So i've been torn between this phone and note 3 , i was about to take the xperia side but got worried when i compared the development for both devices , it seems like the xperia z2 roms got bugs with the camera not working and other issues....what do you guys think ? is there a steady development for this phone and bug free roms (paranoidandroid,carbon,cm ,...)?or should i go for the note 3 ?
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So i've been torn between this phone and note 3 , i was about to take the xperia side but got worried when i compared the development for both devices , it seems like the xperia z2 roms got bugs with the camera not working and other issues....what do you guys think ? is there a steady development for this phone and bug free roms (paranoidandroid,carbon,cm ,...)?or should i go for the note 3 ?
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I'm very satisfied with Sony's stock rom. It has far less unnecessary bloatware compared to Samsungs Touchwiz so personally don't feel the need to use anything other than a rooted stock rom with Xposed modules, and lets not forget how great a device the Z2 is.
I've been a diehard Samsung fan for years. I've had galaxy S, S2, S3, S4, S5........ Note, note 2, note 3, note 10.1 and note 10.1 2014. This is my first Sony since the smart phone revolution and I can honestly say I'm really impressed. I've only had it about 3 weeks and have not rooted it or anything. The only thing I have done is debrand it. It's great for playing games. The camera is fantastic. But most of all, battery life compared to any Samsung phone I've had is absolutely amazing. I used to get 1 full day out of my note 3 and charged it every night (the most battery life I had left at the end of the day was 30% and that was with only light use). I charged my Z2 last night for the first time in 3 days. Battery usage one the 3 days consisted of a few hours of watching YouTube videos, a couple of hours of playing games ( RollerCoaster Tycoon & asphalt 8). Checking in/posting on Facebook throughout the 3 days, and about an hour of surfing the Internet. I only have two complaints about the Z2 and they are, tap to wake is hit and miss at best, and the flap to cover the charging port wouldn't stay closed but I fixed this by giving it a good clean with a baby wipe. I always have the same brands in my devices so now i'm changing from my note 10.1 to Z2 tablet.
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I've been a diehard Samsung fan for years. I've had galaxy S, S2, S3, S4, S5........ Note, note 2, note 3, note 10.1 and note 10.1 2014. This is my first Sony since the smart phone revolution and I can honestly say I'm really impressed. I've only had it about 3 weeks and have not rooted it or anything. The only thing I have done is debrand it. It's great for playing games. The camera is fantastic. But most of all, battery life compared to any Samsung phone I've had is absolutely amazing. I used to get 1 full day out of my note 3 and charged it every night (the most battery life I had left at the end of the day was 30% and that was with only light use). I charged my Z2 last night for the first time in 3 days. Battery usage one the 3 days consisted of a few hours of watching YouTube videos, a couple of hours of playing games ( RollerCoaster Tycoon & asphalt 8). Checking in/posting on Facebook throughout the 3 days, and about an hour of surfing the Internet. I only have two complaints about the Z2 and they are, tap to wake is hit and miss at best, and the flap to cover the charging port wouldn't stay closed but I fixed this by giving it a good clean with a baby wipe. I always have the same brands in my devices so now i'm changing from my note 10.1 to Z2 tablet.
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I have had a very similar story and experience. Samsung phones and tabs for years and now Z3 Tablet Compact and Z2. I am happy. Did not mod anything, but neither could I with Samsung Note 3 because of Knox...
Note 3 is a very good device, has a wider screen and a stylus, but this Xperia are way out faster and have a great battery ( let me say that for the same usage it goes on for the double of time...).
Camera here is less good for point & shot but generally better. Important is also water resistance and the possibility to use the phone with gloves and even a normal pencil (I find it useful when it is cold).
Samsung roms are full of functions that you won't find here (reading mode, block mode, car drive mode, apps for kids and so on), but everything is far from being quick and responsive.
In Xperia Z2 everything just happens when you click.
Moreover, ultra stamina mode is perfwct when you are with a mere 15% or 10% and can still call and text for one day.
In conclusion, two good phones. I am happy with my change from Note 3 to Z2.
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I have used S2, S3, S4 and always been a Samsung fan. But lately I grew tired of the bloatware they keep on adding, the near useless features and their plastic build. The only thing that preventing me from buying Sony Xperia was their awful screen from Z to Z1, its only a TFT LCD screen compared to AMOLED from Samsung. Then came Z2 with IPS LCD display and from that moment I bought one, and never ever been disappointed. The UI is faster, less clutter, less bloatware, the camera is awesome, as well as the audio quality. Premium finish, glass front and back and metal on the sides, Noise cancelling headphones (its a steal!) and waterproof as an extra!
Yes, although development is significantly slow in Sony team, but even by using stock rom, battery life is superb, giving me 2 days like a piece of cake. You dont need a removable battery anymore. Existenz rom is good enough for my Z2. Not that Note 3 is bad, its way better if you multitask a lot and a bigger screen.
Yeah the multiwindow feature on the note 3 is really tempting.... Is there such mod for the xperia?
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Yeah the multiwindow feature on the note 3 is really tempting.... Is there such mod for the xperia?
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The only devices on which I have really used multiwindows were Note 8 and Note 10. In my opinipn even a 5.7" is too small for a useful multiwindows use.
On Xperia you have useful miniapps. Torch, browser, inbox and some other (limited) apps that you can play in windows.
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If you asked me i will tell you to get lg g3 everything much better than z2 and note 3 the camera and screen the battery on z2 better than g3 but everything else better on g3
Whatever you do don't get the g3, it lags, overheats, has bad battery compared to z2, no stereo speakers, no waterproof, no premium feeling, screen is dim and it's not as vivid and it also has halo effect.. The list could go on forever
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Whatever you do don't get the g3, it lags, overheats, has bad battery compared to z2, no stereo speakers, no waterproof, no premium feeling, screen is dim and it's not as vivid and it also has halo effect.. The list could go on forever
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i concur, Z2 is alot better than the LG, grab a black z2 and combine it with a spigen crystal clear and youre good to go
Xperia Z2 is the best phone. I never had better. :good:
Get it when u are ready for it.
I have my Z2 for almost a year now.
Still seems like new really.
I recommend it.
Stock ROM still flies.
What do you guys think about the navigation buttons being on screen ? i have an impression that it will take away from the actual screen size specially that the navigation bar is not transparent
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What do you guys think about the navigation buttons being on screen ? i have an impression that it will take away from the actual screen size specially that the navigation bar is not transparent
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its actually better than hardware keys as the google now experience is better with software keys, also you have 5.2" real estate, even after navigation bar you get 5" which is same as most of the other phones on market. and navigation bar is transparent, just the keys are visible which hide in background depending on app or get reduced to three dots.
Oddly i find the onscreen keys fairly nice
I originaly thought they were enoying and a waste of space but it feels like hardare keys with the Z2, Exept they disapear in games, movies and youtube (apps simular )
Hello,
Is the call quality comparable with other smartphones? I just read about some issues with the voice quality in phone calls with some older firmwares. I didn't find some information about new software versions.
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Hello,
Is the call quality comparable with other smartphones? I just read about some issues with the voice quality in phone calls with some older firmwares. I didn't find some information about new software versions.
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I myself have never had an issue with call quality or anything for that matter and I've had the phone for about a month and half now....came from a note 3 and the only thing I miss is the ir blaster lol the note 3 was a glitch fest and touchwiz constantly crashed (common issue). Never have I felt the need to flash a Rom on the z2 which is a nice change
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are there certain models that can't be rooted ?
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no
all Xperia's can be rooted one way or another
typically i just unlock my bootloader and install recovery and then install root via recovery but most people prefer to keep their warranty within grasp
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Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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i have galaxy note 3 but if i time returns i will choose nexus 5
Please mention your reasons. It would help me a lot. Thanks
I'm using note 3 at the moment and my nexus 5 is on its way to me, will give more accurate impression once received.
Features I prefer nexus 5 over note 3
Design look and feel (massive improvement)
No TW bloatware (another massive factor)
Easier to carry around
More regular software updates kat 4.4
No lag freezing (hopefully)
Features I will miss coming from note 3
camera not impressed at all (will miss that the most)
4k video recording
Battery life
S-pen (just a little)
Multi screens (what a feature)
Large screen
Ext memory
Have you encountered any problems with the Note 3 ? Does it lag ? Do you have that effect on low brightness for dark borders ? How does TW bloatware affect you ?
Battery wise note has 50%more juice. Home button issues - do you mean the button moving around? It is not a problem, people are too much complaining about tiny tiny things they should never find unless they read about it.
Camera - i think nexus5 is way better than n3. Its not the pixels that matter, or software options. Nexus 5 camera is next level, focus is about 10 times faster.
Bloatware yes, samsung puts 700mb of bloatware that you dont receive on nexus. Not sure if anything of that is usable. But cyanogenmod should arrive soon!
I wish note3 had the new camera and with optical stabilization, then it would be perfect!
As for 4.4 - its just a number. There will definitely arrive new android versions fast on the n3, just that you have to flash it yourself and void the warranty.
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I like Nexus because:
- The design of the device and the appearance of the UI is more appealing to me. I like to keep things on my phone looking pretty "minimalistic" with few colors and lots and lots of black. I absolutely hate the Touchwiz cartoony look and I always change everything about it, the process starts immediately on first boot of the phone. Everything about Touchwiz looks awful - the icons, the menus, the choices in colors, those horrible big green quick settings toggles in the notification bar. Stock Android is much much better when it comes to looks. The Nexus 5 and its software looks like it's been designed by a design team made up of adults who actually make cohesive decisions together. Touchwiz looks to me like the school project of a pre-school class where everyone can add their favorite color and everyone gets to participate and add their touch to the design. Little Johnny wants a big blue, round icon there - OK let's put it right next to Jenny's rectangular pink icon there and add Lisa's green toggles! Fun for everybody.
I like Note 2/3 because:
- The battery is bigger. I've never been this satisfied with battery life.
- The screen is bigger. Honestly after using the Note 2, I cringe every time I use my iPhone 4 (I keep it as my spare phone) or my wife's Galaxy S III. The displays are so tiny, I don't think I could go back. Not even to a 5" display.
- I don't like the on screen nav buttons of stock Android. I want the physical menu, home and back buttons.
- The S-Pen. I'm not a heavy S-Pen user but it has really nice features on the Note 3. I use it much more with my Note 3 than I did with my Note 2.
- Memory card slot. Seriously. I could not live without one.
- Removable battery - not a big reason but nonetheless it is nice.
I hate the Note 2/3 because:
- I get to a point where I'm never satisfied with the ROM I use. New stuff is released on XDA and I feel this pressing need to try other ROMs. All the time. Sometimes it seems all I do with my phone is restoring backups. With the Nexus I think that I would be more easily able to just stick with one ROM.. Maybe even the stock ROM, just rooting it.
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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U may have to wait for few weeks to get the full hands on review about this. Nexus 5. The specs r good. But we don't know about battery life, camera performance, and heating issues. Note 3 is good in these areas.
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I am planning on using the Note 3 with stock firmware from Samsung... because of warranty issues of knox trigger. This would also help on trying to reproduce bugs that appear on TouchWiz platform easier. So, having stock on Note3 sucks performance wise ?
efjbdejong said:
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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Perhaps wait for nokia lumia 1520.
That's ideal for such mundane tasks. Lol
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alleshi said:
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
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Note 3 is far better then note 2 for sure but is it the best ow no. It's a beast but not the best.
If i didn't have the Note 3 already i would be pretty tempted to buy the Nexus 5. It's half the price, here, with great hardware, Kit Kat, Google updates, etc. But those touch buttons (why?) on the screen are a no no for me.
Thank you all for replies. After doing a lot of reading on the Buyers remorse thread I see that most of note3 users are happy. The only notable problems are: very weak audio output because of the small speaker, the pink effect around black edges on low brightness settings and the wobbly home button. Also I see that the battery isn't so great.
I am really thinking what to get, as I said, the difference would be around 150$ in price.
If I didn't have N3 already I would have the N5. I had N4 previously.
N3 has plus and minus points.
+ points
Battery Life - best I ever had
SD Card - installed 64GB,some users have install 128GB.
Big Screen - I like the screen some don't like AMOLED colors.
Fastest CPU & 3GB RAM
Multi Window & Pen Window
IrDA port - can control devices from my phone.
- points
Design - not very stylish
Build quality - my back cover already creaks only 1 month old. Others have experienced Home button and screen/multi touch issues
External Speakers - embarrassing from Samsung.
Samsung bloatware - unnecessary
Wireless Charging - not built in but @ extra cost
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Costum ROM
why wouldn't you just wait on xda to get pure 4.4 android and install that ROM on your note 3 ?
Hi,
the Google Nexus 5 is indeed a very good phone. Having switched from Nexus 4 to Galaxy Note 3 I can basically give you good explanations.
The Galaxy Note 3 has plenty more features than the Google Nexus 4 abd 5 which is great.
I would say the Note 3 wins everywhere against the Nexus unless you tell me you prefer smaller screen. In my case, the screen size was the reasob why I moved.
On the otherside, yes there are a lot of Samsung apps and that sucks to me. The Galaxy Note 3 can be rooted easily, so you can easy remove those bloatwares which make me feel more confortable that way.
On the other hand, I do prefer the PURE Androis that the Google Nexus has to the TouchWiz by Samsung because it uses way less resources.
The perfect phone for me would be a Note 3 with a AOSP Rom. (CyanogenMod or Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) because it would give the pure android feeling which means higher battery life, no bloatwares, faster updates.
Ok guys, some N5 reviews have appeared and to be honest, things don't look that good in battery and camera departments. Actually that was kinda expected considering the 2300 mAh battery and 1080p screen.
Now back to note 3, all the small things that bothered me (wobbly home button, pinkish black borders, bloatware) are not important anymore. The things that worries me most is the screen burn in. I saw some reviews where this is mentioned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mbkoXCMhs&feature=em-uploademail from 19 minute). I have own so far a Galaxy S1 and a Galaxy Nexus both having amoled screens. On my GNex sometimes I can see the keyboard shadow after using it, but I haven't really noticed any permanent retention as it goes off after a few seconds. I just did a quick check with blue color all over the screen and I can see a very faint shadow of the top bar, but nothing really noticeable. BUT, I use the phone on auto brightness and considering that Note 3 has the most bright amoled display built, I am afraid that it will suffer from permanent burn in because of blue pixels. Could anyone tell me if they have burn in ? This is a major drawback for me and might be the point which may convince me to give up on note3 in favor of N5.
Thanks all for your help. I really appreciate it.
For me it's so simple. They don't even belong to the same category.
Do you need/like the S-Pen features (and do you actually use them)? Do you need the bigger screen and the amazing Full HD @60fps video (let alone the 4K)?
If not then the Nexus 5 is a no brainer at this price point. Plain and simple.
Apps and bloatware are of no importance to me. I always remove them to my preference, to me flashing ROMs is an integral part of a smartphone like Note 3.
I agree with you, but if the screen has issues than all the other features are pointless, considering that the screen is the thing we see most.
It would be really great if owners could do some screen tests and return with the result.
Hi buddies, I am searching for a good, big, and fluid phone to use and I was looking for the Note 3 (Snapdragon version).
I choose Note 3 between the Xperia Z Ultra and Note 3, because it has removable battery. :victory: But I have some questions:
Can you tell me all the bugs (hardware/software) you found on this phone? Bugs like heating, touchscreen problems.
Can you tell me your user experience with it?
Anyone has tried the PPSSPP emulator on Note 3? I want to know it`s performance (I imagine that is very high and fast :highfive
Do you consider the 5.7 inch screen enough, big, or perfect? I like big screen phones, when I saw the Xperia Z Ultra I was impressioned, but unfortunately I didn`t see the Note 3 yet My use is to games, Internet navigation, videos, music.
Anyone has tried a extended battery? Tell me your experience with it. :fingers-crossed:
How is the USB OTG funcionality? I guess it is so good :victory:
And the last one: How is the phisical resistance on this phone (fall resistance, scratch)?
Do you recommend the Note 3? I am a totally newbie in Samsung world.
Thanks in advance, good night.
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Hi buddies, I am searching for a good, big, and fluid phone to use and I was looking for the Note 3 (Snapdragon version).
I choose Note 3 between the Xperia Z Ultra and Note 3, because it has removable battery. :victory: But I have some questions:
Can you tell me all the bugs (hardware/software) you found on this phone? Bugs like heating, touchscreen problems.
Can you tell me your user experience with it?
Anyone has tried the PPSSPP emulator on Note 3? I want to know it`s performance (I imagine that is very high and fast :highfive
Do you consider the 5.7 inch screen enough, big, or perfect? I like big screen phones, when I saw the Xperia Z Ultra I was impressioned, but unfortunately I didn`t see the Note 3 yet My use is to games, Internet navigation, videos, music.
Anyone has tried a extended battery? Tell me your experience with it. :fingers-crossed:
How is the USB OTG funcionality? I guess it is so good :victory:
And the last one: How is the phisical resistance on this phone (fall resistance, scratch)?
Do you recommend the Note 3? I am a totally newbie in Samsung world.
Thanks in advance, good night.
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Bugs - Have a read through all the Note 3 threads, theres some bugs, but there's always bugs!
My user experience with it so far is mixed, had a few headaches at teh start with crashing software but it seems OK now.
Haven't teied PPSSPP on it yet, on my to-do list tho!
5.7 inch screen is ideal, as is the size of the phone itself.
No real need for extended battery as you can pull upto 30 hours + out of it on moderate to heavy use.
USB OTG works
Physically it'll break if you drop it from a decent height, all phones will. It feels sturdy... Only feels! whether it proves sturdy is a different matter.
Yes, I would recommend it.
radicalisto said:
Bugs - Have a read through all the Note 3 threads, theres some bugs, but there's always bugs!
My user experience with it so far is mixed, had a few headaches at teh start with crashing software but it seems OK now.
Haven't teied PPSSPP on it yet, on my to-do list tho!
5.7 inch screen is ideal, as is the size of the phone itself.
No real need for extended battery as you can pull upto 30 hours + out of it on moderate to heavy use.
USB OTG works
Physically it'll break if you drop it from a decent height, all phones will. It feels sturdy... Only feels! whether it proves sturdy is a different matter.
Yes, I would recommend it.
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Thanks for your fast response bro Have a nice day
Don Luciano said:
Hi buddies, I am searching for a good, big, and fluid phone to use and I was looking for the Note 3 (Snapdragon version).
I choose Note 3 between the Xperia Z Ultra and Note 3, because it has removable battery. :victory: But I have some questions:
Can you tell me all the bugs (hardware/software) you found on this phone? Bugs like heating, touchscreen problems.
Can you tell me your user experience with it?
Anyone has tried the PPSSPP emulator on Note 3? I want to know it`s performance (I imagine that is very high and fast :highfive
Do you consider the 5.7 inch screen enough, big, or perfect? I like big screen phones, when I saw the Xperia Z Ultra I was impressioned, but unfortunately I didn`t see the Note 3 yet My use is to games, Internet navigation, videos, music.
Anyone has tried a extended battery? Tell me your experience with it. :fingers-crossed:
How is the USB OTG funcionality? I guess it is so good :victory:
And the last one: How is the phisical resistance on this phone (fall resistance, scratch)?
Do you recommend the Note 3? I am a totally newbie in Samsung world.
Thanks in advance, good night.
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I have been using this for a month nice phone, screen looks good.
Bugs: for some reason the lick screen has been freezing at times and some times my home screen freezes.
Fix: I haven't rooted my phone yet, the only thing that's been helping me is removing the battery every other day.
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Couldn't be more happier. The fastest and the best smartphone in the world as of Nov 2013.
Hey guys. Tomorrow I am going to buy a new phone and I am deciding between S5 and Note 3. I was going to buy the Note 3 when I just notice that In my countru the price of the Note 3 and S5 is absolutely Identical (32GB Note 3 and 16GB S5). So is the screen on the S5 really better or there isn't a big difference and how is the battery life on the both devices ? Is the Camera on the S5 better in low light or its the same as the note 3 ? Is the Speaker in the S5 better ?
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Hey guys. Tomorrow I am going to buy a new phone and I am deciding between S5 and Note 3. I was going to buy the Note 3 when I just notice that In my countru the price of the Note 3 and S5 is absolutely Identical (32GB Note 3 and 16GB S5). So is the screen on the S5 really better or there isn't a big difference and how is the battery life on the both devices ? Is the Camera on the S5 better in low light or its the same as the note 3 ? Is the Speaker in the S5 better ?
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From seeing both at my cellphone carrier's store:
- Note 3 has better speakers, must be because IP67 in S5.
- Screen is better, smaller looks sharper and definitely brighter.
- Can't tell about battery life, haven't had a Note 3 for much time. Reviewers put them in nearly equal terms with slight advantage to the S5 (AnandTech).
- Camera is good, but low light is a weakness... so they most likely are in the same ground. None has OIS.
- Both seem to have poor memory management, Note 3 has 3 GB of RAM though but S5 has newer, faster chipset.
I picked the S5 because of the more recent stock software (Touchwiz in S5 is quite better than the previous iteration IMHO) and the form factor, try them both if possible. The decision is more if you want a phablet or a normal factor.
For latest and 2014 software features and latest hardware go for s5. If u need pen phone and big screen then note 3, but I think note 3 is getting old as it is late 2013 phone. Note 4 is coming with more than s5 soon on September.
So you can wait for it too..
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For latest and 2014 software features and latest hardware go for s5. If u need pen phone and big screen then note 3, but I think note 3 is getting old as it is late 2013 phone. Note 4 is coming with more than s5 soon on September.
So you can wait for it too..
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I was going to buy the S5 yesterday but I saw its back and it looks just awful and the phone feels like a cheap Chinese copy of a real samsung phone. The note 3 feels a bit better (the plastic actually feels like leather) and I like its looks a lot better. But then comes the Software and Hardware that is a lot better on the S5. I am really confused right now
I own both. Personally I much, much prefer the Note 3.
First some advice.
If you've got a few months left to wait, wait to see what the Note 4 is going to be. 1st week of September is when it'll be announced, should start selling early october. Also, the S5 Prime with top-specs is expected somewhere in the middle of the year. Wait for that, if you can. The current S5 is a joke.
So...
The camera on the S5 is a little better, it's IP67 and the colours on the screen are prettier. But that's about it.
The Note has a bigger screen. Yes, the S5 had a more saturated screen, but in my opinion bigger is more useful. Particularly for entertainment or multitasking.
The additional 16GB of internal storage is very, very relevant. 4.4.2 breaks moving apps to the SDcard, so you'll need it (unless you root, which breaks KNOX)
More RAM. 2GB vs 3GB. I know there are some who say "You don't need 2GB(It's actually less than that)". You do. The S5 has some horrendous lag, and the memory runs full very, very quickly.
The S5 has a slightly faster CPU (2.3Ghz vs 2.5Ghz), but the RAM is such a bottleneck that you barely notice the increase in speed. I can't for the life of me figure out why they would use only 2GB.
The Spen. Even if you're not a pen user, it comes with some nifty tools. Particularly the Pen Window is very useful, as it enables you to answer messages without switching away from your film or game. The pen also enables you to use your phone when eating, because you don't have to worry about greasy fingers on the screen.
The camera on the Note 3 is rather crap in low light. And I'm putting that nicely. It looks like an oil painting. The S5 has a slightly bigger sensor, making it a little better in low light.
And then there's the design. I can't help it, the S5 looks to me like something you buy as a toy for your 5 year old niece. It just looks so cheap. (particularly the White one..) At least the Note 3 looks like it costs 700 euro(releaseprice)...
Unless you're a fitness buff, I don't see the point of all those health gimmicks. There are functional heartrate apps that use the flashlight on the Note 3 and match the results of an actualy monitor besides it.
I do have to say the S5 is a little better at surviving drops and bumps. It can handle a bit more rough treatment. The Note 3 is fairly fragile by comparison. So if you lead an active lifestyle or are clumsy, and you don't want a case, an S5 might be a better idea.
All in all, I'd go with the Note 3 anyday. Bu tthat's my personal choice.
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I own both. Personally I much, much prefer the Note 3.
All in all, I'd go with the Note 3 anyday. Bu tthat's my personal choice.
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Thanks for the reply. I am going to see them both at my local store and choose then. Also the S5 is kind of hard to find in my country.
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Thanks for the reply. I am going to see them both at my local store and choose then. Also the S5 is kind of hard to find in my country.
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Yes I agree that s5 feels cheap. But I think in mobile business no one company is perfect. Every company have their bad side and their popularity side.
S5 / Samsung don't concentrate on design, but Samsung software is really smart and mostly people like it. Its rich in features like hell.
Like I said every company have down and good side. In mobile business that is the main thing..
HTC and make premium design but simple software. But difference is HTC mostly good in sound music and simplycity but Sony good for camera. So depends upon you. That is business.
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Yes I agree that s5 feels cheap. But I think in mobile business no one company is perfect. Every company have their bad side and their popularity side.
S5 / Samsung don't concentrate on design, but Samsung software is really smart and mostly people like it. Its rich in features like hell.
Like I said every company have down and good side. In mobile business that is the main thing..
HTC and make premium design but simple software. But difference is HTC mostly good in sound music and simplycity but Sony good for camera. So depends upon you. That is business.
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A good point, but a bit of a moot one, since the choice is between the Samsung Note 3 and the Samsung S5...
Wait for n4 XD
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The problem is that I cant wait. My HTC One broke and now I am using this - http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/30779-xlarge/Nokia-100-3.jpg And I need my phone... not just for games and facebook, but for school. It helps me out a lot. And also phones in my country come a bit late. You can barely find S5 and its been a month since its release.
Also i checked both of the phones in the local store and I am in a even bigger dilemma now I see how the S-pen can come useful, but I find the note 3 a bit big for everyday use. Also The S5 seems kind of slow.. I dont know why but it even seems slower than my HTC One. The camera need a lot of time to open photos after I took them and usually this drives me crazy...
The things most important to me are:
1. Performance
2. Battery
3. Camera
My one usually did the job with the battery and the performance but the camera wasn't what I expected. It takes great shots but 4MP isnt enough for zooming and I often need to zoom my photos to read some text or other...
niksssss said:
The problem is that I cant wait. My HTC One broke and now I am using this - http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/30779-xlarge/Nokia-100-3.jpg And I need my phone... not just for games and facebook, but for school. It helps me out a lot. And also phones in my country come a bit late. You can barely find S5 and its been a month since its release.
Also i checked both of the phones in the local store and I am in a even bigger dilemma now I see how the S-pen can come useful, but I find the note 3 a bit big for everyday use. Also The S5 seems kind of slow.. I dont know why but it even seems slower than my HTC One. The camera need a lot of time to open photos after I took them and usually this drives me crazy...
The things most important to me are:
1. Performance
2. Battery
3. Camera
My one usually did the job with the battery and the performance but the camera wasn't what I expected. It takes great shots but 4MP isnt enough for zooming and I often need to zoom my photos to read some text or other...
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Get n3 if you can't wait.
Also make sure you get snapdragon version of it, exynos sucks big time. I was looking forward to n3 but didn't buy because SD ain't available in my country.
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S5 easy for one hand use. Note 3 is too big
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For you to compare:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/galaxy-s5-vs-note-3
The 32GB of the Note3 is good. The S5 is easy to find in 16Gb but 32GB would be better but hard to find and more expensive. Go with Note3 or wait for N4. Also consider OnePlus one or Oppo Find if you can wait.
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Are You serious? Once time You will taste 5 inch + screen You will stay with it forever, if I had to choose s5 and note1 I will take note1.Spen is powerfull.. Actually I Got note2 and im not even thinking about s4/s5. Im thinking about note4,
You will use it at school, take note, even the name of phone is an answer, Im making my lessons on that phone,
sorry for my English im not the Best at it
And sometimes it works like magnet for girls..
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Get the note 3 if you dont mind a larger device. basically get the same phone, minus finger print sensor and heartrate monitor. Except you can get 32gb for the price of 16gb.
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Are You serious? Once time You will taste 5 inch + screen You will stay with it forever,
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but S5 is also a 5 inch + screen lol...
Just go for the latest.
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Hmmm... If you have issues with your own "size", go with the note 3, just as you did when you got the big screen and truck. Or if you're a "size queen" as they're called, go for a note 3. But if you like the finger print gimmick, I pretty much do, or like me sometimes find yourself on hallucinogenic escapades that take you at times in the rain, shower/bath or under waterfalls, the ip6 whatever the rest of it is, will come in handy. Man, everyone talking about the lag, I sure wish I didn't agree. There must be a solution. Off to another sub forum. I want to find the solution. Chime in if any of you know of a rom/trick that speeds this phone up.
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Guys. Thanks for the info but I already got the S5. I got it becouse it's a bit smaller device and the Note 3's camera in low light is alful. Also note 3 has 13MP but you can use the camera in 16:9 aspect ratio only on 10MP. On the S5 the 16MP are 16:9. I will miss the s-pen but thats the only thing that I will miss. I also got the s5 becouse I think that it will recieve faster updates. I find the S5 a bit slow (even slower than my one) and also not a big fan of touchwiz. (I didnt think that I will miss sense so much) But overall im happy with the S5 becouse the battery lasts more than twice than my old HTC one and the battery was the most important thing to me.
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Can anybody give me any last-minute advice before I sell my iPhone 6 Plus for a Galaxy Note 4?
I'm not looking for any iOS vs Android arguments, but after switching between iOS and Android, I seem to prefer Android much more.
However, I want an Android phone with a top-notch camera and it seems like the Note 4 has the best (?) camera available. I have two little kids and often don't take my camera with me, so I want a phone with a very good camera and excellent video capability as well. (I probably take slightly more videos than I do pictures)
I also want something at least 5" or larger. I'm mostly used to the "large" iPhone 6 Plus size, so I don't think the Note 4 will be a problem.
My top phones I'm deciding between are: Note 4, OnePlus One, LG G3, Sony Xperia Z3, Galaxy S5, Moto X.
Price isn't a concern because I'll be selling my iPhone 6 Plus to recoup the costs.
EDIT: I am a little concerned about the higher resolution on the Note 4 slowing down some light gaming, or having scaling issues with games, etc...
I actually just switched from a 6 Plus to a Note 4 in the past two weeks and I havent really regretted doing so. I have also owned the OPO, G3, and S5 and to my liking the Note 4 overpowers all. Note 4 takes wonderful pictures as you already with OIS as well as great videos. Since I have had the device I haven't snapped a lot of videos but I know there wouldn't be an issue in that category when it comes down to it.
As for slowing down when you are gaming, idk much about that since I do zero gaming on my device. You going from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 will be a breeze since the Note 4 is easier to hold in hands, despite people saying that the edges are sharp on the Note but that doesnt affect me since I run a case on my Note 4.
If you are taking lots of videos and pictures then having that external memory is a plus already. I am running an 128GB sd card in my device which I know is overkill but its there if I need it. I can also store a few 4k videos up there if I really wanted to. I don't think you will be dissapointed with the switch to the Note 4. Yeah it was a stretch coming from how smooth iOS is and then going back to bloaty Touchwiz but TW has been optimized a little more and with a few tweaks it can be very smooth, I say hit some comparison videos up on YouTube and then make the decision.
Thanks so much for the information!
I'm still doing research, and is it true that the AT&T version has it's bootloader unlocked, but the T-Mobile is unlocked?
I'd like to stay with AT&T, so would there be a problem purchasing the T-Mobile version and activating it on AT&T?
Unfortunately one of the applications I use (ARUnchained) requires root access so I do want an Android phone that can be rooted...
I am also on the edge of buying note 4. I am actually using z3 right now and the reason I would be switching is the camera. It is not so good as it looks on the paper and the only reason why I would be changing.
Everything else I like a lot and I actually don't like Samsung as a brand and almost hate touchwiz so the change is not easy..
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Yes! Just go for the note 4 mate that is a top notch android phone.. With a good built quality, camera are also good specially on outdoors but comparing in low light shot iphone camera is still on the top. Battery are great now with fast charging and ultrapower saving mode.. A lot of features and customization (cuz android) also the spen!
And those beautifully 2k display man you can never go wrong
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Thanks so much for the information!
I'm still doing research, and is it true that the AT&T version has it's bootloader unlocked, but the T-Mobile is unlocked?
I'd like to stay with AT&T, so would there be a problem purchasing the T-Mobile version and activating it on AT&T?
Unfortunately one of the applications I use (ARUnchained) requires root access so I do want an Android phone that can be rooted...
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Yeah the AT&T version right not cant be rooted but I have been following a few threads where people are working on it now but there is not ETA as to where the AT&T version will be rooted, I am also desperately needing root. I think there is also a thread where people are using AT&T service on a T-Mobile phone but there are some disadvantages I think, There should be a thread in the AT&T Note 4 section with all those concerns. But the T-Mobile version can be rooted. If you want a rooted phone and also great quality all around, I would say my next option would be the G3. Very easy to root and also has a great camera. I just couldn't get with LG interface over Android.
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I am also on the edge of buying note 4. I am actually using z3 right now and the reason I would be switching is the camera. It is not so good as it looks on the paper and the only reason why I would be changing.
Everything else I like a lot and I actually don't like Samsung as a brand and almost hate touchwiz so the change is not easy..
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Yeah Touchwiz is what it is at this point. I also hate it with a passion but like I said with a few tweaks and I run Nova Launcher, it can be very smooth and right now I have no complaints. I cant speak of the Sony Z series as that is one series I have not yet played with or owned yet.
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Yes! Just go for the note 4 mate that is a top notch android phone.. With a good built quality, camera are also good specially on outdoors but comparing in low light shot iphone camera is still on the top. Battery are great now with fast charging and ultrapower saving mode.. A lot of features and customization (cuz android) also the spen!
And those beautifully 2k display man you can never go wrong
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You are correct my friend, Even though in the beginning I was leery to switch away from the 6 Plus that was a great phone for me, The Note 4 just has too many features to pass up!
Gaming is good for me using my exynos variant
I switched to the Note 4 (Exynos) coming from an OPO. I wouldn't recommend the OPO since it has serious QA issues. My unit had this awful touchscreen issue which rendered the screen unusable when it got too hot. And it's a PITA to RMA it AFAIK.
I'm really liking the Note 4 a lot. Coming from stock or close to stock Android (I owned a Nexus 4 and 5 before the OPO), TouchWiz doesn't feel nearly as bloated as before. Everything is smooth and performance in games is top notch.
It feels great in the hand, the S Pen is quite handy, the screen is absolutely fantastic, the camera is great... My only complaint would be the rear facing speaker.
Samsung really won me over with the Note 4. Glad I picked this one up instead of the Nexus 6.
sofakng said:
Can anybody give me any last-minute advice before I sell my iPhone 6 Plus for a Galaxy Note 4?
I'm not looking for any iOS vs Android arguments, but after switching between iOS and Android, I seem to prefer Android much more.
However, I want an Android phone with a top-notch camera and it seems like the Note 4 has the best (?) camera available. I have two little kids and often don't take my camera with me, so I want a phone with a very good camera and excellent video capability as well. (I probably take slightly more videos than I do pictures)
I also want something at least 5" or larger. I'm mostly used to the "large" iPhone 6 Plus size, so I don't think the Note 4 will be a problem.
My top phones I'm deciding between are: Note 4, OnePlus One, LG G3, Sony Xperia Z3, Galaxy S5, Moto X.
Price isn't a concern because I'll be selling my iPhone 6 Plus to recoup the costs.
EDIT: I am a little concerned about the higher resolution on the Note 4 slowing down some light gaming, or having scaling issues with games, etc...
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Simply put it's just the best device on the market right now. Nothing comes close to it. Go for it, you won't regret it like you did the iPhone
after deciding that the note series is the best phablet, you still have to choose between
Exynos Note4, Snapdragon Note4 or Note Edge
after using exynos note4 for sometime, I am considering switching to note edge for the cool curved screen. The feeling of curved glass on thumb is amazing.
I would suggest a in store hands on with the Note Edge first, than go read the exynos vs snapdragon thread on the note 4 if you dont like the Edge.
good luck
I bought The note 4 after long times of researching and I absloutely love it. I own The 6 plus as Well but I like The Note 4 more. I like carrying both operating systems in my pocket. I use the Note for work and taking pics and use 6 plus For chatting and connecting with friends
If you want to use the Gear VR - only Snapdragon runs smooth because of the better GPU
Hi all,
I'm confused and very hesitant about upgrading , I have a note 4 and I love it but like I said I'm very hesitant and reluctant to upgrade because I don't want to be a slave to a charger.....this is the number one reasons I hate Iphones besides not being able to expand the memory you can't switch out the battery, and you become as I stated a slave to a charger. Also I want to know if you are rooted & running the latest software does it make a difference what device you have? I know a friend of mine who has an s6 and I know one who has a note 5&6 their constantly charging it because the battery is constantly dying. can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to a note 5 if I cant expand the memory?
Can anyone tell me weather I'm doing the right thing, Or can anyone tell me anything to rest aside my fears concerning upgrading. ......thanks
I think best upgrade from note 4 is now s7 edge.
S8 is not anymore samsung phone becaus there`s no HW buttons and screen look ... WTF? WTF? ... pain in eyes so no thanks.
Still note 4 is amazing device but I think only exynos version becaus on Snapdragon if u have screen time 3 hours u can be happy of Exynos 6 hours sot.
I have 910F with snapdragon and low SOT is reason why i want to upgrade. (OR i need replace mainboard for 910C)
I did not upgrade my Note4 until the Note7 came out. Then it go recalled so went back to the Note4. I can swap the battery around when I want and I have a 256gb microSD card installed. It's still a great phone I say keep it.
I have rooted my Note4 and have a Note7 rom installed. It works really well.
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There's really not a lot of good phones to upgrade to with as much features as the Note 4. Closest by far is the LG V20 and Huawei Mate 9.
I'm actually aiming for the BlackBerry KeyOne cuz how good the battery life will be, I'll wait for a full review though.
Im sad of 910F (snapdragon) battery life. I looking for 910C (Exynos) but in my country is quite imposible
Short Answer: The Note 4 won't be beaten by new phones. Only if you are willing to sacrifice 2 features. The pen, and the removable battery. But for the next 2 to 3 years, it will stand alone on the throne.
Swapped the battery in the beginning of the year, because it died down with some shutdowns after 2 years of usage. No Shutdown since then, I have low SOT but still got 3 days instead of 2 before (910F). Just imagine having a phone with a fixed battery, you would either have to live unhappy with it or buy a new phone. The display is absolutely fine, no AMOLED aging problems yet.
It got a fine camera, 4k video, QHD Display, fast processing power and UI, good battery life, and a pen. That's so far stuff the note 4 has, and isn't worse than recent phones in a considerable amount in any of the things it does.
I crave for an even bigger display (something like 6 - 6,4 inch with 16:9), dual sim (with the bands I need), small bezels, and durable design on the edges (no bent display). I mean man, i dropped the note 4 so many times. The metal frame got damaged like it should, and the display hasn't broken yet.
Future Galaxy Notes won't get bigger in my opinion (Samsung using 2:1 ratio, only good for movies), and even after the note 7 disaster, removable batteries are going to be even less common (like no flagship phones have them anymore).
My only hope are smaller asian companies. But even Xiaomi (who are not small in any way, but they show to have the guts and put money into development of innovative phones like the Mi Mix), won't introduce an integrated pen and removable battery design just like that. Who knows, maybe in 5 years it may be different. When phones are just a display at the front, and you have to be different because they all have become the same concerning the design (lg g6 = s8 design, or like all the sharp aquos and the mi mix).
By the way, I use the dr. Ketan rom. Main Reason: With UC Browser (you can use a custom background, like a black picture. Bugless black browsing experience), and the official samsung theme manager, I got a close to complete black UI.
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I think best upgrade from note 4 is now s7 edge.
S8 is not anymore samsung phone becaus there`s no HW buttons and screen look ... WTF? WTF? ... pain in eyes so no thanks.
Still note 4 is amazing device but I think only exynos version becaus on Snapdragon if u have screen time 3 hours u can be happy of Exynos 6 hours sot.
I have 910F with snapdragon and low SOT is reason why i want to upgrade. (OR i need replace mainboard for 910C)
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on s8 you can set the navigation bar to be static and black and you will get the same as hardware buttons with the plus of the force touch home button.
nobody used to the hardware button will get any difference in using them.
to understand what i'm saying just give a look at the antutu benchmark ... you will see the black bar.just imagine the black bar with buttons.no difference
you can adjust even the ratio to be 16/9 so...if you want you can get advantages from the infinity display otherwise not
Still its amoled. After half year of using u will have different collors on display on Button spot. But i dont understand why samsung use just only 4gb of ram on latest CPU ... Most of application eat around 700mb and 8gb will be nice to have on flagship.
I using my note 4 as navigation but s8 rly sux with screen ratio + edges for it.
I thinking about upgrade to oneplus 3t but night shots its imported for me alot + battery life where is samgung s7 edge for now best choice.
Even by current standards the Note 4 is still a very good device. Especially if you have the Exynos variant.
If the Note 4 had the S7 Edge Camera, fingerprint scanner and Ip68 resistance, it would be Samsung King.
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