooting and all that so I'm really torn about whether or not it's worth buying.
Hello guys
Im thinking to get one of those phones: Samsung Galaxy Note3 or Samsung Galaxy Note 3 duos (SM-N9002).
I like SM-N9002 because it has dual sim.
Please help me to decide which one to get?
Thanks
ThumperTM said:
Hello guys
Im thinking to get one of those phones: Samsung Galaxy Note3 or Samsung Galaxy Note 3 duos (SM-N9002).
I like SM-N9002 because it has dual sim.
Please help me to decide which one to get?
Thanks
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No doubt n9005...its up to you
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
ghalib87 said:
No doubt n9005...its up to you
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Both phones seems to have same hardware? 3gb ram, same processor etc
Thanks for your reply.
my two cents...
ThumperTM said:
Hello guys
Im thinking to get one of those phones: Samsung Galaxy Note3 or Samsung Galaxy Note 3 duos (SM-N9002).
I like SM-N9002 because it has dual sim.
Please help me to decide which one to get?
Thanks
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if you are choosing between the N9005 and the N9002,
in terms of hardware, they are practically the same except the dual sim version (N9002) supports only 3G up to HSPA+
while the single sim (N9005) will support LTE.
another thing of note is that the N9002 is a China exclusive model; it will still work for most carriers worldwide but the main catch is that it does not come with Google play store and google apps pre-installed. This can easily be rectified though by rooting and installing a custom ROM.
other than that, the N9002 is currently the king of dual sim phones worldwide; with premium flagship specifications.
so the choice would depend on your priority for LTE vs Dual sim.
racoonowner said:
if you are choosing between the N9005 and the N9002,
in terms of hardware, they are practically the same except the dual sim version (N9002) supports only 3G up to HSPA+
while the single sim (N9005) will support LTE.
another thing of note is that the N9002 is a China exclusive model; it will still work for most carriers worldwide but the main catch is that it does not come with Google play store and google apps pre-installed. This can easily be rectified though by rooting and installing a custom ROM.
other than that, the N9002 is currently the king of dual sim phones worldwide; with premium flagship specifications.
so the choice would depend on your priority for LTE vs Dual sim.
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Thanks very much!!!
you might regret choosing 9002 if you are a update maniac
When the Note 3 was released there was a pretty big difference between the two phones that initially made flashing roms from International on TMobile - wifi wouldn't work intially - internal SD Card was wiped frequently on flashing and a bunch of other issues made flashing International ROMS on TMOBILE phones difficult at first. (this was fixed later but it took a while)
The S5 was a lot different - I am not a technician or Developer by any means - but as a novice looking in - it almost seemed like International and Tmobile mobile note 3's were almost entirely different phones - whereas the S5's were almost identical.
I realize I maybe oversimplifying this - but doing so to make a point. I am very curious about what will happen with the Note 4. I doubt if there is any way to know until both phones are out and Devs start creating roms - but I wonder if the NOTE 4 will be more like it was with the NOTE 3 or will they be more like it was with the S5 ? Samsung will never listen to me but I think you know how I would vote -
looking forward to the NEXT BIG THING....
Not sure if you look at gsmarena or phonescoop, but kind of like the GN3, GS3 etc. The GN4 US variant has Q-com Snapdragon CPU, Int'l has Exynos (sp?) So some hardware is similar.
But T-mo variants vs other,like before T-mo rom has wifi call capability. Others do not.
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Not sure if you look at gsmarena or phonescoop, but kind of like the GN3, GS3 etc. The GN4 US variant has Q-com Snapdragon CPU, Int'l has Exynos (sp?) So some hardware is similar.
But T-mo variants vs other,like before T-mo rom has wifi call capability. Others do not.
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Sprint also has wifi calling
papabear said:
Not sure if you look at gsmarena or phonescoop, but kind of like the GN3, GS3 etc. The GN4 US variant has Q-com Snapdragon CPU, Int'l has Exynos (sp?) So some hardware is similar.
But T-mo variants vs other,like before T-mo rom has wifi call capability. Others do not.
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I realize that WIFI Calling is a major difference between international and TMOBILE - but I was more interested in the file structure of the phone and how wifi - or data works - not sure the reason, but it originally was difficult to flash International ROMS on the TMOBILE Note 3 - data wifi didn't work - data didn't work - and often the Internal SD card was wiped. When the S5 was released, the phones were so similar none of these problems happened. I was flashing International ROMS in the first day or two that the S5 was released.
I am not a dev so I can't speak to the reasons why it was this way on the NOte 3 - but except for the obvious differences (wifi Calling for example) I am only hoping that the Note 4 is more like it was with the S5 than it was with the note 3.
Lets make sure first that Tmobile keep its bootloader unlocked!
kinda like papabear was saying, i believe the S5 international vs US both had snapdragon, which made them very compatible. the GN3 had exynos/snapdragon, and that made them quite different. exynos didn't have near as much development.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6033&idPhone2=6434
The GS4 was really good with cross compatibility. The T-Mo and i9505 variants were very similar, both had the same CPU, etc. You could flash the same ROMs but not radios/modems or bootloaders. My concern is if the International Note 4 will work with T-Mo LTE since it doesn't have the 1700 band.
Dont forget about band 12.
Do we know If the international version N910F supportd Tmobile LTE? I think I saw a video on phonedog and the Josh was using an international version with a tmo sim card.
Any confirmation?
daraj said:
Do we know If the international version N910F supportd Tmobile LTE? I think I saw a video on phonedog and the Josh was using an international version with a tmo sim card.
Any confirmation?
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Notice how the symbol says 4G and not 4G LTE
Kawaisa said:
Notice how the symbol says 4G and not 4G LTE
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As far as I know, on the international models it doesnt say 4G LTE . It displays either LTE or 4G next to the reception bars.
mocsab said:
I realize that WIFI Calling is a major difference between international and TMOBILE - but I was more interested in the file structure of the phone and how wifi - or data works - not sure the reason, but it originally was difficult to flash International ROMS on the TMOBILE Note 3 - data wifi didn't work - data didn't work - and often the Internal SD card was wiped. When the S5 was released, the phones were so similar none of these problems happened. I was flashing International ROMS in the first day or two that the S5 was released.
I am not a dev so I can't speak to the reasons why it was this way on the NOte 3 - but except for the obvious differences (wifi Calling for example) I am only hoping that the Note 4 is more like it was with the S5 than it was with the note 3.
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I haven't used Samsung phone for a while, but from past experience I'm pretty sure that you only need to flash appropriate radio/kernel to get data and WiFi working again. just my 2 cents.
I've got my eyes on the note 4 and thinking about getting one to play with, I have Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 2013, yeah, I know I'm a Nexus junkie
Lancez said:
I haven't used Samsung phone for a while, but from past experience I'm pretty sure that you only need to flash appropriate radio/kernel to get data and WiFi working again. just my 2 cents.
I've got my eyes on the note 4 and thinking about getting one to play with, I have Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 2013, yeah, I know I'm a Nexus junkie
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That actually wasn't true with the NOTE 3 which is the main reason I did this thread in the first place. When the NOTE 3 was released, if you flashed an INTERNATIONAL ROM WIFI and DATA and blue tooth did not work at all. Someone eventually came up with a fix which had to be flashed anytime you flashed an international rom - I don't know why this was necessary - it just was - it was almost as if there was some major difference in file structure and programming on the International version versus the TMOBILE or Canadian Version.
The S5 wasn't like that at all - Virtually every International ROM worked beautifully from the get go on TMOBLILE phones. So - the NOTE 3 must have had something that was done differently on International Versions of the phone compared to TMOBILE and Canadian Versions - and I am hopeful that THE NOTE 4 doesn't do that.
So - I am excited about the Note 4 - can't wait for it to be released - I know all of our questions will be answered then - looking forward to it!
Bubbled said:
kinda like papabear was saying, i believe the S5 international vs US both had snapdragon, which made them very compatible. the GN3 had exynos/snapdragon, and that made them quite different. exynos didn't have near as much development.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6033&idPhone2=6434
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Exynos doesn't have anything to do this. ALL of these phones come in both versions - Snapdragon and Exnynos - the note 3, S5 and NOte 4 each have both variations.
anyone on a tmobile snapdragon note 3 had problems with wifi and data when trying to flash roms from the international snapdragon phones Note 3.... I honestly don't know why the NOTE 3 had this issue and the S5 didn't - but it doesn't have anything to do with Exynos - but fingers crossed that the NOTE 4 behaves more like the S5 than the Note 3 in this regard - it will make flashing much easier.
(PS - there is no evidence that TMOBILE will lock bootloader. ATT and Verizon will for sure - both have said as much - every phone ATT and VERIZON releases are locked (except the developer version on Verizon) but TMOBILE has not given any indication they will be locking the bootloader - I don't expect they will lock the bootloader on the note 4 - we will find out for sure in a few weeks...
mocsab said:
That actually wasn't true with the NOTE 3 which is the main reason I did this thread in the first place. When the NOTE 3 was released, if you flashed an INTERNATIONAL ROM WIFI and DATA and blue tooth did not work at all. Someone eventually came up with a fix which had to be flashed anytime you flashed an international rom - I don't know why this was necessary - it just was - it was almost as if there was some major difference in file structure and programming on the International version versus the TMOBILE or Canadian Version.
The S5 wasn't like that at all - Virtually every International ROM worked beautifully from the get go on TMOBLILE phones. So - the NOTE 3 must have had something that was done differently on International Versions of the phone compared to TMOBILE and Canadian Versions - and I am hopeful that THE NOTE 4 doesn't do that.
So - I am excited about the Note 4 - can't wait for it to be released - I know all of our questions will be answered then - looking forward to it!
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If odin is still the tool to flash samsung official ROM, then you should be able to choose what to flash and what not to. well, i might be wrong but thats how i did on AT&T Captivate, Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Nexus. I remember that i've been switching between international and US version ROMs with just ROM without flashing any radios. Samsung may changed ROM structure, that I have no idea. And Sale is still sending all the samsung ROMs to me whenever he made one:victory:
Going to give a international a try.. this will be my first international device. .
This the one to get? Lte will work on usa tmobile right?Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910 Factory Unlocked International Model by samsung http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N2Y5ALK/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_oUSmub0HH4M79
Lancez said:
If odin is still the tool to flash samsung official ROM, then you should be able to choose what to flash and what not to. well, i might be wrong but thats how i did on AT&T Captivate, Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Nexus. I remember that i've been switching between international and US version ROMs with just ROM without flashing any radios. Samsung may changed ROM structure, that I have no idea. And Sale is still sending all the samsung ROMs to me whenever he made one:victory:
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Like you had said, you haven't had sammy devices in a while. Lol, things have changed with the note varients my friend, its not that "easy" anymore. How can you be debating with people who actually own the note 3 and was flashing international roms? lol
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Like you had said, you haven't had sammy devices in a while. Lol, things have changed with the note varients my friend, its not that "easy" anymore. How can you be debating with people who actually own the note 3 and was flashing international roms? lol
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That was discussion my friend. and PDA is not the only option in odin.
markysd said:
Going to give a international a try.. this will be my first international device. .
This the one to get? Lte will work on usa tmobile right?Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910 Factory Unlocked International Model by samsung http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N2Y5ALK/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_oUSmub0HH4M79
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What do you hope to get by going with an international phone? It certainly won't have the optimum frequencies for tmobile network, it will likely work but they are opening new frequencies that the tmobile note 4 will be the first take advantage of...
p()()pypants said:
What do you hope to get by going with an international phone? It certainly won't have the optimum frequencies for tmobile network, it will likely work but they are opening new frequencies that the tmobile note 4 will be the first take advantage of...
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Dont care much about the frequency. . Lte and 4g is fast my aera. . No need for wifi calling also.. I want the exynos octo
Hi guys! I've been reading lots of threads and specs from the different variants of note 3. After all of them, I ended worst because now I can't decide myself for the version, this is what happens:
I am from Argentina, LTE is being settled and it uses band 4 (1700 for upload, 2100 for download). So this are my options (I don't have too much money so I'm limited to top US $500, I'm buying it there in US).
- AT&T Version (SM - N900A) has the band 4 for my country's LTE. The thing is I see it does not come with headphones and the other matter is, if I buy it unlocked, is it FACTORY unlocked even though is AT&T?
- SM - N9005. I found in all the forum and different web sites that this is the best version (mainly because of hardware). I really would like to buy this one, because I think it would be possible to activate band 4 with modem changes. The only problem is I've seen in the forum no one could (YET, but.. do you see it possible? I don't mind waiting)
- SM - N9000 (International Exynos version). Here in my country they sell only this one. I am buying it in US though because it's really cheaper. If I get this one I know I won't get LTE, but it seems there ir far more support in the SM - N9005.
I want to buy SM-N9005, but if I buy an LTE version and cannot use LTE... is it worth it (due to the other specs)? I don't find AT&T convincing so I try not to buy it.
Which do you recommend me to buy? And I would also be grateful if you reccommend me where to do it. I only know ebay and amazon almost all sellers there have some negative feedback.
Thanks!
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Hi guys! I've been reading lots of threads and specs from the different variants of note 3. After all of them, I ended worst because now I can't decide myself for the version, this is what happens:
I am from Argentina, LTE is being settled and it uses band 4 (1700 for upload, 2100 for download). So this are my options (I don't have too much money so I'm limited to top US $500, I'm buying it there in US).
- AT&T Version (SM - N900A) has the band 4 for my country's LTE. The thing is I see it does not come with headphones and the other matter is, if I buy it unlocked, is it FACTORY unlocked even though is AT&T?
- SM - N9005. I found in all the forum and different web sites that this is the best version (mainly because of hardware). I really would like to buy this one, because I think it would be possible to activate band 4 with modem changes. The only problem is I've seen in the forum no one could (YET, but.. do you see it possible? I don't mind waiting)
- SM - N9000 (International Exynos version). Here in my country they sell only this one. I am buying it in US though because it's really cheaper. If I get this one I know I won't get LTE, but it seems there ir far more support in the SM - N9005.
I want to buy SM-N9005, but if I buy an LTE version and cannot use LTE... is it worth it (due to the other specs)? I don't find AT&T convincing so I try not to buy it.
Which do you recommend me to buy? And I would also be grateful if you reccommend me where to do it. I only know ebay and amazon almost all sellers there have some negative feedback.
Thanks!
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I've a N9005
I don't regret having bought,my phone has 1~2 years old he work very well, I've no problem with hardware
there are option 4G hlte on setting but i don't know if it wort (no 4G in my contry)
For me, I advise you this model
The tmobile version is like the att version, but without the locked bootloader. SM-N900T
Sent from my leanKernel 3.16 powered stock 4.4.2 SM-N900T
mikloskass said:
Hi guys! I've been reading lots of threads and specs from the different variants of note 3. After all of them, I ended worst because now I can't decide myself for the version, this is what happens:
I am from Argentina, LTE is being settled and it uses band 4 (1700 for upload, 2100 for download). So this are my options (I don't have too much money so I'm limited to top US $500, I'm buying it there in US).
- AT&T Version (SM - N900A) has the band 4 for my country's LTE. The thing is I see it does not come with headphones and the other matter is, if I buy it unlocked, is it FACTORY unlocked even though is AT&T?
- SM - N9005. I found in all the forum and different web sites that this is the best version (mainly because of hardware). I really would like to buy this one, because I think it would be possible to activate band 4 with modem changes. The only problem is I've seen in the forum no one could (YET, but.. do you see it possible? I don't mind waiting)
- SM - N9000 (International Exynos version). Here in my country they sell only this one. I am buying it in US though because it's really cheaper. If I get this one I know I won't get LTE, but it seems there ir far more support in the SM - N9005.
I want to buy SM-N9005, but if I buy an LTE version and cannot use LTE... is it worth it (due to the other specs)? I don't find AT&T convincing so I try not to buy it.
Which do you recommend me to buy? And I would also be grateful if you reccommend me where to do it. I only know ebay and amazon almost all sellers there have some negative feedback.
Thanks!
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Buy note 4 mate. Better than note 3.
Thanks Fadhi, that's what i'll do!