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[Q] Need Help: Galaxy Note 3 better?

I am trying to decide which phone to buy, the Galaxy S5, or the Galaxy Note 3. So if you kindly give me some advice based on my argument I will much appreciate it.
Why I don't want to buy the S5 although it has:
1. Superior camera auto-focus and clearer images (as far as online reviews go)
2. Superior battery life by about 1 and a half hours phonearena.com (http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks)
3. Better portability, dust proof, and water proof (but I wouldn't take shower with it personally).
4. Superior processing power.
The reason is this:
1. Galaxy Note 3 has 32GB internal storage. How does this translateto me? Longer 4K video recording capability. And it also translates to better compatibility with KitKat as a I heard that there will be restrictions for Google Apps to store on SD card. So the external SD card is going to be useful to store movies and music, and that's all.
2. Larger screen & pen may mean that the internet browsing experience is going to be more enjoyable as the pen can act like a mouse when it hovers over non-mobile friendly websites.
3. The pixel density (resolution vs. screen size) is not much higher from the S5 but strangely the Note 3 screen seems to have a warmer display in comparison to S5 which is slightly more bluish. As I intend to buy the Note 3 to read books and web surfing it seems to be a better choice for that.
4. The galaxy Note 3 is around 70USD cheaper from where I buy it, so why do I need to pay money for less RAM and a heart sensor? The processor clock rate difference is it that worthy?
At the same time, why I am afraid to buy the Galaxy Note 3?
1. A friend of mine told me that the device freezes from time to time and he has to restart, this has happened after the KitKat update.
2. A user review was complaining that the battery drained faster after the latest update to KitKat on his Note 3.
Consider the huge delays of Samsung to fix updates on their devices, it is a concern to me whether I should get the Note 3 and wait for updates from Samsung, or buy the latest S5 which will probably receive faster updates (if indeed it's needed since it's already 4.4 KitKat).
I am usually not with the philosophy to buy old phones, but in this case, Samsung is trying to sell me a slightly superior device with less functionality, and the price vs value ratio is clearly going to the Note 3.
At the end of the day I am so confused, and I need your input!

Note 4 should be announced in September, I'd wait until then to decide.
If you can't wait, others can provide better insight.

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If you really want to put price to performance ratio just get the Note 3. They are basically the same device but the Note 3 has some cool S Pen features and minus a few newer features the S5 has like the ones you stated.

The Note devices are without a doubt the true Samsung flagships if you appreciate its size off course.

After selling my note 3 and getting this I can honestly say that if someone was to offer one to me today I would trade back in an instant
The camera on the S5 is better sure but the one in the Note 3 is probably only 2nd to the S5 and not by much
I had far better battery life then I do on this S5 (both SD models, stock rom)
Yeah but S5 still isn't a small phone either and .... meh
By 200mhz on cpu, only a benchmark will see that difference (SD models)
I wish they'd stop with 16GB models epecially when half is taken by os, skin and bloatware. yep that is an issue
Oh yes far better for viewing web content ... I never used pen but its there
Pixel density of over 350 and you're golden IMO anything else is kind of going overkill unless you want to zoom for closer detail
Good question. why pay for less screen and ram and get features you don't need like the sensor and ip57 ... if you can get N3 cheaper then I say take it
The S5 isn't perfect either I have had to take my battery out or restart it on occasions aswell
I would agree that you are getting far better value if you buy a note 3 over a S5. fact is the note has a bigger screen, more ram, more onboard storage and is only 200Mhz slower on the cpu

Go with the Note. I've had mine since it came out and I've never had a freezing issue. It sounds like you would like to have the Note 3 as well, so why not get one? It's a fine piece of hardware.

Is Note 4 still worth it ?

Is Note 4 still worth it to buy ?
I am thinking of buying a new one. Is N910C with Samsung Exynos 5433 octa core is good ?
I am choosing between Note 4 and S6. which is better ?

Note 4 . JUST DO IT !

Go Ahead for Note 4 , It's pretty one i swear & also S6 is not Supporting SD Card but Note 4 Dose ^_^
My Device is Samsung Galaxy Note 4 N910C

I will go for Note 4. Is there a big difference between quad core and octa core in note 4 ?

Heres the thing with tbe note 4 vs s6
Note 4 is a much better phone in my opinion. Its a phkne fkr the android enthusiasts who want to really get the most out of their phone hence the big screen and overhauled processer. The octacore has more cores and can run multiple strings but does eat some battery. The big disadvantage if the octacore is that it's only available in the international version.
The problem is that if your phone cracks, lcd goes bad, etc and you wan to replace the digitizer, board etc you have to buy an jnternational version or else it will not work meaning that they are more rare and a bit more pricey
Against the s6, the note 4 has similar specs but youre not really enjoying it on that small screen. And even if youre not a fam of big phones, at least stay away from the horrible seald glass back. Iphone learned from that mistake on their iphone 4 and those things were ugly once cracked. If you want that size of a phone get an lg g4 or an s5.
Back to the note 4. It is an overall well built phone and a beautiful one as well. The so called "phablet" size is something you get used to and it grabs alot of attention to woth the exclusive s pen as well (which is always cool)
Ask more note 4 users though and get their opinions too! ☺☺

Superdudekk said:
Heres the thing with tbe note 4 vs s6
Note 4 is a much better phone in my opinion. Its a phkne fkr the android enthusiasts who want to really get the most out of their phone hence the big screen and overhauled processer. The octacore has more cores and can run multiple strings but does eat some battery. The big disadvantage if the octacore is that it's only available in the international version.
The problem is that if your phone cracks, lcd goes bad, etc and you wan to replace the digitizer, board etc you have to buy an jnternational version or else it will not work meaning that they are more rare and a bit more pricey
Against the s6, the note 4 has similar specs but youre not really enjoying it on that small screen. And even if youre not a fam of big phones, at least stay away from the horrible seald glass back. Iphone learned from that mistake on their iphone 4 and those things were ugly once cracked. If you want that size of a phone get an lg g4 or an s5.
Back to the note 4. It is an overall well built phone and a beautiful one as well. The so called "phablet" size is something you get used to and it grabs alot of attention to woth the exclusive s pen as well (which is always cool)
Ask more note 4 users though and get their opinions too!
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The only available model in my country is N910C which is octa core. It will be the first time using big phone and i prefer note 4 over s6.

I consider Note too ,but wchich version snap or exynos? The main priority is battery! So wich would be better?

Raptor 2020 said:
The only available model in my country is N910C which is octa core. It will be the first time using big phone and i prefer note 4 over s6.
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Octa core ( Semi Octa Core as only 4 cores active at the same time) = Exynos
jkb91 said:
I consider Note too ,but wchich version snap or exynos? The main priority is battery! So wich would be better?
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Any differences (IF ANY) is negligible, so pick any model that you like.

Note4 experiance sum and verdict
Became a sucker the other day and bought a Note4 910F to replace my Note3.
Big misstake, why?
Too sum up my experience which includes 48hr of intense working around the phablet, I'm gonna simplify it as best as I can. So this is my verdict.
Cons:
- Battery drainage is a fact.
- All games, even "wheaphones" lag like a *****. The screen is simply too powerful for the chipset which makes all "heavy" games unplayable after 30 min or so. Also 1080p movies begins to freak out after some time because of heat and throttling.
- Bloatware. Hours you have to spend on removing and disabling them.
- No tempered glass covers actually look good, it bubbles up around all the edges because of the beveled screen.
- S Pen apps LAG. Autodesk SketchBook is a nightmare when using some brushes.
- You'll have too tweak in DEV's mode to hospitalize all functions and graphic Sam****s have put years on developing because it don't work fluently.
Pros:
- Beautiful screen resolution and pretty to look at.
- Good camera
- Nice feel too it
- Fingerprint (even though some have reported it too be some cause of the lag)
- Scores VERY VERY well on my tests.
3Dmark score was 1227, and AnTuTu score was 66 822.
- Fluent menus after removing all work sam****s have put in.
It's basically a phone without value from it's maker.
I've gone from first Note to 4. And note 3 is probably the best of them, every model with a different purpose. Note 4 was supposed to be a flagship but if you ask me it's a epic fail as they "DESIGNED" it for Gear VR and gaming! Say what now? They meant the 15-20 minutes you actually can play the game before the phone heats up, drains the battery and throttles in utter dissapointment. Thank you SAM****S, you've become as cheap as Apple's iphone.
Theres alot more I can say, but those points are sure a buzz kill.
Take my advice. Wait for Huawei Mate 8.
My Note4 is no longer with me lmfao. It felt sorry for itself and comitted suicide.
Good luck.

Is there much differnece in sound quality between exynos with wolfson / snapdragon with integrated chip? ? I can buy 910c or 910f version almost at the same price

alexeei said:
Is there much differnece in sound quality between exynos with wolfson / snapdragon with integrated chip? ? I can buy 910c or 910f version almost at the same price
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Not sure but check out the review on gsmarena where they review the sound quality. The sound quality was good (compare to my nexus 4) but I bought a usb otg cable anyways so I can use it with my usb dac.
The only con I would say about the note 4 really is the the shiny metal sides can be scratched easily. As other have said, between this phone vs. The LG G4, it really depends on what's more important to you. And the compare would be note 4 snap vs. LG G4 vs. Note 4 exnoys. I would of gotten the G4 if it looked better/more premium , had better battery life, and something that stands out like the spen.

@imeem true that. I mean I have both the G4 and the Note 4 and they are extreemly close in specs and ease of use. If there is no need for the spen though, I would say to get the G4. However the few times you need to write a note down, Samsung outdid themselves on that. Otherwise, take the s pen out of the equation and you have a slightly larger G4 with a physical home buttom

Samsung S6 Edge+ (does it have a loose button) or the Nexus 6P ? +my concerns

Hey guys!
I am kinda torn between these two devices. At first I waned the Edge+ but then after trying a few units in different shops I noticed that the home button is kinda loose. By loose I mean moving up and down (kind of like the one on the s6) instead of being stiff. Also I am pretty scared that it will be forgotten by Samsung after a while, just like my brand new s3 was forgotten back in the day (it only went from 4.0 to 4.3). Those being said..I think those two are my only concerns about the Edge+
On the other hand..is the Nexus 6P it's also a device I would like. It will always have the latest Android version (at least for about 3 years) and to me it looks okay. Not as sexy as the S6 edge+ but still looks nice. With this device I am concerned about either scratching the back of the graphite version..this exposing the raw aluminium...having the "visor" crack for no reason and I am also kinda concerned about the rigidity of the phone...last night I saw a guy on youtube bending it quite easily.
What would you recommend, guys? Nexus 6P or the Edge+
Please think what would you choose for yourself...and let me know. Also, are my concerns real? Did anyone scratch the back of the 6P or had it's visor crack by itself? Does anyone have an edge+ with a loose button? Hopefully if someone owns this device..they can shoot a really quick video showing the stiffness of the home button.
Also, even better...if someone owns both phones...which one would you pick again?
TLDR version: Nexus 6P or Edge+? Which one would you choose and why?
I am waiting for your answers guys! Hopefully I will get some fast.
Best regards,
Mihai Ilie

S6 Edge+ all over again
I've been using my S6 Edge+ since the launch day and if I have to, I'll pick this one again! I've never used a Nexus 6P, so probably my recommendation wouldn't be appropriate to depend on but the least I can do is tell you how the S6 Edge+ feels like!
1. No, I haven't noticed any loose Home button on my phone. Probably the store units were very roughly used. Also, I'm a hardware button fan (capacitive or tactile), so Edge+ gets a +1 here! It's just easy when the buttons are always there.
2. Display - The S6 Edge+/N5 Display super AMOLED display is amazing! The immersive feeling that you get while operating either of these devices is just incomparable! Deep blacks - another +1. 6P also has AMOLED as far as I've read but never tried it, so can't comment on its performance!
3. UFS2.0 vs eMMC 5.0 - If I'm currect, Nexus 6P is using eMMC storage while the the Samsung flagship is using UFS2.0 which is like 3 times faster than the former! And since it doesn't have any SD Card support, there's nothing to slow down the operations. Even the read/write from a PC on MTP is much faster than my old phones!
4. Exynos 7420 vs Snapdragon 810 - Processors are almost comparable except Exynos is clocked at 2.1 Ghz while the Snapdragon at 2 Ghz. Do not expect any such performance boost on either of them although the Exynos is 14nm fab while the other one is 20nm, so power consumption would a bit lesser in Exynos (just for the processor). If you look at the different benchmark results, you'll see Exynos 7420 above Snapdragon 810 but overall, the difference wouldn't be that significant!
5. 3 GB RAM vs 4 GB RAM - You might never need the additional 1 GB RAM with stock android on Nexus 6P but if you plan on putting another vanilla rom in your phone, an additional 1 GB would be significant in S6 Edge+. I never had any issue with the performance yet on S6 Edge+ but I believe 6P might perform better on a long run with additional upgrades and all (based on past nexus & note experience)
6. Camera : With OIS, S6E+/N5 has the best camera in the market! Sure 6P do have some nice slowmos, so it's upto your preference. I don't prefer to compare cell phone cameras, none of them are comparable to actual handheld cameras.
7. Gear VR - No, I'm not a Samsung fan but I do appreciate their efforts to excel in electronics industry. One of primary reasons behind getting a Samsung was to get my hands on Gear VR. And it was worth it! At just $99, it'll be the best toy you've ever owned! Combined with a Moga Controller, you'll be off to a parallel universe! Try it out in the stores.
8. Battery Life - With S6E+, I charge the phone at night and it survives the entire day on LTE always on and Wifi at home! I wouldn't say it has the best battery life, but I do not have any complains. Not so sure about 6P but considering it has 3450 mAh over 3000 in S6E+, I can only assume a better battery life with 6P.
Both the smartphones are comparable neck to neck although the S6E+ stands out due to it's amazing design. Both of them should be able to run all the latest games with highest details. The fingerprint sensor works great on S6E+, not sure about the 6P yet. And since you mentioned the software updates part, Nexus has always guaranteed upto 2 major upgrades and now they have announced 3 Years of monthly security updates (not featured updates) from the launch day of the device. As far as I've known, even Samsung has provided atleast 2 major upgrades (rolled out much slower than nexus though) on its flagships and recently they've shaken hands with Google on this monthly security update thing (not sure for 3 yrs or not though).
I know I probably haven't helped you choosing one but I hope the mentioned facts will help you choose one! Or the other comments will.:good:

No loose button here.
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I'm in the same boat. Want to trade my oneplus two for a s6 edge plus or nexus 6p.
Love the design, camera and screen from the edge but love the updates, fingerprint sensor and front facing sound from 6P.

no loose button on my Galaxy s6 edge+ Plus.
touchwiz is mostly lag free. sometimes my instagram crash sometimes cloeses for no reason but don't no if its the phone or the app it self.
s6 edge plus should get 2 years update.
Nexus 6P bends easily if pressed in the right spot. but otherwise should be fine.
get Nexus 6P if you want latest updates quickly as possible and can't wait. and get 3 years update.

Note 5 vs LG V10?

Soooo, I got a Trial Note 5 to play with, as I have had a Note 3, 4 in the past and other phones like the iPhone. But I also have a LG V10 I am trying too right now. For the life of me, I wanted to like the V10, but I am having a HARD time adjusting to the buttons on the back. It also has a bit of LAG to it where the Note 5 never shows it any more. My Note 4 definitely had lag.
Anyone else use a V10 to try and go back to the Note? I like the replaceable battery and SD Card 200gb.

Note 5 murder the v10 in terms of performance, screen quality and battery, V10 has higher quality audio, more video control micro SD and removable battery, the Note5 also got S Pen- it got many awesome features.
Take the V10 if- you need a phone NOW, it has to be with microSD and removable battery, and don't care about mid heavy 3D game performance, also V10 has locked bootloader and unlikely will be unlocked if G4 is any indication.
Take the Note 5 if- you need a phone NOW, you need the best performance, best screen, camera is slightly better than V10, though V10 has slight advantage in low light shots, you need more function from the phone aka S Pen features., if you care about instant root and unlocked bootloader too.
Wait after Feb 21, as Galaxy S7 and G5 will be announced, the GS7 will have it's micro SD back.

Derpling said:
Note 5 murder the v10 in terms of performance, screen quality and battery, V10 has higher quality audio, more video control micro SD and removable battery, the Note5 also got S Pen- it got many awesome features.
Take the V10 if- you need a phone NOW, it has to be with microSD and removable battery, and don't care about mid heavy 3D game performance, also V10 has locked bootloader and unlikely will be unlocked if G4 is any indication.
Take the Note 5 if- you need a phone NOW, you need the best performance, best screen, camera is slightly better than V10, though V10 has slight advantage in low light shots, you need more function from the phone aka S Pen features., if you care about instant root and unlocked bootloader too.
Wait after Feb 21, as Galaxy S7 and G5 will be announced, the GS7 will have it's micro SD back.
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I just packed up the V10 to sell again on Swappa. I can't stand it any more. I'll see if I can wait till Feb. 21st. But may just get a Note 5. Any benefits between the Note 5 and S6 Edge plus?

Software wise v10 wins but has no root as far as I I know
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I had a 32gb Note 5 and jumped to the v10 when they had the battery/200gb sd promo! The v10 was fun for a change due to ive had the note 2,3,4 and 5 as my last phones but i love the feel of the note and had yo jump back lol...Im running the MM 6.0 beta on my tmo Note 5 and it flys with zero lag!!!! Cant wait for the official update!!! But hands down the Note 5 is better but the v10 was pretty damn good for what it was!

nizmoz15 said:
I just packed up the V10 to sell again on Swappa. I can't stand it any more. I'll see if I can wait till Feb. 21st. But may just get a Note 5. Any benefits between the Note 5 and S6 Edge plus?
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Well if u fixed on the Note then get it now, it won't likely go down in price, or go down slightly in price as Galaxy and Note series are aimed at different crowd.
Note main feature is the S-Pen, although i don't use it as much but when i do, it's totally helping me to achieve certain tasks, i also like how the Note looks.
S6 Edge plus is just curved from the edges, Android 6 should get it even better, more function would be possible by the edge strips.
All other they have the same SOC, edge might look for appealing but it's up to u.

pbedard said:
Software wise v10 wins but has no root as far as I I know
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I don't agree. I think the LG software needs work.
Goody68 said:
I had a 32gb Note 5 and jumped to the v10 when they had the battery/200gb sd promo! The v10 was fun for a change due to ive had the note 2,3,4 and 5 as my last phones but i love the feel of the note and had yo jump back lol...Im running the MM 6.0 beta on my tmo Note 5 and it flys with zero lag!!!! Cant wait for the official update!!! But hands down the Note 5 is better but the v10 was pretty damn good for what it was!
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Yep, same here!
Derpling said:
Well if u fixed on the Note then get it now, it won't likely go down in price, or go down slightly in price as Galaxy and Note series are aimed at different crowd.
Note main feature is the S-Pen, although i don't use it as much but when i do, it's totally helping me to achieve certain tasks, i also like how the Note looks.
S6 Edge plus is just curved from the edges, Android 6 should get it even better, more function would be possible by the edge strips.
All other they have the same SOC, edge might look for appealing but it's up to u.
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Thanks!

nizmoz15 said:
I just packed up the V10 to sell again on Swappa. I can't stand it any more. I'll see if I can wait till Feb. 21st. But may just get a Note 5. Any benefits between the Note 5 and S6 Edge plus?
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y u quoting this? i answered before.

I had the Note5 when it released, and went to the V10 when it released. I am going back to the Note5.
The V10 has been a great phone. I can't begin to explain how nice it is to almost never have to plug in to charge - I always swap batteries instead. The camera on the V10 has a bit more fine-tuning, and much better low light potential, but in automatic point/shoot the Note5 seems to win in most camera comparisons. I also very rarely take pictures... even though the V10's camera was a huge selling point for me, I have no real use for it. Note5 will also outperform the V10, obviously. The audio quality on the Note5 certainly isn't poor, and I really don't notice the V10 being better with my $1,500 AKG K812 headphones, or $1,000 Shure SE846 IEMs - they're low impedance, so either phone drives them fine. The nice thing about the Note5 is having the built-in equalizer, whereas the V10 has none. The biggest selling point for the Note5 though, is the screen. OLED cannot be beat by an LCD. I have an LG OLED TV, and tried to buy a Samsung LCD for use elsewhere, but returned it - the quality is garbage compared to OLED. You're looking at the screen the whole time you're really using a phone - why not have the best screen possible? The lack of SD for Samsung kind of sucks because I have the 200GB card from the V10, but even with that, I have not used over 40GB counting internal storage as well, so the 64GB Note5 will be fine for me. I used to really think the S-pen was cool, but barely used that either. But it's still nice to have. I kind of wish the Note5 used on-screen buttons, but having that extra screen real-estate is nice.
Either phone is a great choice. As you can see I'm back and forth on certain points, haha. If the V10 had an OLED screen and better processor, I'd certainly stay with it. Kind of funny how LG dominates the OLED TV market, yet Samsung dominates the OLED phone display market.

I went from the Note 4 to a v10 mainly for the removable battery & SD. I had it for almost a month before trading it in for a note 5. Don't get me wrong- its a great phone, and at first I really loved it. But after a couple weeks I found myself growing more and more frustrated with it, mainly because of the awkward rear buttons and the bad battery life. The second battery I got from the promo was a necessity cause it simply would not last me the whole day even with battery-saving tweaks and a custom rom. The Samsung home button was still programmed into my muscle memory as well and I kept catching myself poking at the lower edge of the phone to turn it on. It was annoying to not have it there anymore. The fingerprint scanner rarely ever worked and I ended up just disabling it, which really sucked cause it was one of the features that drew me to it in the first place. I never realized how much I used the S-pen until it wasn't there anymore. I missed having hard buttons and found myself hating the stupid screen-shortening soft buttons. It's supposed to have the best camera on the market, but no matter what I did all my shots were either noisy or slightly blurry. I could go on, but you get it.
By the time I finally admitted to myself that there were more things I didn't like about it than things I did, it was too late to just return it and my only option was to do a jump upgrade to another phone. I didn't want to enter into another device payment for another note 4, so I grudgingly got a 64gb note 5 instead fully expecting to hate it, but ended up absolutely loving it. It's fast, I regularly end my days with 40% battery left, and I have full use of my whole screen again. Yes, no SD sucks but it forced me to finally go through all the crap I thought I needed to carry with me everywhere and found I didn't really need 2/3 of it. Got rid of about 25 gigs of music I haven't listened to in years, and rehomed my 128gb card in my tablet. I'm eating a bit of crow after all the crap I talked about the note 5 but I'm very, very happy with this phone.

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I had the Note5 when it released, and went to the V10 when it released. I am going back to the Note5.
The V10 has been a great phone. I can't begin to explain how nice it is to almost never have to plug in to charge - I always swap batteries instead. The camera on the V10 has a bit more fine-tuning, and much better low light potential, but in automatic point/shoot the Note5 seems to win in most camera comparisons. I also very rarely take pictures... even though the V10's camera was a huge selling point for me, I have no real use for it. Note5 will also outperform the V10, obviously. The audio quality on the Note5 certainly isn't poor, and I really don't notice the V10 being better with my $1,500 AKG K812 headphones, or $1,000 Shure SE846 IEMs - they're low impedance, so either phone drives them fine. The nice thing about the Note5 is having the built-in equalizer, whereas the V10 has none. The biggest selling point for the Note5 though, is the screen. OLED cannot be beat by an LCD. I have an LG OLED TV, and tried to buy a Samsung LCD for use elsewhere, but returned it - the quality is garbage compared to OLED. You're looking at the screen the whole time you're really using a phone - why not have the best screen possible? The lack of SD for Samsung kind of sucks because I have the 200GB card from the V10, but even with that, I have not used over 40GB counting internal storage as well, so the 64GB Note5 will be fine for me. I used to really think the S-pen was cool, but barely used that either. But it's still nice to have. I kind of wish the Note5 used on-screen buttons, but having that extra screen real-estate is nice.
Either phone is a great choice. As you can see I'm back and forth on certain points, haha. If the V10 had an OLED screen and better processor, I'd certainly stay with it. Kind of funny how LG dominates the OLED TV market, yet Samsung dominates the OLED phone display market.
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I had G4 and while i played with the V10, they not that different, the v10 is better than G4 but not by that much. in fact, G4 is one of the worst phones i ever used, v10 is slightly above it.
If LG could make they own CPU that would rival 7420, unlocked bootloader without any drama and improve their LG UI and software, as i find the new touchwiz far better than lg, then they might tickle the Note 5, but seriously they both aimed at same yet different people, if u want best of the best of all except SD card and removable battery, you take the Note5.
If u mainly care about camera and sd card and battery to swap on the go, you go with V10, oh btw just recently LG recalled a lot of G4 that stuck in a bootloop because the connector inside are not well connected.

Funny you mention that... I find the current versions if TouchWiz much better than LG's skin too...
TouchWiz is to the point I kind of actually like it. I miss some of the features and layout when using my nexus devices. Never thought I would say that!
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JasonJoel said:
Funny you mention that... I find the current versions if TouchWiz much better than LG's skin too...
TouchWiz is to the point I kind of actually like it. I miss some of the features and layout when using my nexus devices. Never thought I would say that!
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Touchwiz was a real cancer, but sammy made a cure, well almost i hope the Android 6.0.1 will introduce even a better touchwiz.

Derpling said:
Touchwiz was a real cancer, but sammy made a cure, well almost i hope the Android 6.0.1 will introduce even a better touchwiz.
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TouchWiz on MM is not that much different than it is on LP in terms of features. Though the beta we have isn't final so who knows exactly what is changed. I do like what I have seen so far in the MM beta though as it is even smoother than LP.
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Most people wanna hate the note 5 but after using one you will love it.

Both are great phones. LG has come a long ways.
I came from a note 5 to a G4, then a V10, and today, got some the note 5 again.
The note 5 is more polished then the V10. The V10 handed the Microsoft apps much better and the video was better. It was tough for me.
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Most people wanna hate the note 5 but after using one you will love it.
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Amen. I talked so much crap about this phone, damning it as a failure because of no SD card, no ir, no removable battery, etc, but now that I have one I love it to death.

I had the V10 for a bit and thought I loved it, but the moment I picked up a Note 5 I knew I had to get one instead. I didn't have to think twice about ditching the V10, there is NO comparison when it comes to the Note 5. I have been a hardcore Samsung hater ever since the Galaxy S3 came out (The GS2 Epic 4G Touch is still one of my all time favs), but they completely won me back with the Note 5. It has literally changed the way I use my phone. I used to think I was a power user, but I didn't know how much of a power user I would become when I first got the Note, it has some seriously game changing features for me (notably split screen and everything the SPen allows). I rely far more on the capabilities of the Note 5 than on any device I have had before. The V10 is barely a memory anymore. The Note 5 is easily the greatest smartphone ever created, there is nothing else that comes close.

Ppl keep talking bout detouchwiz-ing note 5. I've tried nova launcher and Google now launcher and always found myself coming back to the touchwiz launcher. I can't live without the s planner (calender) widget, which didn't work which either launchers.
Been note 2, 3, 4 and 5 user. There is absolutely no lag on note 5. There is absolutely nothing wrong with touchwiz
Love my note 5 to bits!!
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Is the Note 4 the best upgrade from a Note 2?

My Note 2 has served me well, but it's time to move on. The screen shows signs of burn in, and applications frequently crash due to (likely) faulty memory. Clearing the cache helps, but it's not something I want to do daily.
I'm looking for a similar phone with a pen/stylus, replaceable battery and mSD card support. Is the Note 4 the only option? Other than having a phone with no faults, what are expected to be the main benefits if I upgrade, and are there any regressions/drawbacks to consider?
Thanks!

wait a few weeks and see what the Note 7 have to offer ( it wont have removable battery though )

definately Note 7 - waterproof, with decent camera and audio, superb screen, sd card and many many more. I migrated to Note4 (DN5) from N3 and I'm waiting also for n7 as n5 is a crap (or beta version )

Lack of replaceable battery makes the Note 7 a non starter. When travelling I frequently use the phone for many hours without charging (on-foot navigation; tripadvisor etc) and I need it to be completely dependable. With a replaceable battery I just pop a new one in and I'm good for the rest of the day. I tried using a portable charger in the past, and hated how unwieldy it was compared to just spending 10 seconds to replace the battery.
The LG Stylus 2 Plus looks somewhat comparable to the Note 4 and is newer (Android 6, touch fingerprint reader), but seems to have a more limited stylus and lacks a physical home button (which I like very much in the Samsung, but I'm not sure lack of it is a deal breaker).
Thoughts?
Edit: Man, this promotional video from LG is good!

2 august is the day!!!
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What happens on August 2?

If you are on a budget then yes the Note 4 is a worthy upgrade from a Note 2. As it's the last in Samsung's flagship line that had a removable battery. However if you have the cash to spend, wait and get the Note 7.

The Note 7 doesn't fit my requirements, regardless of cost (no replaceable battery). It seems I need to decide between the Note 4 and the much newer LG Stylus 2 Plus.

oren_b said:
The Note 7 doesn't fit my requirements, regardless of cost (no replaceable battery). It seems I need to decide between the Note 4 and the much newer LG Stylus 2 Plus.
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Yap.
My vote is for Note 4.
It`s really an awesome device.
I`m using this one for last one year without any issue.
Excellent Display.
Removable Battery.
Expandable Memory.
Good XDA Dev support.
Stock MM really gives good battery backup.

Micheal86 said:
Yap.
My vote is for Note 4.
It`s really an awesome device.
I`m using this one for last one year without any issue.
Excellent Display.
Removable Battery.
Expandable Memory.
Good XDA Dev support.
Stock MM really gives good battery backup.
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Yeah, the LG Stylus 2 Plus is a rather poor spec device. You are much better getting the Note 4 instead of that! As the stylus used in the LG Stylus 2 is just a regular capacitive stylus that you can get at any high street retailer.

Ok, so I'm probably getting a Note 4 later this week. A few questions to make sure I'm making the right decision:
1. Is it easy to root?
2. Do I need to worry about Knox?
3. Can I use it worldwide without an issue (roaming)? I've had no issues at all in this regard with my Note 2.
4. I can get the N910C variant for less money than the N910F. Is there any significant difference between the two? Note that I don't play games on my phone.
Thanks!
Edit: I can also get the Galaxy Note Edge SM-N915F for the same price as the N910F. It seems pretty cool, but getting a TPU case for it (which I like) seems to be impossible. Such cases are very easy to fine for the Note 4 and usually cost only a couple of bucks.

The N910C is much more stable than the N910F as the N910C uses the Exynos 5433 SOC rather than the Snapdragon 805 in the N910F. You can root it pretty easily both the N910C and F models have excellent worldwide coverage with the exception of specific US carriers.
It is possible to get TPU cases for the Note Edge I've seen them online.

When you say the N910C is much more stable do you mean the N910F tends to crash / freeze, or something else?

Bought the Note Edge eventually. I love almost everything about it, but there are some senseless regressions on the software side:
- No way to display Favorites (contacts) as a list. The thumbnail-based display uses tiny text for names and has them truncated.
- No way to display Apps as a list. The grid display is much slower to browse because the eye has to go in different direction to follow the correct alphabetization.
- Dialer log does not support long-press menu anymore. Makes it more difficult to add a number to the reject list or favorites.
Why cripple things that used to work so well?

oren_b said:
Bought the Note Edge eventually. I love almost everything about it, but there are some senseless regressions on the software side:
- No way to display Favorites (contacts) as a list. The thumbnail-based display uses tiny text for names and has them truncated.
- No way to display Apps as a list. The grid display is much slower to browse because the eye has to go in different direction to follow the correct alphabetization.
- Dialer log does not support long-press menu anymore. Makes it more difficult to add a number to the reject list or favorites.
Why cripple things that used to work so well?
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Congrats mate.
Hope you`re enjoying your new device.
Best of luck.
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Overall I do enjoy it. Hopefully I can find solutions for these relatively minor annoyances.

oren_b said:
Overall I do enjoy it. Hopefully I can find solutions for these relatively minor annoyances.
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Sure mate. Best of luck.
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The Note 4 is great. Since you have no interest in the Note 7, then you'll be completely fine with the N4. I upgraded from a Galaxy S5 and it feels like a completely new phone even though it released a long time ago. Marshmallow breathes new life into it.

AndroidGTAF said:
The Note 4 is great. Since you have no interest in the Note 7, then you'll be completely fine with the N4. I upgraded from a Galaxy S5 and it feels like a completely new phone even though it released a long time ago. Marshmallow breathes new life into it.
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Exactly. It's an amazing device