Hi, traded my trusty ol Nexus 5 for the be spoken M8 Eye. I have been a droid loyalist since the gingerbread days, have used HTC legend, desire , evo3d, galaxy notes, s4, Xperia ultra , nexus..but I swear by God this the best buy yet.
The HTC phones are sure built like strong German cars, and comparing to new iPhone 6, yes, m8 just tops it on handling and finish. The i6 feels like the older HTC one x.
Sound clarity is beautiful from the stereo speakers, SQ is there but it could have done with more loudness.
Out of box it came preloaded with KK 4.4.4 and the SenseUI is buttery smooth topped with good battery life.
Camera quality is all good, very snappy in locking focus unlike nexus5. My camera usage is very basic so not commenting much.
Happy to be part of XDA..thanks!!
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The Eye is great with the 13MP camera, I just understand why HTC omitted NFC and the Infrared port on it.
The m8 eye is a good looking device ! I like it...but I won't trade my current m8 unless it brakes jaja if it does I might get the m8 eye
Is the camera just more MP, or is it actually upgraded hardware wise?
Just curious. ?
KJ said:
Is the camera just more MP, or is it actually upgraded hardware wise?
Just curious. ?
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mostly different camera, everything else should be same
Is it the faster AC 801 like the Asian M8 or still the AB 801?
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One-M8-Master said:
mostly different camera, everything else should be same
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Sorry, I meant is it different camera hardware. Or just more MP.
If it's the same hardware... Wouldn't the only improvement be you can blow the pic up a bit more.?
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Sorry, I meant is it different camera hardware. Or just more MP.
If it's the same hardware... Wouldn't the only improvement be you can blow the pic up a bit more.?
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Do you even read the specs? both cameras, front and back are having 13mp and few differences between both...
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Sorry, I meant is it different camera hardware. Or just more MP.
If it's the same hardware... Wouldn't the only improvement be you can blow the pic up a bit more.?
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One-M8-Master said:
Do you even read the specs? both cameras, front and back are having 13mp and few differences between both...
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I read it... Lol But doesn't say, new camera hardware... Way better than the old m8. ?
I'm just curious, cause they can make it a thousand mega pixels... But still need better hardware for the pics to actually be "better". Know what I mean.
Able to print or view a bigger pic, doesn't make it a better pic.
I still use an 8 MP Kodak camera, cause the pictures are awesome. And I don't need to blow them up. ?
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I read it... Lol But doesn't say, new camera hardware... Way better than the old m8. ?
I'm just curious, cause they can make it a thousand mega pixels... But still need better hardware for the pics to actually be "better". Know what I mean.
Able to print or view a bigger pic, doesn't make it a better pic.
I still use an 8 MP Kodak camera, cause the pictures are awesome. And I don't need to blow them up. ?
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yea bigger MP doesnt mean better pics... i really like the m8 cam.. bot the front and back makes such good Pictures, i don't Need any other cam...i wanted to buy like my sister a dlsr...but now i don't want to anymore because the pics are enough good
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I read it... Lol But doesn't say, new camera hardware... Way better than the old m8. ?
I'm just curious, cause they can make it a thousand mega pixels... But still need better hardware for the pics to actually be "better". Know what I mean.
Able to print or view a bigger pic, doesn't make it a better pic.
I still use an 8 MP Kodak camera, cause the pictures are awesome. And I don't need to blow them up. ?
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Couldn't agree more about no need to blow up photos, and I have no interest in making posters with my camera photos. I think the pics the original m8 takes are great, but they needed to make the eye version to appease all those who felt more megapixels equals better. There are also those who swear their pics are washed out on the original, but that hasn't been my experience.
I asked cause my wife might be interested in an M8...and was curious if I should look for an eye... But I think the original M8 is more than good enough.... For a phone camera anyway.
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It's not just about quality...it's the ability to crop since we don't have optical zoom.
Let's say we only needed 30% of what's in the frame and you crop it tight to get rid of the unwanted background or foreground....your 4mp image just became a webcam resolution image that's only gonna be good for mms!
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Yes, agreed.... But that's for you. Your photo needs, right. Me, I point and click... And that's all I want/expect out of my phone.
More important things, I use my camera.
And quality is pretty important... Especially for what your describing. Even with many MP, blowing up a poor quality pic is just enhancing the poor quality.
IMHO. ?
FYI as per GSMArena specs the Eye is also missing the IR port & NFC compared to the regular M8.
Just thought I'd share this (again, see post 2) since a few people subsequently commented that the phones were identical sans the camera.
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FYI as per GSMArena specs the Eye is also missing the IR port & NFC compared to the regular M8.
Just thought I'd share this (again, see post 2) since a few people subsequently commented that the phones were identical sans the camera.
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yea and i was just referring to the cpu and ram etc...
about rom
can we flash m8 rom on m8 eye???
Smit kikaganeshwala said:
can we flash m8 rom on m8 eye???
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Not without modifications and optimizations
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the biggest quesiton: is there a development or ROMs community for the M8 Eye? i need to switch a Chinese base with the Indian one
I m thinking to get this one but only worried if it will get the android L update or not
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Related
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html
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I would take that with a grain of salt since the retail version hasn't been released yet.
Funny fact: HOX uses samsung's image sensor (iirc, it's the same one used in GS2 and GS3 uses something else)
The ONE X is the winner hands down! Can I please have a phone with the design, camera and screen of the ONE X and the rest of the specs from the GS3?
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I would take that with a grain of salt since the retail version hasn't been released yet.
Funny fact: HOX uses samsung's image sensor (iirc, it's the same one used in GS2 and GS3 uses something else)
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Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
Damit. HTC One X has much better photos. I guess I will wait no more. Bye bye good old sgs2. I guess HTC is new king!
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Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
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Imho the wider aperture of the HOX is really paying off.
Let the straw grasping begin.....
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The One X is marketed as having the best camera hardware. The SGS3 is marketed as an all around device.
If u want good photos, go One X. For everything else SGS3
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Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
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They both do but there is literally zero information about the sensor being used in the s3. I think someone already matched up the model number for the S2 camera sensor to the HOX
What does the dedicated imagechip do?
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They both do but there is literally zero information about the sensor being used in the s3. I think someone already matched up the model number for the S2 camera sensor to the HOX
What does the dedicated imagechip do?
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I'm not sure! But google gave me this:
HTC’s ImageChip is responsible for most of the things that would traditionally be done on the SoC ISP. 3A (Autofocus, Auto white balance, and Autoexposure), lens correction (geometric and chromatic correction), noise reduction, best shot selection, continuous auto focus, controlling gains on the CMOS sensor, LED flash level decision, region of interest identification (augmented with face detection) and so on. This is all stuff you can verify yourself by taking apart some of the ISP related files - curiously enough internally ImageChip is actually referred to as “rawchip.” This is also the hardware responsible for enabling HTC’s extremely fast image continuous capture and frame grabbing during video capture (HTC Video Pic). It’s somewhat analogous to what Google and TI did with the OMAP4460 on the Galaxy Nexus, except discrete and with a much more ambitious focus.
From http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5
There's something wrong with those galaxy siii pics. There's way too much noise around any picture of a light. My sii takes better pictures than that. It almost looks like what pictures look like when you still have the protective plastic over the lens!
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There's something wrong with those galaxy siii pics. There's way too much noise around any picture of a light. My sii takes better pictures than that. It almost looks like what pictures look like when you still have the protective plastic over the lens!
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True..The photos looks worse than SGS2. Also EXIF data missing.
Here's another site where you will get some photo comparison between SGS2 and SGS3 at full resolution and EXIF data.
http://android.com.pl/artykuly/arty...ksele-test-aparatu-samsunga-galaxy-s-iii.html
Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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HOX has some very good optics. Nobody will argue about that. We know how HOX images look. That's not the point of discussion here. The photos are not 8MP resolution and don't have any metadata.
Compare this to the link I mentioned earlier, do they look like taken with the same device?
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Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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Wel phonearena thinks the same.Its legit since they provided proof.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...alaxy-S-II-vs-Nexus-vs-N8-vs-iPhone-4S_id3006
Going by them its even worse then the SGS2.
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Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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May be something is wrong with GSMARENA? Have a look at this test
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_vs_htc_titan_2-review-755p3.php
they claim that Lumia 900 takes better pics than HTC Titan II, whereas even their own samples show otherwise. I tried to post a comment on this there, it never appeared due to their censorship...
I really doubt that the photos appearing on android central are legit. The phone hasnt even gone out for reviews and this guy has it in his pocket on the streets and shoots randomly? rofl
The polish site's photos look way better.
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HOX has some very good optics. Nobody will argue about that. We know how HOX images look. That's not the point of discussion here. The photos are not 8MP resolution and don't have any metadata.
Compare this to the link I mentioned earlier, do they look like taken with the same device?
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So you disagree with what you said in your 'comprehensive comparison'? If it's so comprehensive, you should include reviews from more than one source, instead of the most critical one you can find
Bull**** I call, not taken with a S3. Samsung murder HTC. Always have, always will. And I'm a One x owner.
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Htc one again
I think for sure i will keep my order on the htc one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfqeuY_dWmE
Ouch...
S4 looks very bad (also, what's up with the color)? But the comments are even funnier - some people are really butthurt.
the comments are funny..
apart from that.. the video on the one looks excellent
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AW: HTC One vs. Samsung Galaxy S4 stabilization test
Brilliant device... Got the one for 5 days now and I'm really impressed! Just everything is gr8!
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The comments are funny, but my need to tell all these **** the facts is hard. I made this post for them:
"Ok people, read.
1. This video is posted by GSMArena. They don't post fake stuff.
2. GSMArena always gets devices early, it's been like this for years.
3. The S4 is not zoomed in, the HTC One has a wider lens, hence you see more.
4. The HTC One has OIS (Optical Image Stabilization), the S4 has only Digital Image Stabilization at best. That's something that also makes a big difference.
These are all facts. In video, the One wins. But photo's will surely look sharper on the S4."
They think it's fake & that the S4 is zoomed in... lol. :") The video on the One looks good, but it's more fun to see the S4 fans cry lol. And they should, at least based on this comparison.
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The comments are funny, but my need to tell all these **** the facts is hard. I made this post for them:
"Ok people, read.
1. This video is posted by GSMArena. They don't post fake stuff.
2. GSMArena always gets devices early, it's been like this for years.
3. The S4 is not zoomed in, the HTC One has a wider lens, hence you see more.
4. The HTC One has OIS (Optical Image Stabilization), the S4 has only Digital Image Stabilization at best. That's something that also makes a big difference.
These are all facts. In video, the One wins. But photo's will surely look sharper on the S4."
They think it's fake & that the S4 is zoomed in... lol. :") The video on the One looks good, but it's more fun to see the S4 fans cry lol. And they should, at least based on this comparison.
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Thats good news
Man, what a difference. I don't even think my s3 is that bad compared to the s4 or maybe just never realized it?
The One definitely takes the cake here.
Sent from a galaxy far away!
Well every day I feel better about having choose the One as my next phone
I find these camera reviews to be so subjective, I've seen the GS4 video on other sites and it looks better than the HTC One. Also the GS4 image stabilization was never that bad, maybe they have it turned off or something and have weird settings. You could tell they were moving the GS4 faster than the HTC One as well...
Like I said these comparisons are bull****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x802Nfiz6Dg
Now the HTC One and GS4 are both in there somewhere...
We'll find out which phone is which at one stage.
What I have noticed however is cameras are rather subjective, there is no "best" camera.
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You could tell they were moving the GS4 faster than the HTC One as well...
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This was a side by side comparison.
They were moved at the exact same time at the exact same speed.
The lack of image stabilization ability the Galaxy S 4 portrayed in this video is what made it appear faster :beer:
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It's funny how the S4 forums here in XDA has a lot of vs HTC One threads. Looks like S4 is really threatened.
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This was a side by side comparison.
They were moved at the exact same time at the exact same speed.
The lack of image stabilization ability the Galaxy S 4 portrayed in this video is what made it appear faster :beer:
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Didn't Samsung say it had Image Stabilization? I thought I've seen this in several reports too, what's weird is they've said on that site that the GS4 has better low light performance and yet many other sites say otherwise.
I think it's all rather subjective atm to how people set up the settings, I mean if they were both on default it could explain why as my 808 by default has image stabilization off and produces horrible low light pictures and is only 5MP......
It's no good have stuff on default settings, you need to set the camera up to the situation and produce the best pictures the phone allows you.
I'm not buying either of these phones, I'm more inclined to go the HTC One cause it looks nicer, that said I'm not impressed by either of them.
Yeh in fact on the GS4's list of specs for the Camera...
Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Features Dual Shot, Simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection, image stabilization, HDR
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It's funny how the S4 forums here in XDA has a lot of vs HTC One threads. Looks like S4 is really threatened.
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This is the HTC One forum and not the S4 forum
which one should i go for one or s4?? which is better???
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which one should i go for one or s4?? which is better???
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get both and return the less favored in 7 days. :good:
Clear winner from gsm arena battle: HTC One :good:
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Clear winner from gsm arena battle: HTC One :good:
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Yeah but the quality of that looks strange. My S III and Note II both had much better quality than that so I will not give the victory to the One just based on that When I get mine in my hands I will decide myself
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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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Do you have one? Or speculation? Just wondering
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He's been bashing the M8 all day. Camera is decent just not enough megapixels for his liking.
Tell me that the photos from Engadget are fake!
They look horrible
Ive seen a couple short hands on reviews that say the M8 pics are no better than the M7. The only thing the M8 has going for it in the camera department is speed and that new refocusing feature....which one reviewer said doesnt really work that well. Hmmm
They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Now they look good! I got scared at first, now here's the answer
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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Yeah, um, those Flickr photos look more than acceptable for me. I don't need the best camera if I'm getting the best screen, audio quality, and experience that the M8 will surely offer as the M7 did. The camera is literally secondary (or, well, further than that) than all of those areas and, even then, it's not really bad at all.
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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NO.
NOT ENOUGH MEGAPIXELS.
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In all seriousness, when it comes down to cutting costs on a smartphone design, camera would be the first thing on my list too. Would you rather it be made of cheap plastic, not have front facing speakers or have a smaller battery?
I'd take superior hardware/build over a great camera any day. I know we want it all, but it seems like we just can't have it all. At least not til the M9.
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.
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I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.
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IMAG0065 that night time pic...looks really really really bad. but for the most part its not bad. Matter of fact all the night time ones are really bad towards the end .
In complete and utter seriousness guys (not being a fanboy either) I was MORE than pleased with the camera on the M7. That was my primary concern that I debated over for months before getting the M7 - giving up my iPhone 5 which took awesome pics was a difficult choice. Hands down, I'm more than excited to get back to Android (had to go back to my iPhone 5 due to selling my M7). The true wide angle 16:9 is so awesome and the pics were great. Overall, I felt like I was able to regularly capture more accurate color representations with the M7. Low light was pretty great too.
I will say, there were a few times where I was left wishing I could crop to a larger size and retain image quality. However, for me personally, it wasn't a big enough issue for me to ditch the phone, as I don't need to do that often enough. If you're someone who is perpetually cropping, this probably isn't going to work for you.
Also, I used to have an album of pics I took on my phone to show people when they'd play with it. I received soooo many compliments on the pics I took and more people saying "This phone has such an amazing camera" never knowing it was only 1/2 the MP's as their phones.
I understand and agree with the major drawbacks of it, however, as an overall quick shooter to the ability to take your time and change settings to get an optimal pic, it blew me away quite a few times. That's more than I could ever say about my iPhone.
Addition: there was a thread I saw with M7 vs. M8 photos and the colors looked quite a bit better and more crisp on the M8. I'm excited to see what I can do with it.
although the MP is disappointing, the strengths of the phone outweigh a blunder such as that I think. It's not like the camera is crap, it's just average for current times. We just had higher expectations as we should have especially compared to last year's. I would say the camera is "adequate"
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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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I have the phone actually. Not just making assumptions and the camera isn't bad. The software is awesome.
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I want to see how the slow motion video is. I love that and use it all the time to record my son's sports.
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Thanks! Much better indeed. These are more than acceptable for my use.
The MKBHD first impression video of the camera shows off it's strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlt_2X8sPw
im not sure about anyone else but i really dont take many pics at night or in low light. so the camera is fine for me. i will have it on thursday so i'll find out how well it works for me soon
I was really excited to see the spec for the M8.
The spec turned out pretty decent, but the camera.....unbelievable. How can a smart phone be shipped with a poor camera....a flagship smartphone that is.
The Galaxy S5 and the Z2 among others will absolutely kill this phone in sales.
The build of the M8 is beautiful though.....such a huge mistake with this poor choice of camera for the 2nd year running,
you are missing the point.
if you dont have the phone you shouldnt post in here. if you have it and face any problem with the camera you are welcomed. do you think HTC is dumb to create such thing? the desire have 13mp camera if HTC believes that 13MP of desire is better for the one they wouldnt hesitate to apply it to the HTC one too! but this phone with this poor camera you claim won many prices for the best phone of 2013 and now its featured in DUAL camera. this thread should be closed and users who are creating useless threads should be BANNED!!
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you are missing the point.
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I hope so.
Please elaborate.
Over the past 4 years or so, I have came to very heavily rely on my smartphone camera, i think almost everyone has. Yeah sure I have a great Compact digital camera and also a great DSLR .
But i always have my smartphone with me. The other cameras only get an outing about twice a year!
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I was really excited to see the spec for the M8.
The spec turned out pretty decent, but the camera.....unbelievable. How can a smart phone be shipped with a poor camera....a flagship smartphone that is.
The Galaxy S5 and the Z2 among others will absolutely kill this phone in sales.
The build of the M8 is beautiful though.....such a huge mistake with this poor choice of camera for the 2nd year running,
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The camera in m8 does not have optical image stabilization like the m7.
No OIS equals blurry pics unless you walk around with a tripod.
For the moment I am happy with my m7.
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if you dont have the phone you shouldnt post in here. if you have it and face any problem with the camera you are welcomed. do you think HTC is dumb to create such thing? the desire have 13mp camera if HTC believes that 13MP of desire is better for the one they wouldnt hesitate to apply it to the HTC one too! but this phone with this poor camera you claim won many prices for the best phone of 2013 and now its featured in DUAL camera. this thread should be closed and users who are creating useless threads should be BANNED!!
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gaz_0001 said:
I hope so.
Please elaborate.
Over the past 4 years or so, I have came to very heavily rely on my smartphone camera, i think almost everyone has. Yeah sure I have a great Compact digital camera and also a great DSLR .
But i always have my smartphone with me. The other cameras only get an outing about twice a year!
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OP, do you have the phone? Can you provide examples of this poor camera? If so, we'll gladly reopen the thread. Otherwise, conjecture based upon what you've read about the phone isn't really helpful.
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Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.
Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.
supercakefish said:
Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.
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I don't think he's specifically talking about the specs of the phone, just that the camera still sucks.
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But I can't think of any <5" phone that can compete camera-wise (except the iPhone 6S)?
And I think we should wait for more photo samples to appear before we take final judgement. Most of these early photo samples are using non-final software.
Here's a review that says the camera is the best in class:
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ria-z5-compact-review-best-smaller-smartphone
Hate to point out the obvious but every new phone that comes is an incremental improvement over its predecessor. Look at the iPhone, people(fools) queue for hours to be first to get the new model with 10% faster cpu, 10% bigger screen, 10% more pixels on the cmos sensor, and 20% less battery power. How i chuckle when i see iphone 6 owners, like junkies desperately looking for their next power fix! But, i digress.
A jack of all trades is a master of none. It is after all, a phone. It is not meant to be a world class, low light camera. My first camera phone was 0.3megapix. I thought it was pretty damn cool to have a camera at all. People just take it for granted nowadays. You want good low light photos, buy a camera. You know, them things you cant make phone calls on!
RiTCHiE007 said:
Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.
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The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.
kitch9 said:
The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.
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Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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Ok bro....
You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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kitch9 said:
Ok bro....
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Brothers love, eey?
RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.
wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?
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wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?
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its not flaming its the truth but some just cant handle it.
bubimir13 said:
I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.
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Yes the camera on the z3c was worse then on the z5c but when you look at the pictures taken with a z5c you will see blurry edges and its almost impossible to make awesome macro shots. So even tho this camera is a bit better it still cant mess with other high ends like note 5 or LG g4 that also uses a sony sensor so thats why i think this z5c is kinda a joke. But if sony doesn't fix all these problems like laggy OS then this will be my last sony phone.
If you really think the performance is as bad as you say you should properly try another vendor! In my experience, they are at least as bad and some a lot worse..
Honestly, I would prefer a smaller Nexus, and might even go for the 5X despite the size.. Nexus device are best in performance (os lag eg), the rest are catching up lately!
You do know that the standard resolution in the app is set to 8M, right?.. I did read its better at that res, but you should maybe try and change it, it goes up to 23 you know..
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You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.
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Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.
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Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?
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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?
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Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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Yea guess the color has nothing to do with is then because lots of white one's have the most problems it seems.