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Hey everyone, Im previously coming from sg2 and the "legendary land" of project x,...(All hail Bilger!!), And I am considering upgrading to the LG G2 because of its beastly power & batt life, and size, unlike the note 3 which is kindly 2 large for my purposes, but still a great phone none the less. So i ask, has this been a decent phone for the masses? I know that with the storage limited to internal is a pain, but not a deal breaker considering it boasts at least a supposive 24 available gigs of sd storage. I've been doing research per all reviews & pros & cons, but i hope to rely on my xda homies to shed more light & their personal experience with this device....Thanks,,,,
Hey man, this phone is the best one i ve ever owned... if battery life is important to you, i think this one is the best decision you could possibly make... mine lasts 2 full days with moderate usage (1,5 hrs/day). i think lg made some optimization to bluetooth and wifi etc while the phone is in sleep mode, cause i got my bluetooth enabled all the time... + the snapdragon 800 is a beast!
if you buy it, check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinyroar.xposedlgg2. perfect app!
EDIT: I also came from a sgs2... glad that i got away from samsung. i dont like the way they've choosen in the past...
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Hey everyone, Im previously coming from sg2 and the "legendary land" of project x,...(All hail Bilger!!), And I am considering upgrading to the LG G2 because of its beastly power & batt life, and size, unlike the note 3 which is kindly 2 large for my purposes, but still a great phone none the less. So i ask, has this been a decent phone for the masses? I know that with the storage limited to internal is a pain, but not a deal breaker considering it boasts at least a supposive 24 available gigs of sd storage. I've been doing research per all reviews & pros & cons, but i hope to rely on my xda homies to shed more light & their personal experience with this device....Thanks,,,,
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Also came from an SGS2. Love my G2. Wanted a bigger screen and 4G - got both. Yup I had Kitkat on the S2 but LG JB is OK and hopefully KK will make it officially some day (running stock - have no reason to swap ROMs yet.)
Huge upside - battery life. For my usage had to charge S2 every night (as was down to 20-30%). G2 gives me 3 days use easily and 4 on light usage. Tap-on, love it. Screen glass is better version of gorilla or whatever - my S2 picked up fingerprints like crazy, the G2 glass stays clean. Storage space no sweat as the Wireless sharing works fine for me to xfer to/from PC. Also went berserk and got one of these gadgets for a whopping £1.39 so can carry extra storage with me if I have to (or read micro-SD from my other stuff on the G2 no problem (haven’t tried any OTG device yet.)
Personally figure the G2 is a steal - prices in the UK are pretty much down to Nexus 5 levels and as I was looking for a large, but pocket size, screen, is perfect for me.
ps - also love indicator light which shows if there has been any action (SMS/calls/messages etc) without powering up display.
Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
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c3cil said:
Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
c3cil
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Dude, there are already threads with exactly these questions asked and answered here...
Anyway, i came from s3 mini and didn't regret buying this device for one second. Battery is amazing in my opinion (getting nearly 24 hours from 100 to 0 with about 6 hours screen on). Performance is good too, at least for me. But keep in mind that its not compareable to latest state of the art like one plus or s5. But it comes for a realy fair price...
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After 1 month of use i say this phone is great.
More excited to get android Lollipop.
this phone is just awesome , really.
if you don't want to spend to much on a phone - this is the phone for you.
awesome phone the best part is speaker in front really helpful when watching movies or songs
sent from moto 2 gen
It's a good phone no doubt, as for battery life I'm getting around 8-10 hours (I'm not a gamer but a heavy whatsapp user).
KingGehl said:
Dude, there are already threads with exactly these questions asked and answered here...
Anyway, i came from s3 mini and didn't regret buying this device for one second. Battery is amazing in my opinion (getting nearly 24 hours from 100 to 0 with about 6 hours screen on). Performance is good too, at least for me. But keep in mind that its not compareable to latest state of the art like one plus or s5. But it comes for a realy fair price...
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OnePlus "State of the art"? What you been drinking? LOL
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OnePlus "State of the art"? What you been drinking? LOL
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Only the hard stuff but dude, have you had a look at its specifications?
Don't hesitate
You can't be wrong. I received mine two weeks ago and couldn't be happier. I used a Samsung Galaxy S2 for almost three years (it was running OmniROM 4.4.4), and I was planning to buy an Galaxy S4, but then I thought I didn't want to spend US$400 on a phone. Finally I bought Moto G 2014 (8GB, Global model with one microSIM - XT1063).
PROS:
- Great screen, may not be "retina" however looks crisp and clear and the five inches are the perfect size.
- Fast enough. I do play games, and even some fast games run smoothly. I was a little scared on the 1.2 Ghz quad Qualcomm, but it's fast and saves a lot of battery.
- I've run 18 straight hours with moderate usage and still 25% battery. Battery is great.
- The microSD slot is just great to have. I spent US$16 on a Transcend 32GB Class10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter and moved my heavy apps there as my ebooks, music and pictures.
- Sometimes you will use your phone to make actual calls. Let me tell you, the sound is great, so natural I was scared when I received the first call.
- Reception is excellent. I usually make a call everyday and with the SGS2 I always lose signal at certain highway spot. I was surprised the Moto managed to keep good quality sound through the same spot. (I'm using same carrier). Of course I did this with the loud speaker (s).
- Comfortable with one hand operation. Perfect size.
- Dual speakers with acceptable sound.
- No bloatware (almost)
- Altough I'm still enjoying stock experience, the phone is easily rootable, and Motorola helps you unlock the bootloader themselves on the site (there's a thread explaining step by step here on XDA)
- Lollipop on the way
- Camera quality very good on normal conditions. Even better than my SGS2 with the same 8 MP camera.
- Not ultra slim, but slim enogh. I was worried about this, but have no regrets. The phone is a great looking device.
- Led indicator
CONTRAS
- I was used to the home button on Samsung devices, and was a little afraid to break the power button, however I found no complains from one year users of the original Moto G. Also there are a few good aps to wake up device with the proximity sensor or accelerator.
- This is being too sissy, but my first Motorola Milestone had a multicolor led indicator which was cool to know if it was a message, lost call, email, etc. Moto G 2014 led is always white.
- In low light conditions, camera is not that good, but there are ways to improve with manual settings.
Let me tell you, all my friends/relatives who've seen my new phone are envy or buying one.
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Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
c3cil
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There are several rumors making their rounds where the ram is now being quoted as being 5 or 6 Gb?? can anyone from Asus comment over this?
5-6gb for what :lol: You want your phone to be a supercomputer or something? Planning to play 'Shadow of Mordor' on your phone?
95% (even 99%) people not using upto 4GB. 4GB is more than enough at least for now.
What we really need/want is better battery life and user experience like better camera, better software, better performance, blah blah...
What I want to see Zenfone 3 is 2 (or even 3) days battery life with a 3000mah (or more) battery, 7-10h screen on time. Not 6GB RAM for nothing and 1.5-2h screen on-time.
@ Archmage1809 ... Completely agree on your point...Most of the smartphones who boast on better processors/ram/software sucks in terms of battery.. Lenovo / Gionee are launching phones with 5000mAh...what is the use of a smartphone if it doesnt give better battery backup.
hey now... why should I NOT get to play 'Shadow of Mordor' on my phone given the chance??... just think... you plug your phone with any bigger screen and boom ... every game you ever wanted is right there!!! OTG to connect a mouse and keyboard and you are all set to go ... no need to buy or carry gaming laptops anymore!! ohh the things I could get done if only this comes along! if you can get a replacement of your laptop/tablet/gaming console ...in a neat all in one package ... why the heck not!!
there are other options for better battery life if anyone wants them ... but for 350~400 $ I get an alternative for 1000$ on a minimum..
What is the use of the phone that allows you to play any game you want but in a few hours you have to keep it for charging ?
Yes, No doubt its a great thing that we might get that much amount of ram in some time but without fixing the battery issue which is a necessity that much amount of ram does not make any sense to me.
If they or for that matter any Smartphone manufacturer want to get something right for now that is battery life. If they do and then give us 5/6 gb of ram it would be awesome.
Asus Zenfone 2 4gb model is giving me only 4h screen on time which is not great at all. If you compare it with other phones in the market right now its the worst out of the lot. Battery is the Achilles Heel for this phone.
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What is the use of the phone that allows you to play any game you want but in a few hours you have to keep it for charging ?
Yes, No doubt its a great thing that we might get that much amount of ram in some time but without fixing the battery issue which is a necessity that much amount of ram does not make any sense to me.
If they or for that matter any Smartphone manufacturer want to get something right for now that is battery life. If they do and then give us 5/6 gb of ram it would be awesome.
Asus Zenfone 2 4gb model is giving me only 4h screen on time which is not great at all. If you compare it with other phones in the market right now its the worst out of the lot. Battery is the Achilles Heel for this phone.
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Agree to this and everyone who says battery is a priority.
@op remember why phones were made. To communicate is the first priority, business application, navigation, news, social media and portable camera. The gaming is just at the end of their priority. Why not buy a device solely made and designed for gaming??? A phone is a phone regardless old tech or smartphone, remember why it was built for in the first place.
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What is the use of the phone that allows you to play any game you want but in a few hours you have to keep it for charging ?
Yes, No doubt its a great thing that we might get that much amount of ram in some time but without fixing the battery issue which is a necessity that much amount of ram does not make any sense to me.
If they or for that matter any Smartphone manufacturer want to get something right for now that is battery life. If they do and then give us 5/6 gb of ram it would be awesome.
Asus Zenfone 2 4gb model is giving me only 4h screen on time which is not great at all. If you compare it with other phones in the market right now its the worst out of the lot. Battery is the Achilles Heel for this phone.
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I get around 4.5 to 5 hours SOT with power nap, greenify, amplify, project T kernal and superZen debloated... With around 18 to 20 standby... You can track my earlier posts here for screenshots as well... So you CAN get more juice if you twist it right... Check that out first...
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Agree to this and everyone who says battery is a priority.
@op remember why phones were made. To communicate is the first priority, business application, navigation, news, social media and portable camera. The gaming is just at the end of their priority. Why not buy a device solely made and designed for gaming??? A phone is a phone regardless old tech or smartphone, remember why it was built for in the first place.
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Why buy a phone with 4gb when 1gb versions do all that you wrote above... It's a niche market and and should cater to different people.. Let's say they roll out different versions... One with 6gb ram and the other with 6000mah bat.... Everyone is happy..
Capitalism at it's finest..
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Why buy a phone with 4gb when 1gb versions do all that you wrote above... It's a niche market and and should cater to different people.. Let's say they roll out different versions... One with 6gb ram and the other with 6000mah bat.... Everyone is happy..
Capitalism at it's finest..
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Fragmentation is why.
We were lucky that Z00A encompassed so many variants, that the same ROM can be used across the board. Z008, ZF 2E, Laser, Selfie, et cetera, weren't so lucky. That group by and large lost out to the developer treats afforded to Z00A.
Bigger battery -> different form factor -> different model.
To say everyone will happy by having more models, is a misunderstanding. The current dumping of models upset a lot of people when they realized they would be left out this time around.
Rather than upping the obvious eyecatchers like RAM that don't really add much to the phone at this point, I'd rather see a Zenfone 2.1 or whatever they want to call it:
Keep the 4GB and the Z3580 (or go Z3590 if they must)
Do something (anything) to improve battery life
Improve the speaker to match the awesomeness-suggesting grill on the back
Include a higher quality camera module that works well in any app, not just ASUS' own
The current CPU and especially RAM should mean it's pretty futureproof, and by keeping the specs roughly the same custom ROMs for the Z00A can be used. ASUS would save on development costs yet produce a cracking phone that could, for the right price, get ASUS' name out there, which would mean a true Zenfone 3 will have to be good when the time comes if they remain serious about the mobile market.
Well I have my hopes up for a plug and play beast... This phone pushed me into learning about Android and Linux on a programming level.. And thanks to Udemy ..I would be ready for something around next year... Thanks for letting me learn something new.. Especially the information about form factors... Really got a different perspective now... But still.. 6gig would be a hellovathing...
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I get around 4.5 to 5 hours SOT with power nap, greenify, amplify, project T kernal and superZen debloated... With around 18 to 20 standby... You can track my earlier posts here for screenshots as well... So you CAN get more juice if you twist it right... Check that out first...
Capitalism at it's finest..
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I dont want to Hijack this thread for an issue I am facing with this phone. But I have tried every possible thing without rooting (as I dont want to void my warranty just yet) But if you have any posts which helps out please advise that I would like to go through it.
Apart from that staying on the topic. No one can make everyone happy. Hence requirements are different for everyone. My priority is Battery as everything else is available in this phone. There are some Gimmicky things which other phones are giving and Asus Zenfone 2 does not have that but I am fine with that.
There are three things which I consider as Cons for this awesome phone..
1. Battery
2. No backlight for capacitive buttons
3. Display is not that bright when at maximum... Check White to Contrast ratio when max.
Bdw as per the NEWS Asus Zenfone 3 would still have 2/4 gb ram not more.
I'd be down for bigger battery but 5gb ram? Don't think we need that in our phones yet.
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I'd be down for bigger battery but 5gb ram? Don't think we need that in our phones yet.
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Agreed, 20% more battery life is 10x better than 20% more RAM.
Will PM you later when free..
4gb ddr3 to 4gb ddr4
22nm to 14nm
Is the best way to go
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Why buy a phone with 4gb when 1gb versions do all that you wrote above... It's a niche market and and should cater to different people.. Let's say they roll out different versions... One with 6gb ram and the other with 6000mah bat.... Everyone is happy..
Capitalism at it's finest..
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What your asking is not a niche but a bespoke phone and Asus marketing strategy focuses on mass general market which does not need a bespoke 6gb and 6000mah battery combo. Their lineup and variants with their prices range should have been a dead give away. Maybe try Samsung or HTC which caters to the higher price range and closer to bespoke market.
2GB is fairly sufficient. I have a Huawei Ascend mate 2 with only 16gb internal, 2gb of RAM and a 128gb micro SD and it's more than enough. I did order this device in the 64gb, 4gb ram version and am anxious to see how it is. It's arriving today. If anyone on here has unlocked their bootloader and rooted, would you mind sharing your expierences and or the simplest way to go about this?
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2GBis fairly sufficient. I have a Huawei Ascend mate 2 with only 16gb internal, 2gb of RAM and a 128gb micro SD and it's more than enough. I did order this device in the 64gb, 4gb ram version and am anxious to see how it is. It's arriving today. If anyone on here has unlocked their bootloader and rooted, would you mind sharing your expierences and or the simplest way to go about this?
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Don't install custom rom yet by unlocking your bootloader. Asus so far has been improving their firmwares almost twice a month if I'm not mistaken and it's getting better as it is. There are rumors that the new fw v2.20.40.127 might be coming out this week with a hefty 123mb more or less file size.
But if the current fw and os does not satisfy you, might I suggest the cm12.1 for zf2 nightly which is one of the most popular roms here and in zentalk and so far as per several user comment the most stable of them all for the zf2 x86 device.
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How about 6000 mAh battery? ASUS you feel me?
now that you guys have seen the new moto, what do you think? would you buy it?
the buzz killer a bit for me is the deleted 3.5mm headphone jack
well it's estimated that moto z2 force is gonna cost for apx $621.49/- which i personally think is costly and not worth it
pros:
snapdragon 835(faster ovbio.. u will get updates more quicker & better performance)
dual camera (which is good feature)
shaterproof screen (nice)
5.5 quadhd amoled (nice)
cons:
battery (2730mAh) not worth
no audio jack (upto you)
moto mods... (too costly)
4GB ram... (one plus 5 has released phones upto 8GB and moto still at 4GB)
wall charger now gives 12W instead of 20W power (won't charge quick like moto x style/pure)
final review: just look and think. if i was you i would have not wasted my $621.49/- for this. instead i would have got a new and better phone
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well it's estimated that moto z2 force is gonna cost for apx $621.49/- which i personally think is costly and not worth it
pros:
snapdragon 835(faster ovbio.. u will get updates more quicker & better performance)
dual camera (which is good feature)
shaterproof screen (nice)
5.5 quadhd amoled (nice)
cons:
battery (2730mAh) not worth
no audio jack (upto you)
moto mods... (too costly)
4GB ram... (one plus 5 has released phones upto 8GB and moto still at 4GB)
wall charger now gives 12W instead of 20W power (won't charge quick like moto x style/pure)
final review: just look and think. if i was you i would have not wasted my $621.49/- for this. instead i would have got a new and better phone
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the pure has 5.7 quad HD screen
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the pure has 5.7 quad HD screen
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but its isp whereas the z2 force is amoled
2700 mah on a snapdragon 835. I don't know what motorola is thinking about but is way above the average for a 2017 flagship. It is a ridiculous decision from a ridiculous company.
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2700 mah on a snapdragon 835. I don't know what motorola is thinking about but is way above the average for a 2017 flagship. It is a ridiculous decision from a ridiculous company.
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Agreed. 100%. I'll link the Reddit thread about why the Z2 force sucks for what it is.
yeah ill be more concerned about the battery because once your using all those apps on that 4gb of ram and it gets close to max... that battery is going to be shot.
had they included 6gb of ram i may have been more willing to buy it
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yeah ill be more concerned about the battery because once your using all those apps on that 4gb of ram and it gets close to max... that battery is going to be shot.
had they included 6gb of ram i may have been more willing to buy it
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Umm... What? Why would having 2, 4, or 6 GB of RAM have any relation to battery life? That doesn't make any sense... personally I just don't like it because the battery is too small, period.
The Moto Z play was a phone whose quality construction was the worst. The back "glass" scratched with only seeyin it, the cámera lens wasn't even scratch prof so it gets scratched too. The screen was mounted in a way that with a 10cm fall it break in 10 pieces. Lenovo chose to save cents in a 450 USD phone just putting in it the worse materials ever.
Eveen with this in mind it is a phone wich become a sales record just for his amazin battery life, like 12 hours of SoT in some cases.
Now what is even even even more amazing that what they did with the Z2 force, is how they cut the battery of the Z Play in their Z Play 2, to release a phone a little bit tiny with almost the same processor, the same screen and similar cameras, justo to price it 150 U$D more. Not only they cut the battery mAh in 600mah, it doesn't last even the half of the Z Play wich was a succes for his battery life. All of this just to gain 1mm less Lol.
Really i don't know what they are thinking about, maybe they think they are going to sell more mods in this way but only a monkey will pay so much for a phone that much overpriced with poor battery life. To this just add the shi**y customer services and support they had. I am just crossing my fingers for Nokia to come worldwide.
The battery isn't too bad since it's less than 10% smaller than the Pure's with the addition of a more efficient processor and an AMOLED display help balance it out
The extra memory is nice, but it won't make too much of a difference in the day to day use that I have
The shatter-proof display is really cool, but it's plastic and can be scratched so easily, at that point I'd rather have a glass screen and a screen protector
I could never see myself buying a moto mod because of them being too pricey along with me preferring to have a case on at all times
The dual camera thing is nice, but I'm perfectly satisfied with the single camera on the Pure. The Camera bump is also terrible and I'd hate to deal with that if I couldn't have a case on
The lack of dual front facing speakers is a pretty big downside for me, but I'd be willing to deal with it if the phone had more pros
I personally hate the way Moto has implemented the fingerprint scanner since it can't be used as a home button and the software buttons are still there just wasting screen real-estate
It's being shipped with an already out of date version of Nougat (7.1.1) and then it'll get O and (maybe) P. The only thing I would be happy about in regards to the updates is the possibility of them being delivered more quickly
Finally, the price. Assuming that everyone here that is thinking about switching from the Pure, (based on the current prices from Swappa and Ebay) you'll probably get about $200 from a 16GB used Pure. Then you could get it for about $520 (assuming that you buy the phone for $720). Ultimately, this is a bad deal and nowhere near worth it for me
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Umm... What? Why would having 2, 4, or 6 GB of RAM have any relation to battery life? That doesn't make any sense... personally I just don't like it because the battery is too small, period.
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come on... you know as memory gets closer to capacity it draws more power
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come on... you know as memory gets closer to capacity it draws more power
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Lol... Sure, ok
Jonathanlc2005 said:
come on... you know as memory gets closer to capacity it draws more power
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Please show me where you for your information because pretty sure you're wrong.
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Please show me where you for your information because pretty sure you're wrong.
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well... you tell me. why dont you prove me wrong. do 2 runs. with no timeout and max brightness.
using a task manager run a phone with 90% ram like clash of clans and a bunch of other **** and run another one with less than 50%
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well... you tell me. why dont you prove me wrong. do 2 runs. with no timeout and max brightness.
using a task manager run a phone with 90% ram like clash of clans and a bunch of other **** and run another one with less than 50%
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So now you're bringing screen brightness into this? Lol
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well... you tell me. why dont you prove me wrong. do 2 runs. with no timeout and max brightness.
using a task manager run a phone with 90% ram like clash of clans and a bunch of other **** and run another one with less than 50%
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You are likely missing an important piece here... those apps running, are RUNNING, in other words they are doing stuff like accessing the processor, sensors, storage, etc.
[troll]Logic says your thought that having more RAM's reduces power consumption is flawed... if anything it is the opposite, more RAM will likely require more power because the more stuff in RAM, the more things running and doing stuff, thus using more battery.[/troll]
Sorry, but this topic has been debated to death since different RAM variants of otherwise identical Android devices came out and the consensus is that the amount of RAM in otherwise similar devices has no noticeable impact on battery consumption... Do you see reviews where a difference in battery life is noted between say the Moto G5 Plus 2/32GB and 4/64GB models, the OP5's 6GB or 8GB variant, or the Redmi Note 4 which comes in a 2, 3, and 4GB variant? No... why? Because there is no difference in battery consumption. There is potential of difference for many other things related specifically to RAM, but not battery life.
Show me a review or article that is from a verifiable, reputable source that states the contrary and explains WHY it would take more power and I will gladly read it.
There is also the piece we haven't mentioned, that a device should never have more than 10-15% of free RAM anyway... this is a Linux based OS, meaning free RAM is wasted RAM.
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You are likely missing an important piece here... those apps running, are RUNNING, in other words they are doing stuff like accessing the processor, sensors, storage, etc.
[troll]Logic says your thought that having more RAM's reduces power consumption is flawed... if anything it is the opposite, more RAM will likely require more power because the more stuff in RAM, the more things running and doing stuff, thus using more battery.[/troll]
Sorry, but this topic has been debated to death since different RAM variants of otherwise identical Android devices came out and the consensus is that the amount of RAM in otherwise similar devices has no noticeable impact on battery consumption... Do you see reviews where a difference in battery life is noted between say the Moto G5 Plus 2/32GB and 4/64GB models, the OP5's 6GB or 8GB variant, or the Redmi Note 4 which comes in a 2, 3, and 4GB variant? No... why? Because there is no difference in battery consumption. There is potential of difference for many other things related specifically to RAM, but not battery life.
Show me a review or article that is from a verifiable, reputable source that states the contrary and explains WHY it would take more power and I will gladly read it.
There is also the piece we haven't mentioned, that a device should never have more than 10-15% of free RAM anyway... this is a Linux based OS, meaning free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Well said ace!!!??
Here's another good reason not to buy the MZ2F
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/07/31/moto-z2-forces-unbreakable-screen-may-deal-breaker/
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Here's another good reason not to buy the MZ2F
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/07/31/moto-z2-forces-unbreakable-screen-may-deal-breaker/
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Lenovo downgrade the quality of their product to a really poor level. It started with the lenz of the g4 and Z line and continued with the Z play screen an back cover. They prefer to save cents not putting scratch test glass that bringing a solid product to their clients.
Not a chance, the Moto z2 force is a downgrade to this phone
So im looking to purchase a nokia 6.1 plus global, read that you have to pay to unlock this phones bootloader tho, and i dont wanna do that. After a while of searching through videos onlin eand some blatantly fake ones, i saw one of an indian dude following a tutorial from a website called techmesto, which provides a tool that can unlock your bootloader, free of cost. the only issue is that you need to be able to get an otp on the website, and only 15 are generated in a day, so you have to be patient and keep trying. I know many people here are looking into unlocking their device for free, so can anyone test it out and reply with whether it works or not? The comments are moslty favouring it, with some asking if it works on other devices. It'd really help out the community, and would help me make the purchase with confidence too. Best of luck,
yes it's working perfectly, already tried it on my 6.1 plus ID region.
got the otp code after 3-4 days trying and checking the website constantly.
fake2die said:
yes it's working perfectly, already tried it on my 6.1 plus ID region.
got the otp code after 3-4 days trying and checking the website constantly.
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Thank you so much for the info, im currently looking to upgrade from my galaxy j5 at a low cost, then an ad for a nokia 6.1 plus (4/64) showed up for around £45, with the box and charger. After taking a look at the specs, I just had to buy it, but upon looking for some good custom roms, i found that bootloader unlocking was paid, which didnt suit me. So your reply has really helped out, as now I can purchase the device with confidence!
4 other questions for you though,
1. How is the battery life on this device? Some people say it lasts a day on light usage, while others say it lasts about 4 hours (screen on time)
2. Have you ever experienced the "charging port" issue? Many people have reported a charging port manufacturing problem, which can be fixed by repalcing the port, although some claim that there are still issues after replacing the port as well.
3. Is the smaller screen size annoying? Compared to most of today's phones being 6.2" or so, does it not feel as good to use a smaller screen or do you just not notice? Are the bezel really big? I'm aware of the larger notch (which im actually a fan of), but what about the thickness of the bezels and chin?
4. Do you experience any random reboots, or slow speed/lag? People using the nokia stock rom (android 10) claim that the device will sometimes randomly reboot, and that the performance is terrible one android 10, along with the battery life becoming worse.
My final question is, do you think that it's a good device to upgrade to in 2022? Coming from the Snapdragon 410, I think the 636 will be much better, with double my previous phone's ram and 4x the storage, along with a sleek thin bezel design and a glass+alluminium construction. If you have any problems with the device, please tell me about them here, I need to make my purchase within 6 days, so your (and anyone else's) help would be appreciated.
My only other option in this price range is the redmi 9c, or the realme c11 (both of which i dont like because their chipsets are weak and they lack ram, software is also not too good and they run mediatek SoCs, so im not sure about custom roms on those devices).
I'd really appreciate if you could help me out here, sorry for the long post.
Thanks in advance!
fake2die said:
yes it's working perfectly, already tried it on my 6.1 plus ID region.
got the otp code after 3-4 days trying and checking the website constantly.
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And also one other question regarding the bootlaoder unlock. When did you unlock it? I've heard that it might not work if you try it on the android 10 update, but the phone im getting is fully updated, so do you know if it works on android 10 as well? Did you encounter any issues while doing it, or was it straighforward (other than the OTP)?
PhotonIce said:
1. How is the battery life on this device? Some people say it lasts a day on light usage, while others say it lasts about 4 hours (screen on time)
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Sometimes it is the same. It depends on your individual using mode. Actually, the average battery life is a day of light usage I'm not a gamer.
PhotonIce said:
2. Have you ever experienced the "charging port" issue? Many people have reported a charging port manufacturing problem, which can be fixed by repalcing the port, although some claim that there are still issues after replacing the port as well.
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It's a pretty annoying problem. I have encountered it since three years of using. But after replacing the charging board my phone works perfectly. Possible bugs associated with this for different users, I think, may arise due to geographical features and using of different bands. Or just a defective board.
PhotonIce said:
4. Do you experience any random reboots, or slow speed/lag?
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Reboots and rare slowdowns are inherent in any device, regardless of performance. It all depends on the volume and complexity of the tasks. During normal use there are no friezes and reboots. But this is MY experience.
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If you have any problems with the device, please tell me about them here
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One more unpleasant thing: Another unpleasant thing that also happened after about three years of using was the vibration motor failing. But judging by the reviews of other users, this is not a mass problem, unlike the charging port.
Bookworm Yevgen said:
Sometimes it is the same. It depends on your individual using mode. Actually, the average battery life is a day of light usage I'm not a gamer.
It's a pretty annoying problem. I have encountered it since three years of using. But after replacing the charging board my phone works perfectly. Possible bugs associated with this for different users, I think, may arise due to geographical features and using of different bands. Or just a defective board.
Reboots and rare slowdowns are inherent in any device, regardless of performance. It all depends on the volume and complexity of the tasks. During normal use there are no friezes and reboots. But this is MY experience.
One more unpleasant thing: Another unpleasant thing that also happened after about three years of using was the vibration motor failing. But judging by the reviews of other users, this is not a mass problem, unlike the charging port.
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Alright, thank you SO much for the help!
How much did the charging port replacement cost you though? The one I'm buying claims to never have been repaired, so do you think the original port will be fine or will i be forced to get it repaired later on?
A charging board that looks like the original one costs about $5. She works perfectly for me. WiFi, microphone and so on. I ordered it on AliExpress and replaced it myself. So, it cost me less than I would have paid at a service center.
But in this case, you need to have tools and skills to do it yourself.
You can only replace the type-c connector. This is more reliable(I think so...), and the connector itself is cheaper than the board (its cost is about $1.5-2), but the repair is more complicated and requires more serious tools and qualification, which involves soldering the connector.
How long such a repair will work is unknown. The factory connector worked a long time, I wrote above. But this is not a guarantee that a new or refurbished one will work as much.
Alright, thanks for the info
The entire charging port board is only $8 in my area, so that shouldnt be a problem. The adhesive on the back glass isnt too strong is it? I dont want to break the glass when replacing the port if I ever have to.
PhotonIce said:
The adhesive on the back glass isnt too strong is it? I dont want to break the glass
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Watch this video for example.
PhotonIce said:
Thank you so much for the info, im currently looking to upgrade from my galaxy j5 at a low cost, then an ad for a nokia 6.1 plus (4/64) showed up for around £45, with the box and charger. After taking a look at the specs, I just had to buy it, but upon looking for some good custom roms, i found that bootloader unlocking was paid, which didnt suit me. So your reply has really helped out, as now I can purchase the device with confidence!
4 other questions for you though,
1. How is the battery life on this device? Some people say it lasts a day on light usage, while others say it lasts about 4 hours (screen on time)
2. Have you ever experienced the "charging port" issue? Many people have reported a charging port manufacturing problem, which can be fixed by repalcing the port, although some claim that there are still issues after replacing the port as well.
3. Is the smaller screen size annoying? Compared to most of today's phones being 6.2" or so, does it not feel as good to use a smaller screen or do you just not notice? Are the bezel really big? I'm aware of the larger notch (which im actually a fan of), but what about the thickness of the bezels and chin?
4. Do you experience any random reboots, or slow speed/lag? People using the nokia stock rom (android 10) claim that the device will sometimes randomly reboot, and that the performance is terrible one android 10, along with the battery life becoming worse.
My final question is, do you think that it's a good device to upgrade to in 2022? Coming from the Snapdragon 410, I think the 636 will be much better, with double my previous phone's ram and 4x the storage, along with a sleek thin bezel design and a glass+alluminium construction. If you have any problems with the device, please tell me about them here, I need to make my purchase within 6 days, so your (and anyone else's) help would be appreciated.
My only other option in this price range is the redmi 9c, or the realme c11 (both of which i dont like because their chipsets are weak and they lack ram, software is also not too good and they run mediatek SoCs, so im not sure about custom roms on those devices).
I'd really appreciate if you could help me out here, sorry for the long post.
Thanks in advance!
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get other phone, nokia 6.1 plus is not worth for 2022.
fyi, now my phone constantly reboot and looks like my battery had a problem and to replace it i would had to wait 1 month or more.
after searching online, this problem is common in nokia after 3-4 years usage.
so if u had the money, get other phone like redmi note 10 pro or other.
i can get this nokia 6.1 plus used for around $50, while a brand new redmi note 10 costs $250.
Coming from a phone with a snapdragon 410 and terribly slow ram and emmc, this nokia will surely be 4-5x faster in terms of computing power. That's more than enough for me.
Either way, I won't actually be buying it as the listing I saw when I made this post was sold, and the other options aren't in such great condition for around $60.
fake2die said:
get other phone, nokia 6.1 plus is not worth for 2022.
fyi, now my phone constantly reboot and looks like my battery had a problem and to replace it i would had to wait 1 month or more.
after searching online, this problem is common in nokia after 3-4 years usage.
so if u had the money, get other phone like redmi note 10 pro or other.
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About battery life - it's not true as for me. Nokia has good charge controllers and batteries themselves. It all depends largely on the mode of using. Specifically, my nokia 6.1+ has a battery capacity level of 84% from the date of purchase, which is more than three and a half years. In addition I don't observe any random reboots. This is my experience though...
fake2die said:
yes it's working perfectly, already tried it on my 6.1 plus ID region.
got the otp code after 3-4 days trying and checking the website constantly.
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Hey, will you help me unlock too? I want to understand if i can follow the process on a macbook since i don’t have a windows pc
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