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So I'm seeing a lot of posts talking about this Loki kernel. I haven't yet rooted or done anything else to my S4, but I'm looking to do so tonight. What do I need to know about this kernel and rooting the S4 in general before I start? I don't wanna mess anything up... Thanks!
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please use search next time, sir. this has been covered. thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Start here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292157
Read the entire thread.
Then go to each AT&T S4 subforums and read all of the Stickied (pinned) threads.
Make sure to read EVERYTHING.
If you do it right, you will not be doing anything to your phone for at least a few more days.
If you have any questions, it means you didn't take the time to read...but if you do, use the forums search function to find the answers that already exist.
If you do all of this, you will be fine and won't be a burden to others. Good luck.
This is a Q&A thread, questions should be welcomed, not a "burden." I'm simply asking for help, and if you didn't want to help, you didn't need to respond. I'm simply used to Samsung devices with unlocked bootloaders and am looking for some guidance. Thanks for your assistance.
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This is a Q&A thread, questions should be welcomed, not a "burden." I'm simply asking for help, and if you didn't want to help, you didn't need to respond. I'm simply used to Samsung devices with unlocked bootloaders and am looking for some guidance. Thanks for your assistance.
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If you are not willing to take the "help" you are offered, why bother. I showed you exactly where you need to look and what you need to do to learn about your device. That is EXACTLY what you asked about. No one said you are a burden. What I clearly said is if you are not willing to do what you need to do to learn about your device you could very well become one...just like anyone else not willing to learn.
Is this help not good enough for you?
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If you are not willing to take the "help" you are offered, why bother. I showed you exactly where you need to look and what you need to do to learn about your device. That is EXACTLY what you asked about. No one said you are a burden. What I clearly said is if you are not willing to do what you need to do to learn about your device you could very well become one...just like anyone else not willing to learn.
Is this help not good enough for you?
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No, it helped, I guess I shouldn't have said "if you're not willing to help. " I guess I just get frustrated because I'm not a developer and every time I come on here and try to ask a question I feel like I'm always being met with an annoyed response from devs. Sorry I took it out on you. My bad man.
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No, it helped, I guess I shouldn't have said "if you're not willing to help. " I guess I just get frustrated because I'm not a developer and every time I come on here and try to ask a question I feel like I'm always being met with an annoyed response from devs. Sorry I took it out on you. My bad man.
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No problem. I realize the information (threads) I gave you contain a lot of information that takes time to get through, but it really is the only way. I've seen it happen dozens of times (or more) when people get too excited about customizing their devices and end up in a mess. It happens to people that have been flashing ROMs a long time too. I promise, if you take a little time to read the threads I linked that you will have a lot better experience with your phone. It will also help if you end up having questions down the line. People are a lot more responsive if they can tell that you (or anyone) has taken the time to get on the right track...but just need a little information to help them to the next level. The "search" function helps a lot, but it sometimes it does lack.
I hope you have a great experience with your phone.
I previously had an htc vivid that I s-off'd and rom'd alot and before that I had a samsung infuse and I remember roming on the infuse to be pretty easy. So where do i start? I want to install cm10.1 nightly but I just got my phone today and I have no idea how to root or get cwm on it
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I previously had an htc vivid that I s-off'd and rom'd alot and before that I had a samsung infuse and I remember roming on the infuse to be pretty easy. So where do i start? I want to install cm10.1 nightly but I just got my phone today and I have no idea how to root or get cwm on it
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Start with these three threads, but don't limit yourself to them. You will find many useful links within those threads to help you as well. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
WTH, scott. you fast.
Good info as always
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WTH, scott. you fast.
Good info as always
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I bet 90% (or more) of all "Help me!" type posts can be resolved with those few threads. Maybe another 5% need to be directed to another thread or two, and only the last 5% or so actually require more information than what has already been posted. If people would follow the XDA rules, search, and read what is easily available, most of them wouldn't have problems in the first place...much less need to make posts about them time after time. This forum has evolved nicely and people have taken their time to put together guides, solve problems, and create helpful posts. It is a slap in the face of those people when others don't take the time to read the information they made available. I see it all of the time, people saying, "but this is Q&A, I should be allowed to ask questions yadayadayada...). For some reason, to them, Q&A means I don't need to search, read, or learn, I can just ask a question that has been asked 20 times already (usually still on the first page) and people must flock to me with easy answers on silver platters! Of course, that is assuming they even put the question in the Q&A forum to start with. For some reason, they think they are above the rules or they are so special the rules don't apply to them. Q&A (according to XDA) exists to help AFTER someone has already searched and read on their own...not as a substitute for doing so. And saying, "but I searched", when it is obvious that no searching or very little searching was done only makes them a liar as well.
At most, people should only need to be directed to this information (existing threads). If they choose to ignore this help or if they think they are too important to take the time needed to read and learn...too bad. Fortunately, most accept the help and take advantage of the information, others, well I guess they just need to sit around, all butt-hurt, with their bricks. :laugh:
And to those that get butt-hurt...No, I'm not a Mod and I'm not affiliated with XDA, I just follow the rules that I agreed to when I signed up...just like everyone else is supposed to. DO you?
...and this isn't necessarily directed at the OP, I just happened to say it in this thread.
This is not unique to XDA. People on all forums ask before trying to find the answer. It doesn't matter how much good info is posted, most users want to be spoon fed instead of trying to learn on their own.
Even with power of Google, we see people post " how do I ....." On forums first, when the same query on google will give instant answers.
I can't explain it, but we are all witness to it.
alphadog00 said:
This is not unique to XDA. People on all forums ask before trying to find the answer. It doesn't matter how much good info is posted, most users want to be spoon fed instead of trying to learn on their own.
Even with power of Google, we see people post " how do I ....." On forums first, when the same query on google will give instant answers.
I can't explain it, but we are all witness to it.
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Does not excuse it in the slightest. Anyways I'm happy for the OP choosing the S4 but this is getting quite repetitive and needs to stop :/
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+1 to all
A lot of members like Axman have invested many hours in writing great "noob" threads. Very well done and easy to understand. What I never get is why folks invest a lot of money in this phone, and others, and don't want to spend time educating themselves on how to root it and flash roms.
Thermalwolf said:
Does not excuse it in the slightest. Anyways I'm happy for the OP choosing the S4 but this is getting quite repetitive and needs to stop :/
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Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in awhile.
Agreed though, getting old. Same issue, different name.
TheAxman said:
Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in awhile.
Agreed though, getting old. Same issue, different name.
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Life, and AOKP has been keeping me quite content but yea long time no see, glad to see familiar faces
Decided I should drop by more to help with these QA threads hahaha
To the OP now, don't think we hate you or anything, it's just you put like NO EFFORT into researching. The QA forum is here to help issues beyond just getting started.
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I started those guides thinking that everyone would be talking about flashing roms, whats cool, whats not, and so on, made them so anyone new could even understand, I must have forgotten that people just want to get a phone and start rooting and such, without reading because his buddy said it was cool to root and flash roms, even told him, here go to this site and get roms, and flash them. Then the process starts, a continuous posts of I can't , and it won't questions.
What gets me, you know they are not searching, because the post right above theirs has their problem right in the thread title. Saw one of those yesterday somewhere.
Ka dumb a$s, duh!
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Btw .. OP, I am going to apologize for semi hi-jacking your thread. It was wrong. Sorry sir. Seriously.
I think by now the OP has read your Guide, plus others and is now running and enjoying a custom rom--
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I think by now the OP has read your Guide, plus others and is now running and enjoying a custom rom--
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This! Also I got very intimidated by all the people screaming at me. I did a bunch of research before I asked the question and was still confused hence the question I'm not an xda idiot but the s4 was already very big in modding when I joined whereas the infuse and vivid had just started to get cwm and root when I got them so I grew with the romers I apologize for looking so nooby since reading the first post I now have a auto Loki cwm and root access and am running the Google edition ROM thank you all for the suggestions and links
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Glad you got it--
Don't feel bad sometimes we need to vent--nothing personal
I came here in early May from the One S and close to 3.5 years of flashing HTC devices with the advantage of unlocked bootloaders thru fastboot. But, still felt like a noob here--still do--
Odin/Kies/Loki were all new. Esp loki. I have spent hundreds of hours reading probably a couple thousand posts. Still learning. It does take a lot of effort to figure this out for some of us--like me.
But, a good investment as one needs to not only know how but why--to not lose a pricey phone--
Welcome to the S4--Unbelievable Phone--:good:
Hi, I'm new here. I would like to just introduce myself so hi, I'm Troy.
Anyways, I have been romming/flashing/rooting for quite a while.
Coming from a Motorola Triumph, and now finally getting the Nexus 4.
Currently I am unlocked, rooted, and running the PAC rom.
Long story short, I feel like I haven't given anything back to the romming/flashing/rooting community,
and I figure you guys could always use another person. I'd like to get into buildings roms and such.
Where can I find tutorials on how to do pretty much everything that has to do with building roms?
Thanks ahead of time, have a good night!
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Hi, I'm new here. I would like to just introduce myself so hi, I'm Troy.
Anyways, I have been romming/flashing/rooting for quite a while.
Coming from a Motorola Triumph, and now finally getting the Nexus 4.
Currently I am unlocked, rooted, and running the PAC rom.
Long story short, I feel like I haven't given anything back to the romming/flashing/rooting community,
and I figure you guys could always use another person. I'd like to get into buildings roms and such.
Where can I find tutorials on how to do pretty much everything that has to do with building roms?
Thanks ahead of time, have a good night!
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Hello, and welcome!!
Xda university is your friend:
http://xda-university.com/
Awesome, thanks a lot.
Would it be possible to allow me to post in the development threads? That's where I spend most of my time and I don't want to spam just to get to 10 post. LOL
xrealtalk said:
Hi, I'm new here. I would like to just introduce myself so hi, I'm Troy.
Anyways, I have been romming/flashing/rooting for quite a while.
Coming from a Motorola Triumph, and now finally getting the Nexus 4.
Currently I am unlocked, rooted, and running the PAC rom.
Long story short, I feel like I haven't given anything back to the romming/flashing/rooting community,
and I figure you guys could always use another person. I'd like to get into buildings roms and such.
Where can I find tutorials on how to do pretty much everything that has to do with building roms?
Thanks ahead of time, have a good night!
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Welcome man!
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xrealtalk said:
Awesome, thanks a lot.
Would it be possible to allow me to post in the development threads? That's where I spend most of my time and I don't want to spam just to get to 10 post. LOL
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Welcome to XDA, Until you complete 10 posts you can not post in Development threads ....
Welcome dude! Im sure u will be able to complete 10 successful posts soon, but please don't answer silly things to get it faster! lol, just joking. Welcome to xda again, enjoy.
Hi,
I've just got this phone today and i'm actually quite impressed with it, my last Sammy was an S3, i've had HTC and Sony ever since, I go the gear fit with my phone too which works quite well too.
One thing i'd like to know, is there a way to root the device so that it can be unrooted and no one will tell, not even samsung, I don't care for a custom rom i'd just like to be able to use a few mods.
Plus will the gear fit still work with the device if it's rooted ???
Many thanks
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is there a way to root the device so that it can be unrooted and no one will tell, not even samsung
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Yes.
My question to you in turn would be why, after 3,597 posts, you don't try searching the forum first before posting a question? Or peruse a few threads at the top, either of which would have readily answered such a common query.
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Christ my first post and I'm shot down in flames.. to answer your question I was in work and extremely busy. I had no time and a lot on. Thought I'd come home to a welcome to the s5 forum. Obviously I was wrong. Thanks for answering..
If i could offer some advice, perhaps you could practice not saying things like that to people, q and a is for questions and answers, it isn't an excuse to act like a ****.
Close this thread please mod.
I literally give up on xda.
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dladz said:
Christ my first post
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3,597 posts = first post?
It's clear that you are looking to be spoon fed and firmly believe that your time is so much more valuable than ours.
Thank you for making your position clear.
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Wow you are pathetic, do me a favour and never answer any of my posts.
First of all ill explain a little deeper as regards to my question as you obviously didn't get my point.
Q1) is there a root method that is reversable without losing warranty or anyone knowing about it namely Samsung?
Secondly does rooting mess with the gear fit..
Thirdly, why do you have little man syndrome? Is it because you are a little man? No reason to take it out on me, I was polite and courteous to whomever answered me but your response is both rude and uncouth, not to mention presumptuous. I think you should quit while you are ahead, my question was bespoke, you need to but out and stop typing.. bottom line here is that you wouldn't be talking to me like this if I was speaking to you face to face. For that reason alone, I suggest you don't reply..
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dladz said:
Wow you are pathetic, do me a favour and never answer any of my posts.
First of all ill explain a little deeper as regards to my question as you obviously didn't get my point.
Q1) is there a root method that is reversable without losing warranty or anyone knowing about it namely Samsung?
Secondly does rooting mess with the gear fit..
Thirdly, why do you have little man syndrome? Is it because you are a little man? No reason to take it out on me, I was polite and courteous to whomever answered me but your response is both rude and uncouth, not to mention presumptuous. I think you should quit while you are ahead, my question was bespoke, you need to but out and stop typing.. bottom line here is that you wouldn't be talking to me like this if I was speaking to you face to face. For that reason alone, I suggest you don't reply..
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stop hating and flaming my friend , it might be misunderstanding.
and about the root thing, yes there is a way and its an app called towelroot , you can download it from the site towelroot.com/tr
and about the gear fit thing I dont know because I dont have one but I dont think that if you root your phone it will mess with it.
anyway if anything goes wrong you can always unroot with SuperSu app
hope that I helped
Galaxy_Guy said:
stop hating and flaming my friend , it might be misunderstanding.
and about the root thing, yes there is a way and its an app called towelroot , you can download it from the site towelroot.com/tr
and about the gear fit thing I dont know because I dont have one but I dont think that if you root your phone it will mess with it.
anyway if anything goes wrong you can always unroot with SuperSu app
hope that I helped
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Cheers m8, appreciate it. Sorry for going off on one..
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dladz said:
Cheers m8, appreciate it. Sorry for going off on one..
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no problem mate , never mind and you are welcome
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no problem mate , never mind and you are welcome
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Sometimes its not what someone says, but how it is said that may annoy some people
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Sometimes its not what someone says, but how it is said that may annoy some people
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That's very true, different cultures clashing sometimes causes issues like that whereas one won't see any problem with saying something in a particular way but it wasn't that, I've literally just got the device, didn't want a slanging match, just wanted a bit of advice, if someone knew then it'd be a lot less hassle to just say it rather than attempt to police the forum.
There's nearly 6 million users on XDA and that's registered users, even if a sixth of those people repeatedly ask questions by the time you've told each and every single one of them that they should search first, you'd more than likely have aged 20 years.
As for the original question, I ended up rooting using towel root, the gear fit still works as expected so all is well, many thanks for all the input, it's appreciated. And lol don't worry i'll be searching in the future, was just very rushed at the time and had a lot going on.
Cheers
Hello, still no method to root the note 4 verizon? I'm in version 5.1.1 Lollipop
Nope
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Why don't people read some before asking a question that has been asked 1000 times! Don't be so dam lazy!
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nice reply
how about instead of being a jerk just respond nicer. Maybe ... just MAYBE this person bought this pohone because of whatever reason and was too anxious to KNOW the answer many others already know without reading thousands or even hundreds of posts. I do not get why so many people have to respond like a dope. Have YOU ever asked a question you just wanted answered without doing some research?? WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!!!!
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Why don't people read some before asking a question that has been asked 1000 times! Don't be so dam lazy!
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how about instead of being a jerk just respond nicer. Maybe ... just MAYBE this person bought this pohone because of whatever reason and was too anxious to KNOW the answer many others already know without reading thousands or even hundreds of posts. I do not get why so many people have to respond like a dope. Have YOU ever asked a question you just wanted answered without doing some research?? WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!!!!
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Thanks, just that I wanted a response well any more, newly buy it and have always liked the root, so I wanted to know if there is root, I do not make changes rom or anything, just root, thanks for the brother response, very friendly your comment
Unstable temp root via Kingroot app, reboots randomly (usually within 5-10 minutes from my experience, but long enough to uninstall the bloatware from verizon). Thats about it for right now.
http://best-tech-reviews.com/root-n...e-4-verizon-usa-sm-n910v-android-5-1-1-11387/
what is this or did i miss a post?
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http://best-tech-reviews.com/root-n...e-4-verizon-usa-sm-n910v-android-5-1-1-11387/
what is this or did i miss a post?
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This looks like something I may have tried in the past, but I could be wrong. Judging by the date of the post, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work, otherwise there'd be whole lot of people here going bananas and passing out from the shear joy of finally having root. But, like I said, I could be wrong, and hopefully I am. If you decide to take the plunge, let us know and hopefully everyone here in Verizon Note 4 land will have a reason to finally celebrate.
OK I may try it...wish me luck
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Didn't work
I noticed your post in another thread, and it reminded me I did try this, or something similar, with no luck. It's something about CF Auto Root our phones don't like to play nice with. I think it's the locked boot loader.
that method only works on DE models.
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I sincerely want to know why did you copy/paste ur post on several threads and even created your own? You're just making clutter and need to do a little research before posting. Even I knew soon as I saw CF that it was not for us.
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I sincerely want to know why did you copy/paste ur post on several threads and even created your own? You're just making clutter and need to do a little research before posting. Even I knew soon as I saw CF that it was not for us.
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why do you "sincerely" want to know tht for...so i posted in 3 diff places ....whats the big deal. only three place. wow lots of room there. very annoying right, whats funny/annoying to me is ..people like you spend more time criticzing other poeples posts instead of trying to find solutions to our root problems
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why do you "sincerely" want to know tht for...so i posted in 3 diff places ....whats the big deal. only three place. wow lots of room there. very annoying right, whats funny/annoying to me is ..people like you spend more time criticzing other poeples posts instead of trying to find solutions to our root problems
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I think the annoying thing they're referring to is the fact that there's at least two or three threads here talking about root. Each one specifically states that root is not available in any form, except for temp which does not last past reboot. I haven't had my Note 4 as long as some others here have, but I can understand how annoying it can be to see multiple threads on the same subject, only to find a post asking about something that is easy to find an answer to. Just saying.
All 3 are on the same board, so here I am looking at new posts for that board and all I get is the exact same statement each time. I suppose if you posted one here and one in one of the developer boards I could see your point. It would make more sense if it were one here and one over at android forums and then another at some other forum.
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why do you "sincerely" want to know tht for...so i posted in 3 diff places ....whats the big deal. only three place. wow lots of room there. very annoying right, whats funny/annoying to me is ..people like you spend more time criticzing other poeples posts instead of trying to find solutions to our root problems
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As you can see the other members understand very well the annoyances you have brought. We aren't really attacking or being rude but its the fact that it doesn't take too long to do a little research to see what has been tried and what hasn't. Also as it's been said a lot of us are looking for new things and solutions. So posting the same question several times gives us false hope we are all looking for new info man that's all.