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Hey all!
Is it possible to downgrade from a newer (NE3) firmware to an older (ND3) through Odin or it will brick my phone because of the bootloader?
The only things I know are that 1) Downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 is not possible 2) It's possibile to install a custom older rom on new bootloader and vice versa BUT I don't know if it's possible with stock roms with Odin.
I looked for a solution but nothing found and no one answered me so I opened this thread to find out a solution.
Thanks in advance.
UP still interested because NE4 + custom kernel gives problems that others doesn't have
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Dan
I also wanted to do dawngrade because the because the 4.4.2 is **** battery does not hold as it should as was holding before the update
kylothow said:
Hey all!
Is it possible to downgrade from a newer (NE3) firmware to an older (ND3) through Odin or it will brick my phone because of the bootloader?
The only things I know are that 1) Downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 is not possible 2) It's possibile to install a custom older rom on new bootloader and vice versa BUT I don't know if it's possible with stock roms with Odin.
I looked for a solution but nothing found and no one answered me so I opened this thread to find out a solution.
Thanks in advance.
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I never actually tried going back to an older version but I really don't see why you shouldn't. As long as it's KitKat 4.4.2 just try it should work. I downgraded my Modem and haven't had any issue.
With the Bootloader worry...did you even change the bootloader? As well as the Modem you have to do that separate to the Rom, as flashing a Rom doesn't touch Modem an Bootloader!!! If you don't know how to do that please just leave it alone though unless you read, read, read a lot on how to do that.
4aces said:
I never actually tried going back to an older version but I really don't see why you shouldn't. As long as it's KitKat 4.4.2 just try it should work. I downgraded my Modem and haven't had any issue.
With the Bootloader worry...did you even change the bootloader? As well as the Modem you have to do that separate to the Rom, as flashing a Rom doesn't touch Modem an Bootloader!!! If you don't know how to do that please just leave it alone though unless you read, read, read a lot on how to do that.
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Thanks for the reply, every time I install a new rom I make sure to update the bootloader and modem too, and from what I can read from the Synapse app I have the NE3 modem and NE4 bootloader.
I'm asking how to go back to older roms because going from 4.4.2 to 4.3 updating the bootloader with Odin you obtain only a fancy paper weight, and I didn't know if going from newer to older 4.4.2 bootloader it was the same story.
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kylothow said:
Thanks for the reply, every time I install a new rom I make sure to update the bootloader and modem too, and from what I can read from the Synapse app I have the NE3 modem and NE4 bootloader.
I'm asking how to go back to older roms because going from 4.4.2 to 4.3 updating the bootloader with Odin you obtain only a fancy paper weight, and I didn't know if going from newer to older 4.4.2 bootloader it was the same story.
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I'm pretty sure there won't be an issue mate since I flash between custom roms almost daily which are most of the time different models. If you want to be 100% sure wait for someone to confirm as I'm rooted since I got the chance to do so.
Thanks to the developer Civato I read on his FlexKat thread he correctly downgraded his bootloader from NE6 to ND6 with Odin...
So problem solved, this is definitely possible.
Thank you everyone for your replies :good:
Downgrading bootloaders on the same version generally tends to work OK, mainly because on 4.3 Samsung patched the security flaw which stopped you going <MJ7
Kith Kitkat I never had any issues flipping back and forth.--- Until it's a BL upgrade with OS Number change (IE: 4.4.3 if it has new BL) then it shouldn't work.
hi. sorry,this is probably an old thread but I need some help,please and somehow,Google got me here. I want to downgrade (not really downgrade) my N9005 to 4.4.2.
I currently have a custom ROM(resurrection remix v5.6.9,in settings it says that I have android 6.0.1 marshmallow). Also,I have a custom recovery(TWRP). Well,I would like to install the KitKat stock ROM and really did a lot of research but I cannot find it anywhere :'( . Do you know any source? And also,can I flash it with mobile ODIN? When I opened Mobile Odin Pro it said that if I don't have the boot loader for the ROM I want to install then I will experience a soft brick. Isn't TWRP a good boot loader?
Also,does it matter what version of N9005 I own? mine is: XXUGBOJ1. Could I flash smth that is not for this ..base band is it called?...
pls help
I'm such a newbie and I don't wanna mess up
PainCutter said:
hi. sorry,this is probably an old thread but I need some help,please and somehow,Google got me here. I want to downgrade (not really downgrade) my N9005 to 4.4.2.
I currently have a custom ROM(resurrection remix v5.6.9,in settings it says that I have android 6.0.1 marshmallow). Also,I have a custom recovery(TWRP). Well,I would like to install the KitKat stock ROM and really did a lot of research but I cannot find it anywhere :'( . Do you know any source? And also,can I flash it with mobile ODIN? When I opened Mobile Odin Pro it said that if I don't have the boot loader for the ROM I want to install then I will experience a soft brick. Isn't TWRP a good boot loader?
Also,does it matter what version of N9005 I own? mine is: XXUGBOJ1. Could I flash smth that is not for this ..base band is it called?...
pls help
I'm such a newbie and I don't wanna mess up
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Get a 4.4.2 fw and flash with windows odin. Not really familiar with mobile odin. Find fw for you country csc. Flashing other csc fw sometimes requires pit file so better get the 1 for your country or originally came with the phone.
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Rosli59564 said:
Get a 4.4.2 fw and flash with windows odin. Not really familiar with mobile odin. Find fw for you country csc. Flashing other csc fw sometimes requires pit file so better get the 1 for your country or originally came with the phone.
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I'd do that..my csc is for Romania. But I cannot find anywhere on the Internet the fw. And I searched alot
PainCutter said:
I'd do that..my csc is for Romania. But I cannot find anywhere on the Internet the fw. And I searched alot
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Samsung updates.com.
I can see a few for Romania with CNX, ORO, COA, ROM, HAT csc.
But they very old. Probably not downloadable.
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Hi guys,
I got my S4 back from the service center today and wanted to re-root the device, however to my surprise my i9505 was apparently upgraded to a i9506 (probably changed the motherboard) at the service center. I didn't have prior knowledge or warning regarding this, as such I assumed the phone was still a i9505 and flashed TWRP for i9505 through ODIN on my i9506 instead and now my phone is stuck on the bootloader screen with the error :"Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again."
I'm not really certain what I should do to fix it, i suppose this is a soft brick and should be possible to recover? What should I do to get it fixed? Reflash the stock i9506 firmware through ODIN?
Yes, just re flash the stock one
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Got it fixed thanks
Since the G531H can't be rooted yet, I've tried to downgrade to KitKat using odin and a image for the G530H. It failed. Can it be done?
PS> I am a noob.
LMAA420 said:
Since the G531H can't be rooted yet, I've tried to downgrade to KitKat using odin and a image for the G530H. It failed. Can it be done?
PS> I am a noob.
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It can't be done, since the g531h has another hardware specifications, you will ended with a bricked phone.
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Plz help me
LMAA420 said:
Since the G531H can't be rooted yet, I've tried to downgrade to KitKat using odin and a image for the G530H. It failed. Can it be done?
PS> I am a noob.
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Imposible .-.
531H 4.4.4 never had since its launch has been 5.1.1:fingers-crossed:
How can I downgrade from lollipop 5.0.2 to kitkat 4.4.4 stock rom
I am on galaxy grand prime G530H, I tried downgrading using Odin but failed
CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
THANKS IN ADVANCED
novinmia said:
How can I downgrade from lollipop 5.0.2 to kitkat 4.4.4 stock rom
I am on galaxy grand prime G530H, I tried downgrading using Odin but failed
CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
THANKS IN ADVANCED
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Go here, find the proper OS and country for your device >> http://samsung-firmware.org/model/SM-G530H/page/1
Many pages, 11+..then use Odin..I personally havent reverted to KK from LP..but I have reverted to an earlier version of 5.1.1..because I'm new to Samsung..and my Grand Prime, from box with 5.1.1
Dont know if you can revert to 4.4.4
The reason being, is a possible bootloader version change..in my past experiance with Moto devices, once the bootloader version changes, reverting cannot be done..
Research this..which may be your flash failure cause..or maybe a bad download or incorrect OS for your device..the country code MUST match..
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Thanks for your response, but still it didn't work. I did as you suggested; I downloaded
the correct firmware for my device, flashed it via Odin but failed. On device it shows "SW REV CHECK FAIL : (aboot) Fused 2 Binary 1" error
I recently updated to lollipop 5.0.2 via Odin, my phone model SM-G530H baseband G530HXXU2BOH5.
I think the reason I can't downgrade to Kitkat 4.4.4 is because of bootloader update.
I want to downgrade to Kitkat because most of the apps which used to work on Kitkat don't work on lollipop anymore, and also its very slow.
if anyone out there could help downgrade to Kitkat, plz do it. I would greatly appreciate it.
I'm sorry it didnt work for you..
Make sure you are flashing the correct OS for your device..I cant say for sure, new to Samsung..but probably a bootloader update issue..Maybe research which bootloader version with KK and LP..I think you may find your revert issue..I hope I'm wrong..please someone correct me if I'm wrong..
sent by my: SM-531M-57 Grand Prime (or) my: SM-N910C Note 4 (Lollipop 5.1.1)
since no one can tell me how to downgrade to Kitkat, it feels like I 'm stuck on lollipop forever. I 'm desperate to go back to Kitkat ; kindly let me know if you come up with something.
regards
novinmia said:
since no one can tell me how to downgrade to Kitkat, it feels like I 'm stuck on lollipop forever. I 'm desperate to go back to Kitkat ; kindly let me know if you come up with something.
regards
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Here >> http://samsung-firmware.org/model/SM-G531H/page/1
Go down this list..do you see 4.4.4 anywhere.?
You are asking for something that doesnt exist..and also..bootloader will PROBABLY be an issue..Dont think you realize what you are asking for..
If you MUST have 4.4.4 then sale your device and purchase a device on 4.4.4..SOLUTION..
Note Edge bootloop: phone screen goes black after Samsung logo, what are my options?
i have a galaxy note edge, but couple of days back when i unpluged my phone from the charger and tried to turn it on it would not boot up properly;even if it did it would turn itself off at different times. so i had decided to flash stock rom, thinking this could solve the problem. i downloaded stock rom from sammobile, flash it via odin,and it was successful;but when the phone rebooted with rebooting recovery on the top left of the screen then the screen went black. to turn the the device on again i have to pull the battery out and put back in after 10-15 seconds. and now whenever i try to turn the device on, it boots up with 'rebooting to recovery' on the top left of the screen but goes black as soon as the samsung logo shows up. i don't know what's causing this problem.
if anyone out there could help me get out of this problem,i would greatly appreciate it
thanks in advanced
Wanted to ask if it is safe to flash build number LMY48B.G531HXXU0AOK2 with build date of Nov 2015 over the build LMY48B.G531HXXU0APC2 with build date in March 2016.
Tl;dr is it safe to flash an older lollipop build over a new one using odin
I have a Samsung Note 4 (N910C) on 5.1.1 (COJ5) firmware. I have rooted the phone and put a RunningLite custom rom. There is a custom rom that I really like which runs only on 4.4.4 or 5.0.1 bootloader and not 5.1.1. Is there any way to downgrade the bootloader? I read somewhere that the COJ5 bootloader is locked by Samsung and cannot be downgraded? Is there any way to unlock the bootloader? Pls advice. Thanks!
You're not the first one to ask this. I have an SM-N910F (SnapDragon), and these have no problems downgrading. But looking around XDA, I've seen numerous posts saying the N910C (Exynos) can't be downgraded due to the bootloader. Since I don't own one, I can't really verify, but looking at the sheer number of people reporting the same thing... You know
-RFB
No we cant downgrade
Everytime Odin says falid....
Welcome to the club bro ??
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Me too...
Varun172 said:
I have a Samsung Note 4 (N910C) on 5.1.1 (COJ5) firmware. I have rooted the phone and put a RunningLite custom rom. There is a custom rom that I really like which runs only on 4.4.4 or 5.0.1 bootloader and not 5.1.1. Is there any way to downgrade the bootloader? I read somewhere that the COJ5 bootloader is locked by Samsung and cannot be downgraded? Is there any way to unlock the bootloader? Pls advice. Thanks!
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the new security patch update of march in note 4 locks the bootloader completely and prevents downgrading while before the update, the bootloader was unlocked and it was easily downgradable, I've seceded in that too..
now, after the update, the bootloader updates to COJ5 and above depending on areas and countries..
so its simple, any bootloader above that means you cant downgrade and any bootloader below that means its downgradable..
heres the solution,
firstly, you'll have to downgrade your bootloader
heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...37&postcount=3
download any bootloader below COJ5 of your current android version and model, that is 5.1.1 i guess..
exctract it and flast with ODIN in "BL" box..
you'll now have an unlocked bootloader..
than factory reset/ wipe data, wipe cache..
next, flash 5.0.1 via ODIN, factory rest again,
than finally flash 4.4.4 for your model and factory reset once more..
boom!!! you're good to go..
hope this helps
P.S: I'm not responsible for any damage, do it on your own risk..
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the new security patch update of march in note 4 locks the bootloader completely and prevents downgrading while before the update, the bootloader was unlocked and it was easily downgradable, I've seceded in that too..
now, after the update, the bootloader updates to COJ5 and above depending on areas and countries..
so its simple, any bootloader above that means you cant downgrade and any bootloader below that means its downgradable..
heres the solution,
firstly, you'll have to downgrade your bootloader
heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...37&postcount=3
download any bootloader below COJ5 of your current android version and model, that is 5.1.1 i guess..
exctract it and flast with ODIN in "BL" box..
you'll now have an unlocked bootloader..
than factory reset/ wipe data, wipe cache..
next, flash 5.0.1 via ODIN, factory rest again,
than finally flash 4.4.4 for your model and factory reset once more..
boom!!! you're good to go..
hope this helps
P.S: I'm not responsible for any damage, do it on your own risk..
and spread love
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the link doesn't work
tareqjordan said:
the link doesn't work
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58867937&postcount=3
mnanabhai21 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58867937&postcount=3
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hello to be sure you have note 4 with coj5 bootloader and you flashed older bootloader via ODIN with no problems? or just you suggest this method?
my bootloader was not COJ5, it was COK1 with XSG firmware,
i managed to downgrade it to COH4 and downgrade the firmware to 4.4.4 XSG
you can give it a shot..
might work..
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my bootloader was not COJ5, it was COK1 with XSG firmware,
i managed to downgrade it to COH4 and downgrade the firmware to 4.4.4 XSG
you can give it a shot..
might work..
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i have tried but failed ODIN error
Hi mates, could anyone help me?
Do I have that famous COJ5?why it doesnt appear like COJ5?
Version of Bootloader: CPC1
PDA: CPC1
CSC: COI1
Baseband: COK1
I would like to go back to kitkat and I don't know how can I do it now..
Thanks, Im apreciated.
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BRIPAC17 said:
Hi mates, could anyone help me?
Do I have that famous COJ5?why it doesnt appear like COJ5?
Version of Bootloader: CPC1
PDA: CPC1
CSC: COI1
Baseband: COK1
I would like to go back to kitkat and I don't know how can I do it now..
Thanks, Im apreciated.
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just wondering, how's the battery life on COK1? When at full charge, how long does the phone say it will last?
imeem said:
just wondering, how's the battery life on COK1? When at full charge, how long does the phone say it will last?
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I've been trying it since the update left and it's not as good as before, I will tell you how long does the phone say in my next full charge but I don't recommend it..
BRIPAC17 said:
I've been trying it since the update left and it's not as good as before, I will tell you how long does the phone say in my next full charge but I don't recommend it..
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dam I updated to COK1 before you posted. i'll do some battery impressions too.
As to answer your previous post, I have SM-n910c XSG and I updated to COK1 from COJ5. So you shouldn't have COJ5. what was ur update before that?
imeem said:
dam I updated to COK1 before you posted. i'll do some battery impressions too.
As to answer your previous post, I have SM-n910c XSG and I updated to COK1 from COJ5. So you shouldn't have COJ5. what was ur update before that?
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I don't remember because I didn't see it before I updated..:crying:
So, now, could you go back if you want to?Have you tried it?I mean, go back to KK or to another version of LL like 5.0.1
mnanabhai21 said:
the new security patch update of march in note 4 locks the bootloader completely and prevents downgrading while before the update, the bootloader was unlocked and it was easily downgradable, I've seceded in that too..
now, after the update, the bootloader updates to COJ5 and above depending on areas and countries..
so its simple, any bootloader above that means you cant downgrade and any bootloader below that means its downgradable..
heres the solution,
firstly, you'll have to downgrade your bootloader
heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...37&postcount=3
download any bootloader below COJ5 of your current android version and model, that is 5.1.1 i guess..
exctract it and flast with ODIN in "BL" box..
you'll now have an unlocked bootloader..
than factory reset/ wipe data, wipe cache..
next, flash 5.0.1 via ODIN, factory rest again,
than finally flash 4.4.4 for your model and factory reset once more..
boom!!! you're good to go..
hope this helps
P.S: I'm not responsible for any damage, do it on your own risk..
and spread love
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Are you sure?
amse_010 said:
i have tried but failed ODIN error
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Yes. Dont work. Failed ODIN
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BRIPAC17 said:
I don't remember because I didn't see it before I updated..:crying:
So, now, could you go back if you want to?Have you tried it?I mean, go back to KK or to another version of LL like 5.0.1
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I personally haven't tried it but i wanted to downgrade for better battery life. I'm not sure if mnanabhai21's method is safe and tested by others. And in general, I'm scared to tweak samsung devices :crying:
5.0.1 for me was terrible. Last time i remember, battery was good(?) but i had constantly had horrible performance in games/benchmarks. The one right b4 COJ5 had good battery life and performance for me.
the CSC is the problem, thats why Odin always says FAILED!!! at the end .. when he wanna flash the Hidden file.
Today i was downgrading from MM to KK.. just take latest LL firmware from your region (csc .. in my case DBT), flash the thing and than if you wanna KK do the same princip, but with same csc
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i have tried but failed ODIN error
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I Found a way to unlock the bootloader on coj5 through samsung kies
1: open samsung kies 3 and choose the 4th option in the up left side (tools) an then choose the 2nd option (firmware upgrade and iniciation)
2: in the new window introduce the phone model (SM-N910C/F/A...etc) click ok, now introduce the S/N: (which you can find in the battery´s place and for do that you´ll have to remove the battery from your phone and search the S/N on it ) once you have done introduce it such as it is, click ok, follow the steps put your phone into downloading mode and wait until it finishes ... and thats all enjoy :silly:
Hello guys,
First sry for my bad englisch, im from germany and my englisch isnt that good
im trying to downgrade my Note 3 (running on N9005XXSGBPL6/DBT/STOCK ANDROID 5.0) to Stock Android 4.4.2.
I have tryed already like any available stock 4.4.2 roms, but Either my device does not start and stucks at the samsung logo and ends up in a boot loop, or it freezes after the first few seconds after the boot.
I dont know what to do, i have tryed to wipe the cache and the data but it still doesnt work.
I also tryed different USB ports and different versions of odin.
I really want to have android 4.4.2 on my note 3 because it runs much better than 5.0, has less errors and uses less ram.
Maybe someone knows a solution for my problem.
I'm not sure about your note 3 but some Samsung phones do not allow downgrading the bootloader from 5.0 to 4.4.2.
Were you able to successfully flash a stock 4.4.2 ROM with Odin?
audit13 said:
I'm not sure about your note 3 but some Samsung phones do not allow downgrading the bootloader from 5.0 to 4.4.2.
Were you able to successfully flash a stock 4.4.2 ROM with Odin?
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Yes, i sucessfully flashed 4.4.2 but after i logged into my google account it freezes and i was stuck in a bootloop
Did you confirm that the bootloader and modem are also at 4.4.2?
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Did you confirm that the bootloader and modem are also at 4.4.2?
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The app phone info says: Bootloader-Version: N9005XXSGBPL6
I think thats the 5.0 bootloader?
See Bootloader Baseband thread in General section .
Lionkilian said:
The app phone info says: Bootloader-Version: N9005XXSGBPL6
I think thats the 5.0 bootloader?
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Yes, it looks like the phone is still on a 5.0 bootloader. If the ROM and modem are on 4.4.2, this is probably why things are not working well.
audit13 said:
Yes, it looks like the phone is still on a 5.0 bootloader. If the ROM and modem are on 4.4.2, this is probably why things are not working well.
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I flashed the 4.4.2 rom again and i was able to finish the setup part.
But now its frozen again....
What is the model # in download mode?
I downgraded from stock 5.0 to Omega 4.4.2 no problem. Nothing special, not even a clean install. Everything working great for 2 years now.