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HTC Desire browser vs. stock Android speed

Has anyone who has tried the Desire browser noticed that the loading speeds are much much much quicker than the stock Android?
I used KingK's Desire2Nexus for 1 day. Now I'm on CM 5.0.4 default. Loading up XDA on CM/default browser seems like there's a hang around the middle of the loading, and also 3/4 of the way there. On KingK, the loading speed was blazing going page to page. There was absolutely no hang at all.
Anyone else notice this?

Is it possible to use this browser without rooting?

whodatfever said:
Is it possible to use this browser without rooting?
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Nope...it's tied into the HTC framework. For what it's worth, the stock browser has improved quite a bit from Android 1.5 even... the Hero browser was way nicer at that time. The difference now is negligible to be honest.

denimjunkie82 said:
Has anyone who has tried the Desire browser noticed that the loading speeds are much much much quicker than the stock Android?
I used KingK's Desire2Nexus for 1 day. Now I'm on CM 5.0.4 default. Loading up XDA on CM/default browser seems like there's a hang around the middle of the loading, and also 3/4 of the way there. On KingK, the loading speed was blazing going page to page. There was absolutely no hang at all.
Anyone else notice this?
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I had the exact opposite experience, lol.

I too noticed a big boost in speed with the Desire browsr.

Maybe some of you rooted peeps can post a comparison on Youtube. Just make sure to clear the cache before recording, lol... Don't need another Engadget-type video.

To me it seems faster, also has more features like the long press on any word and it will give u options for copy, translate, Wikipedia, and dictionary.

Can't say I have felt a noticeable difference in speed, though I enjoy the extra features of the HTC browser. Worth noting, though, that it doesn't let you open as many windows as the stock one.

No No No No Noooo LOL
The Desire browser sucks in my testing
Multi touch pinch and zoom is a big let down, it jumps around the screen and is just terrible
Also most pages i normally visit on a day to day basis just stop loading at the http part of the bar :|
Also in my experience is closed itself all the time, just like ended :|
But hey thats just in my experience lol

It doesn't "jump around the screen" as such. The text just gets readjusted to fit into your screen properly the way it does on the stock browser when you double-tap.

I've noticed that I'm less accurate in choosing links on the Desire browser. But it's an alpha, so not that surprising.
My biggest issue with the N1 in general is touchscreen accuracy; I really hope it's gradually fixed in software.

ive noticed it too! Actually ive noticed almost everything to be faster on the desire rom..(im using kings)..and the flash player is awsome..it works for everything but hulu for me..and the pinch zoom works perfect for me too..i remember their use to be a stutter compared to the iphone, but then i went to the apple store yesterday and compared my nexus running on desire rom with the 3gs and the nexus seemed much more fluid

Jerky scrolling with finger down, smooth when released

Has anyone noticed this? Wherever there's something to scroll, web pages, menus etc., the motion is sort of stuttering as long as you keep your finger on the screen. When you release your finger and "throw" the page, it goes smooth. This makes me think that it's not a graphic performance issue, but it's more like if the resolution of the capacitive touch screen was lower than the actual display. I hope I'm wrong and it's software related...

Software related, doesn't always do this.
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On second thought I am not sure, sometimes it does this really badly and other times it is completely smooth. If we didn't have full resolution touch you would notice it on a multi touch test app.
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I think I have found the cause.
Cpu scaling!
Lock setcpu to 1 ghz and it is much smoother.
What is happening is the cpu speed keeps throttling and jumping back to full speed causing problems
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Actually...still unsure...ideas anyone?
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"Problems" with CPU speed jumping up and down? Those are not problems but a design decision (jury is still out on whether the implementation is done right) to save energy.
Of course you can crank everything up to the max and never put peripherals or the CPU to sleep, but please don't start complaining when your battery runs flat before the day is done.

They set the ramp down cpu speed timer far too short. This can be modded in a kernel anyway.
Using a multi touch test we have at minimum 600x300 touch resolution, way more then enough to have lag free scrolling.
There's an acer android phone out with only about 32x 24 touch resolution. They manage
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I don't think it's related. I'm experiencing this even with the cpu locked in performance mode. On the other hand, using a multitouch test app, I was able to move a pointer pixel by pixel at what seemed to be the screen's full resolution, so touch res is not the cause.
It's quite annoying cause even if you want to launch a fast scroll of, say, your contact list, you get that initial ugly small stutter... when browsing the internet this ruins the experience even more, since you are likely to keep your fingertip on the screen more.

Dunno about you guys but uninstalling Gesture Search by Google fixed it for me.

Never had that on my phone...

Bump... am I the only one bothered by this?

Am I?...

Rizlo said:
Am I?...
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Could be, I had a HTC HD2 and it suffered from that problem alot. numerous videos have been posted on youtube because of it as well.
One possible way of minimizing the problem is to electrically discharge your screen, by putting an electric conductor, such as metal on it to remove and negative/postive ions still hanging around. Read that up somewhere and it somewhat helped my HD2.
Personally i have only experienced once on my Sgs and have not been able to replicate it since.
If you have big fingers that could also be a problem as the touch sensor can't decide on where to locate your finger...

Thank you for your answer! The electrical conductor you mentioned should go somewhere to discharge though... I can't walk around with a ground wire hanging from my phone all the time Plus, I really believe it's software. I know it always goes there but... iPhones have similar technology but they always scroll smooth. maybe it's interpolation we're missing here.
Btw I have particularly small hands!

Discharging it only has to be done only when the problem seems to be worsening. just try not to place your entire thumb on it but rather use the tips of yours fingers, that way it doesnt jerk.

I have to say this problem is pretty consistent, hence not worsening (or improving) whatsoever in any circumstances. It's just not fluid, ah my Touch HD used to be, but that was because of poor GPU (driver); we know that can't possibly be the case here, and as a matter of fact, regardless of load, stuff in the background etc, it's there all the time.
But as soon as you release the fingertip, the "inertial" part of the scrolling just goes as smooth as possible.
So I'd dismiss the electrostatic explanation, it seems like it was a non-interpolated low touch resolution... except that it's not...

Hi Folks, I have noticed the same problem running eclair 2.1 with Ryan's one click lag fix applied (the lag fix did speed it up quite a bit too!). It seems to do it after coming out of 'sleep' mode i.e when I wake it up from blank 'screen saver'. After a few scrolls or taps it starts to smoothen out a bit, but still not as I would like it to be.... Just my observations and sorry I can't offer up any Solutions... Any word if 2.2 update will make things better? Also, does anyone know when the update will hit Australia?

Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.

xan said:
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
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'smoothing of touch input'? could you please expand on this?
BTW - I Never owned an iFone, and don't really go for it's comunistic ways... (although some people take comfort in it! )

Hm, touchscreen sends raw data to driver (noisy, with peaks) to driver. Driver cleans and interprets them.. (unless its done in TS firmware)
I think that more cleaning and smoothing at this stage would result in smother scrolling, but not-so-precise tracking (when drawing, etc).
I'm just speculating here, because I have no real knowledge about this.

OK... Although it seems like there is a delay in reloading to short term memory when coming out of hibernation? Would this sound like a place to start looking? if so, anyone have any ideas on how to manipulate this function?

Is the homescreen choppy for everyone?

I went to best buy a little while ago and they had a XOOM display sitting all by its lonesome getting no attention, so I went over to play around with it. The apps seemed very snappy, but switching between homescreens and flicking some of the widgets was quite jerky and choppy.
Is this everyone's experience, or was it just that one XOOM?

I haven't had problems with chop. I have noticed very minor stutters with some 3D effects, but they're barely noticeable.

My experience has been buttery smooth man.
No chop

Same here. Everything has been very smooth!

Interesting. I wonder if it was because it had been left on since 10am.
I even starting trashing widgets from the home screens until all that was left was a few app buttons. Didn't help any.

Mine is fine. The only thing I have noticed it that the screen rotation is slow.
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Screen rotation has always been slow on Android. Doesn't bother me.

Screen rotation on my infected evo is very fast. Almost too fast. Just Ned to wait for virus to make xoom roms. Won't happen but would be nice
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It's choppy/jittery for me using Dolphin Browser. I'm still playing with the thing, so I don't know what else is doing it.

When I put my Xoom in portrait mode, it is laggy for sure 100%, but in landscape is smooth.
Anyone else seeing this?

princeplanet said:
It's choppy/jittery for me using Dolphin Browser. I'm still playing with the thing, so I don't know what else is doing it.
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It's normal, Dolphin isn't yet accelerated by the GPU, like the Chrome browser.

Pretty smooth for me, I noticed a bit of choppiness, but it appears to be random.

I wonder if the demo unit at Best Buy is different. I know that it lost wifi connection with Best Buy's routers while I was there. I asked someone about this and they said it had something to do with the demo unit. Whether that was true or not, IDK, but it worked perfect with tethered to my phone over Wifi.

Lag Test Results Video

Hello guys,
I thought I'd start a new thread on this lag issue because I'd like people to try all the apps I tried and to post their results like this:
1/ App Drawer slow move - Same / Better / Worse
2/ Facebook feed - Same / Better / Worse
etc etc...
The YouTube video is HERE
A downloadable version (smoother than YouTube) is HERE
I'd be very interested to hear what you find. Also state whether you have Snapdragon or Exynos and which build..
Let the games begin!
Mark.

Is it jerking or buffering from a slow internet connection? I don't notice that much jerking on my Note 4 (Exynos), but I'm interested in seeing what other people say.

I have the Exynos and yes if I try to scroll really slowly it doesnt immediately respond but when would you ever want to scroll that slowly and to be fair it is a like a millisecond of lag, geez to me this device is a huge improvement on UI lag than any previous Samsung device I have owned. Just my opinion but it seems like nit picking at a non issue really, but of course thats your opinion.

homer285 said:
I have the Exynos and yes if I try to scroll really slowly it doesnt immediately respond but when would you ever want to scroll that slowly and to be fair it is a like a millisecond of lag, geez to me this device is a huge improvement on UI lag than any previous Samsung device I have owned. Just my opinion but it seems like nit picking at a non issue really, but of course thats your opinion.
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are you ok with the terrible jerky lag on facebook google+ pulse hangouts etc...??
I have a 73mb download on my phone, so no, the speed of the internet has zero to do with this.
Come on, how about more thorough testing guys, dont just defend your phone, it is a great phone, but I want to see some real testing!
Mark

fredphoesh said:
are you ok with the terrible jerky lag on facebook google+ pulse hangouts etc...??
I have a 73mb download on my phone, so no, the speed of the internet has zero to do with this.
Come on, how about more thorough testing guys, dont just defend your phone, it is a great phone, but I want to see some real testing!
Mark
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I'll be honest, I've just tried the same tests on the same apps (no Facebook, but the Pages app), and I'm not seeing the same lag. If there is any, it's a very minor stutter maybe once, that I'd attribute to buffering.
Are you on power Save or anything else that could be slowing the device down?
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EP2008 said:
I'll be honest, I've just tried the same tests on the same apps (no Facebook, but the Pages app), and I'm not seeing the same lag. If there is any, it's a very minor stutter maybe once, that I'd attribute to buffering.
Are you on power Save or anything else that could be slowing the device down?
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Hi
Nope, I have not tweaked anything on the phone, my Antutu scores are fine... and with the first Note4 I had, I tried ART and also choosing to Force GPU Rendering, but they made no difference.
Are you on snapdragon?
I guess the "buffering" is the whole problem. It seems touchwiz makes it worse, but then some apps are better than others, like the Air BnB test I did, it was very smooth even when photos were still being downloaded and rendered. There is a noticeable difference between my note 4 and my Nexus 5...

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Nope, I have not tweaked anything on the phone, my Antutu scores are fine... and with the first Note4 I had, I tried ART and also choosing to Force GPU Rendering, but they made no difference.
Are you on snapdragon?
I guess the "buffering" is the whole problem. It seems touchwiz makes it worse, but then some apps are better than others, like the Air BnB test I did, it was very smooth even when photos were still being downloaded and rendered. There is a noticeable difference between my note 4 and my Nexus 5...
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I have an Exynos device. Buffering is the only real lag that I see. Yes, there's a very slight stutter on certain lists (like my contacts, which has over 1500 people on it, most with photo avatars showing), but nothing like what I see in your video.

Performance Problems? Significant stuttering in Chrome, etc.

Overall, the performance on my Nexus is quite good, but I routinely run into stuttering on webpages in the Chrome Browser. A good example of this is theverge.com. If I wait for that website to load and scroll up and down at moderate or fast speeds, I run into some very significant stuttering.
Other webpages exhibit this problem to varying degrees, but I can almost always find some hint of it. Elsewhere on the phone, I can also see some stuttery elements, such as on the Play Store while browsing apps, or scrolling through a single app description.
Best as I can tell, these stutters seem to trigger as I am scrolling towards an image in both cases.
Anybody else experiencing this? Not sure if this is just how it is.

1. Wrong section to post....
2. Do you scroll before the page loads completely... Which case is expected...
3. I just opened theverge.com on nexus5 as 6p is still shipping... No issues... Can't really believe that 6p would stutter
4. Congrats for the new phone

No lag when scrolling on the verge for me.
I see it on Engadget but that is because their mobile site sucks and loads a couple articles at a time as you scroll. Not the phones fault there.

I haven't noticed any stutter or lag on any sites. Just when phone was installing apps on first boot.

No stuttering for me unless data is still loading in a low signal area. I often have multiple chrome tabs open and if they are fully loaded then I can scroll seamlessly.

Yeah I've experienced stutter here and there while using Chrome too. Check your cached processes to see how much free ram you have. I think mines generally smoother when I have more free ram there.

Definitely stutter and lag
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Overall, the performance on my Nexus is quite good, but I routinely run into stuttering on webpages in the Chrome Browser. A good example of this is theverge.com. If I wait for that website to load and scroll up and down at moderate or fast speeds, I run into some very significant stuttering.
Other webpages exhibit this problem to varying degrees, but I can almost always find some hint of it. Elsewhere on the phone, I can also see some stuttery elements, such as on the Play Store while browsing apps, or scrolling through a single app description.
Best as I can tell, these stutters seem to trigger as I am scrolling towards an image in both cases.
Anybody else experiencing this? Not sure if this is just how it is.
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You are not alone. I have noticed the same thing. Many instances of stutter and lag. This is definitely not a lag free device as many said it was. Chrome is fairly smooth but stutter is there sometimes. Facebook and play store are two of the worse culprits. I have tried clearing the cache, haven't factory reset because I have hardly any apps installed (no games). No phone is perfect but perormance is fairly good.

Jcomstock said:
You are not alone. I have noticed the same thing. Many instances of stutter and lag. This is definitely not a lag free device as many said it was. Chrome is fairly smooth but stutter is there sometimes. Facebook and play store are two of the worse culprits. I have tried clearing the cache, haven't factory reset because I have hardly any apps installed (no games). No phone is perfect but perormance is fairly good.
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Scrolling has almost been perfect for me . It's another story for my nexus 6 ,tho. Playstore always lags no matter what device you are browsing with. But it's barely noticeable on 6P.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/chrome-laggy-t3253466/page3 Might be this helps you

I have experienced this issue, but it seems to only happen when power-saver has kicked in (10% battery life for me).