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When wil the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012 edition) receive the Android 4.3 update

It is very quiet around the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012 edition) has become since the new N8010 Note 10.1 (2014 edition) has come out. Everywhere you read what Tablets receive updates and what not. However, if you read anything about the Galaxy Note 10.1 N8010. Therefore my question: Does he get an update to Android 4.3 and here is a timeline of known. Thanks for the effort taken by you.
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wappiesoft said:
It is very quiet around the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012 edition) has become since the new N8010 Note 10.1 (2014 edition) has come out. Everywhere you read what Tablets receive updates and what not. However, if you read anything about the Galaxy Note 10.1 N8010. Therefore my question: Does he get an update to Android 4.3 and here is a timeline of known. Thanks for the effort taken by you.
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There was a news sometimes ago.
We will get 4.3 around novermber or december

Edris89 said:
There was a news sometimes ago.
We will get 4.3 around novermber or december
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good news :thumbup:
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Edris89 said:
There was a news sometimes ago.
We will get 4.3 around novermber or december
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I hope so!

Edris89 said:
There was a news sometimes ago.
We will get 4.3 around novermber or december
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Source?
Anyway, our tablet getting 4.3 makes sense since Samsung wants more of their devices to be compatible with their Galaxy Gear. kcrudup said in a thread I made yesterday that our tablet already has Trim, so I'm not sure what significant benefits we really get from 4.3.

Trim
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Edris89 said:
There was a news sometimes ago.
We will get 4.3 around novermber or december
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source please?

I cant believe how laggy Samsung has been with the updates already. My wife's Note 2, still 4.1, my note 10.1, 4.1. My T-Mobile S4 still has the old 4.2 without aps2sd, that every other major network player got months ago. Just ridiculous. Ive since sold my S4, but with Samsung missing entire versions of updates on their hardware, I have to rethink purchasing from them again.

stevessvt said:
I cant believe how laggy Samsung has been with the updates already. My wife's Note 2, still 4.1, my note 10.1, 4.1. My T-Mobile S4 still has the old 4.2 without aps2sd, that every other major network player got months ago. Just ridiculous. Ive since sold my S4, but with Samsung missing entire versions of updates on their hardware, I have to rethink purchasing from them again.
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I have the tmobile s4 and the lack of apps2sd update is tmobile not samsung, samsung released the update which is why every other carrier updated just not tmobile.
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If it wasnt for the lack of lte I would double think about not getting international versions of phones.
Stupid carriers suck
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I thought this was a tablet Forum!
RotaryXperiment7 said:
If it wasnt for the lack of lte I would double think about not getting international versions of phones.
Stupid carriers suck
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My opinion is that Samsung is the best OEM for updating its phones. Still no where near the Nexus(not even close) far cry better than let's say HTC. Kinda sucks the note 2 still on 4.1.2 but we are said to get 4.3 and I bet you we will get 4.4 and maybe even 4.5/5.0.
My opinion is the note features out weight 4.3. My biggest complaint is that touchwiz looks ugly compared to the s4 which IMO looks awesome. Oh well gotta love the spen. If Nexus were to make a wacom note sized tablet and added support for spen like stylus be all over it. Doubt it though unless Google and Samsung make Google edition note 3. Then again it would probably be 750+ unsubsidized lol
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God I hope this tablet gets updated because spen is crucial to this tablet. So far I haven't found q good alternative to snotes
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md1008 said:
My opinion is that Samsung is the best OEM for updating its phones. Still no where near the Nexus(not even close) far cry better than let's say HTC. ....
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Not so much this time. The HTC One on Sprint and AT&T already got 4.3, and HTC has officially announced that T-Mobile will get it this week.

my guess is december or next year even.
S4 has just received the official 4.3 update today and S3 will be the next in line.. the note2 is expected to get it by December so the note 10.1 will probably get it at the same time or after..

md1008 said:
Oh well gotta love the spen. If Nexus were to make a wacom note sized tablet and added support for spen like stylus be all over it. Doubt it though unless Google and Samsung make Google edition note 3. Then again it would probably be 750+ unsubsidized lol
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The Google Edition Note 3 is coming on Verizon. It is already on Samsung's site.
The Now 10.1 really should get the update sooner than December. Especially the WiFi edition. It's probably coming pretty soon. Sooner than we expect it.
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sbrownla said:
The Google Edition Note 3 is coming on Verizon. It is already on Samsung's site.
The Now 10.1 really should get the update sooner than December. Especially the WiFi edition. It's probably coming pretty soon. Sooner than we expect it.
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It's not the google edition its a developer edition. BIG difference.

elzeus said:
It's not the google edition its a developer edition. BIG difference.
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Okay so it gets an official stock Android ROM (zzzzz) update early ... My bad. I forgot whixh was whoch between all of the editions and Android versions and niche devices ... /embarrassed
I just can't conceive of a reason anyone would want stock Android on a device like the Note 3? Or any Note for that matter? Just get a Nexus? The stylus and software features will be gone! Isn't that what the Note is about?
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Hope we get it soon! Or they are loosing their customers... I already was buying Sony Smartwatch 2 because Samsung says nothing when they update (or not) Note 10.1. Gear wont work until we have 4.3 inside our devices. I quess I will wait a week or two and if there is no news about 10.1 and Android 4.3, then I get Sonys Smartwatch2. Samsung should know that we of all need that update as soon as possible to get Gear working. We are keeping our Notes in bags!!! Why the hell Samsung is thinking that people who wear their phones in pockets need so badly Gear that Samsung updates their devices before our huge Notes?? Ridiculous!
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http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4864...evices-confirmed-android-5-0.htm#.UmFAk6JmhcY
Samsung confirmed five devices from the Galaxy line to immediately get Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie updates according to insider's information. The five are the Galaxy S3, Galaxy S4, Galaxy Note 2, Galaxy Note 8.0 and Galaxy Note 10.1.
http://www.androidauthority.com/and...laxy-s2-note-android-4-2-2-jelly-bean-173132/
According to this “first pre-list about upcoming Android updates” for Galaxy phones only five Samsung devices from the company’s current lineup will get KLP including the Galaxy S4, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2, Galaxy Note 8.0 and Galaxy Note 10.1

acke999 said:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4864...evices-confirmed-android-5-0.htm#.UmFAk6JmhcY
Samsung confirmed five devices from the Galaxy line to immediately get Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie updates according to insider's information. The five are the Galaxy S3, Galaxy S4, Galaxy Note 2, Galaxy Note 8.0 and Galaxy Note 10.1.
http://www.androidauthority.com/and...laxy-s2-note-android-4-2-2-jelly-bean-173132/
According to this “first pre-list about upcoming Android updates” for Galaxy phones only five Samsung devices from the company’s current lineup will get KLP including the Galaxy S4, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2, Galaxy Note 8.0 and Galaxy Note 10.1
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Ok first off, those articles are from March and July, before the real name and version of the next release was announced. Second, just because Samsung said that back then, does not mean the official announcement hasn't changed things. I for one could care less. I love my tablet, with or without 4.3 and beyond. On my phone, different story, but I can still wait. Last time I got excited for an update was my atrix 4g and 3 days before Motorola had confirmed it would happen, they changed their mind and cancelled it. So I take news of updates with a grain of salt and a "if it happens, great, if not oh well" attitude.

Samsung. .please Give us 4.4 with the new UI

I know that Sammy guys lurk here around and since there is no new 8 inch note. Pro ..
I wish Samsung would update the n5100 with kit kat directly with the new UI. ..
Please Samsung. . Give us the update
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According to me Samsung will release 4.4 to 8.0 because the note:
- They want to force the customer to buy new equipment
4.4'll get if you come later android.
Here in Poland we have not yet even 4.2.2

pakure said:
I know that Sammy guys lurk here around and since there is no new 8 inch note. Pro ..
I wish Samsung would update the n5100 with kit kat directly with the new UI. ..
Please Samsung. . Give us the update
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There wont be any update to NOTE 8 from SAMSUNG - even 4.3 will not happen. Sad but true - NOTE 8 is sold out, hardly available on some markets already, popularitiy of N8 is weaker than original first NOTE 10,1 which also got till 4.1.2 only - and is also dead for SAMSUNG already.

You would think that Samsung would at least give us 4.3 for the smart watch integration. I thought that's why they pushed out the updates for the S3 and the Note 2.

Take matters into your own hands! CM 11 ~ Android 4.4.2
Samsung does not provide an update for Polish .. And I thought that Samsung is more concerned about the updates ..

If note 8 is obsolete. Why is there a no 8 inch note pro version?..
I think the 8.4 pro version would be the most sold of the 4 new tablets announced
I believe we should get atleast 4.3 with trim and gear support. .. More useful for the n5100 with phone capabilities than a note 3 or s4
I don't care if they don't release update for a particular country as long as you can flash another country update using Odin
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Not that any of the chit-chat in here is going to make any difference of what Samsung has already planned but imo, i guess this is the end of the line for note 8, as much as we all would like to think it isn't, even if it's way too early but oh well ... note 10.1 had 4.1.2 as the end of it's line, long dropped when it could've support all the newer android versions but it's all about marketing * forthe 2014 edition one*, so i guess we're waiting for almost a miracle to get 4.3 or jump to 4.4 according to samsung's policy, the only hope is that there isn't a newer note except that freaking large 12.2 or the bit older note 10.1 (2014) edition
i know i could easily flash any of the avaliable custom roms but touchwiz as much as most of us hate it is loaded with cool features "even if most of the time aren't used* that is missed on stock android

I got my 8.0 as a gift from the wife which is carrier based so I am on 4.1.2 and it don't seem like At&t will update any android tablets at all especially Samsung since it seems they rip apart the updates anyway and take away key features like galaxy gear support and Knox container.
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pakure said:
Please Samsung. . Give us the update
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I understand that wish, but the chance that we get this ****ty KNOX or Region Lock with 4.3/4.4 is very high, so no, please no update

On the news of GSMArena i read that note 8 will update to android 5 and after that possibility.
But i disappointed with samsung about updates...
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flymacs said:
You would think that Samsung would at least give us 4.3 for the smart watch integration. I thought that's why they pushed out the updates for the S3 and the Note 2.
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If they cared about Note 8 device itself, they would already launch an update together with Note 2/S3 in order to get more possible GEAR buyers. I quess for that price they were selling N8 - sold qtys were too small to keep Samsung maintaining this device at fresh state. S3/N2 sold milions so possible customer base for GEAR was much higher - therefore the rush. With the army of new 2014 tablets, if N8 will get 4.3 we could be happy - but do not expect any new software (S-NOTE ot that new UI from them). We will just get old software base same as N2 got with 4,3 update - it hasnt new Snote officially like N3, (but it is possible to run - thats another story.)
I am also going back to 4.1.2 - some quirks that they disabled in 4.2.2 update make me not more happy than lockscreen widgets - so i am reverting back also because of TabletUi. And already searching for 8" Windows 8 tablet - as soon as ASUS Note8 will be out, i might get it if there will be 3G version (but doesnt have hdmi, pity). I wont buy any other Android tablet anymore - i still need more desktop to use, 3G and JumpDesktop via RDP to my server makes Note8 perfect companion, but it will be better to run my programs natively on the go and i can ditch S-Note app to full MS ONE NOTE and full Excel layout compatibility with my customers.

If samsung didn't provide an 4.4 update for the note 8 thise will be the last samsung device i'll buy n i don't wanna hear some hardware **** compatibility i've had enough from the frist galaxy

So say goodbye to your galaxy, because we will not see any more updates past 4.2.2.

ianbbaa said:
If they cared about Note 8 device itself, they would already launch an update together with Note 2/S3 in order to get more possible GEAR buyers. I quess for that price they were selling N8 - sold qtys were too small to keep Samsung maintaining this device at fresh state. S3/N2 sold milions so possible customer base for GEAR was much higher - therefore the rush. With the army of new 2014 tablets, if N8 will get 4.3 we could be happy - but do not expect any new software (S-NOTE ot that new UI from them). We will just get old software base same as N2 got with 4,3 update - it hasnt new Snote officially like N3, (but it is possible to run - thats another story.)
I am also going back to 4.1.2 - some quirks that they disabled in 4.2.2 update make me not more happy than lockscreen widgets - so i am reverting back also because of TabletUi. And already searching for 8" Windows 8 tablet - as soon as ASUS Note8 will be out, i might get it if there will be 3G version (but doesnt have hdmi, pity). I wont buy any other Android tablet anymore - i still need more desktop to use, 3G and JumpDesktop via RDP to my server makes Note8 perfect companion, but it will be better to run my programs natively on the go and i can ditch S-Note app to full MS ONE NOTE and full Excel layout compatibility with my customers.
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Have you tried Civato's 4.2.2? Been my DD for a while now and does quite well for me. VNC works well to work laptop so connection has been smooth.
As far as Win8 goes I've been running the Dell Venue Pro 8 (64Gb on board and 64Gb uSD) for a couple months and must say Dell did this right. Odd size 8.3 screen so cases and protectors a challenge. Great screen, very snappy processor and overall a great buy. (got mine for $320) You might want to look at it.

aben2amu said:
So say goodbye to your galaxy, because we will not see any more updates past 4.2.2.
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A big reason why I didn't care as much for the unveiled TabXPros they launched. They aren't supporting the tablet they overcharged for last spring, why should I buy another tablet from them?
And I was mulling the GPe G-Pad and the N8.4Pro, easier decision now.

Zaybatzu said:
Take matters into your own hands! CM 11 ~ Android 4.4.2
Samsung does not provide an update for Polish .. And I thought that Samsung is more concerned about the updates ..
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Remember that flashing CM 11 (Android 4.4.2) you will loose several of S-Pen/Note features. I know, like myself, many bought this tablet because of S-Pen/Note features...

jazzespresso said:
Remember that flashing CM 11 (Android 4.4.2) you will loose several of S-Pen/Note features. I know, like myself, many bought this tablet because of S-Pen/Note features...
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Install GMD and some from the many good note apps (like papyrus) and you will never go back to Stock

Dexxmor said:
Install GMD and some from the many good note apps (like papyrus) and you will never go back to Stock
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what, if you watched some of CES 2014 presentations, Samsung bring with new 4.4 UI that never going to make it to CM 11. Don't take me wrong I love what CM does, but i have love and hate relationship with Samsung and its flagship UI (TouchWiz, or new UI called Magazine UI)...
In addition, there's, as far as I can see, no stable CM 11 version for Note 8, except BeanStalk 4.3's CM based ROM, but still nothing officially supported. if you check Note 8 developer section, you will see there's not a lot of development going on for our note 8 tablet.
unless some brave developer(s) jump in and port Note 3 4.3 stock ROM to our Note 8.0

@sbrissen doing a great job with Official CM, so one Developer is there @civato for a stockbased ROM, two developer are here @ryukiri make OMNI for us, in future (when this odd storage problem is fixxed) OMNI is Official.
Offcource there are more Devs, great Devs, but this Three are the popular in the Note 8 Section (since i am lurking here )
A port from the Note 3 is really, really bad ass hard work. You musst port them over from Quallcomm to Exynos, thats really hard. So don't expect this.
The only thing i missed is a Custom Kernel like civatos for CM

Dexxmor said:
@sbrissen doing a great job with Official CM, so one Developer is there @civato for a stockbased ROM, two developer are here @ryukiri make OMNI for us, in future (when this odd storage problem is fixxed) OMNI is Official.
Offcource there are more Devs, great Devs, but this Three are the popular in the Note 8 Section (since i am lurking here )
A port from the Note 3 is really, really bad ass hard work. You musst port them over from Quallcomm to Exynos, thats really hard. So don't expect this.
The only thing i missed is a Custom Kernel like civatos for CM
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I'm willing to attempt to make a custom kernel this summer when I have more free time. Right now, I'm super pressed on time due to loads of school work, tests, and stuff.
And to clarify some confusion, Omni IS official for us right now, just no nightlies yet as I'm still working on adding support in the kernel. Also, PAC 4.4 will be official when everything is ready. (We're all working to add new features and stabilizing stuff to give you guys the best possible experience).

Any rumours about plans to get android 5.0

Hey guys , I know that we are hardly getting kitkat for our Devices. So now would be the question , will we get 5.0 ? So body read anything about this topic ?
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Hey guys , I know that we are hardly getting kitkat for our Devices. So now would be the question , will we get 5.0 ? So body read anything about this topic ?
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Lol..If you are waiting for Lollipop on this....You will be left behind......
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Android Laxative underways. There has been too much candy

Samsung has abandoned this tablet. Get over it.
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Yes.
Probably in some custom rom based on it.
Yes.
Samsung since the beginning didn't take care about SM-P60x. They could crush IPAD Air with just few tv commercials but they decided to not to do it. And there is few of us who are still amazed by possibilities and disappointed by product support....
If my friend would not buy it I would go for Ipad Air since I believed it is the best tablet on the market or I would buy Sony Xperia z2 tablet since Sony pays extra cash to most of tablet orientated sites to shout that it is no1 tablet with Android system..buahahahaha...
Still they released 4.4.2 XEO yesterday and I am so far happy with new changes which makes it more useful(adding more multiwindow apps and profiles). Wish they made more schemes to SNote and work more on changing hand writing to text function so it will work better and more professional, but I do not believe that they will do anything more for our Note
Best Regards.

Thanks everybody....

Lympe said:
Samsung has abandoned this tablet. Get over it.
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Yup sad but true hence Samsung ain't ganna be getting my money in the future. And anyone I know lol.

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I know that we are hardly getting kitkat for our Devices.
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What do you mean "do not get"? What's this?
For 601 - http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-P601
For 600 - http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-P600
For 605 - http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-P605

Android devices updates windows is 18 months. So Android 5.0 will come to Note 2014 too. Just need to wait very long time before get it.

@Nik_SV in EU as far as I can tell only Spain has KitKat and since @Hudrator is from Germany he doesnt have KitKat nor do I in the UK.
So he is right we (in Europe) are hardly getting KitKat at the min.
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What do you mean "do not get"? What's this?
For 601 - http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-P601
For 600 - http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-P600
For 605 - http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-P605
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Where is the ****ing kiktat update? Nothing here in Netherland.

oMaRcO said:
Where is the ****ing kiktat update? Nothing here in Netherland.
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Hahaha yeah same in UK mate, I've given up expecting it tbh.
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Important for you to wait for the update OTA? What prevents flash firmware to another region through Odin? All firmware is multi-language.

dt33 said:
Android devices updates windows is 18 months. So Android 5.0 will come to Note 2014 too. Just need to wait very long time before get it.
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What he said. If my sprint tab3 got kitkat this will def get L

But guys, the tablet isn't even one year old and it is a premium one, not any cheap device from Samsung. I am a little bit worried since it doesn't belong to PRO series but it still has 2014 in its name, it doesn't mean a lot but... Anyway, I honestly think we are gonna get it but arround december or only janaury.
My biggest fear is that only LTE version has cyanogenmod and 3G and Wifi version don't have it.

If it makes anyone feels better .I have had this tab since launch last year...Still on 4.3jb rooted and love it.....Kit Kat sucks ...
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I've upgraded to 4.4.2 few days ago and I love it. Finally more apps in multiwindow option and profiles which are very useful for me. Still there is no additional templates to SNote but I can live without it. Hope they will add more one day.
Main problem is that Samsung did not use full potential of this tablet and did not put any marketing effort to make it more popular. This is why we are afraid that just like with accessories we will not be getting more system updates.

Nexus 6 plus 8/9 for me. Out goes 10.1 aand S4.
Samsung have lost he plot :cyclops:

thomlh said:
Nexus 6 plus 8/9 for me. Out goes 10.1 aand S4.
Samsung have lost he plot :cyclops:
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The Note-series is and always has been about creation and productivity. Good luck trying to replicate that on a Nexus device. Many people here bought the N10.1-14 for consumption which really undersells its value, uniqueness, and potential. To each their own.
The N10.1-14, Pro's, and S' all use the same h/w and with the exception of M-UX being omitted on the N10.1-14 similar s/w. The S' will most likely get 5.0 first. It wouldn't be hard to port the code to the Pro's and N10.1-14 shortly thereafter. With 4.4 having been rolled out months ago for the N10.1-14 and N10.1-12 it's hard to believe some regions are still on 4.3. But it's hard to believe the almost two-year old N10.1-12 got 4.4 at all. So who knows what any specific device will get or when. My personal guess is that the N10.1-14 will get 5.0 primarily because of its commonality with other device definitely getting it. Timing? Who know. Time will tell.

7 mths old and still no 4.4.3/4.4.4

So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?

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So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.

is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.

Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.

As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...

A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.

Act of good faith
BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.

There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?

weiguxp said:
The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.

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Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.

My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.

Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...

I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.

I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14)
I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE

Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?

Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).

I give up. Time to get rid of the Note Pro

I really liked the size of this tablet and thought that Samsung would at least keep the software updated for a little longer than they did.
No new version, seems like they made the new version for Windows OS only.
I gave up and got a Tab S3, maybe one day Samsung will make another larger Android tablet.
Until then, my pristine Note Pro is heading for swappa.

You are going to get rid of your 'pristine Note Pro' just because the OS isn't updated? I don't get it. I can use mine for a lot of productivity apps even though it isn't being updated to the latest OS version.

You might consider installing a rom from here like Lineage and getting full Nougat, changed the entire experience, and on a par with my wife's iPad Pro now. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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You do realize Google's contracts with manufacturers only last 2 years? The only devices that are updated after two years are Pixels and Apple. The NotePro is 3 years old. The contract for the updates ended 12 months ago.
I have never understood this obsession people have with updates. What, does the device stop working when it doesn't get a new update?
I'm a massive fan of 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it.'
My NotePro is on P905XXUANC3/P905DBTANC3. March 2014, 4.4.2.
My Note 3 is still on the very stable N9005XXUENB7/N9005DBTENB2. February 2014, 4.4.2.
I have absolutely no desire to update my device at the risk of reduced battery life, bugs and issues. And before anyone goes "That doesn't happen", the Bluetooth issues with 5.0 most definitely did happen. It works perfectly, why the hell would I compromise that?
I hear this nonsense a lot. "I want to end my contract because you haven't updated yet!" "I'm never buying a Samsung again because the phone wasn't updated 4 years after it came out!" Last week someone was whining about how it was fraud that his S3 didn't get Nougat.(!) The only thing missing is stomping feet and holding breath.

People can do what they want with their own devices. I love updates, but won't whine when I don't get them. My Note Pro is running Lineage and is running like a new device. I have no issues. I also had no issues on the stock ROM and would not consider my productivity in jeopardy because I don't have the latest updates. I do agree that some are a little more emotional about such things than seems reasonable. I don't see how a devices usefulness is reduced because of the lack of updates.

I agree. Although I would like to see some security updates to protect me from the bad guys.

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You do realize Google's contracts with manufacturers only last 2 years? The only devices that are updated after two years are Pixels and Apple. The NotePro is 3 years old. The contract for the updates ended 12 months ago.
I have never understood this obsession people have with updates. What, does the device stop working when it doesn't get a new update?
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Obsession? Stop posting such nonsense. Samsung stopped issuing updates for what used to be their highend device after a year and a half. And that is really disappointing. Especially when the device was still being sold long after that.

One thing i will add is that most devices are designed to run optimally when they are released on the os of the initial release. Even further updates by the manufacturer invariably compromise the performance of the device.
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One thing i will add is that most devices are designed to run optimally when they are released on the os of the initial release. Even further updates by the manufacturer invariably compromise the performance of the device.
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Not according to my experience with Tab 2 7.0, Tab 3 8.0 and S4. I have updated them all to the latest LineageOS and they all perform better than when they were new. The reason they don't update their devices is obvious, it costs money, and they want people to buy new devices.

To me, as a junkie for custom Android versions, I find the lack of a Samsung update untroubling. Currently I'm running a version of marshmallow hacked from the Samsung tab s2 by @bonuzzz to run on this. Works a charm and runs apps such as soundcamp that make this baby seem new.
And... I note there's an android 7 just being released for the above tablet... so maybe bonuzzz or someone else will port it over for us as well.
It's a good time to own one of these babies from my point of view.

ShadowLea said:
I'm a massive fan of 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it.'
My NotePro is on P905XXUANC3/P905DBTANC3. March 2014, 4.4.2.
My Note 3 is still on the very stable N9005XXUENB7/N9005DBTENB2. February 2014, 4.4.2.
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The "don't fix it if it ain't broken" idea here is totally irrelevant. People don't want to update because it is broken but because they want the new functionalities!! NotePro is not just a random low level tablet, it's an excellent one and it should have at least been updated to Android 6.

First of all my notepro runs on stock 5.02 from samsung.. And it is still working like a charm.. The problem I have now is that I am starting to run out of storage space and 5.02 has the stupid implementation of the extended storage also being the internal storage, not the SD. So a lot of apps don't install the huge data on SD but also internal.. And Samsung comes with too much bloatware that is also only getting bigger after each update..
So after a lot of years I see myself forced now to do one out of 2 things:
1. Get root and delete a lot of samsung bs apps
2. install a totally different rom
what would you advise?

Any one of those (1. or 2.) can and will brick something that you used to use. Most likely the S-pen functions. But there are other horror stories out their about doing what you want to do and the user finding a problem later.

admisi said:
You might consider installing a rom from here like Lineage and getting full Nougat, changed the entire experience
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Do they fully support the S-Pen?

andytiedye said:
Do they fully support the S-Pen?
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Yes and no. Lineage supports S Pen, but you don't get the Touchwiz stuff such as S Note etc, but easily substituted with Squid from the Play Store, which in my opinion is better.

Some of us don't have the option of custom ROMs. I am stuck with either unrooted Lollipop or rooted KitKat. Funny how some criticize others for wanting to have current software on their expensive devices...

(2017) S-Pen Backwards Compatability
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I gave up and got a Tab S3, maybe one day Samsung will make another larger Android tablet.
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Does the (2017) S-Pen from the Tab S3 happen to work on the Note 12.2?
Thanks!

I'm convinced that now is the best time to own one of these tablets. In fact, I bought an SM-P907a last night. This is based on my ownership of a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014) for the last couple years. This has been running stock Rom, because it's an SM-P605v. So far, no one's been able to figure out how to root it or upgrade it past Android 5.1.1. Even so, Google is continuing to upgrade Google Play Services, making these Samsung devices the best product on the market bar none. They're no longer the fastest on the market, but are better featured than anything out there, including the Surface Pro, IPad Pro, and yes, even the Samsung Tab S3 (It has no connectivity capabilities, and I personally like the fact that the Galaxy Pro, and Note 10.1 have the S Pen mounted internally). The reasons I've decided to buy the Galaxy Pro amount to screen real estate for sketching, and display of my sheet music while I'm playing and singing. My advice, keep your tablet. You're not going to find anything to replace it that will really meet your expectations for some time yet. I'm planning on using the Galaxy Pro for at least a couple of years, advance giving the Note 10.1 to my wife.

If you are willing to root your Note Pro P900, there are two different roms recently posted under development that port the Samsung S2's version of Marshmallow -- complete w/ Samsung apps and touchwiz -- to this tablet.
"Yet Another Marshmallow Rom" (this is the one I am using at the moment)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/p900-marshmallow-rom-t3604194
And this one (camera doesn't work with it):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/p900-touchwiz-marshmallow-t3567916
I post these here because they not only allow upgrading to Marshmallow while keeping the Samsung Touchwiz vibe, they also allow installing some apps the Pro 12.2 couldn't run otherwise. Soundcamp, and at least two art programs.
So don't give up on the Pro 12.2 yet.
Blessings.

Kingsman1 said:
I bought an SM-P907a last night.
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shonkin said:
If you are willing to root your Note Pro P900, there are two different roms recently posted under development that port the Samsung S2's version of Marshmallow -- complete w/ Samsung apps and touchwiz -- to this tablet.
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He has a 907a. No ROMs.