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over the last few days I've flashed a number of ROMs, mostly the Google Edition 4.2.2 and 4.3 ones and every single one of them eventually fails to boot hanging on the Samsung bootloader screen. and i say eventually because the first boot is almost always flawless, but then each time i reboot or power down, its almost guaranteed to loop.
I've tried so many different combinations that there's really not a single path I've taken every time, but the general steps are:
-root original firmware using motochopper
-install TWRP via GooManager
-reboot recovery and wipe everything, typically I do Advanced and select everything, then format Data
-then flash through ADB sideload, I do this since I wipe everything before flashing and I don't have an external SD card
-immediately after flashing ROM, I flash loki-doki also through ADB sideload. some of the ROMs I tried said they were lokied, but I still got the ATT invalid ROM message, so I reflashed with loki and it worked.
-then reboot system and the first time it comes up and works fine on every ROM I've tried
But if I power down or restart, on a very rare occasion it'll come up, but almost every time it hangs on bootloader screen. I also noticed once it's stuck on bootloader, power button becomes unresponsive, sometimes holding it powers down device, sometimes does nothing (have to press and hold twice)
If I flash back to stock using Odin, it works, boots, reboots, powers down just fine.
I've also tried flashing with a ROM and then immediately after with the stock ATT kernel, also booted up fine, but looped on restart.
Could this be hardware issue?
I'm about to give up on this and go back to stock for good, which would be really disappointing, can anyone help?
Flash a KT kernel and see what happens, I suppose you know which one correct?
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Flash a KT kernel and see what happens, I suppose you know which one correct?
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I assume KT means http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292341 ?
I've tried that too with jamal2367's 4.2.2 GE ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341794). It refused to boot all together.
First time I flashed with AOSP version since I thought that was an AOSP ROM, then reading more comments in the other thread it said I needed the TW version for GE ROMs, so I tried that too. Either way, neither of them booted at all, even the first time, so I gave up on KT and only used either ROMs' included kernels or ATT stock.
It is not a hardware issue, I am guessing that you have a US ATT G4 correct? I would odin back to stock, and restart the process again, this is assuming you tried the correct TW kernels. Because I know this error and all it requires is a simple flash of the correct kernel.
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It is not a hardware issue, I am guessing that you have a US ATT G4 correct? I would odin back to stock, and restart the process again, this is assuming you tried the correct TW kernels. Because I know this error and all it requires is a simple flash of the correct kernel.
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OK I'll try one more time from scratch, can you verify I'm using the right stuff though for US ATT Galaxy S4:
ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341794
Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292341 (TW one, specifically http://goo.gl/SiDjB)
And any idea why the ROM's kernel wouldnt work after being lokied?
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OK I'll try one more time from scratch, can you verify I'm using the right stuff though for US ATT Galaxy S4:
ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341794
Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292341 (TW one, specifically http://goo.gl/SiDjB)
And any idea why the ROM's kernel wouldnt work after being lokied?
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You know, I don't even look at anything that says loki anymore, I flash the rom I want and use MY carriers kernel, bootloops and hangs are just not there, I do not see these issues everyone has, because, I have this procedure everytime. So...
Btw, your good on your files you want to flash, but, if this does not work ie, GE and that kernel, try a TW rom with the kernel, bet it boots properly. I do not give a rats
a$$ about goole roms. They are not worth it. Btw, I use this procedure on TW and aosp roms, no issues. Just because it says it loki'ed, flash the kernel you know works, loki just confuses people.
The Ax says again an again..My opinion only!
Good luck sir.
BTW, I ran that rom with the kernel you chose, it should work just fine. Remember, flash the TW version.
Thanks Ax for your help here, your welcome.
Phone stuck on "Samsung - Custom" screen after creating TWRP backup. Help please?
I have an ATT S4, that has had CM 10.1 on it running flawlessly pretty much since nightlies started to get released. Decided to try going back to some TW based ROMs. Running the latest nightly, loaded up TWRP, created a backup, as I usually do before swapping roms. Created the backup fine, now it won't boot, it just sits at the Samsung screen with the lock and Custom message. Wiped cache\dalvic, even tried restoring from the backup I just created. Nothing. Tried it with the phone plugged into the computer and without being plugged in (I think I recall it being plugged into USB could cause issues in the past), and still nada. Tried pulling the battery and rebooting about 10 times. Can get into recovery and odin mode perfectly fine still. Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks
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I have an ATT S4, that has had CM 10.1 on it running flawlessly pretty much since nightlies started to get released. Decided to try going back to some TW based ROMs. Running the latest nightly, loaded up TWRP, created a backup, as I usually do before swapping roms. Created the backup fine, now it won't boot, it just sits at the Samsung screen with the lock and Custom message. Wiped cache\dalvic, even tried restoring from the backup I just created. Nothing. Tried it with the phone plugged into the computer and without being plugged in (I think I recall it being plugged into USB could cause issues in the past), and still nada. Tried pulling the battery and rebooting about 10 times. Can get into recovery and odin mode perfectly fine still. Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks
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There are no less than a dozen similar threads about similar problems already. Have you looked at those threads for a possible solution yet? You can find them by using the search function or better yet just doing a visual search of the first few pages of the "General" and "Q&A" sections. Good luck.
Sounds like a ROM and kernel issue. Try flashing a ROM with a loki'd kernel.
Tylorw1
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Tylorw1 said:
Sounds like a ROM and kernel issue. Try flashing a ROM with a loki'd kernel.
Tylorw1
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I don't see how that could be the case. I didn't flash anything. I just loaded TWRP, created a backup, and rebooted my phone. No ROM\kernel change. Nothing more than creating a backup in TWRP.
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There are no less than a dozen similar threads about similar problems already. Have you looked at those threads for a possible solution yet? You can find them by using the search function or better yet just doing a visual search of the first few pages of the "General" and "Q&A" sections. Good luck.
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I tried searching, the closest one I could find on the first few pages was this one. I just didn't see any specific to my situation because nothing was flashed. Like my response to Tylorw1, all I did was boot into recovery, create a backup, and reboot my phone. Didn't flash a ROM, change a kernel, format anything, etc...
I has this same problem... It happened after every single reboot after flashing various ROMs or anything.. I gave up and went back to CWM and haven't had the problem since :good:
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Simonzi said:
I have an ATT S4, that has had CM 10.1 on it running flawlessly pretty much since nightlies started to get released. Decided to try going back to some TW based ROMs. Running the latest nightly, loaded up TWRP, created a backup, as I usually do before swapping roms. Created the backup fine, now it won't boot, it just sits at the Samsung screen with the lock and Custom message. Wiped cache\dalvic, even tried restoring from the backup I just created. Nothing. Tried it with the phone plugged into the computer and without being plugged in (I think I recall it being plugged into USB could cause issues in the past), and still nada. Tried pulling the battery and rebooting about 10 times. Can get into recovery and odin mode perfectly fine still. Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks
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what version of twrp? if it is 2.6.?.? then get off of it, also, what I did was pull battery for 3min, it booted fine....go back to early version of twrp...
STVERDI said:
I has this same problem... It happened after every single reboot after flashing various ROMs or anything.. I gave up and went back to CWM and haven't had the problem since :good:
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I've wanted to go back to CWM. That's what I had on my S3. Only thing stopping me, is all my nandroid backups for my S4 are done with TWRP, and I don't want to run into a situation where I need them, and them not being compatible
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what version of twrp? if it is 2.6.?.? then get off of it, also, what I did was pull battery for 3min, it booted fine....go back to early version of twrp...
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Nope, still on 2.5.0.2. Finally, after a third complete wipe/format and restore from the back I had created (the one that started the whole issue), it works fine. Such a huge pain in the ass.
a user had to boot back into twrp and wipe data/factory reset yesterday to fix this issue.
Simonzi said:
I've wanted to go back to CWM. That's what I had on my S3. Only thing stopping me, is all my nandroid backups for my S4 are done with TWRP, and I don't want to run into a situation where I need them, and them not being compatible
Nope, still on 2.5.0.2. Finally, after a third complete wipe/format and restore from the back I had created (the one that started the whole issue), it works fine. Such a huge pain in the ass.
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And you have to be ****ing kidding me. I rebooted into recovery while typing my initial response, just to verify I was still on the 2.5.x.x TWRP. Booted up TWRP, verified that, choose "Reboot System", and same thing. Back to sitting at the Samsung screen. Nandroid backups or not, ditching TWRP as soon as I get it able to boot back up.
Even worse off now than when I started. After my last post, where my phone was doing the same "stuck on Samsung logo" thing, just from booting into TWRP, I decided to swap to a different recovery. Searched for "switch from TWRP to CWM", and found my own post I had made a few months ago, but never went through.
Following those instructions now, I decided on the PhilZ CWM. Head over to that thread, grab the loki'd zip, load up TWRP, and flash the zip. Now I can't even boot into recovery!! It just freezes on the Samsung screen with the blue "recovery booting" text.
Can still get into download mode, so I tried using ODIN to flash PhilZ jflteatt.tar.md5 file, and it fails.
At this point, waiting for the stock 1.6 firmware package to download, so I can just ODIN that.
If anyone has any other suggestions though, they'd be great. Have an hour to try while waiting for that to download
somebody had mentioned this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44629460&postcount=8
make sure you have the correct firmware and proceed as you are. likely your best bet.
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Even worse off now than when I started. After my last post, where my phone was doing the same "stuck on Samsung logo" thing, just from booting into TWRP, I decided to swap to a different recovery. Searched for "switch from TWRP to CWM", and found my own post I had made a few months ago, but never went through.
Following those instructions now, I decided on the PhilZ CWM. Head over to that thread, grab the loki'd zip, load up TWRP, and flash the zip. Now I can't even boot into recovery!! It just freezes on the Samsung screen with the blue "recovery booting" text.
Can still get into download mode, so I tried using ODIN to flash PhilZ jflteatt.tar.md5 file, and it fails.
At this point, waiting for the stock 1.6 firmware package to download, so I can just ODIN that.
If anyone has any other suggestions though, they'd be great. Have an hour to try while waiting for that to download
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Stock 1.6 firmware package?
Make sure you get the correct firmware? Go to SamMobile and get the stock firmware from there or go to Adam Outlers "Stock firmware ODIN" thread in the General section (the AMDL firmware link is in that thread you just have to look for it).
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Stock 1.6 firmware package?
Make sure you get the correct firmware? Go to SamMobile and get the stock firmware from there or go to Adam Outlers "Stock firmware ODIN" thread in the General section (the AMDL firmware link is in that thread you just have to look for it).
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Yeah, I meant 1.6gb firmware package. Just forgot the "gb". That's what I'm currently downloading, but trying to recover it with Kies while waiting.
I would like to report I had the same problem.
After changing roms and making a nandroid, and then deciding to switch roms again, I ran into the stuck at Samsung Custom with a lock boot screen. Most roms would boot up once, but a restart or power down would lead to being stuck. I was flashing through TWRP.
I went into TWRP and flashed OUDHS recovery which overrode TWRP and wiped/flashed through OUDHS a new rom.
Problem solved.
S3 at&t stuck in TWRP booting screen.
xBeerdroiDx said:
a user had to boot back into twrp and wipe data/factory reset yesterday to fix this issue.
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Im new to custom roms, I pressed ok for an update on my phone, after the update was complete my phone shut off and booted into TWRP and now I can't get back to my android screen nor make calls etc. HELPPPPPPPP PLEASSSSSEE I have been trying to fix my phone since july and I have been using this cheap phone that don't even get internet. I have an S3 1747 at&t
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Im new to custom roms, I pressed ok for an update on my phone, after the update was complete my phone shut off and booted into TWRP and now I can't get back to my android screen nor make calls etc. HELPPPPPPPP PLEASSSSSEE I have been trying to fix my phone since july and I have been using this cheap phone that don't even get internet. I have an S3 1747 at&t
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Wrong forum. Please go to the s3 section with your question.
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Had this problem just now, solved it by fixing permissions.
I am running an MDL based S4, and screwed the pooch. I was going to wipe the internal storage and made the mistake of doing it through TWRP 2.5. Now, I have the same problem of being stuck on the custom boot screen. I have tried to change from TWRP to OUDHS Recovery, but still boot loops to Custom screen. I have tried fresh installs of 4.2 ROMs and 4.4.2 Google Editions. Do I need to flash via ODIN?
Flame away....I know better than this!!!!
Help would be greatly appreciated.
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So I decided to finally root my note 3 (for the first time) with 4.4.2 using towelroot, ss 3.72 and hyperdrive as my rom.
I created another rom slot, wiped it, then installed hyperdrive to the new slot, top of screen shows green and a successful install, rebooted system, safe strap splash screen was green, but then went black, after 30 min no response, had to pull battery and start up.
went back to the stock rom, but it shows "rom-slot1" in red at top of screen and install option is in red, activated rom slot 1 rebooted, safestrap splash is in red screen goes black, after an hour no boot.
Help much appreciated
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So I decided to finally root my note 3 (for the first time) with 4.4.2 using towelroot, ss 3.72 and hyperdrive as my rom.
I created another rom slot, wiped it, then installed hyperdrive to the new slot, top of screen shows green and a successful install, rebooted system, safe strap splash screen was green, but then went black, after 30 min no response, had to pull battery and start up.
went back to the stock rom, but it shows "rom-slot1" in red at top of screen and install option is in red, activated rom slot 1 rebooted, safestrap splash is in red screen goes black, after an hour no boot.
Help much appreciated
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SS 3.72 can't use the ROM slots. Only the stock slot.
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donc113 said:
SS 3.72 can't use the ROM slots. Only the stock slot.
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Thx for the help,
So should I do a factory reset onthe stock slot and install hyperdrive?? Or what is the correctway to go about installing because as of now I am completely unable to boot an os whether its 4.4.2 or not
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Thx for the help,
So should I do a factory reset onthe stock slot and install hyperdrive?? Or what is the correctway to go about installing because as of now I am completely unable to boot an os whether its 4.4.2 or not
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I would attempt the factory reset first and/or flash via Odin
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donc113 said:
I would attempt the factory reset first and/or flash via Odin
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Ok so ill try factory reset, as for flash via odin when ive tried that it say unauthorized software foind please gonto you local verizon dealer
bishopcoby1 said:
Ok so ill try factory reset, as for flash via odin when ive tried that it say unauthorized software foind please gonto you local verizon dealer
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Hey donc.
So i tried the factory reset, the Odin recovery was still telling me to go to verizon dealer, rebooted the system been black for an hour, had to do battery pull, also can no longer find the download hyperdrive file for me to install on stock rom.
Safestrap 3.75 will make room slots. But you have to flash the modem after the install. If you look in the android development forum here you will find the way to do it.
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So this morning, on my ATT GS4 NC1, I went into safestrap and created a new installation on rom slot 1. I guess that's what you call it. I pressed rom slot 1, then wiped, then installed hyperdrive. The install went fine and afterwards, I installed the NC1 module.zip and the SU zip file (both found in the "all things att" thread under "NC1 instructions".
Once it was done, I rebooted but what it did was boot to the regular stock rom. All my screens were the same (app placements, settings, etc) but I noticed I had no cell signal. I went to settings>mobile network and it said something about needing to install a sim card. Sorry I can't remember exactly what it said.
Anyhow, I went into safestrap, rebooted and then activated the stock rom slot and booted. Everything is fine.
What happened? Any ideas as to what happened? As of right now, I am running on the stock slot using the stock rom pending suggestions from you all.
Thanks!
KitKat ROMs will work only when flashed to stock slot.
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KitKat ROMs will work only when flashed to stock slot.
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Ok, that makes sense. I just did it using the stock slot and it works. thanks!
burgertime78 said:
Ok, that makes sense. I just did it using the stock slot and it works. thanks!
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Hmm I've been wondering this since I've not had success in doing so either. So what your saying is that it HAS to be done on STOCK slot in order for the rom to work? I've been scratching my head to why it refused to work for me. So it's safe? I had accidentally erased my stock rom cause I wiped that slot by mistake. So what's the procedure? Wipe the stock slot then install the rom on it then reboot? And how would I go about getting the stock back by clearing it again and installing the back up on the same slot? Please enlighten us cause I already got stuck on the black galaxy screen losing the safestrap and I had to odin the stock tar again.
I'm on NB1 4.4.2 and off course SS 3.72 beta. Thanks.
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Hmm I've been wondering this since I've not had success in doing so either. So what your saying is that it HAS to be done on STOCK slot in order for the rom to work? I've been scratching my head to why it refused to work for me. So it's safe? I had accidentally erased my stock rom cause I wiped that slot by mistake. So what's the procedure? Wipe the stock slot then install the rom on it then reboot? And how would I go about getting the stock back by clearing it again and installing the back up on the same slot? Please enlighten us cause I already got stuck on the black galaxy screen losing the safestrap and I had to odin the stock tar again.
I'm on NB1 4.4.2 and off course SS 3.72 beta. Thanks.
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Not really sure how 'safe' it is. What I did was use safe strap to create rom slot 1 and installed the rom there. It didn't work so I just went back and installed the rom in the 'stock' slot the same way - wiping first. that worked.
before I did anything, I did a full backup in safestrap. I backed up to my SD card. I'm glad I did because the rom I installed - hyperdrive - did a couple things I didn't like so I was able to reboot to recover(safestrap) and restore my backup to the stock slot. now I am back the way I Was before I messed around.
I'm still looking at other roms but I feel good I Was able to restore the backup.
here are the steps I took (I'm a noob, this may not be perfect)
1) boot to recovery in safestrap
2) make sure 'stock' is active - this means that the 'install button' is red
3) perform advanced wipe on stock slot - all but external sd card
4) press 'install' and install the rom
5) exit installer and then install NC1 ATT module
6) then install SU module
7) reboot - all is good
Awesome!
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Not really sure how 'safe' it is. What I did was use safe strap to create rom slot 1 and installed the rom there. It didn't work so I just went back and installed the rom in the 'stock' slot the same way - wiping first. that worked.
before I did anything, I did a full backup in safestrap. I backed up to my SD card. I'm glad I did because the rom I installed - hyperdrive - did a couple things I didn't like so I was able to reboot to recover(safestrap) and restore my backup to the stock slot. now I am back the way I Was before I messed around.
I'm still looking at other roms but I feel good I Was able to restore the backup.
here are the steps I took (I'm a noob, this may not be perfect)
1) boot to recovery in safestrap
2) make sure 'stock' is active - this means that the 'install button' is red
3) perform advanced wipe on stock slot - all but external sd card
4) press 'install' and install the rom
5) exit installer and then install NC1 ATT module
6) then install SU module
7) reboot - all is good
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Holy freaking crap dude thanks! I had feeling that was the way to do it. Thanks allot man, I'm currently organizing the folders, widgets and what not so i don't have to do it again if anything. I'll venture into it tomorrow. Again thanks! You answered a long awaited question.
Just tried a tmobile rom using a "SuperSU-v1.93.Zip" and got caught in a bootloop on the set up screen and even after on the main screen. Is that the same zip you used? If not can you link me? I wonder what the hell or if anyone else has been successful with a Damn tmobile rom, i used (the warp drive rom and 2 others on the list). God it was so cool when i saw the tmobile boot screen, ugh. And to make matters worse i found out that i have a faulty motherboard with the (no Sim, phone will reboot message). Damn I'm loving this stuff, just been running into some bad luck.
running stock rom on stock rom slot everything works fine, when i install a custom rom to rom slot 1 and boot to custom rom the rom works and does everything it should but i am not able to reboot or power off my phone. it does this if i am on custom rom or stock rom. when rebooting or powering off it gets stuck right after logo of rom goes away and stays there with led light, back arrow and open apps keys lit up. i have to remove battery and boot that way. after i wipe/ delete custom rom from rom slot 1 and everything works fine ??????
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running stock rom on stock rom slot everything works fine, when i install a custom rom to rom slot 1 and boot to custom rom the rom works and does everything it should but i am not able to reboot or power off my phone. it does this if i am on custom rom or stock rom. when rebooting or powering off it gets stuck right after logo of rom goes away and stays there with led light, back arrow and open apps keys lit up. i have to remove battery and boot that way. after i wipe/ delete custom rom from rom slot 1 and everything works fine ??????
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If you would have read numerous threads on the issue you would have known. Instead you found out the same way I did some weeks ago!! There are known bug issues with Safestrap that cause the problems you are experiencing when using a rom slot. Use the stock slot only and all will work well. Yes, this means you have to wipe out your stock S5 system, but you can always odin back to stock.
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If you would have read numerous threads on the issue you would have known. Instead you found out the same way I did some weeks ago!! There are known bug issues with Safestrap that cause the problems you are experiencing when using a rom slot. Use the stock slot only and all will work well. Yes, this means you have to wipe out your stock S5 system, but you can always odin back to stock.
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With our build you pretty much have to treat safestrap like any other custom recovery. Most other recoveries that I'm aware of don't have various slots for you to dual boot stock and custom roms. Making a backup within safestrap is definitely recommended before you wipe the stock rom slot that way if you want to go back, you won't need to recover with odin. Not saying that's a bad way to go, just a little inconvenient.
Sad to say the developer of our recovery if off doing other things. I don't know if this rom slot one issue is something that can be patched within the recovery, or it's it's more of a ROM developer kind of thing, but I don't see that getting fixed any time soon.
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With our build you pretty much have to treat safestrap like any other custom recovery. Most other recoveries that I'm aware of don't have various slots for you to dual boot stock and custom roms. Making a backup within safestrap is definitely recommended before you wipe the stock rom slot that way if you want to go back, you won't need to recover with odin. Not saying that's a bad way to go, just a little inconvenient.
Sad to say the developer of our recovery if off doing other things. I don't know if this rom slot one issue is something that can be patched within the recovery, or it's it's more of a ROM developer kind of thing, but I don't see that getting fixed any time soon.
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No it won't... Hash said in the safestrap thread that he was shutting down deveopment work on it... the only hope would be that another dev dives in to it.
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No it won't... Hash said in the safestrap thread that he was shutting down deveopment work on it... the only hope would be that another dev dives in to it.
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Considering it's open source, I'm hoping it won't be too long before another developer picks it up. (PlayfulGod maybe? )