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So I used and loved my Dell steak for a good year or so and I upgraded to an HTC vivid yesterday. The phone is fantastic, but I definitely miss the large screen. How is the Note for former streak users? Will it work on AT&T lte here in Dallas, TX? Is it worth selling the vivid and spending 800 bones on? What do you guys think?
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no lte but from the engadget review of the vivid, I would at least get a galaxy s2 skyrocket
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no lte but from the engadget review of the vivid, I would at least get a galaxy s2 skyrocket
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I gotta say, there's a lot of things that I find different about the vivid than in the Engadget review. Check out some of the comments in that thread. I spent well over an hour deciding which one I wanted. But this isn't about that. I think if the Note worked on AT&T's lte I would jump on the Note.
I'm a former Streak user and I've just upgraded to a Note. Loving it, although being a former Streak user means I'm not overwhelmed.
IMHO the Streak was a massively underestimated device, and sadly I think the Note may be heading the same way. And all because it's a bit big .
My first mobile (NEC P3) was humungously bigger than the Note and only had 4-line LCD display - the P3 was a real struggle to put in a jean pocket , the Note is definitely not and that's all that matters surely ? What is it with the "how it looks up to your ear" angst
The reason I upgraded to the Note is the increased performance, resolution, drawing/note taking ability and a better chance of getting decent and timely OS upgrades.
Can't help you with the connectivity questions (I'm in UK), but it seems a shame that in the US it's so hard to get these answers for you early adopters thinking of importing. Can't the US journos who review these things get the answers ?
trilotus said:
I'm a former Streak user and I've just upgraded to a Note. Loving it, although being a former Streak user means I'm not overwhelmed.
IMHO the Streak was a massively underestimated device, and sadly I think the Note may be heading the same way. And all because it's a bit big .
My first mobile (NEC P3) was humungously bigger than the Note and only had 4-line LCD display - the P3 was a real struggle to put in a jean pocket , the Note is definitely not and that's all that matters surely ? What is it with the "how it looks up to your ear" angst
The reason I upgraded to the Note is the increased performance, resolution, drawing/note taking ability and a better chance of getting decent and timely OS upgrades.
Can't help you with the connectivity questions (I'm in UK), but it seems a shame that in the US it's so hard to get these answers for you early adopters thinking of importing. Can't the US journos who review these things get the answers ?
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Fantastic points of view! I miss my large screen quite a bit, but lte here in Dallas is incredible and worth taking the hit. I've been finding that reviewers are reporting speeds that people get with hspa+ here as lte speeds. I've been getting a consistent 35 to 45mbps download speeds. I find that incredibly strange. If the Note can access those kind of speeds here in Dallas, it would certainly be a dream device to say the least. And definitely worth the cash.
Something I did to really sell me on the device (I dont have it... yet) is I went to best buy and dinked around with the Galaxy Player 5. It is running 2.3, is huge and still rather thin, which is the closest simulation to the Note I can think of. The people looked at me weird when I was trying to slide it in my pocket, but it confirmed that a device that huge can still comfortably fit.
Just a warning... as has been said, if one goes that big, Im not sure how one could ever go smaller...
and btw... first post
I had the streak. The note is better in every way!!! 21 MBPS at a desktop resolution while on the web at 1200 x 800 is much better for me than 50 MBPS on a smaller, less resolution screen. I am on wi fi most of the time anyway.
It looks like it does support lte according to Engadget's review, but it's very vague...
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It looks like it does support lte according to Engadget's review, but it's very vague...
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Unless you wait for the korean version (which still might not work) you will not get LTE on the Note.
Reclaim said:
I gotta say, there's a lot of things that I find different about the vivid than in the Engadget review. Check out some of the comments in that thread. I spent well over an hour deciding which one I wanted. But this isn't about that. I think if the Note worked on AT&T's lte I would jump on the Note.
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LTE won't be coming to most areas till 2015 on At&t.
All LTE means is worse battery life, more bulk, and most likely a worse processor. Just look at the skyrocket.
There really is no need for LTE on phones either. HSPA+ allows me to stream 1080p without stopping.
If you want LTE go buy a SGS2 ****rocket.
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LTE won't be coming to most areas till 2015 on At&t.
All LTE means is worse battery life, more bulk, and most likely a worse processor. Just look at the skyrocket.
There really is no need for LTE on phones either. HSPA+ allows me to stream 1080p without stopping.
If you want LTE go buy a SGS2 ****rocket.
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Are you joking? If you haven't noticed I live in Dallas and own an HTC Vivid. I'm taking great advantage of LTE right now. It's fantastic. Which is why I want the Note to have it. I'll also vouch that my battery life is no worse than normal on a typical Android phone. Your angry reply is either full of idiocy or misinformation. You have no idea what I do with my phone nor if I it need or not. I believe everyone is different. Hence the reason why we come to this site; to be different. 2015? Why did you even bother posting with such wrong information?
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None of the current versions of Gnote supports LTE.
The korean version will but I dont know if they are in the same band ( chances are no )
Eventually they will release it in US too. Here the chance that its going to be LTE is high. This might easily take 4-6 months.
If LTE were to come to my place, i would love to enjoy the LTE speeds too....
Its never too much when it comes to internet speed
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Are you joking? If you haven't noticed I live in Dallas and own an HTC Vivid. I'm taking great advantage of LTE right now. It's fantastic. Which is why I want the Note to have it. I'll also vouch that my battery life is no worse than normal on a typical Android phone. Your angry reply is either full of idiocy or misinformation. You have no idea what I do with my phone nor if I it need or not. I believe everyone is different. Hence the reason why we come to this site; to be different. 2015? Why did you even bother posting with such wrong information?
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Wasn't an angry reply. At&t hasn't even rolled out LTE in NY yet. It's about to be 2012 and AT&T only has LTE in about 8 cities, not including NYC. By the time AT&T covers all of the US at this rate, it will be about 2015 or '16. I don't understand how that's wrong info? Most of the US doesn't even have HSPA+ yet. I'm lucky to live in the small portion of HSPA+ area.
The ****rocket is heavier enough to notice a diff. when holding it in your hand against the og SGSII. It has a bulkier design and is choppy, again LTE is in about 8 cities.
How would I know where you live? I'm on the mobile version if you couldn't tell... Even if I was on the full site, I don't look to see where people live... that's just sketchy.
About your data usage and how it fits your "lifestyle". Unless you're illegally downloading movies, games, or other copyrighted files, there really is no point in having LTE. My home wifi sucks so I use my phone to download things occasionally, HSPA+ works fine and is fast enough and I watch netflix, download apps, and youtube vids on my unlim. data plan. LTE is also kind of pointless unless you have unlimited data as well.
Anyway before you start calling people idiots, use your head. LTE has been around for a long time now with VZW. It took them about 4 years to roll out their LTE network and it still doesn't give coverage to everyone. Now, since I'm "idiotic", correct my math... 2011+4=2015.
Did I duz gud Mr. Genius from Dallas, u iz 2 sm4rt 4 me?
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drgopoos said:
None of the current versions of Gnote supports LTE.
The korean version will but I dont know if they are in the same band ( chances are no )
Eventually they will release it in US too. Here the chance that its going to be LTE is high. This might easily take 4-6 months.
If LTE were to come to my place, i would love to enjoy the LTE speeds too....
Its never too much when it comes to internet speed
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Great! very informative!
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Wasn't an angry reply. At&t hasn't even rolled out LTE in NY yet. It's about to be 2012 and AT&T only has LTE in about 8 cities, not including NYC. By the time AT&T covers all of the US at this rate, it will be about 2015 or '16. I don't understand how that's wrong info? Most of the US doesn't even have HSPA+ yet. I'm lucky to live in the small portion of HSPA+ area.
The ****rocket is heavier enough to notice a diff. when holding it in your hand against the og SGSII. It has a bulkier design and is choppy, again LTE is in about 8 cities.
How would I know where you live? I'm on the mobile version if you couldn't tell... Even if I was on the full site, I don't look to see where people live... that's just sketchy.
About your data usage and how it fits your "lifestyle". Unless you're illegally downloading movies, games, or other copyrighted files, there really is no point in having LTE. My home wifi sucks so I use my phone to download things occasionally, HSPA+ works fine and is fast enough and I watch netflix, download apps, and youtube vids on my unlim. data plan. LTE is also kind of pointless unless you have unlimited data as well.
Anyway before you start calling people idiots, use your head. LTE has been around for a long time now with VZW. It took them about 4 years to roll out their LTE network and it still doesn't give coverage to everyone. Now, since I'm "idiotic", correct my math... 2011+4=2015.
Did I duz gud Mr. Genius from Dallas, u iz 2 sm4rt 4 me?
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My location is right there under my screen name. Again, you don't know what my lifestyle is like and I'll tell you now, it has nothing to do with illegal downloads. more about streaming from my cloud via pogo plug. Next, you clearly have a problem with reading things thoroughly as I clearly wrote Dallas, not Houston. So to answer your question: No. You didn't "duz gud". And if you think the weight difference between the skyrocket and the sgs2 is a big enough difference, then you should probably do a few curls with a dish towel to get a little stronger. As far as internet speeds go, you have crappy wifi? It's comparable to when you girlfriend says "It was good for me too". She just doesn't have anything better to compare it to. It's pretty awesome getting 45mbps on my phone as others that have experienced it can attest, and as they say; once you go LTE, you can't go back to slower speeds... or you can't go back to playboy! (well no one really says that, but it's awesome!) Think about what technology we will have soon that might require more data or faster speeds. Thinking what you have now is good enough technology wise is short sighted. I'd like to add that I still get unlimited data. It would be kinda lame if I didn't have that. Hey, at least we agree on something! Last but not least this article on engadget indicates that LTE Advanced will launch in 2013. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/atandt-commits-to-lte-advanced-deployment-in-2013-hesse-and-mead/
That means either most people will get LTE sooner that later or some of us will most likely be enjoying near 1gbps while HSPA+ is still good enough for you.
Woooo! Can I get an Amen????
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My location is right there under my screen name. Again, you don't know what my lifestyle is like and I'll tell you now, it has nothing to do with illegal downloads. more about streaming from my cloud via pogo plug. Next, you clearly have a problem with reading things thoroughly as I clearly wrote Dallas, not Houston. So to answer your question: No. You didn't "duz gud". And if you think the weight difference between the skyrocket and the sgs2 is a big enough difference, then you should probably do a few curls with a dish towel to get a little stronger. As far as internet speeds go, you have crappy wifi? It's comparable to when you girlfriend says "It was good for me too". She just doesn't have anything better to compare it to. It's pretty awesome getting 45mbps on my phone as others that have experienced it can attest, and as they say; once you go LTE, you can't go back to slower speeds... or you can't go back to playboy! (well no one really says that, but it's awesome!) Think about what technology we will have soon that might require more data or faster speeds. Thinking what you have now is good enough technology wise is short sighted. I'd like to add that I still get unlimited data. It would be kinda lame if I didn't have that. Hey, at least we agree on something! Last but not least this article on engadget indicates that LTE Advanced will launch in 2013. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/atandt-commits-to-lte-advanced-deployment-in-2013-hesse-and-mead/
That means either most people will get LTE sooner that later or some of us will most likely be enjoying near 1gbps while HSPA+ is still good enough for you.
Woooo! Can I get an Amen????
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Where did I type Houston?
Oh so now you are resorting to muscular insults. Well before I say anything, I bench 250 and hit the gym every other day, the reason I care about weight is I don't want an ugly fat phone that could be lighter.
I honestly do not see any use for 1gbps download speeds on a MOBILE Phone. Don't get ahead of yourself. PC's don't even require that kind of speed, so why would a phone need it?
Back to LTE... cool you get 45mbps, now name some practical uses of that speed. Doing anything that strains internet connection would not require even a tenth of that speed.
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Where did I type Houston?
Oh so now you are resorting to muscular insults. Well before I say anything, I bench 250 and hit the gym every other day, the reason I care about weight is I don't want an ugly fat phone that could be lighter.
I honestly do not see any use for 1gbps download speeds on a MOBILE Phone. Don't get ahead of yourself. PC's don't even require that kind of speed, so why would a phone need it?
Back to LTE... cool you get 45mbps, now name some practical uses of that speed. Doing anything that strains internet connection would not require even a tenth of that speed.
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So you edited your post via xda premium and you try to call me out? Others might not be able to tell, but you and I both know. With that said, since you resorted to trickery and lies, you no longer deserve replies. you lose.
Back on topic; Thanks for the feedback guys! I look forward to being a future Note owner with you!
You two need to get a room!!
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You two need to get a room!!
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hahahaha
Reclaim said:
So you edited your post via xda premium and you try to call me out? Others might not be able to tell, but you and I both know. With that said, since you resorted to trickery and lies, you no longer deserve replies. you lose.
Back on topic; Thanks for the feedback guys! I look forward to being a future Note owner with you!
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lol I changed it before you quoted me? It's in your quote . Trickery haha
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posted this in i717 forum but would also love input from international note owners as well
i currently have the AT&T LTE version of the note
and someone is trying to trade with me for their international version (they have t-mobile) and i'm currently stuck at a crossroads,
i do love the home button on the international and the development they have going on in their forum. However, i feel like development here will start to pick up also (running saurom with holo kernal) i live in San Francisco where LTE is pretty strong for me but the exynos processor does also sound nice. So this is my dilemma, any advice would be appreciated!
Note: yes i did search the forum and have read all the posts regarding at&t vs international but they all go back and forth without solid opinions =/ that is perhaps why i'm stuck right now lol.
I actually have both. There isn't much difference other than processor and LTE so i suggest pick what's important to you and run with it. I've only have the international version for about a day now so i can't comment on battery life as opposed to AT&T's version but then again your in a actual LTE Area where as i am not so that wasn't a factor at all for me. I will probably get rid of my AT&T version soon.
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I actually have both. There isn't much difference other than processor and LTE so i suggest pick what's important to you and run with it. I've only have the international version for about a day now so i can't comment on battery life as opposed to AT&T's version but then again your in a actual LTE Area where as i am not so that wasn't a factor at all for me. I will probably get rid of my AT&T version soon.
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The only real problem on facing is that I do love LTE however its very on and off for me its not definite LTE wherever I am in the city which is kinda swaying me back and both between the two
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LTE won't be in my area for so long that it just didn't matter and to be honest 6 or 7 mbps down and 1.5 to 2mbps up is sufficient enough for me.
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What's more important to you? If you like the different ROMS, development, and possibly getting faster upgrades to the latest OS, then the International Note. If you like better performance, then the International Note. If you like data download speeds on LTE or the ability to use your phone on either AT&T OR T-Mobile, then the AT&T Note.
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posted this in i717 forum but would also love input from international note owners as well
i currently have the AT&T LTE version of the note
and someone is trying to trade with me for their international version (they have t-mobile) and i'm currently stuck at a crossroads,
i do love the home button on the international and the development they have going on in their forum. However, i feel like development here will start to pick up also (running saurom with holo kernal) i live in San Francisco where LTE is pretty strong for me but the exynos processor does also sound nice. So this is my dilemma, any advice would be appreciated!
Note: yes i did search the forum and have read all the posts regarding at&t vs international but they all go back and forth without solid opinions =/ that is perhaps why i'm stuck right now lol.
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No need to think. Just get the International. It will have more diverse dev support than the AT&T version will ever get just because of the processor.
Unless you need LTE.
Int all the way. No discussion needed.
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Never had att version. But the international version development is awesome.......unless you really, really can't live without LTE
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I would go for the international every day of the week. I really love the home button.
But of course, if you can't live without the LTE then you should go for AT&T.
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I say int'l all day.....my buddy has the AT&T version and it honestly seems laggy to me
I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....
I have owned both. Ditched the ATT model simply for the dev support over here. Internationals battery life is better too.
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mumboender said:
I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....
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not 100% true, yes its true you dont have manufactures service and that part is true but there are 3rd party warranties that will service it like squaretrade.com for one.
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not 100% true, yes its true you dont have manufactures service and that part is true but there are 3rd party warranties that will service it like squaretrade.com for one.
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Note to self...research squaretrade.com...
Are you already using a 3rd party warranty? If so would you mind posting some quick facts on it?
mumboender said:
Note to self...research squaretrade.com...
Are you already using a 3rd party warranty? If so would you mind posting some quick facts on it?
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here is a screen print for the warranty on squaretrade for my intl note...
mumboender said:
I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....
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A jig and Odin can usually get you outta anything...lol Except a super hard brick
Int note all the way. even stock.. <--better for me anyway. to me it pointless to have LTE with capped data... do you really need that much speed to check facebook and emails lol <----for me no.. plus i use wifi 9 times out of ten at home.. now if we had true unlimited data. then LTE would rock. streaming movies and music etc. but alas capped data you will chew that up in no time..
other points for me. home button.. faster updates vs att.. no lag what so ever compared to the att..( preordered the att note but sold it too laggy and battery life was low ) <---batt life is awesome can go an 8 hour day. normal ,,facebook, emails, text etc, and still have like 80% left.. auto sync is off of course.. as well as gps and bluetooth..
anyway my point the int note works for me over the att lte version.
but agree either better proc/batt life vs lte its your call bud..
the only thing I'm stuck on right now is the lack of a warranty =\
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the only thing I'm stuck on right now is the lack of a warranty =\
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That should definitely be the only thing you should worry about... getting the int' version is a NOBRAINER unless you care about LTE...
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Int note all the way. even stock.. <--better for me anyway. to me it pointless to have LTE with capped data... do you really need that much speed to check facebook and emails lol <----for me no.. plus i use wifi 9 times out of ten at home.. now if we had true unlimited data. then LTE would rock. streaming movies and music etc. but alas capped data you will chew that up in no time..
other points for me. home button.. faster updates vs att.. no lag what so ever compared to the att..( preordered the att note but sold it too laggy and battery life was low ) <---batt life is awesome can go an 8 hour day. normal ,,facebook, emails, text etc, and still have like 80% left.. auto sync is off of course.. as well as gps and bluetooth..
anyway my point the int note works for me over the att lte version.
but agree either better proc/batt life vs lte its your call bud..
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Hey....you live like 45 minutes from me....lol
Hello guys
I have a Samsung galaxy s3 I9300 for a couple of months now and can't seem to get more than 9mbits down and 3mbits up in hspa+ (H+) speed tests. I am beginning to think it is a modem limitation.
What about you?
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Well, I had 6.7 down and 3.1 up; i guess it really depends on the career and the server u make the test. And also about how busy is the closest relay and how busy is it...there are many variables here.
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Ive had up to 14mbs down and 4.5mbs up.
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Well, I had 6.7 down and 3.1 up; i guess it really depends on the career and the server u make the test. And also about how busy is the closest relay and how busy is it...there are many variables here.
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I know but what I want to know is if it's possible to get more than 10mbits or if it's just not possible.
@prking07
Thanks, that is good to know.
By the way, do you guys know if there is any real world noticeable difference between browsing at 10mbits in hspa+ and 50mbits LTE?
I also want to know that, so i can't hardly wait to get 4G in my country soon
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With mine i get often 10mbits down and 2.5 up
I would love to get some more speed, but I'm uncertain if it's a limitation of the phone or a cap of the service provider.
Perhaps someone can shed some light on the radio in the I9300 and what it's capable of.
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S3 i9300 is capable of 21.6 Mbps
But most people will never reach that speed as it depends on carrier/relay/...
i got 19.11mbs the other day!
average i get 14/15
lowest is around 2mbs
Badelhas said:
@prking07
Thanks, that is good to know.
By the way, do you guys know if there is any real world noticeable difference between browsing at 10mbits in hspa+ and 50mbits LTE?
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No speed difference but for downloads/4k ultra high definition video etc I would suspect.
Not sure if 'latency' is improved or not (doubt it) Like ADSL1 has a lower latency than ADSL2. I suspect it's in a similar situation, damn physics...
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i got 19.11mbs the other day!
average i get 14/15
lowest is around 2mbs
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Really?! I thought 21mbits was merely theoretical and that no one was capable of getting more than15mbits or something like that.
It was with the i9300 international version?
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Really?! I thought 21mbits was merely theoretical and that no one was capable of getting more than15mbits or something like that.
It was with the i9300 international version?
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yep, gti 9300 s3. my area has amazing hspa+ speeds but at that speed, you burn through data like a rocket.
mine is never more than 4Mb/s
I only get around 1.4mbps H+ download on Orange UK in my area. Absolutely rubbish. Maximum I have seen is about 2.5mpbs
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yep, gti 9300 s3. my area has amazing hspa+ speeds but at that speed, you burn through data like a rocket.
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Where is your area? Can you please post a screen shot?
Thanks
10-15 down 2-4 up ping 50 ms
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paintball23456 said:
i got 19.11mbs the other day!
average i get 14/15
lowest is around 2mbs
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Screenshot or it never happened...
On HSPA+ my top score was just over 10Mbps in London.... My mate is on Vodafone and never got even close to 10Mbps so I don't believe you..
Now I'm using Three on DC-HSPA+ (up to 42Mbps) and best so far was over 18Mbps.... (screenshot)
I've seen ppl getting up to 20Mbps on Three DC... but never as fast on normal HSPA+...
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Now scoring 20Mbps+ most of time )))
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On the 3 UK network, I normally get 6-7Mbs downloads and occassionally I get up to 13Mbs.
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6.91 mbit/s down, 3 mbit/s up.
what would be the benefits of having download rate of 3mbps or higher on a mobile phone? other than to tether. if latency was low like LAN internet i would never subscribe to LAN type internet.
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So I'm coming from sprint so pretty much anything GSM is new to me. I'm sure it's not rocket science buy it is new to me. one of my main concerns is I've been going through different forums and it's a little confusing on whether i need to create a bs imei from an Atrix 4g to get the correct plan or is it going to be a hassle. Also if anyone is from NYC and has this phone what's your APN settings. I know didn't users are getting different results but I trying to make this a easy switch. Thanks
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So I'm coming from sprint so pretty much anything GSM is new to me. I'm sure it's not rocket science buy it is new to me. one of my main concerns is I've been going through different forums and it's a little confusing on whether i need to create a bs imei from an Atrix 4g to get the correct plan or is it going to be a hassle. Also if anyone is from NYC and has this phone what's your APN settings. I know didn't users are getting different results but I trying to make this a easy switch. Thanks
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If you are going regular ATT you will have to give them another phone IMEI. I have seen the S3 mentioned but I don't know which would be best. If you are going to ATT through Straight Talk you will not need to do this.
ajoerivera said:
So I'm coming from sprint so pretty much anything GSM is new to me. I'm sure it's not rocket science buy it is new to me. one of my main concerns is I've been going through different forums and it's a little confusing on whether i need to create a bs imei from an Atrix 4g to get the correct plan or is it going to be a hassle. Also if anyone is from NYC and has this phone what's your APN settings. I know didn't users are getting different results but I trying to make this a easy switch. Thanks
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Yes, if you want the best speeds for your nexus you'll have to convince them to change your imei number to an lte device. And then you'll have the highest possible speeds on your device as long as you add the right apn settings. You should be good.
Go here and do exactly what I posted
Post #2 has all the info you need. Don't question it, just do it!
Mods please close this thread this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034841 is way more helpful if anyone is having this issue
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So I will get hspa+ highest speed internet possible with att straight talk?
magicriggs said:
So I will get hspa+ highest speed internet possible with att straight talk?
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You would get higher speeds on T-Mobile's side, though AT&T would have better coverage.
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Wife and I got a Note 3 each. Mines on T mob and hers is on ATT networks. She consistently get more signal strength than I do. Both units are on ATT. Apps show mine as approx -111 db and hers as -107db . Signal strength bars wise, she has two and I have one or zero mostly, and thats outside!
Limeybastard said:
Wife and I got a Note 3 each. Mines on T mob and hers is on ATT networks. She consistently get more signal strength than I do. Both units are on ATT. Apps show mine as approx -111 db and hers as -107db . Signal strength bars wise, she has two and I have one or zero mostly, and thats outside!
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I can't help you, sorry, but I have been following your posts for several days so I am subscribing to see what you are able to find out. Good luck buddy!
This is one of the main things that concerns me about running t mobile version on ATT. It may technically work, but is it optimized for their network? I would like the fully unlocked bootloader, but not at the expense of phone funtionality.
And to that end, does visual voicemail work with the T Mobile phone? Just curious.
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drmacrofish said:
This is one of the main things that concerns me about running t mobile version on ATT. It may technically work, but is it optimized for their network? I would like the fully unlocked bootloader, but not at the expense of phone funtionality.
And to that end, does visual voicemail work with the T Mobile phone? Just curious.
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You mention the word "optimized" in vocabulary this means nothing until now. So perhaps, you have a point. We shall see. Generally speaking I go by whatis on the "box" if frequency is the same and then some then its good to go. I guess we shall see....:good:
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I can't help you, sorry, but I have been following your posts for several days so I am subscribing to see what you are able to find out. Good luck buddy!
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Please do. I don't mind sacrificing my self for the majority LOL. Too many variables as my unit maybe within certain tolerences of Sam"soog". Hence why I posted here.
You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.
This should be expected, until maybe both phones using the same exact modem. At that point the comparison should be closer but even if you had purchased 2 att n3 and 1 was made from date xx/xx/xx and 2 xx/xx/xx the results might still vary.
Also the csc stuff that happens on first boot seems to be relevant for data speed.. don't give up your hopes yet
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Also the csc stuff that happens on first boot seems to be relevant for data speed.. don't give up your hopes yet
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What about radio? I dont have the T mob device only att but is it the same radio?
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I have had similar experience to the OP in the pass with an HTC HD2 and that was the last time I bought a Tmobile phone to use on AT&T. AT the time what I experienced was AT&T given data priority to their own phones vs. imported or other network phones. According to the 3rd level tech I spoke with during my issues, If you bring a non-AT&T IMEI on their network, they will give it the lowest priority on their network. The device will work but it won't work as good as the AT&T device. The device show up on your account as a unknown phone. It was true back then I am not sure if it is true now. But given the circumstances with the lock bootloader, I would not surprise if AT&T was up to the same old trick but using the different technology or methods.
Keep in mind AT&T has nothing to lose by making sure their phones perform much better on their network. The Note 3 just hit market and the truth will come out soon or later. At this point I am going to stick with AT&T Note 3 and wait for the dust to settle a bit.
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You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.
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Agreed. My tests thus far are amatuerish at the best, we'll see...
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You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.
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I'm assuming he's with his wife and not at some gentleman's club
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Ran same more amateur radio testing side by side with wife's note 3. This time it was in the bedroom. LOL. Her db figures were higher slightly but showed two bars where as mine showed one bar.
I'm thinking the AT&T phone is set to display signal better.
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Limeybastard said:
Ran same more amateur radio testing side by side with wife's note 3. This time it was in the bedroom. LOL. Her db figures were higher slightly but showed two bars where as mine showed one bar.
I'm thinking the AT&T phone is set to display signal better.
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you are correct. the at&t displays a better signal when in reality, the differences between the two versions are insignificant.
I remember comparing the htc one developer edition to the at&t htc one and observing similar conclusions.
You are definitely right about priority on the network. That is still true today.
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By priority, I presume you guys mean when there is congestion?
With all those who are running T-Mo on ATT, I presume this would become prevalent during peak times or heavy congestion?
I think a good test would be a side-by-side ATT/T-Mo during peak hours to see if the ATT gets faster data...
At the same time, the SIM is an ATT SIM, which is an ATT account. I just wonder how the switch makes the decisions if in fact it prioritizes: Is it based on hardware IMEI or foreign accounts (roaming)?
I'm not sure how it's prioritized. But it would be in times of congestion. I can't explain how he gets less service than his wife.
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Lets not forget that AT&T fakes signal as well. Its been known when you run an AT&T ROM over a 3rd party ROM. Just some food for thought.
It may fake the bars but it can't fake the dB. That's the issue with the OP.
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It may fake the bars but it can't fake the dB. That's the issue with the OP.
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Completely agree there
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You are definitely right about priority on the network. That is still true today.
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If that is still the case then I will need a much better case to go out and buy other network phones to use on AT&T's network. My experience was pretty bad with the HTC HD2 during that time.
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By priority, I presume you guys mean when there is congestion?
With all those who are running T-Mo on ATT, I presume this would become prevalent during peak times or heavy congestion?
I think a good test would be a side-by-side ATT/T-Mo during peak hours to see if the ATT gets faster data...
At the same time, the SIM is an ATT SIM, which is an ATT account. I just wonder how the switch makes the decisions if in fact it prioritizes: Is it based on hardware IMEI or foreign accounts (roaming)?
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I believe one of the triggers was the IMEI because AT&T already have database of all the AT&T IMEI. When your IMEI does not match on their database, they normally don't know what kind of device you have. Essentially the network look at you as a step child and put you in the not an AT&T device bucket. I would presume if would definitely take effect during peak congestion time but I think it also play a role in other scenarios too. Again I am speculating on these scenarios but I recall my experience was not good. This was around the time where we did not have any LTE available. Either way, time will tell how they foreign devices with LTE on their network.