I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
Please note:
Anyone commenting on this thread, I appreciate your intentions, but please DO NOT suggest ANY OTHER APP. I am purely focused on the S Note and Memo apps.
Well there is a way to disable the buttons on many roms already. Are you talking about a way to do it while unrooted? And are you trying to keep the touchwiz interface and use the smemo app??
No, You can turn the light off, but the button sup works. I think he wants to disable then completely.
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No, You can turn the light off, but the button sup works. I think he wants to disable then completely.
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Yes, I was wondering if the buttons can be disabled completely while taking notes, regardless of the ROM. Taking notes while the palm is lifted off the screen is just not natural and am not sure how Samsung saw people writing like that.
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incisivekeith said:
I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
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There are few apps in the market that have palm reject feature. This will disable the capacitive buttons.
Even the standard s memo should have this feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24989757&postcount=4537
here is a script to disable the capitative buttons, it works perfectly on stunners rom ( haven't tried on any others ) and with the euphoria control you can disable the lights so those buttons are gone forever
I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.
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I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.
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Setting the screen to respond to just the pen helps a lot actually, but as you slide down while writing, the palm becomes less of a palm surface and touches the back button and the note gets saved. So it would greatly help of someone can disable the capacitive buttons altogether until some action is taken to wake them up.
The script suggested in the post above seems like an option but a simpler solution would be great.
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incisivekeith said:
I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
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+111
It will be nice if someone can help to disable this annoying button.
There's no way to detect the palm everywhere - it would require quite a few painful changes in AOSP.
There is obviously a way to disable capacitive buttons totally, but you'd need to reboot to toggle.
As I said before since the later releases of GB rom , when using s memo , there is an auto detect feature which rejects palm and also disables the capacitive buttons.
Try pressing the capacitive button with the s pen close to the screen.
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aalupatti said:
As I said before since the later releases of GB rom , when using s memo , there is an auto detect feature which rejects palm and also disables the capacitive buttons.
Try pressing the capacitive button with the s pen close to the screen.
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I confirm. I'm on official ics and the capacitive buttons are disabled when the pen is too close to the screen (and it's anywhere not only in smemo)
Now, I got the trick. Usually I put my palm before the pen reaches the screen.
User should put the pen then they can put his palm wherever he wants, nothing will happen both buttons are disabled.
TEST in ICS official LPY.
Thanks a lot.
Damn ... This was what i trying to say from the begining...
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I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.
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Thanks buddy. Now I can take notes with my palm resting.
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iT iS Me said:
Now, I got the trick. Usually I put my palm before the pen reaches the screen.
User should put the pen then they can put his palm wherever he wants, nothing will happen both buttons are disabled.
TEST in ICS official LPY.
Thanks a lot.
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I understand what you and alupatti are saying but when I am writing on the screen, the palm will slide down and it's not always you can focus on placing your pen first on the screen.
Thanks xplodwild for your input, too, as a developer. It just seems like a case of poor design which we are stuck with, unfortunately, until there is a real solution.
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incisivekeith said:
I understand what you and alupatti are saying but when I am writing on the screen, the palm will slide down and it's not always you can focus on placing your pen first on the screen.
Thanks xplodwild for your input, too, as a developer. It just seems like a case of poor design which we are stuck with, unfortunately, until there is a real solution.
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The pen need not be on the screen. It activates when the pen is a few mm away from the screen
It might look silly but consider taking notes with your phone upside down. That way the evil capacitive buttons won't get in the way
Disable buttons
Check my sig....flashable zip to disable and re-enable the back and menu button.
Doesn't affect the lights, just the functionality of the buttons.
@tremeron. Do you think your disable buttons flash zip can be adapted like a on/off switch on toggle bar or somehing like that?
The more detailed user manual, which can be found here:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...UM_EU_Jellybean_Eng_Rev.1.0_130910_Screen.pdf
Quoting from page 36 (advanced S-Pen instructions):
"Opening available options: Some items have contextual menus that make the S Pen pointer glow. Press the S Pen button
to display the menu while hovering the S Pen over the item."
1. Can anyone come up with a specific example/application/action/situation where this happens?
2. From what I have learned, and that is very little, the S-Pen can "GLOW" and it also has a button - but I have never heard anything about any battery in the S-Pen. Can someone shed light on the technology in the S-Pen? Does pressing the button create some sort of miniscule piezoelectric charge to operate or something? Or if it has no battery, then how would the pen button do anything? Of does it have a battery that lasts many years so they never bother mentioning the fact that it has a battery?
I am VERY interested and curious to see what the answers to these questions would be...
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The more detailed user manual, which can be found here:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...UM_EU_Jellybean_Eng_Rev.1.0_130910_Screen.pdf
Quoting from page 36 (advanced S-Pen instructions):
"Opening available options: Some items have contextual menus that make the S Pen pointer glow. Press the S Pen button
to display the menu while hovering the S Pen over the item."
1. Can anyone come up with a specific example/application/action/situation where this happens?
2. From what I have learned, and that is very little, the S-Pen can "GLOW" and it also has a button - but I have never heard anything about any battery in the S-Pen. Can someone shed light on the technology in the S-Pen? Does pressing the button create some sort of miniscule piezoelectric charge to operate or something? Or if it has no battery, then how would the pen button do anything? Of does it have a battery that lasts many years so they never bother mentioning the fact that it has a battery?
I am VERY interested and curious to see what the answers to these questions would be...
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Lol you wrote the answer yourself..
The S Pen POINTER glows. The little marker on screen that shows where you are hovering. This glows in certain situations. Try gallery app...
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While writing fast with the snote . It lags behind my hand movement and i can see the strokes i make catch up in a jerky way . Usimg other such writing apps is not a problem though . They are all smooth with my note 10.1 2014 edition . Is there a way out of this probldm ?? My model is sm p601 with version mj9 . . I really want my note 10.1 2014 edition to be perfect . Someone help me out . I am a tech noob
Same here. I also look for a solution to use snote smooth as it is with lecture note
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Box around notes
My problem with Snote is that when I click to start writing with the spen a blue box appears and all writing is done in that box. When it goes to the next line the blue box expands to include that line.
How can I get rid of the blue box.
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My problem with Snote is that when I click to start writing with the spen a blue box appears and all writing is done in that box. When it goes to the next line the blue box expands to include that line.
How can I get rid of the blue box.
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I would like to ask some questions, if that's okay with you? It's mostly so I know exactly how things appear on your end and to make it easier to answer your questions.
First, are you clicking the button as you are writing in SNote? Have you tried writing in SNote without clicking the button?
Does the blue box appear at the bottom or in the middle of the screen?
If it's possible, grab a screen shot and attach it.
Which firmware are you on. ?? I am using my script notes and it's super fast.. Best ever.. .. Any idea on when our devices ll get kitkat??
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Keradon said:
I would like to ask some questions, if that's okay with you? It's mostly so I know exactly how things appear on your end and to make it easier to answer your questions.
First, are you clicking the button as you are writing in SNote? Have you tried writing in SNote without clicking the button?
Does the blue box appear at the bottom or in the middle of the screen?
If it's possible, grab a screen shot and attach it.
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Attached is a view of what I mean. I have the P605. I dont click the stylus button. But you can see the blue box around my typing if I put in another line the blue box expands. I wrote a lecture for half an hour and when I went to review it I could only see part of it. there should have been 2 pages but could only see one.
The blue box appears as soon as I touch the screen with the SPen.
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Attached is a view of what I mean. I have the P605. I dont click the stylus button. But you can see the blue box around my typing if I put in another line the blue box expands. I wrote a lecture for half an hour and when I went to review it I could only see part of it. there should have been 2 pages but could only see one.
The blue box appears as soon as I touch the screen with the SPen.
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Thank you for that screenshot! It was a very helpful thing.
That bluebox is for the text input mode, and it will show up pretty much automatically when S-note is in edit mode. When not in edit mode, as shown on the first attached screenshot from my Note 3 (since they essentially share the same S-note other than Templates...), you should see no blue box.
You WILL however, see a blue triangle at the bottom right and possibly the upper right. Try tapping that with your pen or finger. The end result should be the same as the second screenshot, a pop up window. You should be able to scroll and find the rest of your lecture that way.
...but yeah, that mode will end up treating that box as one continuous, yet scrollable page. It should keep everything, though.
Hopefully that helps, but if I was way off base, lemme know.
Can you tell me a bit more about what your problem with s note actually is so that I can compare my problem with yours??
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Keradon said:
Thank you for that screenshot! It was a very helpful thing.
That bluebox is for the text input mode, and it will show up pretty much automatically when S-note is in edit mode. When not in edit mode, as shown on the first attached screenshot from my Note 3 (since they essentially share the same S-note other than Templates...), you should see no blue box.
You WILL however, see a blue triangle at the bottom right and possibly the upper right. Try tapping that with your pen or finger. The end result should be the same as the second screenshot, a pop up window. You should be able to scroll and find the rest of your lecture that way.
...but yeah, that mode will end up treating that box as one continuous, yet scrollable page. It should keep everything, though.
Hopefully that helps, but if I was way off base, lemme know.
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That was exactly my problem. I have found the you CANNOT write for half an hour taking notes and expect the snote to move to another page when the first one gets full. That was how the note 8 snote worked and that is the one I prefer. I don't want to have to keep creating text boxes just so I can have separate pages. IMO the new snote has gone back to the stone age. I don't use it any more, gone to lecture notes.
So I realized with the Note4 taking a screenshot with the Note 4 got a little more annoying.
On the Note3, I can pull out the S-Pen, hold the S-Pen button and press and hold on the screen to screenshot.
This no longer works on the Note4. You need go select from the s-pen functions and it will take the screenshot and make go through a few steps before saving.
I just tried it on my note 3 and it did a screen write, where it took a screen shot and went into a screen edit mode where I can write on the image. So its the same as pressing the button on the stylus and selecting "Screen write". Which is the same on both note 3 and note 4. The only thing that they seem to have taken out is being able to do a screen write by the method you mentioned. Which was redundant anyway. Also that function is now for multi-select like a mouse function. So if you hold the button in email, or gallery, then you can drag the stylus up or diagonally across the screen to select mulitple email or images at one time.
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I like it. Works great
NOTE 4
I understand you wanting to use the spen function but why not just swipe your hand across the screen to take a screenshot, a lot faster imo; just my 2¢...
Or disable option for editing when you take screen shot
My fingers are crossed that gmd or some of the other devs that had previously made tools relative to the spen will get cracking on the newest code. That way we can customize it to whatever we like best. I was thinking the same thing with the screenshot stuff.
Home+power does the trick, no pen required.
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where is it on the note 4 and whats it look like
thank you
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where is it on the note 4 and whats it look like
thank you
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Good Question! Bottom left touch button, next to home button just seems to give the option to end active apps but long pressing the home button will display active apps, (in my case Greenify, which I wouldn't want to end). So on Note 4 the Task manager has either Revamped, broken in my case or there's a hidden setting to display it to what we're familiar with.
If anyone can shed some light on this, Great!