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Take Kitkat update OR keep Jelly Bean ?

Hi all:
this time I see Google insist that any new smartphone should be ships with the latest Android version.
What Google is looking for in KitKat ?
For me I will not update to KitKat !
Because of the following:
"The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions."
That means your microSD card is secondary storage and apps will not be allowed to use it, Google has screwed up the KitKat API as they think there is a big security problem with external SD cards !!!!!
Oh... your SD Card is completely useless, applications will no longer be able to create, modify or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network.
in short Google want you to use their cloud services instead of your SD card, I feel like we are going back in time, and Samsung is involved in this game.

one-option said:
Hi all:
this time I see Google insist that any new smartphone should be ships with the latest Android version.
What Google is looking for in KitKat ?
For me I will not update to KitKat !
Because of the following:
"The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions."
That means your microSD card is secondary storage and apps will not be allowed to use it, Google has screwed up the KitKat API as they think there is a big security problem with external SD cards !!!!!
Oh... your SD Card is completely useless, applications will no longer be able to create, modify or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network.
in short Google want you to use their cloud services instead of your SD card, I feel like we are going back in time, and Samsung is involved in this game.
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There is already a fix for that

I'm using KitKat and have no problem with ext.sd. everything is working good.

KK goes without saying!!!

KitKat!

Better kitkat :good:

KitKat. period. I flashed the stock firmware first before flashing custom formware. No issues.

yep, kit kat.

definitely kitkat.

Have a break (with jellybean). Have a KitKat.
cheers ~

Zoddex said:
There is already a fix for that
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Well, my S4 is not rooted , that fix also could miss your phone, I don't know what is the point in having a MicroSD slot, then Kitkat will make it useless !!!
as it is not enough that Touchwize rom taking much of the phone storage, but Kitkat will make things even more hard !!!!
Guys just be aware of what you are going to do with your S4

Zoddex said:
There is already a fix for that
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Link PLS ...

Mittaa said:
Link PLS ...
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Here you have it (from Google Play): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix

kponto said:
Here you have it (from Google Play): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
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Better late than never, but thanks anyway LOL
Found the same solution weeks ago :good:

I would suggest go for KitKat as it's awesome for performance and battery is beastly
Sent From S4 I9500 Crash Rom Final 4.4.2

Foldermount doesnt work on 4.4.2 i9500. Please recommend any alternative.

Hello,
Yesterday, I flashed 4.4.2 stock rom on my S4 i9500 through Odin. I was also successful in rooting it. then after installing titanium backup I uninstalled all the knox applications. now there were no knox warnings poping up all rooted apps were working good. Then I installed most essential root app in my phone called "foldermount". You know being a s4 owner how easy it makes your life when you can transfer all big games to the sd card and no internal memory full issue.
Now the bad part of story starts.When I opened the Foldermount it showed me an error message that To fix the error click okay and reboot the device. After rebooting all apps of phone like gallery, camera, Shealth, filemanager,music etc. Either stopped working or started showing the message that you dont have any internal memory or external sdcard on your device. In settings>storage, there it also said that 0 mb internal memory 0mb external memory. I also tried connecting my s4 to pc with usb storage option. It showed there too that internal/sdcard has total 0 memory.
So basically foldermount had screwed my phones memory. I think it had messed up the partition table of my phone. After that I reflashed my 4.4.2 and tried installing latest version of fouldermount and the whole thing happened again.
Now I have again reflashed the 4.4.2 rom. I think in 4.4.2 samsung has changed some stuff and foldermount is no longer compatible. Now I have also come to know that You cant downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3. :/
Please someone tell me alternative to Foldermount which is working on 4.4.2.
I would also like to know why foldermount no longer works on 4.4.2? is it only samsung's 4.4.2 rom or it also doesnt work on other 4.4.2 based roms.
Thanks!

diper07 said:
Hello,
Yesterday, I flashed 4.4.2 stock rom on my S4 i9500 through Odin. I was also successful in rooting it. then after installing titanium backup I uninstalled all the knox applications. now there were no knox warnings poping up all rooted apps were working good. Then I installed most essential root app in my phone called "foldermount". You know being a s4 owner how easy it makes your life when you can transfer all big games to the sd card and no internal memory full issue.
Now the bad part of story starts.When I opened the Foldermount it showed me an error message that To fix the error click okay and reboot the device. After rebooting all apps of phone like gallery, camera, Shealth, filemanager,music etc. Either stopped working or started showing the message that you dont have any internal memory or external sdcard on your device. In settings>storage, there it also said that 0 mb internal memory 0mb external memory. I also tried connecting my s4 to pc with usb storage option. It showed there too that internal/sdcard has total 0 memory.
So basically foldermount had screwed my phones memory. I think it had messed up the partition table of my phone. After that I reflashed my 4.4.2 and tried installing latest version of fouldermount and the whole thing happened again.
Now I have again reflashed the 4.4.2 rom. I think in 4.4.2 samsung has changed some stuff and foldermount is no longer compatible. Now I have also come to know that You cant downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3. :/
Please someone tell me alternative to Foldermount which is working on 4.4.2.
I would also like to know why foldermount no longer works on 4.4.2? is it only samsung's 4.4.2 rom or it also doesnt work on other 4.4.2 based roms.
Thanks!
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4.4.2 has sd card write problem. There is a fix for this problem on the forum n then use Foldermount or may be foldermount isnt compatible with 4.4.2. They ll release a compatibility update for it. I havent rooted yet n 8.41 gb is enough as internal!

diper07 said:
Hello,
Yesterday, I flashed 4.4.2 stock rom on my S4 i9500 through Odin. I was also successful in rooting it. then after installing titanium backup I uninstalled all the knox applications. now there were no knox warnings poping up all rooted apps were working good. Then I installed most essential root app in my phone called "foldermount". You know being a s4 owner how easy it makes your life when you can transfer all big games to the sd card and no internal memory full issue.
Now the bad part of story starts.When I opened the Foldermount it showed me an error message that To fix the error click okay and reboot the device. After rebooting all apps of phone like gallery, camera, Shealth, filemanager,music etc. Either stopped working or started showing the message that you dont have any internal memory or external sdcard on your device. In settings>storage, there it also said that 0 mb internal memory 0mb external memory. I also tried connecting my s4 to pc with usb storage option. It showed there too that internal/sdcard has total 0 memory.
So basically foldermount had screwed my phones memory. I think it had messed up the partition table of my phone. After that I reflashed my 4.4.2 and tried installing latest version of fouldermount and the whole thing happened again.
Now I have again reflashed the 4.4.2 rom. I think in 4.4.2 samsung has changed some stuff and foldermount is no longer compatible. Now I have also come to know that You cant downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3. :/
Please someone tell me alternative to Foldermount which is working on 4.4.2.
I would also like to know why foldermount no longer works on 4.4.2? is it only samsung's 4.4.2 rom or it also doesnt work on other 4.4.2 based roms.
Thanks!
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There is a easy fix for kk4.4 sd write protection issue by adding a simple line into a system file. Just search for it in the forum.
Enviado desde mi GT-I9500 usando Tapatalk 2

Thank you guys for replying.
I just checked the changelog of Foldermount and found this
v2.6.4
-Updated Portuguese (new translator: extream87), Polish, Latvian, German and Finnish locales. Thank you volunteers!
-All patching menus are scrollable. This should help some users that are not able to see the bottom buttons correctly in these dialogs.
-Fix a rare case where some S4/Note 3 users that update from 4.3 to 4.4 and patch the system using FolderMount leads to the disappearance of the internal/external sdcards.
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I think now foldermount will work fine on S4/Note 3. If it still doesnt work then I will try fixing "write_external_storage" thing.

damn...
After using the forums for a long time without registering, just did to point out I had the same problems. Read a lot before flashing 4.2.2, all went well until installing Foldermount... wish I read this one before installing it. SD Card looks empty on phone, but fine on computer, Play Store, S Health, Story Album kept crashing. Ended up doing a factory reset I didn't need, and flashing it all over again.

[Q] Strange SD Card Problem

Hey guys,
I have a huge problem! Since I flashed a custom ROM I cant use my SD Card properly...I can move things like pictures or music to the card and I can use it from there but I cant move Apps to the SD Card... No matter which ROM or Android version I flash it does not work. I cant remember which ROM version created the problem because I didnt noticed it first but it definately was CyanogenMod. I am using a 32GB micro SD card in my Galaxy S4. Before I flashed a custom ROM everything worked fine, even App2SD. atm I'm using 4.4.2 and I cant ****ing move my Apps which is really driving me crazy...
Also strange is that I have 3 different storages on my phone...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME
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thomaspoetzsch said:
Hey guys,
I have a huge problem! Since I flashed a custom ROM I cant use my SD Card properly...I can move things like pictures or music to the card and I can use it from there but I cant move Apps to the SD Card... No matter which ROM or Android version I flash it does not work. I cant remember which ROM version created the problem because I didnt noticed it first but it definately was CyanogenMod. I am using a 32GB micro SD card in my Galaxy S4. Before I flashed a custom ROM everything worked fine, even App2SD. atm I'm using 4.4.2 and I cant ****ing move my Apps which is really driving me crazy...
Also strange is that I have 3 different storages on my phone...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME
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This thread will probably help you if you follow the points step by step. It´s originally written for the Note 3 but can be equally applied for the S4. If it doesn´t, then your SC card is likely to be broken and you´ll need to get a new one.

Hi,
Thanks for the reply but I don't think this will work, nevertheless I will try it an post the result here. My card is definately not broken because it works in my computer and in other devices as well.
Greets from Germany

thomaspoetzsch said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply but I don't think this will work, nevertheless I will try it an post the result here. My card is definately not broken because it works in my computer and in other devices as well.
Greets from Germany
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KitKat disabled SD Card support for anything other than regular files. this means you cannot move apps to a SD card anymore, you have to roll back to a Jelly Bean rom, or use SDFix, run it, and then use Link2SD to move your apps.

thomaspoetzsch said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply but I don't think this will work, nevertheless I will try it an post the result here. My card is definately not broken because it works in my computer and in other devices as well.
Greets from Germany
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You may also try to "fix Permissions" in recovery

ApolloJustice said:
KitKat disabled SD Card support for anything other than regular files. this means you cannot move apps to a SD card anymore, you have to roll back to a Jelly Bean rom, or use SDFix, run it, and then use Link2SD to move your apps.
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Thanks for not reading the text you quoted. As I said I already tried other android version and had the exact same problem. And things like sd fix don't work sdfix tells me that I already have permission and no change is required..

petrusconsult said:
You may also try to "fix Permissions" in recovery
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Fixing permissions didn't work either :/

[Q] Has note 3 got the sdcard fix?

Has galaxy note 3 gotten the 4.4.3 which fixes the sdcard write restriction? Or does it still have to be rooted to write to the sdcard?

??? Why?
I was on Stock ND3, my sd card is fine.
I change to stock NE4, and everything is ok with my sdcard.
And both I tried without root.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.

andsa said:
Has galaxy note 3 gotten the 4.4.3 which fixes the sdcard write restriction? Or does it still have to be rooted to write to the sdcard?
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yes it has gotten the OTA fix update a good while back.
i am using it.. i got the sd card fix on android 4.4.2 .. android 4.4.3 has other fixes
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Does Samsung released 4.4.3 for Note 3? I’m using 4.4.2 updated recently but still not sd card write permission fixed.

4.4.3 is barely out for the Nexus, it's going to be a while before we see it on the Note 3.
What they fixed in the recent 4.4.2's is the ability to read from the MicroSD.

ShadowLea said:
4.4.3 is barely out for the Nexus, it's going to be a while before we see it on the Note 3.
What they fixed in the recent 4.4.2's is the ability to read from the MicroSD.
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Yes I heard that same, but this post confused me.
Read or write? mine from the start read well all data by external/non stock apps but cant write. After a recent update few weeks back its still does same. I use wifi FTP to transfer files but its cant write in SD card.

soumen.sam said:
Yes I heard that same, but this post confused me.
Read or write? mine from the start read well all data by external/non stock apps but cant write. After a recent update few weeks back its still does same. I use wifi FTP to transfer files but its cant write in SD card.
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When the first 4.4.2 update came out, 3rd party apps couldn't even read the SDcard. Samsung fixed that problem in the consequential update.
You still can't write to it without either A, apps that use a workaround, or B, Root Access.
ES File Explorer, for instance, works. (For the most part, renaming doesn't.)

ShadowLea said:
When the first 4.4.2 update came out, 3rd party apps couldn't even read the SDcard. Samsung fixed that problem in the consequential update.
You still can't write to it without either A, apps that use a workaround, or B, Root Access.
ES File Explorer, for instance, works. (For the most part, renaming doesn't.)
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All right, I didnt know that. My phone came with 4.4.2 stock and just one or two updates after that and didnt see this (sd card read) issue never. Thanks for the clarification.

galaxy S4 microsd card problem

Hello
I have SanDisk 64gb microsd. I have not done anything to the phone and now periodically the phone stops reading the 64gb card .It does not say unmounted just when I check gallery the photos are not there and I have to restart the phone.
I have a rooted 4.3 ROM..The only thing I can think of is ES file explorer potentially caused issues. I noticed things acting weird after I used it when I do heavily.
Please help. Any and all advice welcome. Thanks

Tried to re flash a nandroid still issues. I noticed in general my touchwiz is running so slow. I flashed sacs red theme about a month ago. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. Should not have.
It will reread it when I remount it or reboot. Not sure specifically what is causing it though.

mikeprius said:
Tried to re flash a nandroid still issues. I noticed in general my touchwiz is running so slow. I flashed sacs red theme about a month ago. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. Should not have.
It will reread it when I remount it or reboot. Not sure specifically what is causing it though.
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Have you tried searching the forums for sdcard fix? Google it? There have been issues with 4.4 and sdcard reading issues. Also downloading foldermount from the playstore has helped others with issues. If all else fails reinstall rom.
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I searched on Google and there is not really a concise answer as to why this happens. It is a very ambigious issue, however; it seems to be a reoccuring issue with SanDisk cards and 4.4 KitKat ROMs.
What I did was completely flush out and re-installed both custom recovery and my ROM to 4.2.2
It is disappointing because I really like my Samsung Galaxy S4 phone and you'd think upgrades mean better quality product when it has not. 4.4 KitKat ROM is not that good. I don't like both CM and TW versions of KK. One feature I do not like with TW KitKat is the inability to hide icons. There are also issues with battery drain and free hotspot mod.
I don't know what is going on. When I plug my phone into the computer I can access the SD card. When I check the phone it is not reading the SD card. Don't know what the problem is.

Have you tried a different SD card? That would help you determine if it is specific to the card or potentially a phone issue.

What I will do is try and format the SD card with the phone, then put everything back on. So far, I have isolated it to ESFile explorer. Initially I did not update the apk and thought that would work. It did not.
Here's what has happened:
I use ESFile explorer to access the SD card. Then when I went into clockworkmod, I tried to delete a nandroid copy I made. It says 'failed to delete'.
Then the ROM and sdCard do not work correctly anymore, so I have to wipe and re-flash an old nandroid.
Makes me wonder if something is corrupted in the SD Card. Everything used to work fine, but now whenever I access the SD Card with ESFile explorer, even the old version of it, it causes issue.

There is a problem with some Sandisk SD cards. Evidently there was a bad batch. I had some of the same issues. My card was bad. I went to Sandisk's website and they replaced it for free. I was without my card for a week but I got a new one and everything seems to be working fine now.

Can you explain how you did this ? So an update on my situation. I can read the sd card but it will not format and nothing can be written to the card. I tried using recovery and touchwiz to format and it fails.
Can access what is on there but cannot write or format anymore. Any ideas ? At this point I swapped to a new SanDisk card I had lying around. Don't know what to do with the old card

mikeprius said:
Can you explain how you did this ? So an update on my situation. I can read the sd card but it will not format and nothing can be written to the card. I tried using recovery and touchwiz to format and it fails.
Can access what is on there but cannot write or format anymore. Any ideas ? At this point I swapped to a new SanDisk card I had lying around. Don't know what to do with the old card
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I assume you are asking me how I got my card replaced. I did some research and found the issue mentioned here on XDA as well as on the internet. I went to Sandisk's website, http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/list/kw/microsd microsdhc/, and did some more research. I finally contacted their customer service and they told me the process for getting the replacement shipped. If I were you I would just contact their customer service on their website and let them run you through the process.