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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice
I like pics i take with it
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not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice
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It's the software that comes with it I've tried other camera software like camera pro it snaps fast like really fast. Just that the software needs to be updated for the HTC EVO. Far as stock camera video its the software encoding sucks. The hardware is great just finding the right software or somebody develops one. Seems as if all the devs are busy rooting and tweaking the roms that HTC and Google should of done before even releasing software. Then maybe the devs can focus on making apps for us. Maybe somebody will soon develop better camera and video app that really take advantage of this great camera.
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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you focusing the camera? Press and hold on the screen in the area you want to focus and it will focus and snap the picture. The pictures are pretty good (not DSLR quality or anything, but much better than most/all phones).
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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
2. Yes, the video quality does suck ass, but its been made a whole lot better here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808. My evo is recording at 13 mbps in h.264, and the results are fantastic. We shouldn't have to be doing this, but at least its working.
It's a phone.
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Agreed. The camera sucks.. I think it's 8 in dog megapixels.
Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back
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Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back
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Very true. Tons of megapixels really only help when you want to get huge prints. The two most important parts of a camera in my opinion are the image sensor and the lens, neither of which are going to be that great on any phone camera. I think the pictures the Evo takes are pretty good for a phone.
The evo camera isn't amazing... but if you need quality pictures, DON'T RELY ON YOUR PHONE. It's a ****ing phone! Get yourself a point and shoot or a DSLR.
Guys guys think about it phone cameras has came a long way from back in the early days. Soon these cameras will take the place of point and shoot. If you want better get DSLR. I have seen some great
Photos around the forum. The camera in this EVO are capable of taking great photos plus EVO has the processor to handle it more than what a point and shoot has. Soon cell phones will be getting dual cores. But until then it is this whack stock software that is processing the photos. Take the iPhone 5mp camera making the EVO picture look bad because they have a great camera software. Only if somebody can write a better camera app if I could code that would of been the first app I would of made. That and a better video conferencing app.
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Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
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As someone who has owned and used both the iPhone 4 and the Evo (returned my iP4 for the Evo), I can confidently say that the iP4's camera does indeed destroy the one on the Evo. I love my Evo and wouldn't switch back if you paid me, but the cameras aren't even in the same league.
The Evo takes photos which are on-par with the smartphones we've all seen and used over the last few years. They're okay. You can put the pics up on your website, etc., but I wouldn't rely on the Evo for anything particularly important. The iP4's camera, on the other hand, is just amazing. It can hold its own against any of the typical $200 - $300 non-DSLR cameras on the market and, therefore, can effectively be your everyday, walking around camera.
The best summary I can give is that the Evo's camera is a good to okay camera -- for a cell phone. The iP4's camera is a very good camera -- period.
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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you judging the fuzzy picture at first glance? By that I mean preview after your shot or in gallery? Because sometimes the picture if you don't zoom in it can look really fuzzy and then when you zoom in a title bit it corrects the picture quality and be very clear. Also download them to your pc and see how they actually turn out. You might be surprised. I am an avid amateur photographer so I use DSLR to shoot pictures. In good light the camera and software combo isn't bad. It has horrible low light capability but then again its a phone camera. And as many people said a few tweak here and there with the software and it will make a big difference. I know when they tweaked the HTC HD2 phone I had it made a world of difference. I know it will happen on this phone too. We have to let some get past the linpacks and quadrant scores for a little while before cameras become the hot topic
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the pictures aren't the greatest but i have gotten some really good ones. I attached a few. People need to quit complaining though, it's a damn phone and the quality isn't half bad, if we can make it better then so be it but it's good as it is. These are from when i took my lil sisters to the zoo we were at the butterfly garden. I didn't edit these at all and they look even better on my phone
Its inferior to other devices so actually we should complain. Sure you can get nice shots but its anything but automatic.
I don't think it's that bad. Took this picture a month ago.
I agree on both sides here...the camera is pretty decent, but I do believe software improvements can and should be made.
Hasn't it been posted here that the camera manufacturer is the same as the ip4's?
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I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.
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I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.
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Exactly. I would have to say that's one of the reasons for the "megapixels aren't everything" argument. It's just a description of how many pixels the sensor can produce like you said.
If you have a bigger sensor (which is difficult in a cellphone camera obviously) like in a DSLR, you get bigger pixels. I freakin' love my new Canon Rebel T2i I just bought last week!
Hi, traded my trusty ol Nexus 5 for the be spoken M8 Eye. I have been a droid loyalist since the gingerbread days, have used HTC legend, desire , evo3d, galaxy notes, s4, Xperia ultra , nexus..but I swear by God this the best buy yet.
The HTC phones are sure built like strong German cars, and comparing to new iPhone 6, yes, m8 just tops it on handling and finish. The i6 feels like the older HTC one x.
Sound clarity is beautiful from the stereo speakers, SQ is there but it could have done with more loudness.
Out of box it came preloaded with KK 4.4.4 and the SenseUI is buttery smooth topped with good battery life.
Camera quality is all good, very snappy in locking focus unlike nexus5. My camera usage is very basic so not commenting much.
Happy to be part of XDA..thanks!!
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The Eye is great with the 13MP camera, I just understand why HTC omitted NFC and the Infrared port on it.
The m8 eye is a good looking device ! I like it...but I won't trade my current m8 unless it brakes jaja if it does I might get the m8 eye
Is the camera just more MP, or is it actually upgraded hardware wise?
Just curious. ?
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Is the camera just more MP, or is it actually upgraded hardware wise?
Just curious. ?
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mostly different camera, everything else should be same
Is it the faster AC 801 like the Asian M8 or still the AB 801?
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mostly different camera, everything else should be same
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Sorry, I meant is it different camera hardware. Or just more MP.
If it's the same hardware... Wouldn't the only improvement be you can blow the pic up a bit more.?
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Sorry, I meant is it different camera hardware. Or just more MP.
If it's the same hardware... Wouldn't the only improvement be you can blow the pic up a bit more.?
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Do you even read the specs? both cameras, front and back are having 13mp and few differences between both...
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Sorry, I meant is it different camera hardware. Or just more MP.
If it's the same hardware... Wouldn't the only improvement be you can blow the pic up a bit more.?
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Do you even read the specs? both cameras, front and back are having 13mp and few differences between both...
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I read it... Lol But doesn't say, new camera hardware... Way better than the old m8. ?
I'm just curious, cause they can make it a thousand mega pixels... But still need better hardware for the pics to actually be "better". Know what I mean.
Able to print or view a bigger pic, doesn't make it a better pic.
I still use an 8 MP Kodak camera, cause the pictures are awesome. And I don't need to blow them up. ?
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I read it... Lol But doesn't say, new camera hardware... Way better than the old m8. ?
I'm just curious, cause they can make it a thousand mega pixels... But still need better hardware for the pics to actually be "better". Know what I mean.
Able to print or view a bigger pic, doesn't make it a better pic.
I still use an 8 MP Kodak camera, cause the pictures are awesome. And I don't need to blow them up. ?
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yea bigger MP doesnt mean better pics... i really like the m8 cam.. bot the front and back makes such good Pictures, i don't Need any other cam...i wanted to buy like my sister a dlsr...but now i don't want to anymore because the pics are enough good
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I read it... Lol But doesn't say, new camera hardware... Way better than the old m8. ?
I'm just curious, cause they can make it a thousand mega pixels... But still need better hardware for the pics to actually be "better". Know what I mean.
Able to print or view a bigger pic, doesn't make it a better pic.
I still use an 8 MP Kodak camera, cause the pictures are awesome. And I don't need to blow them up. ?
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Couldn't agree more about no need to blow up photos, and I have no interest in making posters with my camera photos. I think the pics the original m8 takes are great, but they needed to make the eye version to appease all those who felt more megapixels equals better. There are also those who swear their pics are washed out on the original, but that hasn't been my experience.
I asked cause my wife might be interested in an M8...and was curious if I should look for an eye... But I think the original M8 is more than good enough.... For a phone camera anyway.
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It's not just about quality...it's the ability to crop since we don't have optical zoom.
Let's say we only needed 30% of what's in the frame and you crop it tight to get rid of the unwanted background or foreground....your 4mp image just became a webcam resolution image that's only gonna be good for mms!
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Yes, agreed.... But that's for you. Your photo needs, right. Me, I point and click... And that's all I want/expect out of my phone.
More important things, I use my camera.
And quality is pretty important... Especially for what your describing. Even with many MP, blowing up a poor quality pic is just enhancing the poor quality.
IMHO. ?
FYI as per GSMArena specs the Eye is also missing the IR port & NFC compared to the regular M8.
Just thought I'd share this (again, see post 2) since a few people subsequently commented that the phones were identical sans the camera.
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FYI as per GSMArena specs the Eye is also missing the IR port & NFC compared to the regular M8.
Just thought I'd share this (again, see post 2) since a few people subsequently commented that the phones were identical sans the camera.
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yea and i was just referring to the cpu and ram etc...
about rom
can we flash m8 rom on m8 eye???
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can we flash m8 rom on m8 eye???
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Not without modifications and optimizations
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the biggest quesiton: is there a development or ROMs community for the M8 Eye? i need to switch a Chinese base with the Indian one
I m thinking to get this one but only worried if it will get the android L update or not
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I can't stand the camera quality and am forced to sell. It's a great phone otherwise.
Try to get your hands on the updated version 5 moto camera app before giving up. There was some improvement for me. If you are a real shutterbug, then it might not be enough improvement in low light for you.
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I can't stand the camera quality and am forced to sell. It's a great phone otherwise.
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Camera quality is fantastic.
Focus needs some work but can be improved.
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Try to get your hands on the updated version 5 moto camera app before giving up. There was some improvement for me. If you are a real shutterbug, then it might not be enough improvement in low light for you.
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I'll give it a shot. Thanks
The turbos camera is terrible as are all Motorola cameras. I love moto though so I also have an iPhone 6 for special events. I'm not bashing the turbo and I love mine but there isn't an app or software update that will make this camera right. Its like this with every new moto that comes out and its amazing every time that they botch that camera.
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The turbos camera is terrible as are all Motorola cameras. I love moto though so I also have an iPhone 6 for special events. I'm not bashing the turbo and I love mine but there isn't an app or software update that will make this camera right. Its like this with every new moto that comes out and its amazing every time that they botch that camera.
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I agree that of the OEMS moto just doesn't do the best cameras. But, I think of the moto phones, the turbo is the best among them. It's definitely not the greatest camera. But not the worst either. I get some pretty good shots. Then I get some duds.
A better camera does a pretty good job of improving the turbos camera. Adjusting what type of focus it uses seems to help a lot
When i turn on my camera i really miss my earlier Xperia Z3.
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When i turn on my camera i really miss my earlier Xperia Z3.
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Both have same.camera module. It is purely a software issue.
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Both have same.camera module. It is purely a software issue.
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Yes.
And is that software that i miss.
I am due an upgrade and currently being pushed a S7 by my service provider. But i decided too take a look at the G5.
Its a nice looking phone, fits nicely in your hand as its slightly narrower than the G4.
I have some reservations about the module release button? but only time will tell? The software has more of an iclone feel now? But the camera functionality is what i was most interested in. Looking at what i have seen i would say that LG have dropped the ball on this? Sure theres a little tweek on the main 16mp camera but the option to have dual lense you think they would have come up with something far better than what they are about to deliver.
Sticking one image inside another is nothing new,, they should have delivered a software package to accompany the new camera system that would have made the user more interested in using both lenses.
Once the handset in delivered to me i will post some more, but the bottom line is the modular system might be the only real reason to switch from a G4 to G5.
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I am due an upgrade and currently being pushed a S7 by my service provider. But i decided too take a look at the G5.
Its a nice looking phone, fits nicely in your hand as its slightly narrower than the G4.
I have some reservations about the module release button? but only time will tell? The software has more of an iclone feel now? But the camera functionality is what i was most interested in. Looking at what i have seen i would say that LG have dropped the ball on this? Sure theres a little tweek on the main 16mp camera but the option to have dual lense you think they would have come up with something far better than what they are about to deliver.
Sticking one image inside another is nothing new,, they should have delivered a software package to accompany the new camera system that would have made the user more interested in using both lenses.
Once the handset in delivered to me i will post some more, but the bottom line is the modular system might be the only real reason to switch from a G4 to G5.
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'Sticking one image inside Another is nothing new' - I'm pretty sure you've missed the point in the dual camera setup. Sure the photo in a photo is a gimmick and 99% of people will never use it. But what about the wide camera lense? You haven't even mentioned that, and that is one of the most important things you could have mentioned.
What sort of software package are you alluding to? You've essentially got the option of using a great 16mpx camera, which will be absolutely amazing if my lg g4 in manual/raw is anything to go by. And in addition you have a super wide angled lense for taking in sweeping vistas.
The only reason someone would upgrade from an s6 to an s7 is incremental hardware updates. So I don't really get your 'bottom line' bit.. The lg g5 has hardware updates like the s7, and an even more unique and innovative design, so actually you have more reason to upgrade.
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'Sticking one image inside Another is nothing new' - I'm pretty sure you've missed the point in the dual camera setup. Sure the photo in a photo is a gimmick and 99% of people will never use it. But what about the wide camera lense? You haven't even mentioned that, and that is one of the most important things you could have mentioned.
What sort of software package are you alluding to? You've essentially got the option of using a great 16mpx camera, which will be absolutely amazing if my lg g4 in manual/raw is anything to go by. And in addition you have a super wide angled lense for taking in sweeping vistas.
The only reason someone would upgrade from an s6 to an s7 is incremental hardware updates. So I don't really get your 'bottom line' bit.. The lg g5 has hardware updates like the s7, and an even more unique and innovative design, so actually you have more reason to upgrade.
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I'm currently in possession of a G4, I've had a chance to do side by side compare.
What about the amazing software? Well you have a 16mp camera which in my opinion is the same as the G4 just software / processing seems tweaked a little? Its really nice but nothing you will be surprised at if your using a G4. The wide angle lenses you talk about mate is a bit of a letdown, it's true does have a massive angle on it but 8mp is more than able to handle shots with good detail.......................................if it had a bloody bigger sensor!
Theres a lot of noise in the photos and I'm hoping with an update that will be addressed? But I like photos with out the green and red salt and pepper dustings.
So what they could have given us was a smart blur option on backgrounds like the what HTC done with the M8 series and bokeh effects?
That would have been a nice upgrade on the photography from the G4!
How about a native filters and editing tool? Sure there's plenty of third party apps out there, but how about we have an option to shot live with filters rather than post edit?
So no I don't think I missed the point of a dual camera feature? I think LG are the ones who missed it by delivering what looks like good hardware with bare minimum effort on software to showcase the hardware.
I ain't asking for bells or whistles but they have launched a phone that's show case features are modular customization and a DUAL LENSE CAMERA, so why have We not had a bigger bundle installed on the software to help support this?
I do have to say the picture in picture is more of a gimmick. I was they would have brought manual video mode
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I do have to say the picture in picture is more of a gimmick. I was they would have brought manual video mode
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Realistically who's going to use it?
As I stated already improving what they are offering by things just like you mention would have a far bigger appeal to people who are buying the phone for its features.
Recently seen that for the latest 8** series Snapdragon SOC driven devices the HDR+ function on Google Camera was made functional on most of devices. The results in comparison to their original camera seems day and night from all points of view especially in low-light situations. As we now this seems to be Achilles heel for the Mate 9 and maybe the biggest reason that most of us lookup for other devices.
As I am no expert, I wonder if this function can be made functional on Kirin chipsets!? I want to take this opportunity to pull the alarm for the developers' and for the skillful members of this forum.
If successful most likely most of us won't look that soon for the planned new launches like: Note 8, V30, maybe even the next Mate.
You can do it yourself you know. Just shoot several raw images and combine them into one in post. Not as quick as HDR+ but it works!
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You can do it yourself you know. Just shoot several raw images and combine them into one in post. Not as quick as HDR+ but it works!
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That thing already know, but regardless of how hard you try (any app or setup) you cannot achieve results that good. Plus google camera's exposure is much better. Please check this thing yourself if you don't believe me.
does google camera even work on mate 9?
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does google camera even work on mate 9?
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Yes. But not the most recent ones. The ones for 7.0 work.
True HDR uses three different images that you then assemble in a photo editing suite of your choice. The 'HDR' function in any phone is not a true HDR and just a computer algorithm that blends three exposures. Since the Mate 9 shoots raw, most will just do it the 'real' way Would be neat to see this function in the Mate 9 for us lazy folks(yes I am lazy and yes I am a professional photographer)
Ok, so no interest in this direction, nobody keen on improving the camera.
Not what I was saying at all. If we can improve the camera and keep all the functions built into it by Huawei, I would be first in line to sign up. Hell, I bought this phone specifically because of the camera. It is a wonderful performer that I have not even begun to stretch to the limits yet, but I have only had the phone for 3 days or so. I look forward to an improved camera, but only without the loss of functionality
Here we go: Unofficial Google Camera port updated with RAW support and HDR+ customization
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Here we go: Unofficial Google Camera port updated with RAW support and HDR+ customization
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Man, won't even open. That's ok, I figured it wouldn't. Would cool if we could merge some code with our stock camera app. I like it better than Google's personally
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Man, won't even open. That's ok, I figured it wouldn't. Would cool if we could merge some code with our stock camera app. I like it better than Google's personally
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It working fine on my Mate 9.
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It working fine on my Mate 9.
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Really? Interesting. Did you do anything specific or just install and go? I'm in FromFuture B198, rooted obviously. Maybe it's not happy with that. I'll try restarting at least.
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Really? Interesting. Did you do anything specific or just install and go? I'm in FromFuture B198, rooted obviously. Maybe it's not happy with that. I'll try restarting at least.
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No, I didn't do anything special. But pay attention: there are two different APKs. One of them is for Qualcomm CPUs. Download the one in the first link. This one.
Hey guys, I've tried the other one I think and crashed the camera driver had to reboot! Lemmie try this one! Thanks kermex
Edit: Nope! I open once, then can't open again :/ Oh well... Another curious thing is that it only detects the 12MB RGB Sensor... These sensores have so much potential, hope Huawei will get into the Camera Software deeper...
So now it works, change hw level to legacy.
Comparing histograms using 2 pictures, one is stock HDR and the other is using the Google Camera HDR+, I can conclude that HDR+ isn't working, can't see any improvements regarding dynamic range. What do you guys think?
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So now it works, change hw level to legacy.
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The only thing I changed was the option to save as RAW. Nothing else.
will test it with several set-ups to see if any improvement comes from the HDR+ function.
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Comparing histograms using 2 pictures, one is stock HDR and the other is using the Google Camera HDR+, I can conclude that HDR+ isn't working, can't see any improvements regarding dynamic range. What do you guys think?
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if there isnt a "nike" mark above the HDR+ icon, the function is not working
i tried using different settings, but not work for me, stay an "A" above HDR+
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if there isnt a "nike" mark above the HDR+ icon, the function is not working
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Soooo... How did you activate it then?