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Anyone have any clue how to set up SetCPU to maximize battery life on a Nexus one with A11 of the Sapphire ROM? There are so many settings and profiles and on demand/conservative/etc. and the profiles and advanced, etc.
Any ideas?
On-demand is way to go for battery life. It basically means it only uses the amount it needs to. So 245-998 means it cuold run less then 998 at low stress times.
I use profiles.
Charging, I turn max down to like 615 or so to keep heat down
Under 40% Battery, I go down to 615 to save battery
OVer 40C, I go down to 576 to get it back under 40C.
Also, some people underclock the CPU to maximize battery life. Just realize there is a give and take because a slower CPU = longer process time. A happy medium is probably the most efficient.
how do you know when the cpu runs faster? like can i open certain apps and see that it goes up? i always see mine at 384
One thing you need to know is that your CPU settings aren't what you think. Setting a "Screen Off" profile is pointless. Your phone idles at 386mhz already. When you set a MAX CPU speed you're telling your phone that it is not allowed to use more than that setting.
The only real thing you're going to get from SetCPU is a "Screen on" MAX.
I set mine at 800 and I got a significant battery life increase.
Cheeze[iT] said:
how do you know when the cpu runs faster? like can i open certain apps and see that it goes up? i always see mine at 384
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Your CPU goes up when it's being used more. If you're on Ubuntu on your PC you can add a CPU monitor to the task bar. When you open something you can see the usage go up. You can do it on windows too but you have to have task manager open.
It's the same as any computer. Usage = battery loss.
just an FYI...
i have this set between 768-998MHz an i get exceptional battery life and its snappy as well. set on 'performance' and i unplugged the phone this morning at about ~7:30 ans i have 69% battery left under moderately-heavy usage
=] my phone just came back as a replacement NEW on monday. i unlocked the bootloader so i ad to pay them $55.. oh well
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One thing you need to know is that your CPU settings aren't what you think. Setting a "Screen Off" profile is pointless. Your phone idles at 386mhz already. When you set a MAX CPU speed you're telling your phone that it is not allowed to use more than that setting.
The only real thing you're going to get from SetCPU is a "Screen on" MAX.
I set mine at 800 and I got a significant battery life increase.
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Can you elaborate? You are saying I should just set the overall max to 800 on my N1? Do I set it to ondemand and set on boot? Won't that slow the device down?
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Can you elaborate? You are saying I should just set the overall max to 800 on my N1? Do I set it to ondemand and set on boot? Won't that slow the device down?
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I've been playing with the overall speed as well. i turned mine down to the 600 range and it still feels fine. I'm still confused about the 3 options, the ondemand, userspace or performace... whats the difference? I don't ever feel like it clocks down?
Cheeze[iT] said:
I've been playing with the overall speed as well. i turned mine down to the 600 range and it still feels fine. I'm still confused about the 3 options, the ondemand, userspace or performace... whats the difference? I don't ever feel like it clocks down?
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_frequency_scaling
So my battery life pretty much sucks and i've been looking for a way to improve it a bit, which is how i found this thread.
I downloaded SetCPU already but which settings do i choose to maximize my battery life?
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Dumbestcrayon said setting max to 800 worked well so i tried but i cant get it exactly on 800. Also, profiles are blank right now since i dont want to choose anything that could stress my phone.
Any help would be awesome
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So my battery life pretty much sucks and i've been looking for a way to improve it a bit, which is how i found this thread.
I downloaded SetCPU already but which settings do i choose to maximize my battery life?
This is how i have it now:
Dumbestcrayon said setting max to 800 worked well so i tried but i cant get it exactly on 800. Also, profiles are blank right now since i dont want to choose anything that could stress my phone.
Any help would be awesome
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There's not much you can do with SetCPU to improve battery life. I have mine set to 768 at all times and it helps a little. Understand that you're not going to change much. The only way to improve battery life is to not use your phone. Other than that you're pretty much going to get the same results. A lot of people will argue but common CPU knowledge shows other wise.
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There's not much you can do with SetCPU to improve battery life. I have mine set to 768 at all times and it helps a little. Understand that you're not going to change much. The only way to improve battery life is to not use your phone. Other than that you're pretty much going to get the same results. A lot of people will argue but common CPU knowledge shows other wise.
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While he may call himself/herself the dumbest crayon, it isn't much so.... Set cpu was made to kill your battery while trying to scavange whatever is left.. it is more intended, now, for overclocked usage. Not stock. Cause as noted.. this is not really for regular use as it only improves a little. What matters is the kernal being used. This is where the engine for everything that you is kept, to work with the processor.
After this, set cpu is a show item...
So just to be clear. I was reading that the HTC Incredible will be underclocked to 768. Is it possible to underclock to 768mhz with just SetCPU, or does a modified kernel have to be flashed to see any battery performance benefit?
thanks.
ghostrida said:
So just to be clear. I was reading that the HTC Incredible will be underclocked to 768. Is it possible to underclock to 768mhz with just SetCPU, or does a modified kernel have to be flashed to see any battery performance benefit?
thanks.
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yes you can underclock you would set your Max speed to that speed and don't use profiles.
Ok so it is very hard to find dedicated threads to this and I think the more of us trying this and reporting back to one thread, the more successful we will be in achieving great battery life or performance (i do it for battery life)
Here's what i have found to work well today, just some simple adjustments but my battery didn't drop a single percent for about 1.5 hours of very light use(still great tho).
MAIN TAB
Setting the Scaling to: Conservative
Max: 1000MHz
Min: 100MHz
PROFILES TAB (i only have one profile set):
Screen off - Max: 400 (don't go lower, your phone wont wakeup)- Min: 100- conservative - Priority 50
ADVANCED TAB(minimal changes, but i feel they have helped a bit):
Sampling Rate: 20000
Up Thresh: 80
Down Thresh: 25
Ignore Nice: 0
Freq Step: 20
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These may not be the best settings as we will play guess n check, but thats the reason of this thread, lets figure these things out.
You need root permission's for this, correct?
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You need root permission's for this, correct?
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yessir you do
You should look into the smartass governor if you want to look for screen off frequencies. SetCPU only wastes CPU cycles for you to do this when a kernel can do it. Of course, I believe the end result is that you're still saving more battery, so at least it's a step forward
I'm overclocking 1.2 ghz. Switching between interactive and conservative.
Conservative has better battery life, but interactive is a bit snappier.
I'm new to the setcpu thing; gathered bits and pieces here and there to try and find the perfect settings.
Great thread though, hopefully people will post so we can take full advantage of this beast!
BTW, Tried to post screenshots, but I need more forum activity.
Had no success with conservative myself it allows the clock to step down to 100 eventhough I have the minimum at 200. The smart ass works like a charm no more lock screen lag
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I'm overclocking 1.2 ghz. Switching between interactive and conservative.
Conservative has better battery life, but interactive is a bit snappier.
I'm new to the setcpu thing; gathered bits and pieces here and there to try and find the perfect settings.
Great thread though, hopefully people will post so we can take full advantage of this beast!
BTW, Tried to post screenshots, but I need more forum activity.
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Hi. I am new to over clocking with SetCPU. How did you get it to go over the 1000 max? I don't understand all of the other settings enough to feel brave enough to change them other than the first tab.
Thanks
ArizonaLoco said:
Hi. I am new to over clocking with SetCPU. How did you get it to go over the 1000 max? I don't understand all of the other settings enough to feel brave enough to change them other than the first tab.
Thanks
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You have to flash a custom kernel (i recommend netarchy's kernel), then when you open setcpu, you can "autodetected recommended settings". You will then see the ability to overclock.
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Ok so it is very hard to find dedicated threads to this and I think the more of us trying this and reporting back to one thread, the more successful we will be in achieving great battery life or performance (i do it for battery life)
Here's what i have found to work well today, just some simple adjustments but my battery didn't drop a single percent for about 1.5 hours of very light use(still great tho).
MAIN TAB
Setting the Scaling to: Conservative
Max: 1000MHz
Min: 100MHz
PROFILES TAB (i only have one profile set):
Screen off - Max: 400 (don't go lower, your phone wont wakeup)- Min: 100- conservative - Priority 50
ADVANCED TAB(minimal changes, but i feel they have helped a bit):
Sampling Rate: 20000
Up Thresh: 80
Down Thresh: 25
Ignore Nice: 0
Freq Step: 20
These may not be the best settings as we will play guess n check, but thats the reason of this thread, lets figure these things out.
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i used following profiles and UV settings...
still looking into it though...
http://caleb1783.tistory.com/196
I'm not using setcpu. It causes launcher pro to freak out for me. Installed CPU master and all is perfect. Running matr1x 7.5 @1.3 jiggawatts with the smartass v2 governer. Also I'm on gpa17 at the moment.
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After reading this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052496
I found I got the "faster" type. As I understand it, this means my cpu has less power/frequency needs, and so, because the stock kernel is configured to manage any of the possible cpu binnings, the settings are probably not the optimal ones for my particular unit. So, does this mean my phone is running at a higher voltage than it needs? Should I undervolt it? How?
While faster CPU binning does mean that you CPU can run more stable at a lower voltage, UV doesn't save you that much of battery.
Most of the battery goes to the screen. The least I have seen around is 50%. Then the next culprit is the radio. And you also have RAM, storage, etc. UV might give you around 1% more battery or so.
You can try UV if you want, but I don't think you need, or should do it.
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While faster CPU binning does mean that you CPU can run more stable at a lower voltage, UV doesn't save you that much of battery.
Most of the battery goes to the screen. The least I have seen around is 50%. Then the next culprit is the radio. And you also have RAM, storage, etc. UV might give you around 1% more battery or so.
You can try UV if you want, but I don't think you need, or should do it.
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Actually that's not the in my phone. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but AndroidOS, Google Services or MediaServer usually show up as the battery top drains. I have to say I'm on wifi most of the time and the screen time is usually around 1 hour per day. I'm using all the sync features, google now etc, so I I thought reducing the 384Mhz voltage would have some impact
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Actually that's not the in my phone. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but AndroidOS, Google Services or MediaServer usually show up as the battery top drains. I have to say I'm on wifi most of the time and the screen time is usually around 1 hour per day. I'm using all the sync features, google now etc, so I I thought reducing the 384Mhz voltage would have some impact
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Presumably you're not talking about under volting, but under clocking?
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No, I'm not. Looking at my cpu modes graph, it makes sense to me that reducing the voltage at which the cpu runs at 384mhz would reduce the consumption:
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While it is debatable whether you will save any noticeable amount of battery by undervolting, I have found it to significantly reduce the heat produced by the CPU. Our SOC's are great undervolters, so I don't see any reason NOT to undervolt.
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heat = energy, I highly doubt you can feel a difference in temperature but not in battery lol. How are you guys undervolting? I tried setCPU but it doesn't work, is a custom kernel needed?
KyraOfFire said:
While faster CPU binning does mean that you CPU can run more stable at a lower voltage, UV doesn't save you that much of battery.
Most of the battery goes to the screen. The least I have seen around is 50%. Then the next culprit is the radio. And you also have RAM, storage, etc. UV might give you around 1% more battery or so.
You can try UV if you want, but I don't think you need, or should do it.
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I think the battery usage by the screen that is being reported includes more than just the amount of battery used to power the screen. Due to project butter, touching the screen ramps up the CPU to high frequencies, like 1026 - 1512 GHz, making the phone buttery smooth yet sucking the life out of it's battery. In other words, the screen usage includes its touch boost processing usage as well, which in its self is allot of usage. Basically, UV should improve battery life significantly.
Still noone tells me how to do it xD
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Still noone tells me how to do it xD
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You need to install a custom kernel that allows undervolting then use an app such as system tuner to undervolt.
Mine shows as a nominal CPU and I could under volt quite a bit. Makes a nice difference to heat and battery life is noticeably better.
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Okay, I thought rooting would be enough Honestly, I'm liking the stock kernel overall, what's the closest to stock kernel that allows undervolting I can find? If there's no such thing, what do you recommend me?
Thanks in advance
The easiest way, with the minimun amount of work, would be flashing motley kernel. UV by default and you faster binning CPU is fully accounted for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021437
Trinity kernel also UV by default. He has his own website here
http://forums.derkernel.com/index.php/topic,47.0.html
Download the zip file, flash it in recovery, wipe cache/dalvik and you're good to go.
You can also try other kernel/ROM that support UV. Most likely you will need a control app.
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What's a good level to undervolt to I'm on faux's 001 have a nominal cpu and right now I'm -100 MV should I UV more? My phone is still completely stable at this level
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What's a good level to undervolt to I'm on faux's 001 have a nominal cpu and right now I'm -100 MV should I UV more? My phone is still completely stable at this level
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Every phone can handle different uv levels, mine seems to be -150, and I have "fast" cpu. You can try higher but don't set the voltage to be "on boot" or else you'll get the bootloop or freeze.
Hello, I was recently playing around with the CPU settings in 3C CPU manager, and I noticed the default powersaver configuration isn't that good, compared to mine.
I am using the stock kernel.
Firstly, I noticed that the interactive governor is too sensitive for the A53 cores and it would cause the CPU frequency to jump up to the maximum very easily.
Secondly, I felt that based on my general day-to-day usage (heavy web browsing + some gaming), 4 cores are more than sufficient.
I played around with the ondemand governor and just set its powersave bias to 185, then took all the cores except cores 0, 1 and 4 offline (2x A53 + 1x A57).
I set the A53 cluster to run on the ondemand governor and the A57 core to run on the default interactive governor.
If you want, you can downclock the A53 cluster to 1.34 ghz after you disable pnpmgr, and you should be able to get 6.5 hours of heavy-usage SOT on the stock kernel with little to no lag at all, on a ROM that has Force GPU rendering on.
Do try it out and let me know of the results! :good: (don't forget to disable wakelocks for Google Play Services too)
this is reeeeally high powersaver, too much compromise, and there are people who reach that SOT without any mod
throcker said:
this is reeeeally high powersaver, too much compromise, and there are people who reach that SOT without any mod
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Hmm... compared to the stock powersaver this actually gives higher scores in both single core and multi core benchmarks. I also have auto-brightness on. However, I get absolutely no lag and my usage is very heavy, almost all my SOT is web browsing on HSPA, with some gaming here and there. I'm open to suggestions though.
For comparison purposes, on the stock powersaver configuration (A53 only), I get 4 hours and 14 minutes of SOT at 1%.
Without downclocking on this configuration, I got 7h 6min of total time and 5h SOT from 98%.
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this is reeeeally high powersaver, too much compromise, and there are people who reach that SOT without any mod
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only way i could get that amount of SOT without any mods is if i disabled any and all data/signal and just sat at a picture all day
Which core is a53 cluster and which is a57?
acidspider said:
Which core is a53 cluster and which is a57?
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0,1,2,3 are the little(A53) and 4,5,6,7 are the big one(a57)
Sorry but these setting were pretty much worthless here. the default settings in the LeeDroid Kernel are much better. Freezing Google Play Services just screwed up my contact list and didn't do much else.
applied your settings (phone was at 97%) went to thanksgiving dinner at my sisters never picked up the phone but about 3 times and made 2 phone calls less than 10min each and used almost 57% of the battery in 4 hours. I typically use about 40% battery in a full 9 hour day at work.
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Sorry but these setting were pretty much worthless here. the default settings in the LeeDroid Kernel are much better. Freezing Google Play Services just screwed up my contact list and didn't do much else.
applied your settings (phone was at 97%) went to thanksgiving dinner at my sisters never picked up the phone but about 3 times and made 2 phone calls less than 10min each and used almost 57% of the battery in 4 hours. I typically use about 40% battery in a full 9 hour day at work.
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freezing google play service breaks more then helps.. also stock settings are much better then any of these "powersaving " settings...actually amplify and greenify with donate app and xposed do help also a lot and using high accuracy mode for location.
but keeping the kernel settings at nearly stock, maybe just lower clocks for both clusters helps a lot.
the problem is, that in 5.x.x LITTLE.big SoCs aren't really optimized...so it will do much better with MM...and maybe when kernel devs are getting more knowledge about LITTLE.big so they could together tweak it more.
clsA said:
Sorry but these setting were pretty much worthless here. the default settings in the LeeDroid Kernel are much better. Freezing Google Play Services just screwed up my contact list and didn't do much else.
applied your settings (phone was at 97%) went to thanksgiving dinner at my sisters never picked up the phone but about 3 times and made 2 phone calls less than 10min each and used almost 57% of the battery in 4 hours. I typically use about 40% battery in a full 9 hour day at work.
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DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
freezing google play service breaks more then helps.. also stock settings are much better then any of these "powersaving " settings...actually amplify and greenify with donate app and xposed do help also a lot and using high accuracy mode for location.
but keeping the kernel settings at nearly stock, maybe just lower clocks for both clusters helps a lot.
the problem is, that in 5.x.x LITTLE.big SoCs aren't really optimized...so it will do much better with MM...and maybe when kernel devs are getting more knowledge about LITTLE.big so they could together tweak it more.
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Oops... I meant disabling wakelocks for google play services :silly:
This has only been tested on the stock kernel...
Kernel profiles are just useful if you use overload kernel for nougat or get adreno idler somehow.
Separate Colour profile amoled, night and day:
- just contents a display profile to set colour to vivid or night or an in between day setting
I now realized that phones really need many cores instead of my pc because running lots of cores at a small frequency is much better then less cores with high and heating frequencies,lol.
Fluidness of Game profile checked with pes manager at high def and regless racing 2, I know there is tougher gpu stuff out there, but ehm ah just forget about it
All thanx to Mr Renji for his wonderful highly recommended kernel and I don't think these settings would work this well without his optimizations.
Thx again, and again, and again to Mr. Daniel for almost making us feel like we had bought a bitcoin last year
I am also using high performance accu profile in settings, no need for me to change back and forth for good battery drain.
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Gaming: geekbench 1000/3400 antutu 69000
Additional settings:
One stepping is corrected from 79 to 150 mb in the final.zip!
:highfive: :victory: :laugh: :highfive: :victory: :laugh:
Profiles as seen above in profiles combo final zip.
If you need more power maybe first switch from hexa to octa core in cpu hotplug section :good:
For those who don't like changing profiles and with improved adreno settings: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75927595&postcount=44
Nice work dude. Keep going mate ?
Awesome settings bro my phone is not heating like a fireball on long hour gaming? I m using the gaming3 profile & syspro on normal usage getting good battery life kudos to ur work?
narenrao.rao7 said:
Awesome settings bro my phone is not heating like a fireball on long hour gaming I m using the gaming3 profile & syspro on normal usage getting good battery life kudos to ur work
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Thx, I'm keen on over, under and elsewhere clocking since nvidia 6800 LE.
Just give me some settings sliders
Edit: After all I can't believe what kind of a great performance and battery drain can be delivered with a 28nm cpu, with a good os and optimzations
Hi, can we apply these profiles to any kernel and any rom, or it is specific to overload??
nitesh_garg said:
Hi, can we apply these profiles to any kernel and any rom, or it is specific to overload??
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Hey, I think it is better than the standart frequency settings, overload does cpu undervolt and gives adreno idler, which is reducing msm adreno tz governor to very low gpu frequency in unused diplay moments... which seems to be very useful. Just if I understand erverything right
Added a vivid max display setting I am using for gaming in the beginning post. Happy X-Mas out there :good:
how i can upload these files to rom?
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how i can upload these files to rom?
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You can easily go to profiles and choose import instead of create in kernel adiutor.
They should contain just a few changes for cpu, cpu hotplug and gpu, no risk
FridrufHau said:
You can easily go to profiles and choose import instead of create in kernel adiutor.
They should contain just a few changes for cpu, cpu hotplug and gpu, no risk
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ok ,thanks for reply i try
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ok ,thanks for reply i try
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I now remember that you will have "problems" with system profile, because there is no relaxed governor for big cores usually (added by overload kernel) maybe you should choose on demand there, which should be a bit more energy saving than interactive... just guessing
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I now remember that you will have "problems" with system profile, because there is no relaxed governor for big cores usually (added by overload kernel) maybe you should choose on demand there, which should be a bit more energy saving than interactive... just guessing
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yes i flashed los 13 and overload 3.7.
I want to check how it will work. and how long on the battery.
How to use there settings, I am unable to import the files via EX kernel manager
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How to use there settings, I am unable to import the files via EX kernel manager
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u must use kernel adiutor
Bro why don't create a separate whatsapp group for this?Then it will be helpful for many users
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How to use there settings, I am unable to import the files via EX kernel manager
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I don't have used ex kernel m. already, maybe you are able to change the settings described in the beginning post and please also notice my post number 6 in this thread
kRahul9 said:
Bro why don't create a separate whatsapp group for this?Then it will be helpful for many users
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Lol because it would be annoying telling every new group member everything again and again maybe?
And on xda every post which is older then the last three gets ignored, which leads to the telling again and again, too.
No way out
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Lol because it would be annoying telling every new group member everything again and again maybe?
And on xda every post which is older then the last three gets ignored, which leads to the telling again and again, too.
No way out
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Oh but I am noob.I unable to understand the above post..so it could be better if you help me on social groups
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Oh but I am noob.I unable to understand the above post..so it could be better if you help me on social groups
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Just ask bro, it may help somebody else too. Try to describe as detailed as possible what you did and what is the problem now. Worst thing that can happen is to get ignored.
Nice One!
Trying it on illusionKernel v3.1 Final Beta xD
Which profile should I need to use to get 8hrs sot (As you mentioned)?