Look here : http://androidcommunity.com/odroid-c1-sbc-runs-android-and-has-1gb-of-ram-20141212/
This is a computer with the same size as the Raspberry Pi, the same price, but with a 4x1.5GHz CPU ,Mali 450 GPU and 1GB of RAM. And it's running Android.
What do you think ?
Thanks
I purchased a raspberry earlier this year, however I haven't used it much lately. Main reason was to use it for media center purposes.
I've been hoping that at some point either the Pi or another company would release a device similar with Android on it.
Not quite sure what all it would be useful for other than media and game purposes though.
Banana pi runs android...
I have read your link. In my case, with little knowledge, I'd rather wait until there are much support on these devices.
However, it's really a good news, when there are many companies/organization release their board with competitive price.
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Banana pi runs android...
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Seen some reviews of that board (such as this one) - promising in hardware but a little vague on software and after-sales support. Although if Android can be got running on it properly then it's maybe one up on that score too.
I guess it depends on what you want it for - as a Media player it looks a bit dodgy at the moment, but if Android runs well enough and you can get add-on hardware side sorted (it's not compatible with Pi add-on boards) then it could be an option perhaps.
Other than size/ mounting, it is compatible with RPi add-on boards. The GPIO connector on it is the same pin out. As far as software, there is a port of Raspbian, Ubuntu and android for it. On the Banana pi website they have links and downloads. I have one and set it up in place of my RPi for my fish tank controller. Only major difference is the i2c bus is #2 instead of 0 or 1. For a media center, I don't know what you mean by Dodgy, but it is a dual core CPU vs the RPi is a single, it has 1G ram vs 256 or 512 MB on the RPi. My PiTFT touch screen display even works on it.
5ft24 said:
Other than size/ mounting, it is compatible with RPi add-on boards. The GPIO connector on it is the same pin out. As far as software, there is a port of Raspbian, Ubuntu and android for it. On the Banana pi website they have links and downloads. I have one and set it up in place of my RPi for my fish tank controller. Only major difference is the i2c bus is #2 instead of 0 or 1. For a media center, I don't know what you mean by Dodgy, but it is a dual core CPU vs the RPi is a single, it has 1G ram vs 256 or 512 MB on the RPi. My PiTFT touch screen display even works on it.
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From what I'm hearing elsewhere the hardware acceleration for video decoding isn't working, so what you gain in the hardware speed you're losing again by having to do it all in software.
But that's second hand reports so I can't personally vouch for it (although I know my Pi does fine for the job).
Angristan said:
Look here : http://androidcommunity.com/odroid-c1-sbc-runs-android-and-has-1gb-of-ram-20141212/
This is a computer with the same size as the Raspberry Pi, the same price, but with a 4x1.5GHz CPU ,Mali 450 GPU and 1GB of RAM. And it's running Android.
What do you think ?
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I have a few Odroid C1s that I got from http://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-c1 . They work great for running Android. I even have one connected to a 9" 10-point touchscreen HDMI display I got for $120 and running Android on the C1 connected to the touchscreen is like running a really nice tablet. It also runs Android 5.1 if you download the image for it.
BTW, there's a video embedded on the C1 page I linked to above that shows the hardware acceleration is better than the Pi 2.
They also have a Pi-compatible for $39.95 at http://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-w-development-kit-as-is
I have one and it works great for anything you can use a Pi B+ for, plus it has a built-in 2.2" display. It can even be easily made portable with a $5.95 battery available there as well.
I've been really happy with the quality and value of the Odroid products.
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DarrenHill said:
From what I'm hearing elsewhere the hardware acceleration for video decoding isn't working, so what you gain in the hardware speed you're losing again by having to do it all in software.
But that's second hand reports so I can't personally vouch for it (although I know my Pi does fine for the job).
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You can see results of a side-by-side comparison between the C1 and the Pi2 on video decoding here: https://youtu.be/lmt8xfqiPeU
SPOILER ALERT: The C1 wins.
I wanted to play around with a raspberry pie ever since I got my first arduino.
The board in the OP seems like a powerful beast, so should I grab it instead of the r-pi?
Has anyone successfully created a fully running android for the raspberry pi?
Quaesar said:
Has anyone successfully created a fully running android for the raspberry pi?
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No.
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Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?
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Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?
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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?
Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?
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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?
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Mmm... Yes... but the size of the screen will be 8" or 9.7", and, we're building it to never exceed the 159USD as our target price on Bill Of Materials Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks for writing!
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?
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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit
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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit
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I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?
PantechBurstOwner said:
I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
Cyanogenmod would be great, if it's smaller though (think 7 inches) think Paranoid Android.
What would really differentiate it, would be if you already had a dual boot preinstalled on it with a little taste of everything. i.e. MIUI, CM10, and one more ultra customizable ROM (I suppose CM10) with themes that could be applied straight through the software. I understand this would probably be a pain to do, but it would make your tablet the MOST versatile tablet out there.
Also, consider like Asus, you may want to consider shoving a port on the bottom for a keyboard dock. Big fan of keyboards...
(Yes I understand I'm practically spamming you with ideas and not many of them are possible, nonetheless, lots of ideas are better than none... no?)
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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some magical custom firmware with an awesome name, also whats the specs on the battery?
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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Would you consider a proposal to the cyanogenmod team? It'll be nice to see a highly customizable stock firmware on a tablet..
Big +1
Ain't using separate 4G module too expensive? I don't think there should be any problem in fitting it onboard if you integrate it into one PCB design.
I'd like to see all unused cpu I/Os breaked out into set of pads onboard and documented, like UART, second USB port, I2C bus, FIMC interfaces and so on.
Also, don't get me wrong but if this project doesn't get realised (I really wish it does) - please publish non-NDA documentation. :]
MicroSD, maybe a USB port (unless it's too thick). Sounds pretty siiiick
This goes straight to my Christmas wish list!
But instead of a crippled Cyanogenmod I'd rather see dual-booting to Ubuntu and perhaps some Linaro builds. Staying close to Samsung SGS3 stock, may be a good idea for compatibility issues.
USB3 + HDMI + Front-facing Cam + JTAG over USB support (1149.7, NIDnT) + possibly UART HW debug
But perhaps more importantly, everything should be easily accessible from outside your platform so we can help hacking it back into shape when something goes wrong! Second, make sure we can freely mess with the boot configuration... I'd be happy to help sponsoring the low profile SMT DIP switch for boot config.
If you have space problems you should seriously consider using a quad-core (Krait) Snapdragon S4 Pro (MSM8960T) PoP SoC instead. Because if not, you'll need external modem support. So in your current configuration, what modem are you using? If you use the Intel XMM6260 you'll need a lot more support components, AFAICT, unless their new flagship (XMM7160) has managed even more integration somehow.
Good Luck!
so how long does the battery last? like how many mah or whatever it is lol also what would be cool is dual booting instead of ubuntu dual boot to windows 8, also a built in stand=somuchwin
Exynos 4 going to be outdated soon.
Regardless, I hope this tablet sees the light of day. A tablet that lets you easily install custom ROMs by default has been long overdue.
(Or, yes, an ubuntu tablet, though I'm not sure if even A15 would be fast enough.)
NFC, it HAS TO HAVE NFC dont build it into the back cover, if i were to get this i would paint the back and throw some LED's in it, i cant do that with my nexus 7
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1
Well, this is a great idea First I would consider not using 4G if you don't want to go in an expensive way... I would also consider using Stock Android ROM for the fans out there (like for example with the G Nexus) Processor you can use the powerful one from the Galaxy Note 10.1, but I also like tegra processors.
Subscribing to this thread!
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Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1
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It's the "latest" ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (aka Nova A9600)!
2.5GHz, 28 nm Technology. Dual ARM Cortex-A9 Harvard Superscalar processor core, Multi-layer AHB/AXI bus, ARM TrustZone, ARM NEON SIMD engine, dual-channel LP-DDR2 SD RAM interface, 1080p HDMI, Rogue GPU, 1080p video encode, 1080p video decode, 3D HD video capture and display, QXGA display support, Dual camera support up to 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel, USB 2.0
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But because of ST-Ericssons financial troubles, it's unlikely we'll see any full scale production of this chip within the next 6 months...if ever.
What about screen?
JSchlossstein said:
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
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That's the screen currently its like 8 or 9.7" and he said make suggestions if you can lol
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NOTE,THIS IS A COPY FROM FOLLOWING SITE: http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-compute-module-new-product/
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As regular readers will know, it’s been a busy time here at Pi Towers recently with the launch of our new website, free educational materials and £1m education fund.
On the engineering side of things we’ve also been very busy over the past year, and not to be outdone by the education team, we are ready to take the wraps off something special, this time aimed at business and industrial users.
From humble beginnings, the Raspberry Pi platform has grown and matured: the software is now full-featured and stable, and is still constantly improving thanks to the continuing hard work of our heroic community of volunteers; as well as targeted injections of funding to solve some specific issues. The Pi, and the Broadcom BCM2835 SoC at its heart, are also steadily becoming more open.
We love hearing about what users are doing with their Raspberry Pis, and are constantly amazed at the range of projects, as well as the inventiveness and creativeness of the community. We are also aware that there are a very significant number of users out there who are embedding the Raspberry Pi into systems and even commercial products. We think there needs to be a better way to allow people to get their hands on this great technology in a more flexible form factor, but still keep things at a sensible price.
Like proud parents, we want to free the core technology of the Raspberry Pi to go forth and become an integral part of new and exciting products and devices, and so today we are announcing the forthcoming Raspberry Pi Compute Module.
The compute module contains the guts of a Raspberry Pi (the BCM2835 processor and 512Mbyte of RAM) as well as a 4Gbyte eMMC Flash device (which is the equivalent of the SD card in the Pi). This is all integrated on to a small 67.6x30mm board which fits into a standard DDR2 SODIMM connector (the same type of connector as used for laptop memory*). The Flash memory is connected directly to the processor on the board, but the remaining processor interfaces are available to the user via the connector pins. You get the full flexibility of the BCM2835 SoC (which means that many more GPIOs and interfaces are available as compared to the Raspberry Pi), and designing the module into a custom system should be relatively straightforward as we’ve put all the tricky bits onto the module itself.
So what you are seeing here is a Raspberry Pi shrunk down to fit on a SODIMM with onboard memory, whose connectors you can customise for your own needs.
The Compute Module is primarily designed for those who are going to create their own PCB. However, we are also launching something called the Compute Module IO Board to help designers get started.
The Compute Module IO Board is a simple, open-source breakout board that you can plug a Compute Module into. It provides the necessary power to the module, and gives you the ability to program the module’s Flash memory, access the processor interfaces in a slightly more friendly fashion (pin headers and flexi connectors, much like the Pi) and provides the necessary HDMI and USB connectors so that you have an entire system that can boot Raspbian (or the OS of your choice). This board provides both a starting template for those who want to design with the Compute Module, and a quick way to start experimenting with the hardware and building and testing a system before going to the expense of fabricating a custom board.
http://vimeo.com/91292623
Initially, the Compute Module and IO Board will be available to buy together as the Raspberry Pi Compute Module Development Kit.
These kits will be available from RS and element14 some time in June. Shortly after that the Compute Module will be available to buy separately, with a unit cost of around $30 in batches of 100; you will also be able to buy them individually, but the price will be slightly higher. The Raspberry Pi Foundation is a charity, and as with everything we make here, all profits are pushed straight back into educating kids in computing.
I’m sure people will be keen to get their design process started; initially we are releasing just the schematics for both the Compute Module and IO Board, but we will be adding plenty more documentation over the coming days and weeks.
Happy creating!
*But don’t go plugging the Compute Module into your laptop – the pins assignments aren’t even remotely the same!
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GREEEEEEEETZ!!!!!!!
This is absolutely awesome! I hadn't checked back at the raspberry pi site for awhile since I generally let mine go without much intervention nowadays. I really like the concept of this and this could come in really handy for multi-raspberry pi clusters. Imagine the power we could have with 10x raspberry pis! Although at that point their size and performance don't look as favorably as some of the regular x86 processors.
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This is absolutely awesome! I hadn't checked back at the raspberry pi site for awhile since I generally let mine go without much intervention nowadays. I really like the concept of this and this could come in really handy for multi-raspberry pi clusters. Imagine the power we could have with 10x raspberry pis! Although at that point their size and performance don't look as favorably as some of the regular x86 processors.
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My question being will it still be the same poor little 600MHz chip?
Yes.. it is.
Really would have expected something more dual core.. but that would mean alot of issues with making new OS builds ect..
with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
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with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
Time will Tell
I'm curious to see how the nexus player develops
but right now I'm satisfied with the firetv I got XBMC on there and all my repos
so right now I'm good
I agreed, It probably locked bootloader and unless Google changed their mind letting us have a unlock bootloader = addicted flasher custom ROM. I might email some google developers and see what their response regard the bootloader status.
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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100% sure? Google TV and Chrome products have been locked down. ChromeBook and Chromecast. This device is called a Nexus, and i cant name one Nexus device that is locked down. Even my nexus q was easily unlocked!!! Even though i can see them locking the device i disagree with the level of certainty you have (100%)
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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Less Ram: Good point, but one of the android forums mention this wont be a problem with the intel chip. Time will tell.
lack of hardwire ethernet: the fire tv has FastEthernet which is limited by 100, Wireless N gives fastethernet a run for its money and this device supports AC. Way faster than fastethernet.
I will be giving it a shot I think. Need an extra unit for the bedroom TV anyway. Will wait to see if it is rootable first though I think
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Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
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Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
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This is only one device released by google, nvidia could release their own android tv device along with htc, samsung, acer, asus, motorla, hisense.... Etc... Even though i doubt nvidia will release a box since they already sell an nvidia shield tablet (which doesnt support dts pass through). Even though im sticking with my firetv i am interested to see others join. Especially if this pushes amazon to properly support vc1, 24p, 4k, dts-hd/truehd, 802.11ac.
I don't think you guys are remembering exactly what "Nexus" means. It means do whatever you want to the device.
Yes the Nexus 7 was locked but they made it easy to unlock for us to mod. The whole nexus line is the play ground line if you want to mod and have fun with your device.
I for one am going to be jumping ship because quite frankly, Amazon has, and always will be, absolutely garbage when it comes to making anything interface related. Their app sucks, their web interface sucks, their amazon fire TV interface sucks, everything they design is garbage when it comes to UI.
I've had a blast with this device but with them locking it down...no bueno.
As per the wireless worry, it's 5GHz AC. If you're doing anything that's going to be able to tax THAT, having an ethernet cable isn't going to save you.
Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Not exactly. Bootloader is still locked.
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
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Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
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1 GB is fine. Unlike phones we wont be multi-tasking as much. The Nexus Player will mostly only worry about the active application which is why 1 GB will be fine. As for the CPU its an Inel Atom which has been shown to run as fast as a Snapdragon 801, for comparison sakes the FireTV uses a Snapdragon 600.
Its not exciting enough for me to jump over to it. My AFTV is doing everything i need right now, not to mention the lack of ethernet is a deal breaker. Unless wireless AC has come down quite a bit in the last few months, Im not ready to make that move.
Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to have to really WOW me to get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to really WOW me get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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Would love to see one with OTA Antenna & PVR built in. Would be the perfect machine. For now a rooted FireTV will be the best for the price.
I'll wait for the actual user reviews to start showing up before I make a final decision, but at this point I'm leaning toward no. The biggest drawback to the FireTV for me is lack of storage. 8G is just not enough, I will not buy another FTV game until an official firmware update includes support for USB drives. Just a wild guess, but I suspect the Nexus Player has this same limitation. I'm willing to wait a bit longer and pay a bit more for a different Android TV box with better specs and hardware support.
Hi all.
First of all, apologize my rude english.
I realize that there is no comments about this device on the forum.
A quick summary: GPD-Win is a Intel Atom X5 Z8550 gaming device (UMPC including gamepad) running Windows 10 (and possible DualOS with Android, after releasing the device)
The device main specs are:
Name: GPD-WIN
SoC: Inte X7-Z8550
RAM: 4GB Ram
STORAGE: 64GB
OS: Windows 10 Home *
UEFI 64 bits
Able to run another OS from MicroSD or USB
DISPLAY: 5,5" IPS, Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
RESOLUTION: 1280x720 (720p)
BATTERY: 6000mAh
TV Out: MicroHDMI
1 x USB 3.0 (Full Size Port)
1 x MicroUSB
Wifi 5GHz Dual Channel
Bluetooth 4.1
MicroSD Slot (128GB Support)
Updated SoC to Cherrytrail Z8550
Bluetooth module updated to 4.1
Wifi module updated from 2.4GHz (single channel) to 5GHz (dual channel)
Added X360 Guide Button to the layout.
Re-located some keys such PgUp, PgDn, Home, End
Mode Switch updated. There are 3 modes: DInput, Mouse, XInput
The device come with USB 3.0 Type-A (Full Size) port, and MicroUSB 2.0 port.
Added a big aluminium heatsink between the SoC and the keyboard, for heat dissipation.
There is a speaker system that will help to heat dissipation by vibrations.
About the size, comparing with GPD-XD is very similar, then Nintendo 3DSXL cases will be suitable to protect and carry this device too.
There are some new images from the prototype (Courtesy of GPD).
Front comparisson
Side
Comparing with GPD-XD
Mode Switcher
Buttons L1 and R1 detail. Now these buttons are more ergonomics.
Upper and Lower views
Source: Mod Edit: Fundraisering link removed.
I really think the price will not be $499 on release, because is a non-realistic price for the device. Most probably the device price will down to the campaign price, that is more reasonable price in my opinion ($299)
in any case, if there is any interest on this device, i will tray to write a review to post here (Hopefully, some time before the device release on the market).
If there is any question about this, let me know, and i will do my best on trying to get info from GPD.
Zalu2!
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Darth said:
I've removed all fundraising talk from the OP and moved this to the proper area.
Fundraising talk and links are not allowed on XDA.
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Darth
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Ok
Apologyze about the link (i don´t know about it)
thanks for moving the thread. ^_^
Seriously going to love this Device when it comes out
Here will be my Setup for it
200GB MicroSD
500GB SSD USB 3.0 Velcro underneath the Device
Going to have to attach Carbon Fiber Skin Decal to it like I did with my GPD XD. Would mean having to Scan every Part of it to get it right like I did with the XD. LOL
So far, the Videos of this Device in Action are amazing. A User that received a Unit for Testing (Non-Fan Variant) so far has shown some promising results.
Ultra Street Fighter IV running, but Background Graphics are Removed. But I saw 1 Video where he got a Internet Challenge on it and then a Pop-Up Message came up saying the CPU Temp was around 80 Degrees C (177 F). Max Temp for the CPU is 90C. So it does allow for more recent Games if the Settings are just right. Also was able to run Wolfenstein - The New Order which is surprising to me. Graphics seemed to be stuttering but still able to run smoothly.
There was another Test for Emulators and it seemed to run PS2 Games pretty good. I gave a list of some Games/Emulators to test how it would go for my Standards. But from what I saw in the Videos, when it has the Variants WITH a CPU Cooling Fan, it should do quite well.
The only thing going through my head right now is: Why didnt someone think of creating a Device like this YEARS AGO?????? LOL. Finally, a Windows OS, Handheld, GamePad, Gaming Device. Just have a few problems with it:
Storage Size: 64GB ROM. Seriously??????? At best, after removing Applications I wont need, I will be left with maybe 45-50GB and thats if I am lucky for 50GB. 128GB would have been preferable.
No FULL Keyboard: Not a biggie, but would be nice. Will just have to use a Bluetooth Number Pad or Bluetooth Full Keyboard if it doesnt have a Pop-up for it.
Only 1 Full Size USB. I dont need the Mini-HDMI Port, nor will I be needing the Wireless Display. They could throw that out and replace it with a 2nd Full Size USB Port for additional Storage or USB Devices.
Directional Pad and Joystick: Seriously wish they would use a Directional Pad like the ones on the PS Vita same with the Joystick. Using the GPD XD which has the same Controls, it is kind of problematic.
But regardless of those mentioned Dislikes, this Device should be a Kick-### System for Gaming. Going to love finally having a Portable Windows Gaming System WITH Attached GamePad
Just hope it will be Released in October like they Estimate :fingers-crossed:
guys tell me something about the compatibility with Android, dual boot seems the easy way but, is it supported like an old gpd xd ?
if anybody is interested in the new aluminum version of the GPD Win, here's a $50 off coupon for geek buying: EMFQNEVZ
Hi.
My elderly mom gets lost in her Windows PC, but does OK on her Android tablet. I'm looking for a high-powered Android box to replace the Windows PC, doing mostly Skype and Mail/Web/FB/News. That rules out the mainstream Amlogic-based boxes (weak CPU, low RAM), but I'm worried the RK3399 boxes are marginal/amateurish/not well supported. The plan is to make the UI the exact same as her tablet, with the extra comfort of a mouse, big screen, and loud sound. She'll be doing he exact same things as on her tablet so I'm unbothered by Android/Desktop limitations. Skype support (so, no ChromeOS) and reliability/dependability are a must.
The Vorke Z3 has disappeared. Does anyone have feedback on the Cloudnetgo CR19 or the CSA96 ? Or at least their OEMs ?
Thanks for any help/advice.
Olivier
I agree, the CDR19 looks great. 4 x USB + SATA + external antenna, plus extra audio ports and front display.
$150-$200. I am tempted.
However what about the limitations I keep reading about RockChip? No one actually specifies what these are, and all my online searches reveal nothing, except old pre-2015 reviews of older architecture.
So what do you do? S912 DDR4 3GB? or RK3399 DDR3 4GB?
I got the $80 H96 max. It works OK as a PC once you switch Launchers (for some reason only MS launcher will install, no Nova, Google..).
The one limitation I ran into was DRM support; not an issue for PC use, but I'd avoid it as a media player/HTPC.
Performance, reliability, features are otherwise fine.
I got this one it works great as a pc/tablet or tv box it runs well with a 2.4ghz keyboard and mouse
4GB RAM 32GB RK3328 MXR PRO Android 7.1.1 Smart TV Box Quad Core 2.4GHz WiFi VP9 H.265 3D HDMI USB3.0 MXRpro HDR 4K Media Player
http://s.aliexpress.com/Zfy26R7n?fromSns=Copy
Or you can try remix os for pc's
http://www.jide.com/remixos
how much is your target price for rk3399 4GB android box?
how much is your target price for rk3399 4GB android box?
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Hi.
My elderly mom gets lost in her Windows PC, but does OK on her Android tablet. I'm looking for a high-powered Android box to replace the Windows PC, doing mostly Skype and Mail/Web/FB/News. That rules out the mainstream Amlogic-based boxes (weak CPU, low RAM), but I'm worried the RK3399 boxes are marginal/amateurish/not well supported. The plan is to make the UI the exact same as her tablet, with the extra comfort of a mouse, big screen, and loud sound. She'll be doing he exact same things as on her tablet so I'm unbothered by Android/Desktop limitations. Skype support (so, no ChromeOS) and reliability/dependability are a must.
The Vorke Z3 has disappeared. Does anyone have feedback on the Cloudnetgo CR19 or the CSA96 ? Or at least their OEMs ?
Thanks for any help/advice.
Olivier
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I got her https://www.geekbuying.com/item/H96-MAX-Rockchip-RK3399-Hexa-Core-64bit-4G-32G-4K-TV-BOX-379059.html after seeing it was the most mentioned on several forums. Once I replaced the default TV Launcher with a more normal one (strangely, only MS Launcher would install, most would bug out), she's happy with it, it's stable and runs the double-handful of apps she needs (Skype etc...). Got it on sale for $100-ish.
Go 912s, 905x2, or wait for the 922
Freaktab Com is your support local. Look for developers magendanz or superceleron.
This is a MUST! Support, support and support.
I have an n6 Max Buy magicsee, I love it ... yet it's the most unstable platform I have ever run!
The cloudnetgo is a dynamic promising device, I'd like to have one. Still supported minimal, don't do it. My little mecool m8s Pro with a magendanz custom ROM is a powerful fast extremely stable device. The pro L model comes with enhanced DRM abilities, meaningful high-def capability for streaming. I truly suggest you go look at the developers first. Look for the boxes I support. And you're better off to stay with an amlogic SOC, they just a wider and deeper support base. The amlogic S922 will be out shortly, and it'll be the best thing available oh, I am sure. Yet it will take awhile for support and custom roms to be available. That's my two cents, good luck