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I have seen many tablet polls asking about the right size of the tablet that the people want.
The results are that the 10" tablet is the favorite size for most people, but I wonder.....
Do that people have tasted both the 7" and the 10" tablet before making a choice?
I have brought this subject because I'm thinking that the manufacturers think that what the people want is 10" , when actually, they could have better with a 7" or 8" tablet.
come to think about it, reading on a 10" display is not cool, besides you need to hold it with two hands because of the weight.
The gaming experience is much better on a 7" tablet.
The GPS Navigator is much much better on a 7".
We cannot deny that browsing webpages on 10" is much better, but I'm not only browsing on my tablet.
I Suggest to read this article, it's called "The iPad likes to stay at home" Guess why?
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/inspect-a-gadget/2010/10/the-ipad-likes-to-stay-at-home.html
what do you think??
"Do that people have tasted both the 7" and the 10" tablet before making a choice?"
I bought an iPad after seeing them used prominently at a recent conference. Less than 24 hours later, I returned it.
However, I looked at the Galaxy Tab and fell in love. Can't imagine the 10" screen over the 7". For me, it's just a much more ergonomic choice. But some people like Chevy's; others like Fords. Or Honda's and Toyota's if you prefer.
Same here. The Tab is way cool!! It is taking a little bit to get used to a 7" screen phone tho...... LOL Although today I took my Streak 5 with me instead and really missed the Tab. Now if I could only find a good horizontal case with belt loops for the Tab, life would be very good.....
Later
My wife bought an iPad 4 months ago and has been using it daily since she bought it. I bought a T-mobile Galaxy Tab 3 weeks ago and have unlocked it, flashed several different roms and modems and installed a sim card from one of T-mobile's competitors.
The iPad is a nice piece of hardware in its own right, but the Galaxy Tab is a far more mobile device than the iPad and has voice capabilities.
My wife now wants the same setup that I have with the Tab because it fits into her purse (not the iPad) and it has the voice capabilities.
I like both devices, but I prefer the Tab over the iPad for the simple reason that it has much better mobility.
As far as I'm concerned 7 inches is just about perfect for a tablet/phone device and until something much better comes along...I'm staying with the Galaxy Tab.
I don't use my galaxy for phone capabilities because my sprint is not activated, I use it adhoc-ed with my X10 for wifi-only.
After seeing some other tablets, the Acer Iconia A100 is a 7" with honeycomb and tegra 2, looks like what I'm looking for.
Although I might choose the LG Optimus pad in favor of their 8.9" , but I still need to decide if I'm really going to keep my tablet on my home for leisure time because of its size
The Tab fits in my pocket, a 10" wouldn't
there is no competition
I went to best buy today and was playing with the ipad, and it's way too big. I was browsing the internet and found it difficult to reach the inner letters of the keyboard, like g and h in both portrait and landscape mode. It is nice hardware for sure, but I think the 7" is a lot better for mobility and practicality.
ellokomen said:
I don't use my galaxy for phone capabilities because my sprint is not activated, I use it adhoc-ed with my X10 for wifi-only.
After seeing some other tablets, the Acer Iconia A100 is a 7" with honeycomb and tegra 2, looks like what I'm looking for.
Although I might choose the LG Optimus pad in favor of their 8.9" , but I still need to decide if I'm really going to keep my tablet on my home for leisure time because of its size
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Thing is, the Acer Iconia looks plain ugly, both in form factor and in finishing
The screen res is not up to par with the tab too
I chose the Tab due to its size and it is easier to handle and use compared to the 10 inch tablets.
Most people that I know tend to prefer 7 inch tablets after handling it, though some are still swayed by the cool factor of the ipad.
It would be interesting too see what happens if we all had 4", 7", 10" and 12" galaxy tabs laying around at home. Which would you take with you when you go shopping, to the gym, to work or to the toilet?
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It would be interesting too see what happens if we all had 4", 7", 10" and 12" galaxy tabs laying around at home. Which would you take with you when you go shopping, to the gym, to work or to the toilet?
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I have a Desire HD (so, 4.3") and a Tab. I tend to take both whenever I go out, with a few exceptions (like the pub!), and I find that I tend to just use the Desire HD as a phone, and the Tab for everything else.
Any larger than 7", and it would likely stay at home as it wouldn't fit in jacket pocket.
I may end up getting a 10" tablet at some point, but if I do it will have a semi-permanent home on a coffee table, and would be WiFi only.
Regards,
Dave
My tab goes everywhere, my girlfriends ipad lives in the draw.
10inch tablets are for people who think bigger is better and have no clue.
When iPad was announced I was really into it. It looked great, had a big screen and as an iPhone owner, I had a good experience with Apple. That all went away the first time I saw it in person and spent some time using it.
The experience was far from perfect. That thing was big. I hated the fact that the OS was same as in iPhone. My first reaction was "wtf, so much wasted space around those icons". Soon I realized that the typing was very awkward, the finger travel distances were driving me crazy and my interest in iPad was simply gone in those 30 minutes I spent with it.
Then I got the Galaxy Tab and well... The rest is history
Personally, I think that poll simply shows that people do think that bigger is better - it was exactly how I felt, before actually using a 10" product.
I personally prefer 7 inches for mobility. I wish they would make them a little wider though.. maybe 1024x800?.. I would really like a 7 inch tablet that is a little wider than the current ones available (would probably end up being 8 inches because of extra width)
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I personally prefer 7 inches for mobility. I wish they would make them a little wider though.. maybe 1024x800?.. I would really like a 7 inch tablet that is a little wider than the current ones available (would probably end up being 8 inches because of extra width)
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They'd need to get rid of the bezel in order to make the screen wider, as I personally think the width of the Tab is about as large as your can comfortably fit in a pocket.
Regards,
Dave
Yeah, I agree, but bezel seems to be necesarry to be able to hold the device with the thumb on the top. Personally, I feel it would be great to have edge-to-edge screen that would automagically black out the left-right edges depending on the orientation, so you would be able to hold it without activating anything.
Of course, the bezels could be disabled when watching videos, or surfing the net with 2 hands etc.
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My wife bought an iPad 4 months ago and has been using it daily since she bought it. I bought a T-mobile Galaxy Tab 3 weeks ago and have unlocked it, flashed several different roms and modems and installed a sim card from one of T-mobile's competitors.
The iPad is a nice piece of hardware in its own right, but the Galaxy Tab is a far more mobile device than the iPad and has voice capabilities.
My wife now wants the same setup that I have with the Tab because it fits into her purse (not the iPad) and it has the voice capabilities.
I like both devices, but I prefer the Tab over the iPad for the simple reason that it has much better mobility.
As far as I'm concerned 7 inches is just about perfect for a tablet/phone device and until something much better comes along...I'm staying with the Galaxy Tab.
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I agree. I have the iPad and love it, but it doesn't fit in my "regular" purses and I tend to carry medium to large purses. I really want a device that can go with me anywhere. Plus, as an Evo user I am used to being able to customize my devices and install roms and am not able to do so on the iPad.
"Which would you take with you when you go shopping, to the gym, to work or to the toilet?"
I ripped my P90X DVD's and put them on the TAB for working out at the gym. Previously, I used a portable DVD player but I never managed to keep the darn thing charged so it was a mess, what with power cords, remote, DVD's and of course the player itself.
one extra point for the 7" screen is the extra hand that you have.
msg for iPad troll:
yeah, you may have an iPad, but I have an extra hand that do more stuffs than your big tablet alone
Today I saw a 8.9" netbook, and that size caught my sight on it, I think I'm gonna score some LG Optimus 3D tablet with 8.9" when it hits the market.
I have:
Nexus one (3.7 inch): Great size for a phone, 4 inchs would be my limit for a phone, but I don't find 3.7 inchs on a phone limiting.
Galaxy tab (7inch): I LOVE this size of this thing, I can slip it into any bag I have, I have a small messenger bag and from the looks, its hard to tell a tab would fit in it (it does with plenty of space to spare!). Makes me less of a target to thieves too.
I was planning on a 10 inch tablet initially too, but after looking at my 12.1 inch laptop, it didn't seem much more portable (ok, its lighter and thinner). Then again, if a manufacturer manages to have a large screen in small physical estate (very thin bezel), that might be a good thing.
Honestly, I think the Tab hits the sweet spot in portability and usability. If they manage to make the bezel thinner and keep the same size, its pretty much the size of those small books
Toshiba M750 (12.1 inch): It's ok for a laptop, not too heavy, not light (at all), but as a tablet, it's pretty heavy and thick.
Only thing I like about it now is the digitizer.
Hi all
Please help me. I am getting really confused with ME400 specification.
Especially with those few listed below:
- Does it have Wacom stylus support?
- Does it have Gorilla glass?
- Does it have full GPS?
Additionally what exactly is in the box?
Mini USB to USB adapter? Any other cables?
How does it compare to Dell Latitude 10 Essential? Is it worth considering?
I am almost ready to buy it (if only stylus is supported), will it be a good choice in this price range? I am looking for iPad replacement not laptop replacement so docking station is not essential for me.
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- Does it have Wacom stylus support?
- Does it have Gorilla glass?
- Does it have full GPS?
Additionally what exactly is in the box?
Mini USB to USB adapter? Any other cables?
How does it compare to Dell Latitude 10 Essential? Is it worth considering?
I am almost ready to buy it (if only stylus is supported), will it be a good choice in this price range? I am looking for iPad replacement not laptop replacement so docking station is not essential for me.
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No, you want the Vivotab 11.6" version.
No, scratch resistant but not Gorilla, or else they would proudly advertise it. Most likely, it is a corning glass like what Nexus 7 got but not Gorilla.
Yes, full GPS but good luck figuring out what app that uses it. I haven't found one.
You get the tablet, USB-AC power adapter, Micro USB to USB cable, and I got some small documentation. That's it.
Dell Latitude is only 32GB (which is probably about half usable out of the box) compared to the Asus 64GB (half usable). Dell has gorilla glass. I don't know if the Asus is 5 touch multi or 10 touch multi but Dell states there's is 10 touch.
Dell has slightly bigger battery, and a 802.11 dual band card. Asus is single band (2.4ghz) wifi card.
Dell looks to have proprietary power charger. Asus chargers over the Micro USB port.
Asus is plastic build, Dell looks to have better build quality.
Asus has micro SDXC slot, Dell is full SD.
Dell is slightly heavier (80g) than the Asus.
Dell removed the mini HDMI port, Asus has this
Asus has micro USB which requires an OTG adapter to use USB devices, Dell has a full size USB port.
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No, you want the Vivotab 11.6" version.
No, scratch resistant but not Gorilla, or else they would proudly advertise it. Most likely, it is a corning glass like what Nexus 7 got but not Gorilla.
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As far as i know, all vivotabs are corning, no matter which version.
Even the vivotab 11.5" which has the stylus is corning.
Just did some research, Corning is Gorilla Glass.
Hmmm the highest model the normal vivotab advertises that.
According to this the smart is also corning, but cannot verify.
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/answers/...-black-questions-answers/questions.htm?page=2
Thank you very much for your answers. it seems that Dell is quite good choice.i need to check if they they offering it with 64gb as well.
One more thing how about Wacom stylus support withMe400? For example styluses from Samsung Note would they work? I found on Asus Web page that Wacom Styluses would but it was mentioned in Smart Note description so I am asking for first hand experience as on their page it could be copy /paste from 810 description for example,
In terms of Vivotap11,6 do you mean TF810? If so, I was looking at it and if ME400 is supporting stylus there is nothing tempting for me. I don't need docking station and already have bluetooth keyboard. 9.5h is more than enough for me. and price is 1.5 time of Me400 I really look for iPad replacement and laptop experience is not my requirement especially if this drives price up. on the paper both devices share similar specs processor, memory storage.
Can you advise what else beside docking station and larger display TF810 has to offer?
Wacom stylus are active, ME400c only can use passive stylus. There are some that are fine tip (JotNot comes to mind) that are passive.
TF810 is the one I was referring to, yes.
TF810 has active stylus (Wacom) support.
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Wacom stylus are active, ME400c only can use passive stylus. There are some that are fine tip (JotNot comes to mind) that are passive.
TF810 is the one I was referring to, yes.
TF810 has active stylus (Wacom) support.
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Is this confirmed information? Did you or anybody checked ie Samsung Note styluses? As this suggest that there is error on Asus page:
http://uk.asus.com/Tablet/VivoTab/ASUS_VivoTab_Smart/
SuperNote
SuperNote is a versatile multimedia note taking app that allows users to input & share through a variety of options: use your finger to draw, the Wacom stylus to sketch and the mobile dock to type. Include photo and video captures, or even audio notes.
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Please can anybody who has this device to confirm this in use. I have to be 1000% sure as this would be a deal breaker for me
Send me a wacom active stylus and i'll test it for you.
As it is, it does not have a digitizer so the active stylus won't work. Wacom does make stylus for capacitive screens without a wacom digitizer installed (which the 810FC has)
If you look here, the specs for the 810 show a wacom digitizer, the ME400c does not
http://www.asus.com/vivo/en/vivoTab.htm
@caudex
Corning makes Gorilla glass but also makes glass that is not Gorilla. Simply associating any glass made by Corning to be Gorilla glass is incorrect. That's equivalent to saying that since Chrysler makes Hemi, that all cars Chrysler makes have Hemi.
The Corning glass used by Asus in the Vivotab RT and the Nexus 7 are Corning Fit Glass. They are advertised as scratch resistant, but not as Gorilla glass.
Asus advertises the Vivotab 810C as having Corning Fit, not Corning Gorilla Glass. ME400c only advertised as scratch resistant.
11.6“ Ratio: 16:9 ( 1366x768 ) LED Backlight screen with IPS
Scratch resistant Corning® Fit Glass, anti-fingerprint, Super IPS+
Thank you guys for all answers. Now I have to decide if I can live without active stylus.. I will need it only for note taking and some sketches so this Jot stylus could do the trick.
What are your opinion on Acer W510 vs ME400 as price is almost the same (if you add keyboard and cover to ME400).
Also is there a point waiting until MWC 2013 to see what premieres will take place?
Is there any technological revolution just behind corner worth waiting? Any new atom processors sooner than Bay Trial? As if I got it correct this one is due to be released late 2013 so devices with this chip will hit market early 2014.
Thanks for helping.
I just got an ASUS vivotab smart tablet
Are you sure that the ASUS micro-USB port would work with an OTG adapter and it is not just for charging the tablet? THANKS
Asus has micro USB which requires an OTG adapter to use USB devices
goofball2k said:
No, you want the Vivotab 11.6" version.
No, scratch resistant but not Gorilla, or else they would proudly advertise it. Most likely, it is a corning glass like what Nexus 7 got but not Gorilla.
Yes, full GPS but good luck figuring out what app that uses it. I haven't found one.
You get the tablet, USB-AC power adapter, Micro USB to USB cable, and I got some small documentation. That's it.
Dell Latitude is only 32GB (which is probably about half usable out of the box) compared to the Asus 64GB (half usable). Dell has gorilla glass. I don't know if the Asus is 5 touch multi or 10 touch multi but Dell states there's is 10 touch.
Dell has slightly bigger battery, and a 802.11 dual band card. Asus is single band (2.4ghz) wifi card.
Dell looks to have proprietary power charger. Asus chargers over the Micro USB port.
Asus is plastic build, Dell looks to have better build quality.
Asus has micro SDXC slot, Dell is full SD.
Dell is slightly heavier (80g) than the Asus.
Dell removed the mini HDMI port, Asus has this
Asus has micro USB which requires an OTG adapter to use USB devices, Dell has a full size USB port.
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Andrew_j said:
Thank you guys for all answers. Now I have to decide if I can live without active stylus.. I will need it only for note taking and some sketches so this Jot stylus could do the trick.
What are your opinion on Acer W510 vs ME400 as price is almost the same (if you add keyboard and cover to ME400).
Also is there a point waiting until MWC 2013 to see what premieres will take place?
Is there any technological revolution just behind corner worth waiting? Any new atom processors sooner than Bay Trial? As if I got it correct this one is due to be released late 2013 so devices with this chip will hit market early 2014.
Thanks for helping.
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The Acer is pretty nice, not a whole lot different than the Asus, though they are slightly different prices here ($100 more for the W510, no dock). The $100 price difference in favour of the Vivotab is the main reason I bought one over the Acer.
You could wait but if you think you're going to get a faster processor for this with the same battery life, it won't be until closer to q3/q4 if anything when they release Bay Trail, the upgrade to the current CPU. Don't expect Haswell to be it, at more than 4x the TDP for the lowest power chip. Same with AMD. The main thing I would like to see is either more storage space for the same price (possible) or a faster drive (mSATA or the like, not eMMC). I suppose USB 3.0 could come but that is probably for Bay Trail as well.
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Are you sure that the ASUS micro-USB port would work with an OTG adapter and it is not just for charging the tablet? THANKS
Asus has micro USB which requires an OTG adapter to use USB devices
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Yes, it works, as I use it with USB drives all the time. I have only a cheap $1 USB OTG from ebay and no problem.
Hi all
Thanks to all your replies I made my decision. Knowing all of the above I know way to expect and hopefully I will not be disappointed. I am going to buy ME400
Is there any case you can recommend? How about Vivo RT cases? Will they fit? Dimensions are almost identical. How the rest? Ports? Cameras? Speakers?
Are there any issues or problems you have faced?
Dead pixels? Yellowish spots? Rattling noises? Bad speakers or anything else to pay attention for?
Thanks guys
I haven't found any problems with it. Windows capacitive button can
I normally use headphones but my son has used it for his videos and no problems with the audio. I'm not listening to them for audiophile reasons, they are just tinny speakers after all.
I have'nt found a case yet, which is frustrating. Amazon is showing moko cases coming out in 2 weeks.
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I haven't found any problems with it. Windows capacitive button can
I normally use headphones but my son has used it for his videos and no problems with the audio. I'm not listening to them for audiophile reasons, they are just tinny speakers after all.
I have'nt found a case yet, which is frustrating. Amazon is showing moko cases coming out in 2 weeks.
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I was looking at this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/IVSO®-TF600...OMAW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360184082&sr=8-2
It's for tf600 but its dimensions are almost identical to me400.
Now waiting for me400 to be back in stock. Btw I ordered screen protector for tf600
My ME400 arrived home yesterday and today is going back. It has a flake or dust under the glass. Looking closely you can see that it's kind or shard pressing screen itself.
Do you have any problems with Me400 screens?
No problems with my screen. Opened a white/black powerpoint presentation in slideshow mode to check for stuck pixels or anything under the screen.
Soon I will have "faulty-LCD-Fobia" this is second ME400 I have. First has the dust under glass and now second has sligh light leak in the left bottom corner (but I could still live with it) but the two bright spots I won't tolerate.
They are actually much more visible in reality than on the photo. I cannot really explain what they are. They are invisible on black background. White or bright background make them visible.
You can call me Mega-jinx but I have been replacing my iPad 2 nine times due to dead pixels. The 9th is perfectly fine.
With ME400 I hope NOT to break this record.
Keep the fingers cross.
Guys,
I'd like to know if someone can share the drivers and BIOS (newer) that received by Asus Live Update?
I'm trying a lot of times to get the update but the asus live update can't work anymore.
Thank you!
I got my 3rd tablet this time (touch the wood) is perfect
Regarding to bios - its updated itself via asus update but I have no idea if or where it saves those files. Tried to find it without sucess. Sorry
I have a Galaxy Note and Galaxy Note 2.
The stylus DOES NOT work with the ME400. Like previous posters have mentioned, this is not a wacom digitizer tablet. Passive stylus is the way you have to go.
OTG cables work, waiting to confirm that Micro SDXC works in this device. However, posters in another thread have confirmed this.
In my opinion, Vivotab RT cases should work fine with this device. Nearly identical with minor differences. If anything, the RT has more things to consider regarding cases. Keyboard doc, additional speaker, dock lock slider switch etc.
LOVE my 400. Had it about a week. Use Onenote (Home and Student edition) which syncs perfect on Skydrive across my other machines, Got a free Outlook 2013 from my exchange server carrier, and the battery is fabulous. I bought the Moko Slim case and Ink pen/stylus on Amazon which now comes for the 400 for a perfect fit.
Only suggestion I have for new users is to go to Display setting and turn the percentage up to 140 - 150 so your fingers will work on the Desktop mode easier, and better on the eyes.
Pefect cross over machine for me for business and casual media reader.
USB works perfect with the dongles, even a USB hub. Only wish it could charge through the hub, won't work.
I'll leave photoshop my my nice fast desktop with the 26" monitor.
Hi Guys,
First time poster here
I went to a shop to buy a stylus for note taking (college) and for drawing as well since its my hobby. I tested the adonit jot mini on my galaxy s3 and it was super fluid writing and drawing without any pressure needed.. but when i got home and tried it on my nexus 7, the tablet hardly detected it! I have to press the stylus with quite some pressure before it registers the touch, and the writing is just not that fluid!
Im using Myscript notes on both S3 and Nexus 7.. i wonder why there is such a bid difference in the responsiveness between the 2 screens.. my nexus 7 doesnt use a screen protector either.. any ideas or suggestions?
I've been all over the usual places I've ordered new screens for tablets and phones and can't find a single source for the 8th gen model of the HD 8.. Screen is cracked due to a drop, and I'm not sure if the LCD was damaged or not, but, where can I even find any replacements for 8th Gen?
You can find the LCD model and search from Google or eBay
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I've been all over the usual places I've ordered new screens for tablets and phones and can't find a single source for the 8th gen model of the HD 8.. Screen is cracked due to a drop, and I'm not sure if the LCD was damaged or not, but, where can I even find any replacements for 8th Gen?
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I know this is a old thread but I had the same problem and turns out the 7th gen screen are fully compatible with 8th gen.
I accidentally stepped on my Fire HD 8 and broke the screen. All I can see now is just random color lights and cracks. I bought it two years ago. It is very likely HD 8 2020 (10th generation). I think the only thing I can do is replace the LCD screen. But I need to go to the setting to confirm what generation it is in order to buy the LCD replacement. Of course, I can send it to a professional repair shop. But that will probably cost me the price of a used HD 8 (or perhaps a new HD 8). Just wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions for me.