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I am going to London for a few days and want to buy XDA II. I have spoken with a shop in London and they said that they have it in stock and start selling on 1 November. I need a piece of advice from those who live in UK. I was told that the phone will be sold with a contract only.
1. In order to buy a contracted phone, do I need only ID and credit card or I need a permanent address in the UK as well?
2. What is O2 policy on early contract termination? I could not find anything on their site.
3. If I pay cash and leave the country does it mean that I am not paying early contract termination fee since they do not have my credit card number and I am not the UK resident?
4. Any ideas how to buy XDA II in the UK at minimum price in my situation?
Many thanks.
I bought the XDA online.... (original)
When I went to register it with O2 they checked through the deal I did with the link....
If I had not confirmed the registration when I purchased the device I would have been billed the full amount after a certain time.
If you buy a phone they will run a credit check including where you worked last....
If you terminate early I know many people that have been billed the full price.
sorry but it appears you have no option here. catch 22 situation...
hope that helps.
Ian.
Sorry my English is not that good. What 22 situation means?
What if I ask a friend of mine who lives in UK to register on his name, can I pay with my own credit card or it must be his credit card? In this way I would pay the charges for early contract termination from my card. Depends how much it is à course. Anybody knows how much O2 charges for early contract termination?
catch 22 - from the film by the same name... I think
basically you do it one way... you get screwed, you do it the other... you get screwed.
If you get your friend to register it you might be able to get the registration transferred over but your friend would be putting a hell of a lot of faith in you.
The cost for early contract termination is the cost of the phone without contract plus any extra charges O2 wish to lay on you. The XDAII is what £700 without contract? (speculative price)
either way, I wouldnt like to be you or your friend when you terminate the contract early.
sorry,
Ian.
I've got an idea. I ask my friend to put XDA on his card and purchase the insurance for the phone as well, while I pay cash back to him. Then I leave the UK and he reports XDA stolen or lost and gets a brand new XDA for himself for free.
Is it very illegal in UK to do in this way?
I would prefer a more legal way to get around.
errr it would be very illegal...
like insurance fraud illegal...
if it wasn't everyone would be doing it...
please dont suggest that here again... :shock:
I had a feeling that it's illegal
But is there a legal way??? I would appreciate if somebody will give an idea how to do it legally. Somehow a lot of phones are getting out of the coutries of origin, get unlocked and sold. So there should be a way I believe.
lol how could it not be illegal i mean they have to give him 2 phones at the price of one
if it were not who would stop people from doing the same thing with cars
and figtherplanes for that matter
Nestinar said:
Somehow a lot of phones are getting out of the coutries of origin, get unlocked and sold. So there should be a way I believe.
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Yeah thats because the supplier can source the items from other dealers (like when buying MS software)
but that usually doesnt happen until the item in question has been out for a few months... with the XDAII being so new their will likely be limited availibility... so I'd imagine getting one with a contract below the RRP O2 is selling it for will be hard enough never mind buying once cheap without a contract.
the phone when released is subsidised by the operator in the hopes they can make up development costs with the contract. They may begin to release phones to other parties after this time but they wont so close after the release date.
Ian.
P.S hence why that XDAII on ebay is so dodgy... where the hell did he get it from? (if he actually has it in the first place)
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3270&highlight=ebay
There are phones available really soon after the initial release in the country of origin and sold usually in small shops (not chain mobile shops). That means that somehow the phones are purchased somewhere at low cost with a contract (operator's logo on the phone) and then shipped outside the country, get unlocked and sold. Which is probably not 100% legal scheme but if they can do in bulk means that there is more or less legal way to do it.
O2 are like pitbulls when the go after their money. I dont think they will allow early termination, so add up 13 months at the chosen tariff, put that in an account then each month it will be drawn at the monthly tariff by O2, when 12 months expire give 1 month notice and thats it. If it still seems cheap this way then good luck. Regarding the insurance claim, the phone companies now demand a written statement from the police and the owner, they have got very upset at all the claims and investigate each claim. I dont think a phone, no matter how desirable is worth a criminal record.
What is the situation with existing O2 customers? How much existing customers pay for a new XDA II?
Let's say my friend is an existing O2 customer and he buys XDA II. Can he sell it then to me and use the old handset instead?
I need some help
Cor I wonder about some of the Posts I read here.
Can anyone help me out with the Keys and combination for the Store room at O2 head quaters.
All plans and electrical documentation along with type of cctv and alarm systems would also be helpful..
If you work there then perhaps you could leave all of the stock on the Road outside the rear door. Please post a note here to let me know this information
I assume that it would not be so bad if I just rob them directly rather than do it behind their back.
Is that Legal.?. after all I am not making some bad insurance claim.
.... Well I am laughing....
Still on contract no problem their way to get around that. Only you need is a business (discount ) account. Call att (just say you want the 8525) tell them you want a price quotes for the phone. 8525 is 600, but regular customer don't really know about business discounts. So they will leave a note on your account for no 2 year contract price. (300) So hang up and call business care and talk a manager there is a note on my account for tech support manager and he look at your account and put in the order. Remember for tech support, that let know you had a problem with something .
freeborock said:
Still on contract no problem their way to get around that. Only you need is a business (discount ) account. Call att (just say you want the 8525) tell them you want a price quotes for the phone. 8525 is 600, but regular customer don't really know about business discounts. So they will leave a note on your account for no 2 year contract price. (300) So hang up and call business care and talk a manager there is a note on my account for tech support manager and he look at your account and put in the order. Remember for tech support, that let know you had a problem with something .
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got my 8525 for $99.99
But did you get it from your phone company for that price. If you did I can't say nothing else.
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bapski said:
got my 8525 for $99.99
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Where from?
Amazon.com had 8525s a few months back for $99, $149, and $199. Currently they are at $179.
These do require a new contract or a contract renewal if you are eligibile to renew.
freeborock said:
Still on contract no problem their way to get around that. Only you need is a business (discount ) account. Call att (just say you want the 8525) tell them you want a price quotes for the phone. 8525 is 600, but regular customer don't really know about business discounts. So they will leave a note on your account for no 2 year contract price. (300) So hang up and call business care and talk a manager there is a note on my account for tech support manager and he look at your account and put in the order. Remember for tech support, that let know you had a problem with something .
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Cheaper on ebay.....kind of goofy way ya got there.
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I got mine for free, I already had a wizard and as a customer retention thing, AT&T gave me one.
I paid 99 bucks from At&T
Madcap180 said:
I paid 99 bucks from At&T
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Premier > *
Madcap180 said:
I paid 99 bucks from At&T
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Same here - got mine back in early June online at ATT. A week later, they were $199.
The early bird gets the worm.
So, fairly pissed off now, and this makes no sense, but to promote Windows Mobile, Microsoft currently has a deal with T-Mobile to sell the G1 at $139 (I don't know if MS knows what they're doing...).
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/tmobile1/default.mspx
Click get the best deal, then "click here for discounts", then "Products", "Handhelds & PDAs", enter in a 3G zip code, and scroll down to G1. Apparently if you order over the phone, you can get just a 12 month contract as well.
Gary13579 said:
So, fairly pissed off now, and this makes no sense, but to promote Windows Mobile, Microsoft currently has a deal with T-Mobile to sell the G1 at $139 (I don't know if MS knows what they're doing...).
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/tmobile1/default.mspx
Click get the best deal, then "click here for discounts", then "Products", "Handhelds & PDAs", enter in a 3G zip code, and scroll down to G1. Apparently if you order over the phone, you can get just a 12 month contract as well.
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That is weird...they have all three colors too.
dude, presalers like us got ripped then
Dammit... What the heck is Microsoft doing anyways? Selling an/the Android phone?
I'm fairly sure Microsoft just told T-Mobile "We'll give a discount on PDA phones we send to your site", and since all their PDA phones used to run WM it was fine. I'm sure Microsoft will fix it soon; order it while you can.
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I'm fairly sure Microsoft just told T-Mobile "We'll give a discount on PDA phones we send to your site", and since all their PDA phones used to run WM it was fine. I'm sure Microsoft will fix it soon; order it while you can.
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damn im mad.. i could of saved like crazy
I wounder if that deal applies to people like me who already had a t-mobile plan (still love my dash) and had to pay $350 for the G1?
1 year contract?
After applying the phone to a family plan, I only see a set contract length of 2 years. Reading the descriptions for each category of plans, it says all plans require a 2 year contract...
am I missing something?
go through the whole process
This requires a 2 year contract. The only perk is the activation fee and the price. Walmart had the same deal a while back.
uhmmmmm read the first post...
order over the phone to get 1 yr...
its really surprising how many people on xda-developers can't comprehend common english...
What a nasty way to rip us off with their pre-orders? I don´t get what Microsoft has to do with this.
Maybe they're doing it with the belief that Android is an inferior OS and that this low price will entice enough people to buy it, then their combined bad experience will reach the critical mass required to delay the implementation of Android and the consequent dilution of their market share.
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Maybe they're doing it with the belief that Android is an inferior OS and that this low price will entice enough people to buy it, then their combined bad experience will reach the critical mass required to delay the implementation of Android and the consequent dilution of their market share.
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T-Mobile wouldn't let them intentionally do this. I say again, this is likely nothing more than an error on Microsofts end.
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T-Mobile wouldn't let them intentionally do this. I say again, this is likely nothing more than an error on Microsofts end.
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I think the error is on t-mobiles end. Since it is their website that shows the info.
http://extranet.t-mobile.com/tmobile-exc/epp/home.do
neoobs said:
I think the error is on t-mobiles end. Since it is their website that shows the info.
http://extranet.t-mobile.com/tmobile-exc/epp/home.do
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T-Mobile will just sell phones at the price Microsoft says, because Microsoft will refund them for the discounts. And I'm sure MS is paying full MSRP on the phones, aka if T-Mobile were to sell a new phone with new contract they'd only be making $179, where as if they sell the phone for Microsoft they are making the full $399. Consumer pays less, but T-Mobile gets more.
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uhmmmmm read the first post...
order over the phone to get 1 yr...
its really surprising how many people on xda-developers can't comprehend common english...
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T-mo is supposedly no longer doing 1 year contracts through this or similar discounted plans. If you contact them they won't honor the 1 year contract that is stated on the Microsoft site. According to the 2 or 3 T-mo reps I spoke with, there was a big hub-bub about this a few months ago and they decided to no longer offer them as part of these discounted plans. Take it for what it's worth.
As to the device being cheaper through Microsoft, it's not an offer exclusive to them. T-mo offers corporate/organizational discounts to many groups. Check with your employer or search around the net for groups you're eligible for (they're not too difficult to find). They often include a discount on monthly fees in addition to the hardware discount.
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As to the device being cheaper through Microsoft, it's not an offer exclusive to them. T-mo offers corporate/organizational discounts to many groups. Check with your employer or search around the net for groups you're eligible for (they're not too difficult to find). They often include a discount on monthly fees in addition to the hardware discount.
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Yep. I got mine for $139 in store (in stock) with no activation fee. Plus 12% off per month. I just told them my employer up front (well .. I asked for the discount, since I knew we got one).
I was surprised that they never asked for any type of proof.
This is for new LINE ONLY, meaning you will lose your existing phone number and no you cant get a new line and then port your old number to the new line and cancel the old one. There is no porting within the same carrier required by law and they wont do it for you, I tried.
I used this last year to get my WING for $50 with actually no rebate back then. While everyone was stuck with 2 year contract, I got it for 1 year contract and that is why I was eligible for the G1 at $179.
Great deal and thank Microsoft!
tried to go through the process, and it looks like you have to get their data plan if you try to do it online...
btw, how do i know if my employer qualifies for discount?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...rs-porting-their-numbers-from-other-carriers/
Can someone weigh in on this? I was talking to a friend, wishing that cellphone companies would offer some sort of incentive to switch carriers. I found this just now and was wondering what anyone knew about this credit and/or any incentives for switching carriers. Since I currently have an iPhone something like this would be a boon.
EDIT: Also how does the phone number porting work. If I want to take my AT&T number with me, do I have to contact AT&T first and/or cancel my AT&T plan prior to signing up for the EVO with Sprint. I'd rather minimize downtime.
EDIT: NVM that. Found the info http://www.fcc.gov/cib/consumerfacts/numbport.html That's an easy process.
That would be nice, as I'm coming from T-mobile.
Welp, just got out of a chat with a Sprint CSA on the website. Apparently I'm elligible for the $100 port credit. I'm coming from AT&T.
That'll be nice.
I spoke to a sprint rep and was told the so called port credit was in the form of the $150 you get off the price of the phone. So the evo is 450-150 to get down to the $300 price minus the 100 mir for the final $200 for new customers.
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I spoke to a sprint rep and was told the so called port credit was in the form of the $150 you get off the price of the phone. So the evo is 450-150 to get down to the $300 price minus the 100 mir for the final $200 for new customers.
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This rep misunderstood or lied to you. The 150$ is for anyone who signs a 2 year contract regardless of whether you come from another carrier, or are already on Sprint.
I called specifically asking about any $100 credit for porting over from T-Mobile. They told me that there WAS an incentive being offered to port over but it expired a few weeks ago. The only "credit" available is this $150 discount.
Anyone have concrete info on this?
I talked to a Sprint rep, and they said I would be elligible for it on June 4th. Either way, who cares. When you get it, throw your number in the site and see what happens!
ive been reading its only for business customers but I am definitely gonna try for it
Heres some help guys. After you port your number(s) you have 72 hours to go here:
http://sprintportcredit.com/
What doesn't make sense is the credit for one number per month. I will call when June 4th comes.
I don't buy it.
that website looks MIGHTY fishy to me!
I think they are fishing for people's cellnumbers and email addresses.
Registrant:
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Domain Name: SPRINTPORTCREDIT.COM
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droideveloper said:
that website looks MIGHTY fishy to me!
I think they are fishing for people's cellnumbers and email addresses.
Registrant:
Deardorff Communications
887 W. Marietta St.
Atlanta, GA 30318
US
Domain Name: SPRINTPORTCREDIT.COM
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Promote your business to millions of viewers for only $1 a month
Learn how you can get an Enhanced Business Listing here for your domain name.
Learn more at http://www.NetworkSolutions.com/
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Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Jones, David [email protected]
Deardorff
887 W. Marietta St.
Suite T-107
Atlanta, GA 30318
US
404-881-6502
Record expires on 09-Sep-2010.
Record created on 09-Sep-2009.
Database last updated on 17-May-2010 21:31:04 EDT.
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DNS1.NETTICA.COM 64.94.136.11
DNS2.NETTICA.COM 64.237.45.34
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Yeah I perhaps should have specified when I wanted people to weigh in. I thought it was fishy and that's what I wanted people to weigh in on. I'm sure the manager at the mobile section of best buy will know if they have something like that. If not I'll ask a Sprint Rep.
WTF so you're saying sprintportcredit.com is a phishing site? How are you able to tell who that domain is registered to? I called Sprint and even told them the website and the rep stated "Yeah go there after you port your number".
What does the scammer have to gain by going to that website and mistakenly entering your number?
Ive asked several Sprint reps in person at different stores about this and they all say the credit is for business customers only.
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Ive asked several Sprint reps in person at different stores about this and they all say the credit is for business customers only.
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It says so right on that site as well.
Well I'll call the Sprint Porting Department and demand that they give me a porting credit. They'll want my business so in the end the customer wins.
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Well I'll call the Sprint Porting Department and demand that they give me a porting credit. They'll want my business so in the end the customer wins.
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Just curious, why do you feel you're entitled to the credit if you dont meet the criteria for it?
Because I'm willing to port 4 numbers from AT&T to Sprint. They need the business and they will give me a credit. I work for AT&T so I know how these things work. I will also be getting a CORP discount from one of my relatives on my account who works for Bank of America. It's a 36% discount. I believe I fit the criteria.
gqstatus0685 said:
Because I'm willing to port 4 numbers from AT&T to Sprint. They need the business and they will give me a credit. I work for AT&T so I know how these things work. I will also be getting a CORP discount from one of my relatives on my account who works for Bank of America. It's a 36% discount. I believe I fit the criteria.
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From the sprintportcredit.com eligibility requirements:
Service credit request must be made at https://www.sprintportcredit.com within 72 hours from the port-in activation date for your Service Credit Request. Service credit is available only to eligible corporate-liable accounts. Promo requires 2-year contract agreement outside of hierarchy/special contract terms. Must port in from an active wireless line and remain active on original account number for 61 days in order to receive full service credit. You should continue paying your bill while waiting for your service credit to avoid service disruption and possible credit delay.
Credits apply to all devices that have an associated mobile number and come through the port process. Promotion excludes port ins from providers currently associated with Sprint. Excludes all Individual Liable, Seasonal Standby, and Special Government Rate Plans less than $10 (e.g., U3169, U3169H, U3169D, C1266).
Unless you're activating 4 lines in your business' name, the it would seem that you dont. But good luck to you, it never hurts to try!
EDIT: I'm not trying to be a ****, just pointing out the actual terms for this credit. If you can pull it off, more power to ya.
Didn't someone already point that website out as a phishing site? Someone stated that sprintportcredit.com wasn't an official Sprint site.
yes, but that site is the basis of this thread. Look at the first link the OP posted.
Any tips or suggestions on how I can buy a tmobile note 3? How can I be sure it's a good esn/imei without it being reported stolen from tmobile?
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snoopycr said:
Any tips or suggestions on how I can buy a tmobile note 3? How can I be sure it's a good esn/imei without it being reported stolen from tmobile?
Sent from my C6602
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Its difficult to buy phone off craigslist these days. All the major network are beginning to share banned esn/imei numbers.
The scam usually goes like this: people buy phone up to 6 lines either for AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, or Sprint for free. They then turn around and sell the phones on Craigslist. They either not go through with the 2 years comminment or in T-mobile's case just not finish paying the finance payments.
Here are the steps to protect yourself (at least for T-Mobile):
1) Agree on a price before meeting.
2) Tell the seller you want a payoff receipt form T-moible showing the phone being paid-off.
3) Meet the seller at a corporate T-Mobile store.
Check imei (goole and you will find a free site to check imei).
****The seller hasto be the original purchaser of the phone or management will not be able to access finance / account info.*****
Comfirm with manager that the informations on the receipt is correct and account is clear.
***Have manager call insurance to cancel policy.*** Then confirm with manager, making sure that the seller can not reactivate the policy.
Bring a bill of sale form for seller to fillout. Write a check make out the the seller. Have seller sign over the check. The check will be a formal receipt should there be an issue down the road.
And lastly when possible, have manager document the transaction on your account.