Two part question. KNOX and stock? - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

I've been way out of the loop on Android for a while and I'm just now getting back.
First of all, does flashing something that will get me KNOX mean anything if I don't care about my warranty and can I still flash custom ROMs as I please?
Once that's answered, I need an easy way to get back to a stock (Preferably rooted with TWRP) ROM so I can fix my data connection. I've tried a few ROMs so far but they all seem to be failing

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[Q] restoring stock recovery, rom, wiping root

Heya,
I need to returns my phone to as-purchased-state, which means if I am not missing anything - unroot, stock rom, stock recovery
I have rooted the phone, installed custom ROM (cloudy) and TWRP.
On my previous phone, samsung s2, the download mode had a flash counter that indicated how many times I flashed a rom.
On my LG G2, the download mode just says "rooted".
1) So where do I get a stock rom from?
2) Where do I get stock recovery?
3) How do I wipe any evidence of root?
4) In what order do I need to do everything?
I did google and came up with some of these answers, but I put my trust in XDA and hoping I won't f*ck my phone up by doing something in the wrong order.
Thanks!
Sorry this isn't an answer, but it might help you get an answer.
You may want to remove the part where you are admitting to warranty fraud.
Even though this is a hacking forum, people still disapprove of it.
Also, this might be what you're looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
PoOoZaQ said:
Heya,
I need to activate my phone guarantee and wondering what are the steps one might take in order for them to not void my guarantee.
I have rooted the phone, installed custom ROM (cloudy) and TWRP.
On my previous phone, samsung s2, the download mode had a flash counter that indicated how many times I flashed a rom.
On my LG G2, the download mode just says "rooted".
1) So where do I get a stock rom from?
2) Where do I get stock recovery?
3) How do I wipe any evidence of root?
4) In what order do I need to do everything?
I did google and came up with some of these answers, but I put my trust in XDA and hoping I won't f*ck my phone up by doing something in the wrong order.
Thanks!
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Use the kdz method to return to stock. Its in the dev forum. You need the drivers for your phone, the kdz firmware, lgflash tool. All can be found in the dev section.

N3 Screen No longer working, need to unroot

So I dropped my phone, and the display just doesn't work anymore. No picture, nothing.
I'm sending it back in as an insurance claim, and will be receiving a new phone, and am worried about the whole root / custom rom on it.
How should I go about wiping it and flashing back to a stock variant? Any ideas?
You triped Knox and no way you can undo it.
KNOX????
themrzoo said:
So I dropped my phone, and the display just doesn't work anymore. No picture, nothing.
I'm sending it back in as an insurance claim, and will be receiving a new phone, and am worried about the whole root / custom rom on it.
How should I go about wiping it and flashing back to a stock variant? Any ideas?
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I know there's a way to root without tripping Knox.
But a custom ROM????
Easiest way is to get into download mode (using volume keys) and flash via Odin. (you just need to know the key combinations)
But in this case, I've no idea about Knox though!

Need a little confirmation....

Hi all,
It's been a few yrs since I've flashed a phone (the last being my SGS1 variant) and I'm very out of practice. That being said, I just need a little help in understanding how to flash my SGS4. So far, I've had this phone for yrs and I would've jumped to custom roms as I did normally but there was the whole KNOX debacle and I didn't want to do anything to damage my phone - while within warranty. I've been out of the loop for awhile, so I need a little help in my choices here.
My phone is still running on it's original software (that's right, I completely haven't updated in yrs), so it's a 4.2.2 and the build is I9505XXUBM4 (pre-KNOX). If I am going to root, I was thinking that I should use the method from this thread: [GT-I9505 + GT-I9505G] CF-Auto-Root. Would I be right in using this method or is there something better?
Secondly, I've only ever used CWM. I'm assuming the recovery to use currently is TWRP since I've seen it brought up in a good number of threads. Can I make a nandroid with TWRP the same way it was done with CWM or do I need to find another way to backup my data?
Lastly, this is the rom I'm leaning towards; [JDCTeam][6.0.1][9 July] The Android Open Source Project MOB30M. Could I just flash this on top of my stock or do I have to update first and then flash this?
TIA for your responses.
Oniyuri said:
Hi all,
It's been a few yrs since I've flashed a phone (the last being my SGS1 variant) and I'm very out of practice. That being said, I just need a little help in understanding how to flash my SGS4. So far, I've had this phone for yrs and I would've jumped to custom roms as I did normally but there was the whole KNOX debacle and I didn't want to do anything to damage my phone - while within warranty. I've been out of the loop for awhile, so I need a little help in my choices here.
My phone is still running on it's original software (that's right, I completely haven't updated in yrs), so it's a 4.2.2 and the build is I9505XXUBM4 (pre-KNOX). If I am going to root, I was thinking that I should use the method from this thread: [GT-I9505 + GT-I9505G] CF-Auto-Root. Would I be right in using this method or is there something better?
Secondly, I've only ever used CWM. I'm assuming the recovery to use currently is TWRP since I've seen it brought up in a good number of threads. Can I make a nandroid with TWRP the same way it was done with CWM or do I need to find another way to backup my data?
Lastly, this is the rom I'm leaning towards; [JDCTeam][6.0.1][9 July] The Android Open Source Project MOB30M. Could I just flash this on top of my stock or do I have to update first and then flash this?
TIA for your responses.
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For first you MUST update your phone, if you have root, update with odin on the latest firmware version and then flash flash recovery(cwm, twrp, philz) and flash the rom, because firmware request of the rom is android lollipop stock. Try cyanogenmod 13 nighty for this smartphone
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For first you MUST update your phone, if you have root, update with odin on the latest firmware version and then flash flash recovery(cwm, twrp, philz) and flash the rom, because firmware request of the rom is android lollipop stock. Try cyanogenmod 13 nighty for this smartphone
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Ok, so after I root the phone, can I go straight onto CM13 or do I still have to get lollipop first and then flash CM?
I'm still trying to avoid getting KNOX on the phone.
Oniyuri said:
Ok, so after I root the phone, can I go straight onto CM13 or do I still have to get lollipop first and then flash CM?
I'm still trying to avoid getting KNOX on the phone.
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Then you install lollipop stock, make root , flash recovery and then flash cm13
Oniyuri said:
Ok, so after I root the phone, can I go straight onto CM13 or do I still have to get lollipop first and then flash CM?
I'm still trying to avoid getting KNOX on the phone.
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Knox does matter once you're on a custom ROM.
Most content creators recommend to use the latest modem and bootloader in order to avoid problems.
You don't necessarily have to update the whole ROM to have the newest modem and bootloader, there are Odin flashable packages.
I don't know if CF-Auto-Root works with 4.2. I know it works for 4.4 and above.
As long as you do your wipes (this means system, data, cache, dalvik) you can flash anything over anything.
Yes, you can do nandroid backups, but TWRP and CWM backups are not compatible with each other. Also, TWRP has a problem with TouchWiz backups, meaning you can make and restore a TouchWiz backup, but it either won't boot or will give you lots of errors.
GDReaper said:
Knox does matter once you're on a custom ROM.
Most content creators recommend to use the latest modem and bootloader in order to avoid problems.
You don't necessarily have to update the whole ROM to have the newest modem and bootloader, there are Odin flashable packages.
I don't know if CF-Auto-Root works with 4.2. I know it works for 4.4 and above.
As long as you do your wipes (this means system, data, cache, dalvik) you can flash anything over anything.
Yes, you can do nandroid backups, but TWRP and CWM backups are not compatible with each other. Also, TWRP has a problem with TouchWiz backups, meaning you can make and restore a TouchWiz backup, but it either won't boot or will give you lots of errors.
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Ok, so is there a way that I could at least get to lollipop w/o getting KNOX and have a nandroid that would work or should I just OTA all the way up to current and then root and flash?
Oniyuri said:
Ok, so is there a way that I could at least get to lollipop w/o getting KNOX and have a nandroid that would work or should I just OTA all the way up to current and then root and flash?
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Why are you so obsessed with Knox? I just told you that it won't be an issue on custom ROMs. There is no knox on custom ROMs. Knox is a Samsung thing. So, unless you plan on staying stock, there is no reason to be concerned about it. Even if you stay stock, there still is no reason to be afraid of it, it's just some security crap, and it won't affect you in any way. Why are you so afraid of it?
My device came with Knox pre-installed and it didn't do jack.
Just update if you want to update or flash a recovery (flashing custom ROMs doesn't require root, just a custom recovery) and flash your desired ROM.
GDReaper said:
Why are you so obsessed with Knox? I just told you that it won't be an issue on custom ROMs. There is no knox on custom ROMs. Knox is a Samsung thing. So, unless you plan on staying stock, there is no reason to be concerned about it. Even if you stay stock, there still is no reason to be afraid of it, it's just some security crap, and it won't affect you in any way. Why are you so afraid of it?
My device came with Knox pre-installed and it didn't do jack.
Just update if you want to update or flash a recovery (flashing custom ROMs doesn't require root, just a custom recovery) and flash your desired ROM.
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Well, I've been out of the loop for a while (the last time I was active was circa late 2013/ early 2014), but I do remember there was a lot of concern regarding warranty and the flags. I do admit that there was a lot of speculation from losing a section of memory from tripping the flag to actually burning the motherboard. I originally decided to wait until the dust settled but life took over and I ended up only sporadically checking the forums before disappearing for long periods of time. I actually don't know what the end of the story is to be honest.
Oniyuri said:
Well, I've been out of the loop for a while (the last time I was active was circa late 2013/ early 2014), but I do remember there was a lot of concern regarding warranty and the flags. I do admit that there was a lot of speculation from losing a section of memory from tripping the flag to actually burning the motherboard. I originally decided to wait until the dust settled but life took over and I ended up only sporadically checking the forums before disappearing for long periods of time. I actually don't know what the end of the story is to be honest.
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The only concern is about the warranty. Since your phone is some years old, I doubt that is an issue for you anymore.
By losing memory you mean losing data or actually losing storage space?
Either way, I haven't heard of anyone with such a problem around here.
Nor about somebody with a fried motherboard.
There might have been some unfortunate cases, but this is to be expected when you modify your device. There always is a risk of damage, it doesn't matter if it's by rooting or by flashing a ROM.
I meant lose storage. As I understood it, KNOX worked like a container and once the flag was tripped, you'd lose whatever it contained - as in never being able to access that bit ever again.
Oniyuri said:
I meant lose storage. As I understood it, KNOX worked like a container and once the flag was tripped, you'd lose whatever it contained - as in never being able to access that bit ever again.
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You have to use the knox app first for that to even be considered a risk.
Knox will not put anything in that container without user input.
GDReaper said:
You have to use the knox app first for that to even be considered a risk.
Knox will not put anything in that container without user input.
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Ok, so to get the steps straight:
1. I'd need to get a lollipop bootloader & modem
2. root + nandroid (CWM) + titanium for app data (non-system app data)
3. change recovery to TWRP
4. flash rom + gapps
....and then I should be ready to go, correct?
Oniyuri said:
Ok, so to get the steps straight:
1. I'd need to get a lollipop bootloader & modem
2. root + nandroid (CWM) + titanium for app data (non-system app data)
3. change recovery to TWRP
4. flash rom + gapps
....and then I should be ready to go, correct?
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1) Is not mandatory, it's just recommended. The only exception is if your device is a Verizon or AT&T phone, then don't - and I repeat - don't update or you risk losing the possibility of any custom ROM flashing or rooting due to the locked bootloaders.
2) and 3) CWM and TWRP backups do not have cross-compatibility. If you backup with CWM you have to restore with CWM.
Please tell me you haven't flashed anything yet. I can help with the entirety of the procedure.
robcore said:
Please tell me you haven't flashed anything yet. I can help with the entirety of the procedure.
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No I haven't done anything yet. I found something else to occupy me for the last few nights - a chromecast that seems to hate me.
Oniyuri said:
No I haven't done anything yet. I found something else to occupy me for the last few nights - a chromecast that seems to hate me.
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Haha I hear ya. I've been building a kernel for about a year now and finally (knock on wood) arrived at something I'm happy with. Lesson learned, electronics are definitely conspiring against us.
That said, please feel free to pm me when you're ready for the flashing process. Though it's a silly skill, it's become second nature to me and something about your situation flipped a helpful switch in me : P what's the Chromecast like?
robcore said:
Haha I hear ya. I've been building a kernel for about a year now and finally (knock on wood) arrived at something I'm happy with. Lesson learned, electronics are definitely conspiring against us.
That said, please feel free to pm me when you're ready for the flashing process. Though it's a silly skill, it's become second nature to me and something about your situation flipped a helpful switch in me : P what's the Chromecast like?
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Well, so far, the chromecast is only plugged into my tv and basically did the setup by itself only for the google cast app on my phone to not recognize it when it said that it's ready to cast. I've ran out of things to do aside from going to the google forums (which I've already done). I'm starting to wonder if it's my phone that's causing all the issues.

Custom status after failed root

Hi guys, I tried to root my note 4 a couple of months ago with a one touch root app, I know it was stupid and I usually don't trust stuff like that but I thought I'd have a crack. The root attempt failed and my device kept functioning as normal so I didn't really give it a second thought, until I just realized yesterday that my phone should have updated to Melbourne by now and it hasn't, so I checked the status and sure enough it had been changed to custom. I also noticed that every time I boot into recovery it briefly says that it is updating, then says the update failed before coming up with the usual recovery menu. Is there a simple way to get back to official and get the update without wiping my device? It is not rooted, stock os and stock recovery, thanks for any help, it won't matter too much soon as I have pre ordered a note 7, but it would be nice to sort it out anyway.
since the status is already "custom", why not try root it using CF autoroot?
or if you still not sure, why not flash a stock rom using odin?
Thanks for the reply cacingbesar, I'd like to stay stock and get OTA updates, is it possible to odin flash a stock rom without rooting or wiping my phone and get official status and OTA updates back?
dicko101 said:
Thanks for the reply cacingbesar, I'd like to stay stock and get OTA updates, is it possible to odin flash a stock rom without rooting or wiping my phone and get official status and OTA updates back?
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here is the problem : your device status is already CUSTOM.
correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesnt mean that you are using a custom ROM, its your knox that is tripped.
and because of that status, you cant get OTA.
staying with stock ROM is fine, but since knox already tripped and you cant get OTA, why not root it? optimize your phone the way you want.
or go custom ROM if you interested.
again.....correct me if I'm wrong, since I'm not a pro in this matter.

Need to return phone to original state..

Hey!
Sad to say that my trusty Note 4 which ive had since its release is being traded in for a shiney new Note 9. I got £200 as a trade in with samsung..but it clearly states that the phone must not be unlocked or tampered with..just wondering if anyone could advise me on how to return the phone so that no one will know that i unlocked it? Many thxs! ?
Afraid that the 0x1 knox will never go back to 0x0. As for the stock software, yes, it's possible to flash it with Odin.
I'm going to assume that by unlocking, you mean that you've rooted and possibly installed a custom ROM. You can revert back to stock by flashing a stock firmware with Odin, but unfortunately there's no way to reset the Knox warranty bit you triggered by booting a custom recovery and/or kernel, back to 0x0 (which is very likely to be what they will be looking at).

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