Database Users

Fascinate Bugs and Annoyances [11/15/2010]

I'd like to compile a list in one thread. Hopefully Samsung + Verizon is reading.
- GPS
Takes longer than usual to acquire a GPS lock when GPS hasn't been used for a while.
- Rotate notification
Notification sound sometimes plays when the phone orientation changes. Typically happens after connecting to USB with debugging enabled.
- Pandora/Radio Time status bar text
Status bar text is in black instead of white; this is an app issue, but still annoying.
- Desk clock app
When docked, there should be an option for the display to automatically change from day time to night time view based on sunrise/sunset. The month is shown as text as well as 2 large digits; the date should be shown as large digits. The current date doesn't update as it should; in the morning, the highlighted date will be yesterday's date.
- Smart Alarm
The Smart Alarm will play a nice calm sound before your alarm. Good idea, but there's no way to snooze it. If you dismiss the Smart Alarm, the normal alarm will never sound. Normal alarm functions properly. Should have an option for 1 min. Smart Alarm.
- Stock Car Dock app
Only launches VZ Navigator (which no one would ever use). Google Maps should be an option (if installed). Must remove stock app and use a Market app to fix.
- Bing
Really?
- Browser bookmarks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795392
Don't pin bookmarks for us. There are ways to get rid of them and we shouldn't have to find those ways to do that. There are 2 Verizon bookmarks that you CAN NOT delete without a workaround.
- Messaging Notification
I like the puzzle piece notification. I would like it even more if it worked with Handcent (or other SMS apps).
- Battery charging
Why does the battery usage drop a few percent right after it's pulled off the charger after a full charge?
- Battery notification
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790908&page=5
Please don't notify that the battery is changed via popup. This is not an iPhone. Use the notification bar so it doesn't illuminate the phone at night while we're sleeping which then causes the battery to drain even more.
- Headphone jack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786793
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790645
Should be able to distinguish the type of headphone you're plugging in. You can't use the phone mic to talk on the phone when normal headphones (with no mic) are plugged in.
- Dock audio jacks
The home dock states the jack will be functional in 2.2. The car dock didn't have that sticker. Hopefully these work after the update.
- Edit magnification/improved copy + paste
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3190
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794020
Should be able to enter an edit mode to show a magnification window to help determine where your finger is when editing text. This will also improve the copy paste function. There is a feature request open by Android developers for this. Also, I believe HTC has implemented something like this - so should Samsung.
- Navigation volume
Even with Google Navigation volume at max, it is much lower than the other sounds playing through the phone.
- Lag
All Galaxy S models have a "lag" based on the file system Samsung decided to use. A Linux-native file system should be used instead.
- Browser GIF support
Browser does not support animated GIFs
- Dock audio support
Some charging docks state the audio outputs will be supported in 2.2.
- Softkey lights
Softkey lights should stay on while the screen is on (in some cases... or at least optional).
- Incoming call screen locks
Incoming calls lock the screen. Outgoing calls don't. The screen shouldn't lock during calls.
- Stock E-Mail app
Stock e-mail app can't open some attachments (notably PDFs).
- Stock calendar limitations
Overlapping appointments are not handled well; week view does not show detail it should (and is possible the most used view). Does not default to Google calendar.
- Music player auto pause
Music should automatically pause if headphones are unplugged. This feature may be in 2.2.
- Contact sorting
No option to sort contacts by Last Name, First Name
- T9 Dialer default
Love the fact they added a T9 dialer. Hate that it defaults to the first number in the contact's list of phone numbers. It should default to the default number of the contact and/or show all the contact's numbers or all the possibilities of the name/number search query. Is the T9 dialer search function using Bing? (cheap shot)
- Global search button
The global search button usually has options within the Settings menu which should give you the options to search applications, contacts, e-mail, etc. on the phone itself. This option is not present (another Bing limitation maybe?)
- Music player controls
After stopping the music player, the controls will sometimes re-appear unless the player task is killed using a task manager. This has been known to happen after receiving a phone call.
- Phone notification
When in a call, there are 2 phone icons in the notification bar. Maybe one is an Android default and the other is for the super cool phone control from the notification pull-down?
- Call quality
Could be improved
- Daily briefing app
Nice idea, but it's not configurable and has been known to slow down the phone when used as a widget.
- Bloatware
No one likes this stuff. Please give us the ability to uninstall these apps. And follow Google's approach and utilize the Market to update your own stock apps so we don't have to wait for a full system update for app fixes.
- Car dock application after removal from dock
Screen doesn't lock when removing from car dock; screen stays on and will sometimes re-launch the last application (Navigation mostly). The bad part is when you grab the phone to remove it from the dock, you typically press something on the screen or one of the soft keys.
- Text Messaging +1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797001
Texts fail to send when the contact number has +1 in the number field when using stock Messaging app. To fix, edit contacts via G-Mail and re-sync your contacts via your phone.
- Touch screen doesn't work on edges
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798244
When drawing on the screen, the pixels closest to the edge are not displayed.
- Screen burn in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805249
- Auto brightness
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821723
Doesn't work as well as it should. Too bright in the dark, not bright enough (100%) in direct sunlight.
- Signal strength
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782781
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821472
Appears to be lower compared to other phones.
- Wi-fi Notification
When wi-fi network notification is disabled, you still get a notification of wireless networks after disconnecting from a saved network.
- Market Application Update Notifications
Never notified of application updates until the Market app is re-launched.
- Market Downloads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815360
Sometimes apps don't download from the Market. I have this problem when wi-fi is enabled. I will verify wi-fi works (using the browser for example), Market downloads sit at "starting," disable wi-fi, Market apps immediately start to download.
- Calendar + Maps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9215536&postcount=49
Calendar doesn't link to map locations.
If you know of a bug not listed, post and I'll try to add to the list.

my fascinate acquires gps lock within seconds. not 30 seconds. not 45 seconds. no more than 15 seconds.
noises when you go from portrait to landscape and back? weird. mine doesn't do that.
bing as default is unacceptable. bing is simply a random website generator. does anyone really use it?

1. My gps is fine, I think it might be defective for most phones?
2. Download cVolume light and turn you system sound to 0 and you won't hear it anymore
3. Tell the pandora devs about that problem and they might fix it
4. I don't think any dock does that?
5. Why don't you just wake up when your alarm sounds
6. The phone doesn't come with google maps? I don't remember
7. it is easily fixed if you are rooted, or if you want to get launcher pro
8. it's not hard to delete bookmarks and all phones come with bookmarks that are already there
9. Handcent doesn't tie in with the lockscreen
10. how long have you been charging it? it might not be fully charged
11. it takes maybe half of a second for the screen to lock.

bomber889 said:
1. My gps is fine, I think it might be defective for most phones?
2. Download cVolume light and turn you system sound to 0 and you won't hear it anymore
3. Tell the pandora devs about that problem and they might fix it
4. I don't think any dock does that?
5. Why don't you just wake up when your alarm sounds
6. The phone doesn't come with google maps? I don't remember
7. it is easily fixed if you are rooted, or if you want to get launcher pro
8. it's not hard to delete bookmarks and all phones come with bookmarks that are already there
9. Handcent doesn't tie in with the lockscreen
10. how long have you been charging it? it might not be fully charged
11. it takes maybe half of a second for the screen to lock.
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I've been hesitating posting this, because I was afraid of a list of "you're holding it wrong" type of responses. No disrespect, I appreciate your comments and suggestions. I am aware of some of the applications available to work around some issues and other issues we shouldn't have to deal with by rooting the phone. I figured it would be nice if Verizon & Samsung had a list of bugs by a GOOD user community as well as others from this forum who may not be aware of all the issues currently present.
That being said...
1. My GPS works as well, but acquiring a lock isn't as fast as it should be.
2. I use the app Quick Settings. This sound isn't set to the system sounds - it's set to the notifications (same as text messages). Give it a try.
3. Thanks.
4. Still annoying.
5. Thanks I'll give that a try.
6. Google Maps is not installed by default, but the option to change should be there.
7. I like TouchWiz. Rooting should not be a solution.
8. There are 2 Verizon bookmarks which you can not delete without a workaround. They are possible to delete, but not like the others. Give it a try.
9. It would be a nice feature enhancement.
10. Long enough for it to be fully charged. There's a post on it if you search.
11. It's not as fast as it was before the update. To me, it's a bug.
Thanks for your comments, but I think we could all benefit more from contributions. Your #2 was close to a contribution as it's always helpful to learn about new apps - but your solution is incorrect.

Headphone jack needs to be fixed. Its definitely a software issue. The phone should be able to distinguish the type of headphones that are connected cuz other android phones does that.
This is more of android os flaw but I want to be able to select any texts aside from text boxes such as websites and received email just by multi-touch.and I want to be able to drag the cursor along the words I made a typo on rather than continuously attempting to land my fingers between the letters I want to edit.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

Phone call lock screen
I've been looking for someone with a similar issue to mine but couldn't find a solution.
If I make an outgoing call for a duration longer than the time my display is set to lock after being idle (1min), I can hang up straight after the call ends. In other words, the display does not lock during an outgoing call. However, when I receive an INCOMING call and speak for a few minutes (e.g. longer than the 1 min display lock timer) at the end of the call I have to unlock the display to get back to the dialer and then end the call.
I would prefer the screen to not be locked after a phone call. Any suggestions?

GPS is an issue as I was stuck in traffic and trying to find another way home and just gave up and relied on my instinct.
The battery has been great for me and it takes an hr or 2 depending on my usage for the battery to move once off the charger.
Everything else has been stated.
Does anyone know how to get into the menu where recovery etc is????? Up+menu+ power ain't working.

DeezNotes said:
I'd like to compile a list in one thread of anything you guys find.
- Battery drop after charging
Why does the battery usage drop a few percent right after it's pulled off the charger?
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I have noticed a pattern of charging to full and then draining while still plugged into power. Attached is a screenshot of Juice Plotter showing what happens while my phone is plugged in at night.

Computergeek737 said:
I have noticed a pattern of charging to full and then draining while still plugged into power. Attached is a screenshot of Juice Plotter showing what happens while my phone is plugged in at night.
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This is something someone else on the forum noticed and posted here. I noticed it when I'm looking for it, but it's not something you'd know about unless you were tracking your battery usage with a percentage (as some people have done by replacing the stock battery icon in the taskbar with the circle battery icon that shows the percentage). The issue is that immediately taking it off the charger after a full charge, the battery drops a few percentage... which is just weird.

inJustus said:
GPS is an issue as I was stuck in traffic and trying to find another way home and just gave up and relied on my instinct.
The battery has been great for me and it takes an hr or 2 depending on my usage for the battery to move once off the charger.
Everything else has been stated.
Does anyone know how to get into the menu where recovery etc is????? Up+menu+ power ain't working.
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I've read in the Developer forum that some people (including me so far) have had some success with un-checking VZW location services in the Location & Security menu. I've only had this option set for a day so far, but it seemed to work the one time I used GPS - tracking was instant.
To get to recovery, power down, then hold both volume buttons and power on. I'd suggest checking the Developer forum for more information related to recovery. The current Clockwork button scheme is wacky (once you get to that point - which I haven't).

pollsizer said:
I've been looking for someone with a similar issue to mine but couldn't find a solution.
If I make an outgoing call for a duration longer than the time my display is set to lock after being idle (1min), I can hang up straight after the call ends. In other words, the display does not lock during an outgoing call. However, when I receive an INCOMING call and speak for a few minutes (e.g. longer than the 1 min display lock timer) at the end of the call I have to unlock the display to get back to the dialer and then end the call.
I would prefer the screen to not be locked after a phone call. Any suggestions?
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You can try using Screebl? That keeps your screen on when it's at an angle, but I believe it has some in-call options as well. I've been trying to test this to confirm the bug, and I can only get the screen to lock if I navigate away from the in-call screen.
Screebl Lite:

i switched from a Nexus one to a Fascinate....
What i have noticed is that there is a wierd momentary freezing from time to time...
loading an app or switching screens, or trying to load app list, etc.... it will freeze up for a second or so before doing anything... and at times just freezes completely for about 5-10 seconds without me being able to touch anything or use the back buttons etc.... anyone else having this problem?

iifuzz said:
i switched from a Nexus one to a Fascinate....
What i have noticed is that there is a wierd momentary freezing from time to time...
loading an app or switching screens, or trying to load app list, etc.... it will freeze up for a second or so before doing anything... and at times just freezes completely for about 5-10 seconds without me being able to touch anything or use the back buttons etc.... anyone else having this problem?
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This sounds like the infamous "lag" that plagues all of the Galaxy S phones. Most people will root the phone and implement the lag fix to resolve this issue.
Most people ask for an explanation as to why this is. The short of it is Samsung decided to use a file system that couldn't handle multiple read/writes as good as a Linux native file system. Our phones have 2 GB of internal storage for Market apps (located in /data/app). The lag fix creates a 1 GB file formatted as EXT2 (Linux native) within the 2 GB partition. The result is that the phone runs like a bat out of hell, but you only get half as much storage for your apps. For some, 1 GB is enough for their apps. For some, they won't push the phone hard enough to notice the lag.
Pay attention to how Samsung treats the other Galaxy S models (particularly outside the US). It's likely that what they change on those phones will be what'll happen to our phones. If they don't fix it post 2.2, we'll have to keep an eye on the Development area for ROMs which fix this for us.

pollsizer said:
I've been looking for someone with a similar issue to mine but couldn't find a solution.
If I make an outgoing call for a duration longer than the time my display is set to lock after being idle (1min), I can hang up straight after the call ends. In other words, the display does not lock during an outgoing call. However, when I receive an INCOMING call and speak for a few minutes (e.g. longer than the 1 min display lock timer) at the end of the call I have to unlock the display to get back to the dialer and then end the call.
I would prefer the screen to not be locked after a phone call. Any suggestions?
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Yes, this is a very annoying bug; incoming calls do not keep the screen from locking, but outgoing calls do.
Along the same lines; if you use the Music Player at any point during normal use, and exit when you are done, the application exits like it should. But then if you place or receive a phone-call, the music app reappears in your notification bar for no reason.
Very annoying.

How about better copy and paste like the dx? I also can't seem to use the copy and paste inside the email or gmail app.
I would also like it if they could add bluetooth keyboard support and video out through the headphone jack like the galaxy s international version.
That's my wishlist, hope it might be able to come in an update, 2.2?
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The copy/paste feature request has been posted on the Android code website, which I doubt everyone knows about. We have to go there and mark each feature request with a star to get it to rank higher in the results list. Hopefully Google will do something about it. HTC and Motorola both implemented their own copy/paste bubble, but I agree that we need one for the Samsung (or for Android in general)!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3190&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars

Does anyone else also have a problem with the handset speaker?
When I'm on a call I get a very annoying reverb of my own voice,
and I can hear A LOT of my own wind noise or extraneous noise that's
being fed to my mic. This is really annoying... I bought a brand new fascinate
but not from verizon.... so I can't get a replacement T~T....

shl615 said:
Does anyone else also have a problem with the handset speaker?
When I'm on a call I get a very annoying reverb of my own voice,
and I can hear A LOT of my own wind noise or extraneous noise that's
being fed to my mic. This is really annoying... I bought a brand new fascinate
but not from verizon.... so I can't get a replacement T~T....
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I have this issue as well. Sounds like the speaker is clipping when the volume is higher than 1/2.

There is no simple way to copy paste contact information.
I also hate how android changes the ui when u use the keyboard in landscape mode.
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anks86 said:
I have this issue as well. Sounds like the speaker is clipping when the volume is higher than 1/2.
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I don't like the call quality at all and it might be a deal breaker. I hear myself like I'm talking through a kazoo. There is a microphone in the ear piece that seems way to sensitive. And you don't believe me open voice recorder and blow by the mic on the bottom an then blow in the ear piece. See. Is there some sort of canceling thing going on during calls with this over sensitive mic? Voice recording from 3 feet away with normal voice renders distortion. Recording a video in a room with people talking leaves audio garbled all to hell.
My omnia i910 sounded like a land line and I miss it. And I work outside and never had any complaints. But with the fascinate after 4 days I been asked. Are you skydiving? You in a hurricane? How windy is it by you? (just a mild breeze). Even walking generates wind noise that is audible on both ends. Will the update fix this? My 30 will be well over before the update. I might just take it back and leave money on credit until update and see if it was fixed. I absolutely love this device. But hate the phone. And the phone is a major part of what I need.
25 days left.
good day.

OK Google hotword issue

Hello everyone, hope you are enjoying your new nexuses. Mine has an issue tho. It does not recognize OK Google hotword until I say it directly into mic on the bottom. Video mic works perfectly well

Don't know what the resolution is, just wanted to chime in and say I have a similar issue. It seems to need very close dictation to activate. Also, Ok google stops working completely sometimes and the device needs to be restarted to get it working...

I also have this issue where I have to hold the phone close and it has to be on the home screen

CByrdie said:
I also have this issue where I have to hold the phone close and it has to be on the home screen
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you have to enable always listening in the google now settings.

Have same issue here when screen is off, have to yell or give multiple tries. I guess this is due to the doze that tries to save power.

Mama google just wants you to stop mumbling and enunciate your words! Oh and sit up straight dammit.

emiwonder said:
Hello everyone, hope you are enjoying your new nexuses. Mine has an issue tho. It does not recognize OK Google hotword until I say it directly into mic on the bottom. Video mic works perfectly well
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Are you using any launcher?
I know with Nova Launcher, I had to turn off Google's NOW ON TAP, for "OK Google" to work.
NOT is a work in progress & it was trying to search the Nova Launcher.

Working fine here and from arms length with screen off face flat down on a table/mousemat.

Screen Rotation Too Sensitive.... Anyone else?

I notice this while trying to put it on my desk or one hand typing texts, it seems the auto rotate sensitivity is too high. Does anyone else have this issue? Is there some way to "turn it down" so you can turn the phone more before it auto rotates? I know I can turn it off, but I use it in Chrome and YouTube and probably couple more apps.
Thanks!

InfiniteReality said:
I notice this while trying to put it on my desk or one hand typing texts, it seems the auto rotate sensitivity is too high. Does anyone else have this issue? Is there some way to "turn it down" so you can turn the phone more before it auto rotates? I know I can turn it off, but I use it in Chrome and YouTube and probably couple more apps.
Thanks!
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No issues here with it , guess you could set to landscape / portrait manually , few apps can do it in the play store

italia0101 said:
No issues here with it , guess you could set to landscape / portrait manually , few apps can do it in the play store
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I've considered manually doing it, guess just being lazy. It just wants to rotate way too soon for me, it may be my posture or something causing it. Not a bad idea, maybe I can find a widget to easy swap manually.

I've noticed it too. Although I'll take that over too much lag in it rotating when I want
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No doubt about that!! For me it's right on the cusp of no issues. May just need to hold the phone slightly different to correct it.

I saw Xposed was released for 6.0. Does anyone know of anything for it that would allow this sort of adjustment?

InfiniteReality said:
I notice this while trying to put it on my desk or one hand typing texts, it seems the auto rotate sensitivity is too high. Does anyone else have this issue? Is there some way to "turn it down" so you can turn the phone more before it auto rotates? I know I can turn it off, but I use it in Chrome and YouTube and probably couple more apps.
Thanks!
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I thought Android 6.0.1 will solve it... But it didn't
Is this a hardware issue? I think not. Sensors data look fine. So I do think it is a software issue. Hoping Google will sort this out

Reported the issue to google
Hi guys,
I reported the issue to google
Please help by voting it up:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=196975

Yeah, I think so, too. I turned off autorotation. I found I like the experience better.

I too find it too sensitive. I used Tasker to limit the rotating on all except a few apps on my last phone but I haven't done it on this phone. You just made me think of it. I can't say yet that it will work. Worth a try.

I do not want to manually set the rotation every time I want to watch a video or a picture I just taken. This is silly.
The auto rotation works great on iphones & on previous Nexus devices. The experience is important.
If only there was an app that can bias the tilt sensitivity like there are apps for brightness sensitivity

lior-k said:
Hi guys,
I reported the issue to google
Please help by voting it up:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=196975
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Thanks for this, I added a comment in it and voted as well. I turn the screen rotation off when needed (like for Chrome use). Always forget to turn it back on till it rotates without wanting it too.

here is a quick video I did to illustrate the issue:
https://youtu.be/fJdwmbuUoHY

InfiniteReality said:
I notice this while trying to put it on my desk or one hand typing texts, it seems the auto rotate sensitivity is too high. Does anyone else have this issue? Is there some way to "turn it down" so you can turn the phone more before it auto rotates? I know I can turn it off, but I use it in Chrome and YouTube and probably couple more apps.
Thanks!
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I'm gonna start a thread in Help/Q&A and post a reddit article I found that solved the issue for me. Using the device with one hand it would always rotate when I reached for the far corner and was bugging the hell out of me... The solution involves Tasker.

Always On when screen off and on battery power Ok Google Assistant

The big deal breaker for me is Always on ok Google assistant.
Will the galaxy s8 (plus) have the 'okay Google' assistant capability when screen is OFF and phone is NOT charging? Like the nexus /pixel phones? As in the low power always on listening capability?

goldsilver13 said:
The big deal breaker for me is Always on ok Google assistant.
Will the galaxy s8 (plus) have the 'okay Google' assistant capability when screen is OFF and phone is NOT charging? Like the nexus /pixel phones? As in the low power always on listening capability?
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I believe this is possible with a 3rd party launcher such as Nova Launcher, but I could be mistaken.

ladera said:
I believe this is possible with a 3rd party launcher such as Nova Launcher, but I could be mistaken.
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In pretty sure there's a little more to it than that, thanks though for the reply!

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goldsilver13 said:
The big deal breaker for me is Always on ok Google assistant.
Will the galaxy s8 (plus) have the 'okay Google' assistant capability when screen is OFF and phone is NOT charging? Like the nexus /pixel phones? As in the low power always on listening capability?
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That is a good question, I wonder that also... However maybe that is something Bixby will bridge the gap with (just speculating)

I feel like it would be possible through a third party app but it seems that nobody cares about that. There's this app called OpenMic+ that runs google now from the voice command, but stopped being supported and doesn't work with current versions of google now/assistant. I feel like someone could possibly make a tasker profile that triggered google assistant whenever the OpenMic+ popup appeared, but since I struggle a lot with tasker, I wasn't able to do it. This is a serious pain in the ass. I'd like to just ask google what time it is when I wake up, since my phone is far from reach and all, and that's a feature the iPhone 5 had back in 2012.

I have only seen "ok google" support for when the screen is off and not charging on nexus and pixel phones.
other phones at least need to be charging.
S8 seems to suck with the worst option that it can;t even do it with the screen off and charging, prob related to bixby.

electric0ant said:
I have only seen "ok google" support for when the screen is off and not charging on nexus and pixel phones.
other phones at least need to be charging.
S8 seems to suck with the worst option that it can;t even do it with the screen off and charging, prob related to bixby.
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My LG G6 works with "Ok Google" when the screen is off and no charger present. So it is definitely possible, at least with the Snapdragon variant (which contains the always listening co processor) of the S8. I believe it is something Samsung chooses to disable though for whatever reason.

nathdogg said:
My LG G6 works with "Ok Google" when the screen is off and no charger present. So it is definitely possible, at least with the Snapdragon variant (which contains the always listening co processor) of the S8. I believe it is something Samsung chooses to disable though for whatever reason.
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I didn't mean it wasn't possible but for some reason most manufacturers didn't bother with implementing that function. even oneplus hasn't bothered to do it. I'm guessing samsung is using this to try give preference to bixby.
I don't need it to work with the screen off and not charging. I am ha[[y for it to work as long as the screen is on. But what is frustrating, it works but then randomly stop until the device has been rebooted, i don't need to retrain my voice so it's not and issue with that. I' don't use power saving mode and I have disabled app power monitor so I am confused what else is causing the service to stop.

electric0ant said:
I'm guessing samsung is using this to try give preference to bixby.
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I suspect this may be the real reason, although it still doesn't explain why people are being forced to restart to resume normal functionality.
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ok
after doing some testing it looks like this issue isn't anything to do with bixby (i am using package disabler pro and bixby is disabled) or power saving. HUGE bug in the phone, it looks like once another app has used the microphone, whatsapp, phone, etc then "ok google" detection no longer works. i'm assuming once another app has used the microphone the service for "ok google" detection has stopped? or the service is no longer able to monitor the microphone anymore?
what i have done is rebooted the phone made sure "ok google" is working a few times to make sure. then used whatsapp to send a voice message, or call, or used the phone to make a call. then immediately try to use "ok google" again and it no longer works.
I am sure this is caused by another app using the microphone as the whole day today "ok google" worked fine right up until i made a call after work.
now i wonder if there will be a solution for this, it's going to be quite a big dealbreaker for me...

Ok Google from Screen off?

Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)

jplafor1 said:
Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)
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I never used stock OOS, only xXx and Pure Fusion, and "ok google" doesn't work on either while phone is locked (which, to my understanding, is not the same thing as "screen off")

I have been missing this ever since I got this phone and moved away from my Moto x Pure. It's really aggravating there is no way to get this to function correctly, or at all, with the screen off. I don't get it.

jplafor1 said:
Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)
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FYI: This was answered in a thread on Google Assistant.
1. "OK Google" will NOT work from the lock screen even when "Trusted voice" is enabled and the screen is off.
2. "OK Google" will unlock the lock screen when "Trusted voice" is enabled AND the screen is on.
3. "OK Google" will react if the screen is off but the lock screen is not on.
I hope that helps.
From what I read its speculated that with OOS it was chosen to save battery by turning off "listening" when the lock screen is on and the screen is off. Personally I think that OOS should be "listening" under those conditions if your also charging or at least have that option as a settings toggle.
I've personally had to hack a way around this issue by using a couple of apps (Caffeine, Screen Off (no lock)) to get into a #3 (above) condition when I'm attached to the charger so my OP5 can double as a Google Home and have my screen off most of the time without automatically locking.

3DSammy said:
FYI: This was answered in a thread on Google Assistant.
1. "OK Google" will NOT work from the lock screen even when "Trusted voice" is enabled and the screen is off.
2. "OK Google" will unlock the lock screen when "Trusted voice" is enabled AND the screen is on.
3. "OK Google" will react if the screen is off but the lock screen is not on.
I hope that helps.
From what I read its speculated that with OOS it was chosen to save battery by turning off "listening" when the lock screen is on and the screen is off. Personally I think that OOS should be "listening" under those conditions if your also charging or at least have that option as a settings toggle.
I've personally had to hack a way around this issue by using a couple of apps Caffeine, Screen Off (no lock)to get into a #3 (above) condition when I'm attached to the charger so my OP5 can double as a Google Home and have my screen off most of the time without automatically locking.
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I understand that this feature has been cut off as a measure to optimize battery life but
This thread is not on xda just to discuss what OEMs have restricted us to, right?
Besides there are many of us who would prefer this feature over an hour or two of battery life
I've also been doing some research
I've tried those apps that keep your display "Always on" after you press the power button, but that option wasn't very robust:
One extra press of the power button would turn off the app and thus the screen
Ok Google detection works well if the device was locked recently, not working at all after a few hours
Associated with an hour less of battery life
But the app made checking time and notifications a bit less tedious
Basically the AOD feature from recent Samsung devices
Let me know of any workarounds that involve least number of third party apps
BTW, I use trusted voice, and it works well, friends tried a lot to get through but never could , helps with the unlocking part of the above feature

TL;DR: It is very much possible!
I was were you guys were some weeks ago and also thought that it would be nice to have true hands-free capabilities, so I searched for an app that could do this. The main issue with the "OK Google"-detection, as @3DSammy already stated, is that the screen has to be on in order for it to work (and trusted voice has to be enabled, obviously). The best workaround for this is an app that keeps your screen turned on without draining the battery too much. For this purpose I downloaded an app called "Always On AMOLED - BETA" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomer.alwayson&hl=en), which enables an always-on display, as the name suggests. The app itself works really well with few bugs and doesn't drain the battery too much, although it is noticeable. It will automatically start once you lock your device and is customizable to your liking. While it is running, you can use "OK Google" at any time when it's outside your pocket (and the always-on display is on), just make sure to disable aggressive doze and enable auto-start for the app to prevent it from getting choked off by the OS. Root access may also help. When pressing the power button the app will close and open your lockscreen as you would expect, and the fingerprint sensor does also work straight from the a-o display, which can't be said for every app out there. The sensor is a bit slower though...
Hope I could help!

It's possible to set up for when locked in Settings > Security > Smart Lock, but I'm not sure if you can do it when it's OFF.

Chaphasilor said:
TL;DR: It is very much possible!
I was were you guys were some weeks ago and also thought that it would be nice to have true hands-free capabilities, so I searched for an app that could do this. The main issue with the "OK Google"-detection, as @3DSammy already stated, is that the screen has to be on in order for it to work (and trusted voice has to be enabled, obviously). The best workaround for this is an app that keeps your screen turned on without draining the battery too much. For this purpose I downloaded an app called "Always On AMOLED - BETA" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomer.alwayson&hl=en), which enables an always-on display, as the name suggests. The app itself works really well with few bugs and doesn't drain the battery too much, although it is noticeable. It will automatically start once you lock your device and is customizable to your liking. While it is running, you can use "OK Google" at any time when it's outside your pocket (and the always-on display is on), just make sure to disable aggressive doze and enable auto-start for the app to prevent it from getting choked off by the OS. Root access may also help. When pressing the power button the app will close and open your lockscreen as you would expect, and the fingerprint sensor does also work straight from the a-o display, which can't be said for every app out there. The sensor is a bit slower though...
Hope I could help!
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Thank you, but my fingerprint doesnt work until I turn on my screen

yuval328 said:
Thank you, but my fingerprint doesnt work until I turn on my screen
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maybe try contacting the dev of the app for that? It's been some time since I used this setup myself