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Free 8525 if you have a premier account

Order the phone, a voice plan ($32.99+), and a data plan ($20.24+) and the price of the phone changes to 0.00
I was trying to get a tytn but ebay and other sites weren't being friendly.

you can also get the moto S9 headset for $104 with free shipping ... i love the premier site

Sorry if this is a stupid question but what site are you reffering to?

att (cingular) premier. Your company or school must qualify.

thxxxxxxxxxxxxx do you think i can cancel the PDA data plan after a month if i dont like the speed of the data? and just keep the voice plan with the phone?

CRB said:
thxxxxxxxxxxxxx do you think i can cancel the PDA data plan after a month if i dont like the speed of the data? and just keep the voice plan with the phone?
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I am pretty sure that cingular gives you 30 days to try anything - any handset, any service.

i know a couple of people that have ordered phones with plans and data to get them cheap, then as soon as they activate their account they can go into OLAM (Online Account Manager) and cancel the data plan... and dont get charged for the phone, etc..

Very nice! If only I needed another line...

Trancecoder said:
Very nice! If only I needed another line...
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well... get a free phone, wait 30 days, sell the phone on ebay for 300-400 and pay the cheaper ETF... i cant see loosing

I got my 8525 like 2 months ago and I was premier eligible but when I saw the price I laughed and didn't add the data and voice to see it go to 0.00.
What kind of argument do you think I can make to cingular to see if they will refund me the phone price? I was able to get the phone for 225 before mail in rebate (100 Dollars) through cingular's tech support. However, do you think I have a shot at getting that 225 back because I have been workign for a company that was and has been certified to qualify for this program.

afguard17 said:
I got my 8525 like 2 months ago and I was premier eligible but when I saw the price I laughed and didn't add the data and voice to see it go to 0.00.
What kind of argument do you think I can make to cingular to see if they will refund me the phone price? I was able to get the phone for 225 before mail in rebate (100 Dollars) through cingular's tech support. However, do you think I have a shot at getting that 225 back because I have been workign for a company that was and has been certified to qualify for this program.
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i dont think you will be able to get the 225$ back, cause phone prices go down over time as newer models come out . imagine everybody wanting thier money back on a phone that is offered for free now...

upgrading in premier
hey in premier how many upgrades can you do???

cruelneo said:
hey in premier how many upgrades can you do???
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depends on the agreement with your company, etc... i believe that att employee's can do 4 upgrades per line per 12 months...

Unless there are different deals for different companies, which there may very well be, the deal that I see is a free 8500, I don't see the same free option for the 8525

I also checked my Premier account, and it didn't show any deals like are being talked about on the 8525. I then called AT&T Premier cust. service and was told that the Premier accounts are different for all companies and educational institutions. Each "store is unique".

yeah they are different. Some have ETF and some dont. You have to add the phone and data packages for the phone to go to $0.

Just checked my premiere and it changed to zero after adding everything also but I bought my 8525 when it first came out so I'm not upset.
I'll be waiting for the replacement before I try and upgrades..

some have reported using different emails and getting multiple phones (1 per email) and then combining them on a family plan.

I used 1 email address (my wifes) and bought 4 phones for different family members. Each one had different billing info, and I called at&t and had each one added to the family plan of that family member. Of note is that as these all required having a pre-existing numbers ported to them I had to go down to the local AT&T shop and pickup new (3g capable) sim cards. They noted in my account and I got these free of course.
I kept the data plans, so I can not speak to that.
My only suggestion in dealing with AT&T is if you are canceling an old (out of contract) line, deal with that after you have done the porting. Imply that you are simply switching the numbers as you want to use this new phone as your primary. Once that is all taken care of, cancel the old line. Otherwise they may give you a bit of grief about inter-company number porting, its BS, but that doesn't stop them.

tmobile unlimited loyalty plan is nationwide now

tmobile's unlimited loyalty plan, which was only available in the Sanfransico area is now nationwide as of march 02 2009. those who qualify are people that have been tmobile customers for longer than 22 months and have a good payment history.

sprime01 said:
tmobile's unlimited loyalty plan, which was only available in the Sanfransico area is now nationwide as of march 02 2009. those who qualify are people that have been tmobile customers for longer than 22 months and have a good payment history.
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Yeah, been that way for a couple months now

I had it, now I dont see it on mine when I sign on... I called Tmo the other day for my G1 acting up and it asked if I wanted to do it and I said later. Is it still in affect?

Ended up not being cheaper for me.
Seems like every time T-mobile offers an upgrade, it cost me an extra 10 bucks. I guess if I didn't have myfaves for both phones, then it would prolly be in my best interest to have it.

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Yeah, been that way for a couple months now
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not true...i've been in good standing with t-mo for 7 years+. when i called last month to inquire, they said it was only open to "select" customers...even today, when i log onto the website, the unlimited plan still shows $99.99. wtf?? i have been with these fools since 2001!
i've sent an email to t-mo just now. i'll advise as soon as i hear back.

mariod1269 said:
not true...i've been in good standing with t-mo for 7 years+. when i called last month to inquire, they said it was only open to "select" customers...even today, when i log onto the website, the unlimited plan still shows $99.99. wtf?? i have been with these fools since 2001!
i've sent an email to t-mo just now. i'll advise as soon as i hear back.
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I work in a store and have run into this issue. I thought it was people who have been with us for 22 months or more but I guess there are some hidden factors there. The only thing I can think of is if you had your service suspended. Other than that I can't think of anything else that would effect it.

speoples20 said:
I work in a store and have run into this issue. I thought it was people who have been with us for 22 months or more but I guess there are some hidden factors there. The only thing I can think of is if you had your service suspended. Other than that I can't think of anything else that would effect it.
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i don't think my service has been suspended any time in the past 4+ years...i'm wondering if it's because i don't ever use anywhere near my current plan's 1500 minutes.
here's the log of my chat session with T-Mo CS:
me: can you tell me why i don't qualify for the "unlimited loyalty" plan? i have been with t-mobile for nearly 8 years.
CSR: Today, this offer is available only to selected customers.
CSR: T-Mobile runs promotional offers and test offers that are available to different groups of customers, and at this time, your account does not qualify.
CSR: In the future, your account may be eligible for similar type offers. For some of our test offers, whether or not we extend these offers beyond the initial qualified group depends on response from our customers.
CSR: The exact criteria used for the promotion is not available as many different pieces of criteria were considered when selecting the specific audience available for this promotion.
me: so there are no specifics as to why i don't qualify after more than 7 years as a t-mobile customer?
CSR: This is a promotional offer only available for a short time
CSR: Based on the response to this offer, we hope to extend it to a wider audience in the future.
me: thank you for your help.

mariod1269 said:
i don't think my service has been suspended any time in the past 4+ years...i'm wondering if it's because i don't ever use anywhere near my current plan's 1500 minutes.
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Its probably nothing you've done or your usage just a stupid system. The only other thing I can think of is if you changed your number anytime in the last 2 years. If not keep bugging customer care till they give it to you.

speoples20 said:
Its probably nothing you've done or your usage just a stupid system. The only other thing I can think of is if you changed your number anytime in the last 2 years. If not keep bugging customer care till they give it to you.
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i did change my number, but it was 5 years ago when i moved to california. i just edited my previous message to add the chat session i had with a csr. it seems qualification is random...like i said, i go nowhere near my plan minutes now (1500 for $49.99) so i'm not really missing out on anything...it's just...if they're gonna reward people for their "loyalty", i certainly want to be recognized for my 80 months of loyalty!!

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i did change my number, but it was 5 years ago when i moved to california. i just edited my previous message to add the chat session i had with a csr. it seems qualification is random...like i said, i go nowhere near my plan minutes now (1500 for $49.99) so i'm not really missing out on anything...it's just...if they're gonna reward people for their "loyalty", i certainly want to be recognized for my 80 months of loyalty!!
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My understanding is that this is the unlimited Loyalty plan is not available to business/corporate lines (which is what your account is if you are getting a discount through your employer.) It is somewhat hard to get positive confirmation of this though. The eligibility requirements on the web are vague. I have been w/ T-Mobile since 2001 and I was offered the option.

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My understanding is that this is the unlimited Loyalty plan is not available to business/corporate lines (which is what your account is if you are getting a discount through your employer.) It is somewhat hard to get positive confirmation of this though. The eligibility requirements on the web are vague. I have been w/ T-Mobile since 2001 and I was offered the option.
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ahh...that makes sense...in january my company sent an email to all associates telling us we can receive a 10% discount on our t-mo bill. i called and gave the CSR the code. i bet they then switched me to a corporate account.
things are getting clearer...but why couldn't the CSR tell me that today?

sounds like they were just giving you a standard response without even really looking at your account.

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Seems like every time T-mobile offers an upgrade, it cost me an extra 10 bucks. I guess if I didn't have myfaves for both phones, then it would prolly be in my best interest to have it.
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I feel the same way. I like the idea of having unlimited minutes but I have more than enough with myfaves and my 600 minutes right now. I almost never touch the 600 in a month with Nights and weekends on there.
I think, if you believe i'm so "loyal" and you want to offer me a "deal" make it something cheaper than what I already use.
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meental said:
sounds like they were just giving you a standard response without even really looking at your account.
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finally, a "non standard" response. i received an email today telling me that i do, in fact, qualify for the unlimited loyalty plan, but i would lose my corporate discount. then the CSR said she reviewed my usage and recommended that i stay at my current plan. she told me that i'd save $10.70/mo if i do NOT switch.
Cathy H 7284060, at t-mo, if you are reading this, you rock.

T-Mobile - Nexus One - Family plan customers petition

Well I'm one of those people, id personally like this to change because its like slap in face to people with families and hell ive been customer for 4 years.
Check it out and sign it if you agree.
petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/nexusone/
Engadet
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
Google Forum complaints
http://www.google.ru/support/forum/...a8&hl=en&fid=3c0fd3870ec370a800047c7f82ebdf02
Google's Stock droped 2.5% at release
http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:GOOG

Have you, by chance, checked out the new plans yet? They're pretty good, and I moved away from our MyFaves plan to an unlimited everything plan for two lines.
As for the upgrade pricing, I think the problem lies in the complexities of the family plans themselves and Google being able to interact with them. This is more like getting a phone online from Amazon than anything else, where it becomes quite difficult specifying all the options that you want. I'm getting the impression that with the simplified plans from T-Mobile, you'll see more "deals" like this in the future, and hopefully the multi-line/family plans won't be so complicated for a 3rd party like Google to pick up and interact with using a short lead time.

I am thinking I will use my upgrade for something like the BB9700 and sell it on ebay to subsidize this phone. I know it's not the preferred option, but I'm not leaving my family plan anytime soon. I might as well use the subsidy.

To complicated? Comon now you cant tell me a company with xxx$ stock price per share cant make a site capable of efficiently checking plans that are more complex then 500min plans for t mobile.

all i can say is wow
i mean ive been a T-Mobile customer for 8 or 9 years and I have a family plan. What up tmo? this is Bull**** for you most loyal customers, if it wasnt for us you wouldnt even be 3rd or 4th in the US. Wouldnt you beyond everyone else think of us first? I dont know if its just me but that just makes sence

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To complicated? Comon now you cant tell me a company with xxx$ stock price per share cant make a site capable of efficiently checking plans that are more complex then 500min plans for t mobile.
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Add my name to this petition. Also, I'm not buying the argument that it's too "complicated" to offer more than one plan and family plans. If I go to Wirefly or Amazon, or any in store 3rd party retailers, I can sign up for family plans, or upgrade existing eligible contract lines that are already on family plans. Every other example of a subsidized phone sold in the US works on a family plan. Why is it too complicated for Google?

what gets to me is im loyal tmobile customer, i tell people to get them even if sometimes there not most reliable network. Also ive owned first android phone g1, now how have mytouch both at release and now i wanted to get nexus one and i cant because i have corporate discount (military) and family plan its just unbelievable to me u know.
I just talked to tmobile again and told them i may cancel my lines with them because really what do i need tmobile now for? honestly... I was told by representative that There is not solid news yet but he thinks google will adjust things over next while to make this a little more friendly.

Also added another google support link where everyone is posting. Its in my first post edited.

Google is selling and subsidizing the phone. The stipulations on how you can get a discount seems to be theirs as well, and not TMo's. If you don't like the terms, you can always pay full price and keep using whatever plan you want. At least if you activate a new line with the Nexus, TMo will still let you upgrade your plan if you want more minutes.
Since when does anybody sell anything for what people think they're entitled to pay? I don't want to get ripped off on a Mac, so you know what? They should charge what I'm willing to pay or I won't buy one. Maybe I'll start a petition. . .

Yeah your right, But the subsidizing is ripoff to tmobiles customers... OK New customers here have ****ty plan and nice new phone, while people that have been there multiple years have corporate discount and family plan are screwed. T-mobile doesnt take responsiblity for this and blames google, But really.. Both companies are benefiting from this Tmobile is getting more customers from differenet network carriers and Google is ripping off all the current customers for 530$.
Say what you will but thats how it is, very few people that are existing customers can even get any type of discount.

Understand Google's Business Model...
Google, has you sign a contract for them, and t-mobile for the subsidy. Google does not forbid users to change the t-mobile plan (nor does tmobile), after purchase of the phone so this petition is simply an act of idiocy. Simply put, buy the phone subsidized for $180, with the plan google has set up (79.99,web+text), then call a tmobile rep and ask them to merge the line with your current family plan, and cancel the current google plan, this works 100%, you will not have to pay ETF or pay Google $350, because you are only altering the plan terms, not the contract agreement. If you desire more min or want to cancel texting, call rep and ask them to bump you to an unlimited min/1000 min plan, without texting. You will get a subsidy and your desired plan. If you think that I am lying call a tmobile rep, they will tell you to do the same thing. Many people are complaining about this because they dont understand Google's business model, they obviously realized that a preset-500min plan would not eagerly sell, so people would buy unsubsidized, but at the same time they do not put in their terms of service that you cannot manipulate plan terms with tmobile, so basically for those of you who are a little more informed, this is in no way a limitation but more of an illusion of one.

T-Mobile is not selling the phone. T-Mobile is just offering the service. You can do the above EASILY with an individual plan. It's just sad that T-Mobile has to get blamed for everyone elses screw ups. The Sidekick disaster was mostly blamed on T-Mobile and they had nothing to do with it. Just sad.

roteplex said:
Google, has you sign a contract for them, and t-mobile for the subsidy. Google does not forbid users to change the t-mobile plan (nor does tmobile), after purchase of the phone so this petition is simply an act of idiocy. Simply put, buy the phone subsidized for $180, with the plan google has set up (79.99,web+text), then call a tmobile rep and ask them to merge the line with your current family plan, and cancel the current google plan, this works 100%, you will not have to pay ETF or pay Google $350, because you are only altering the plan terms, not the contract agreement. If you desire more min or want to cancel texting, call rep and ask them to bump you to an unlimited min/1000 min plan, without texting. You will get a subsidy and your desired plan. If you think that I am lying call a tmobile rep, they will tell you to do the same thing. Many people are complaining about this because they dont understand Google's business model, they obviously realized that a preset-500min plan would not eagerly sell, so people would buy unsubsidized, but at the same time they do not put in their terms of service that you cannot manipulate plan terms with tmobile, so basically for those of you who are a little more informed, this is in no way a limitation but more of an illusion of one.
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Are you 100% sure you can merge there Plan with new activation to a old family plan, Like merging accounts?

Yes merging 2 lines into one family plan has been possible for ages, but most people just don't know of it. If you have and old family plan, with lets say 3 people(you being one of them), you buy the nexus one phone subsidized, and transfer your number, (auto-canceling your line in the family account), your family account now has 2 lines, or if you dont transfer, then simply manually terminate one line. (note if you are still in contract with tmobile on your old plan you will have to pay ETF for line cancellation.) You now have one family plan, with 2 lines and your Nexus One phone with its own line. Call Tmobile and ask them to add the Nexus One line under your old family plan and presto, you have your old family plan back, with a brand new spanking Nexus One. Again if you don't believe this, call tmobile and have them walk-you-through it.
Note once more that Google could have easily stopped this, but they didn't. So, to conclude, there are no limitations as far as plans with Nexus One (other than the data plan, standard for smartphones), anything else are mere delusions and the petitions going around are for morons, end of story. For all who complain about upgrade pricing, there were never any good prices for upgrades. ie never upgrade but start new accounts and cancel your old ones, and wait till your contract is over for a new phone, you will not regret it. You don't have to be a new customer, but you just need a new account to get the full subsidy.
I love Google and I always have. I expected nothing less from them, they are merely trying to uproot carrier dependency in America. In EU, vast numbers of people would pay $500 for a phone like the Nexus One because they know they can get a cheap ass pay-as-you go plans. And many still decide to get contracts because carriers offer real-world subsidies, phones like the TG01, can be bought through orange on a 45 dollar, 900 min, unlimited text and internet plan for FREE, check it now on orange uk. In America, you have to pay 200, for the droid, and at the same time pay $30 just for data not including expensive per min plans. The big 4 continue a monopoly in America by leading people to think that they still have large numbers of maintenance fees for their equipment, but in reality they make nearly 85% profit from hefty charges, and still want you to pay for texting when it should really be for free, because it is for them. The American cell market is in the ****, really.

It wont auto cancel the other line, through the google site. It says my family plan does not qualify.
And i cant buy nexus one on different account cause i think google checks tmobile with social numbers.

Also on engadet now added link to first post.

I am curious to get a confirmation that this method works...
I just paid for the unsub N1 because I am on a family plan. However I would have no problem sending it back and from what I understand:
1. get my line off the family plan
2. order the unsub phone with new contract
3. call tmo and have them put me back on the family plan
4. new contract for sub phone disappears and everything is back to normal and i just got a sub phone with NO change from what i had before
essentially this is a workaround to get the subsidized phone?

yes that is how this workaround can be put to use, note only your line on your old family line will have a contract agreement, and a data plan is still required so if you didnt have one before, add $30 to your plan. You can verify the method with tmobile.

well that adds a bit of flavor to my situation of having paid for an unsubsidized phone already...

shata said:
Well I'm one of those people, id personally like this to change because its like slap in face to people with families and hell ive been customer for 4 years.
Check it out and sign it if you agree.
petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/nexusone/
Engadet
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/
Google Forum complaints
http://www.google.ru/support/forum/...a8&hl=en&fid=3c0fd3870ec370a800047c7f82ebdf02
Google's Stock droped 2.5% at release
http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:GOOG
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Thanks for posting. Read & signed the petition.
This isn't T-Mobile's fault and the petition was worded towards TMO like they control Google's sales page. My comment in my signature was for TMO to pressure Google to change it's subsidized eligibility process to include customers in good standing for 22+ months (the standard upgrade eligibility period). Shouldn't matter if you're on a family plan or not. That's bull****.
I wanted to get this phone for myself and my wife, but it looks like that will have to wait for who knows how long now.
Sad -- this could have finally shut the iPhone crowd up.

Best place to get a Vibrant off contract

I've been following the Galaxy S and Vibrant releases for a while and love the Vibrant. I however have a problem concerning plans. Since I will only be using its Internet capabilities where I have Wi-Fi (college, home, work), I have no need or desire for a data plan. T-Mobile REQUIRES new devices are sold with data plans so my question is.
1.Would getting a Vibrant from Ebay (for ~$500) and using my old SIM be the best option?
2. Can I just walk into a Tmobile store and tell them I want to purchase a RETAIL ($500) Vibrant with no contract or SIM and get one that way (or are they going to add a data plan and ask me for my Tmobile line credentials to do so)?
3. Is getting a Vibrant on contract for $200 + data plan and then cancelling the contract after the 15th day the cheapest option?
I suppose I would prefer to buy it from Tmobile, even at retail price since I get the manufacturer insurance of 1 year (have needed it before) free though if not possible, Ebay is an option too. I'm just looking at getting it as cheap as possible without having to do a 2-year data plan contract.
Thx.

I bought it at T-mobile off contract, however i made some other account changes while i was there so not sure if they require anything account wise when buying off contract.

I see. What kind of changes did you make? Adding a data plan or something else?
Do you think I can walk into a store, and buy a Vibrant for $500 WITHOUT providing any account information so that they cannot associate my account with the phone?
I'd like to keep my contract AS IS currently, and if possible not renew it (it just passed the 2 years mark so I can technically get a discounted phone if I renew it but I do not like T-Mobile's new contracts. I have unlimited texting on my line through a Family plan)

you might try asking this over in the the Tmobile vibrant forum
i believe you can cancel the data plan after or during the first month but i'm not the expert

costco WAS selling Vibrants off-contract (even more plans) for $229. not sure if its still ongoing.

Either costco or t-mobile. At costco they have to tie it it to a new phone line, which you can cancel at any time since you aren't under contact, pretty sure there is no fee.
I opted to but at tmo, and have the price split up over 20 payments interest free. I already had an existing android plan though.

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costco WAS selling Vibrants off-contract (even more plans) for $229. not sure if its still ongoing.
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Even More plans are contract plans. Are you talking about Even More Plus plans?
Go by a T-Mobile store and ask or call their customer service. You'll get a much better answer straight from the horse's mouth than you will from here.
I've heard about people trying to get a discounted phone with a new contract or making changes to their plan so they qualify and then immediately change things around in a manner that would disqualify them from the discount after they got it and then T-Mobile hit them with the remaining amount for the full price of the phone in their next bill. I guess it's their way of saying "cheaters never prosper".

If I buy it from Tmobile with ANY sort of contract...Even more Plus or Even More, they WILL add a data plan to it. There is also activation fees for a new line so not only will I have to pay the $500 for an even more plus plan, but I would have to CANCEL the line...in that case I may as well get it off of Ebay and save myself the hassle of all that.

The T-Mo forums are really helpful with everything other than development. Try there or stop at an official T-Mo store. The third party official partner places get paid to sell contracts. I've had some bad experiences on eBay and had to go to resolution with the seller twice on pre-smartphone phones, so beware.

What kind of bad experiences exactly?

If I were you and looking for a SGS I'd buy the full model that has all the extras... or possibly even the version with a slide out keyboard and ffc. The SGS Pro i believe it is.
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What kind of bad experiences exactly?
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Wrong carrier on one occasion and got a refurbished instead of new phone the other time. I have gotten good deals as well, so it's a crapshoot. I probably didn't screen the seller as well as I should have, just looked at the overall rating.
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you could probably call tmo or stop in to a tmo corp store and ask, I find they are usually very helpful about things like this. side note i actually had a long conversation w/ the rep at the store when i bought my vibrant about cyanogenmod and phone modding, which he has done to his phones.

OMG, costco was selling this for $250 no contract and noone spread the good news. SHAME ON YOU ALL.
Know if i can still get it @ 250?
if you find any good deals please post it here. thanks

engineer14 said:
OMG, costco was selling this for $250 no contract and noone spread the good news. SHAME ON YOU ALL.
Know if i can still get it @ 250?
if you find any good deals please post it here. thanks
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Nope. A memo was sent out and they raised the price Tuesday morning to $479. Think the $250 was a pricing error.

The best deal is with Bing cashback! $325
Go to bing.com
search for tmobile (you should see gold dollar sign w 35% off)
click on the link to tmobile site then do your shopping
I got my phone for $325 and on top of that, 35% off activation and the $59 plan.
so my total saving was $208
But bing is ending its cashback program at the end of july so better hurry!

I don't see the gold $ when I search t-mobile nor when I do my shopping after clicking through bing do I get the discount.
Is there supposd to be some code you put? Is it possible for you to just post a link?

too bad Bing cashback is gone at the end of the month.
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hpz937 said:
you could probably call tmo or stop in to a tmo corp store and ask, I find they are usually very helpful about things like this. side note i actually had a long conversation w/ the rep at the store when i bought my vibrant about cyanogenmod and phone modding, which he has done to his phones.
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I went to check the phone out the phone at a local store and someone was playing with the demo so the rep let me play with his personal phone. I noticed he had the su app installed lol
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engineer14 said:
OMG, costco was selling this for $250 no contract and noone spread the good news. SHAME ON YOU ALL.
Know if i can still get it @ 250?
if you find any good deals please post it here. thanks
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I totally agree! I recently switched our 5 phones over from AT&t and we went with Even More Plus because it's cheaper in the long run and no contract. However, we had to pay full price for the phones. Two of them were basic flip phones, but three of them were Samsung Vibrants at $500 apiece. We bought them at a T-Mobile corporate store and the most they did for us was waive the activation fee (which I found out would have been done anyway as a AAA member) and give us one free car charger when we bought the other two. We shelled out $1500 for the three Vibrants and we could have paid $750 at Costco!!!!! We're still in our 14 day return period, obviously, so if this is all true I'm going to call T-Mobile and see what can be done.

Curious

I am just curious but i was thinking, I have a droid incredible, I think it is one of the better android phones out. I played with Samsung fascinate, droid, droid pro, moto x. So what i am curious about is if a company release a new version why don't they offer it at a discounted rate?
Yes i know a company such as HTC needs to make money on the device, but they would keep me as a customer and i would still pay for the phone, just upgrading. The Verizon discounted rate is a joke.
Or offer the phone as an upgrade from the manufacturer 2 weeks after initial release??
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wanting an upgrade

I agree, but it just won't happen. They know that people will go out and by the latest and greatest based off of hype, and pay whatever to have it. If that wasn't the case, you'd see the prices come down. You can purchase the phone outright, but for like $500 - $600 and do a month to month contract.
I don't think that the phone manufacturer's set the contract prices, that's the cell companies.

ssandler77 said:
Or offer the phone as an upgrade from the manufacturer 2 weeks after initial release??
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I do not understand what you mean by this. Upgrade from the manufacturer 2 weeks after initial release?

Carriers don't make much off of phone sales; all their profit is from voice/data plans in turn why you can get a larger discount when you pickup a new phone along w/ renewing your ending contract.

Wozzie said:
I do not understand what you mean by this. Upgrade from the manufacturer 2 weeks after initial release?
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I was saying instead of the crazy markup by Verizon or other carriers the discount should come from the manufacturer. The 2 weeks would let the manufacturer make their money with a higher price, and then offer to their current customers the upgrade at a discounted price.
Sorry if this was confusing, I sometimes write things down and don't think all the way through. I really was being selfish and wanted a new phone without paying. (or paying very little)
I totally understand this wouldn't happen based on prices, the phone market, carriers, etc. I would just like a new updated phone for cheap.

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Carriers don't make much off of phone sales; all their profit is from voice/data plans in turn why you can get a larger discount when you pickup a new phone along w/ renewing your ending contract.
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I get it, i was just saying they should just give me (or anyone else) a new phone. I know it would never happen.