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[Q] Downgrade to older stock ROM N9005?

Hey all!
Is it possible to downgrade from a newer (NE3) firmware to an older (ND3) through Odin or it will brick my phone because of the bootloader?
The only things I know are that 1) Downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 is not possible 2) It's possibile to install a custom older rom on new bootloader and vice versa BUT I don't know if it's possible with stock roms with Odin.
I looked for a solution but nothing found and no one answered me so I opened this thread to find out a solution.
Thanks in advance.

UP still interested because NE4 + custom kernel gives problems that others doesn't have
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Dan
I also wanted to do dawngrade because the because the 4.4.2 is **** battery does not hold as it should as was holding before the update

kylothow said:
Hey all!
Is it possible to downgrade from a newer (NE3) firmware to an older (ND3) through Odin or it will brick my phone because of the bootloader?
The only things I know are that 1) Downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 is not possible 2) It's possibile to install a custom older rom on new bootloader and vice versa BUT I don't know if it's possible with stock roms with Odin.
I looked for a solution but nothing found and no one answered me so I opened this thread to find out a solution.
Thanks in advance.
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I never actually tried going back to an older version but I really don't see why you shouldn't. As long as it's KitKat 4.4.2 just try it should work. I downgraded my Modem and haven't had any issue.
With the Bootloader worry...did you even change the bootloader? As well as the Modem you have to do that separate to the Rom, as flashing a Rom doesn't touch Modem an Bootloader!!! If you don't know how to do that please just leave it alone though unless you read, read, read a lot on how to do that.

4aces said:
I never actually tried going back to an older version but I really don't see why you shouldn't. As long as it's KitKat 4.4.2 just try it should work. I downgraded my Modem and haven't had any issue.
With the Bootloader worry...did you even change the bootloader? As well as the Modem you have to do that separate to the Rom, as flashing a Rom doesn't touch Modem an Bootloader!!! If you don't know how to do that please just leave it alone though unless you read, read, read a lot on how to do that.
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Thanks for the reply, every time I install a new rom I make sure to update the bootloader and modem too, and from what I can read from the Synapse app I have the NE3 modem and NE4 bootloader.
I'm asking how to go back to older roms because going from 4.4.2 to 4.3 updating the bootloader with Odin you obtain only a fancy paper weight, and I didn't know if going from newer to older 4.4.2 bootloader it was the same story.
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kylothow said:
Thanks for the reply, every time I install a new rom I make sure to update the bootloader and modem too, and from what I can read from the Synapse app I have the NE3 modem and NE4 bootloader.
I'm asking how to go back to older roms because going from 4.4.2 to 4.3 updating the bootloader with Odin you obtain only a fancy paper weight, and I didn't know if going from newer to older 4.4.2 bootloader it was the same story.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I'm pretty sure there won't be an issue mate since I flash between custom roms almost daily which are most of the time different models. If you want to be 100% sure wait for someone to confirm as I'm rooted since I got the chance to do so.

Thanks to the developer Civato I read on his FlexKat thread he correctly downgraded his bootloader from NE6 to ND6 with Odin...
So problem solved, this is definitely possible.
Thank you everyone for your replies :good:

Downgrading bootloaders on the same version generally tends to work OK, mainly because on 4.3 Samsung patched the security flaw which stopped you going <MJ7
Kith Kitkat I never had any issues flipping back and forth.--- Until it's a BL upgrade with OS Number change (IE: 4.4.3 if it has new BL) then it shouldn't work.

hi. sorry,this is probably an old thread but I need some help,please and somehow,Google got me here. I want to downgrade (not really downgrade) my N9005 to 4.4.2.
I currently have a custom ROM(resurrection remix v5.6.9,in settings it says that I have android 6.0.1 marshmallow). Also,I have a custom recovery(TWRP). Well,I would like to install the KitKat stock ROM and really did a lot of research but I cannot find it anywhere :'( . Do you know any source? And also,can I flash it with mobile ODIN? When I opened Mobile Odin Pro it said that if I don't have the boot loader for the ROM I want to install then I will experience a soft brick. Isn't TWRP a good boot loader?
Also,does it matter what version of N9005 I own? mine is: XXUGBOJ1. Could I flash smth that is not for this ..base band is it called?...
pls help
I'm such a newbie and I don't wanna mess up

PainCutter said:
hi. sorry,this is probably an old thread but I need some help,please and somehow,Google got me here. I want to downgrade (not really downgrade) my N9005 to 4.4.2.
I currently have a custom ROM(resurrection remix v5.6.9,in settings it says that I have android 6.0.1 marshmallow). Also,I have a custom recovery(TWRP). Well,I would like to install the KitKat stock ROM and really did a lot of research but I cannot find it anywhere :'( . Do you know any source? And also,can I flash it with mobile ODIN? When I opened Mobile Odin Pro it said that if I don't have the boot loader for the ROM I want to install then I will experience a soft brick. Isn't TWRP a good boot loader?
Also,does it matter what version of N9005 I own? mine is: XXUGBOJ1. Could I flash smth that is not for this ..base band is it called?...
pls help
I'm such a newbie and I don't wanna mess up
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Get a 4.4.2 fw and flash with windows odin. Not really familiar with mobile odin. Find fw for you country csc. Flashing other csc fw sometimes requires pit file so better get the 1 for your country or originally came with the phone.
Sent from my SM-N920C

Rosli59564 said:
Get a 4.4.2 fw and flash with windows odin. Not really familiar with mobile odin. Find fw for you country csc. Flashing other csc fw sometimes requires pit file so better get the 1 for your country or originally came with the phone.
Sent from my SM-N920C
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I'd do that..my csc is for Romania. But I cannot find anywhere on the Internet the fw. And I searched alot

PainCutter said:
I'd do that..my csc is for Romania. But I cannot find anywhere on the Internet the fw. And I searched alot
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Samsung updates.com.
I can see a few for Romania with CNX, ORO, COA, ROM, HAT csc.
But they very old. Probably not downloadable.
Sent from my SM-G925F

4.4.4 -> 4.4.2 Odin Fail

Hey XDA, new here but long-time lurker, I like many am stuck with 4.4.4 on my n900v and am looking for a way out. So far the only promising thing I've seen is the video for the n900a (which ihas locked bootloader as well?). I got all the files replaced for the n900v version to at least get back from 4.4.4. to 4.4.2 but Odin is failing with the sw rev check fail fused 4 binary 3 error. I am using the stock NC4 fimware and have tried several downloads, I've tried Odin 3.10 and 3.09 and made sure running in admin and everything checked that's needed. I also made sure my phone has USB debugging enabled and Unknown Sources checked. I've read that I should try a custom rom but assume that with my locked bootloader that wouldn't work either. The n900a has a locked bootloader as well I believe which is why I thought that if I replaced the files with Verizon versions the instructions in the video would work.
Is there any way back to 4.4.2 from 4.4.4 on the n900v or am I screwed? Thanks! :fingers-crossed:

jland13 said:
Hey XDA, new here but long-time lurker, I like many am stuck with 4.4.4 on my n900v and am looking for a way out. So far the only promising thing I've seen is the video for the n900a (which ihas locked bootloader as well?). I got all the files replaced for the n900v version to at least get back from 4.4.4. to 4.4.2 but Odin is failing with the sw rev check fail fused 4 binary 3 error. I am using the stock NC4 fimware and have tried several downloads, I've tried Odin 3.10 and 3.09 and made sure running in admin and everything checked that's needed. I also made sure my phone has USB debugging enabled and Unknown Sources checked. I've read that I should try a custom rom but assume that with my locked bootloader that wouldn't work either. The n900a has a locked bootloader as well I believe which is why I thought that if I replaced the files with Verizon versions the instructions in the video would work.
Is there any way back to 4.4.2 from 4.4.4 on the n900v or am I screwed? Thanks! :fingers-crossed:
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No

Such helpful, many wows....
But serious why can AT&T Note 3 be downgraded with a locked Bootloader but Verizon can't?

Because it can't read the other hundred posts in regards to this

Just thank verizon for this mess.

Because 4.4.4 has a different bootloader which blocks out downgrading to 4.4.2. That's why you can't go back to 4.4.2 once you go to 4.4.4 and more than likely whenever Lollipop comes (rather if be 5.0.x or 5.1) they will more than likely block downgrading to 4.4.x or whatever on that too.

Yes I understand the whole locked bootloader part, just confused on why you can downgrade AT&T's which is locked also I thought? Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything but looks like Im SoL like the rest of ya. (No wonder so grumpy). Thanks. :crying:

jland13 said:
Yes I understand the whole locked bootloader part, just confused on why you can downgrade AT&T's which is locked also I thought? Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything but looks like Im SoL like the rest of ya. (No wonder so grumpy). Thanks. :crying:
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Because AT&T and Verizon are two different companies who have 2 different requirements for their phones even if from the same manufacturer.
Verizon requires their updates to not be downgrade able while AT&T apparently doesn't have that requirement.
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Stuck on boot screen
I have tried to root my note 3 sm 900v .i am new to flashing and rooting.i donwloaded the file root_dE_la_Vega .tried to put the file using odin but while flashing it failed and i am facing an error that says "FIRMWARE UPGRADE ENCOUNTERED AN ISSUE.PLEASE USE SOFTWARE REPAIR ASSISTANT & TRY AGAIN"
i dont know what to do and how to fix it.can i flash jasmine rom in it.as its not a rooted device but jasmine rom includes root.
it was on 4.4.2 NC4 kernal
please help

Mian Aleem said:
I have tried to root my note 3 sm 900v .i am new to flashing and rooting.i donwloaded the file root_dE_la_Vega .tried to put the file using odin but while flashing it failed and i am facing an error that says "FIRMWARE UPGRADE ENCOUNTERED AN ISSUE.PLEASE USE SOFTWARE REPAIR ASSISTANT & TRY AGAIN"
i dont know what to do and how to fix it.can i flash jasmine rom in it.as its not a rooted device but jasmine rom includes root.
it was on 4.4.2 NC4 kernal
please help
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if you're on NC4 just use towel root v3 to root.

Mian Aleem said:
I have tried to root my note 3 sm 900v .i am new to flashing and rooting.i donwloaded the file root_dE_la_Vega .tried to put the file using odin but while flashing it failed and i am facing an error that says "FIRMWARE UPGRADE ENCOUNTERED AN ISSUE.PLEASE USE SOFTWARE REPAIR ASSISTANT & TRY AGAIN"
i dont know what to do and how to fix it.can i flash jasmine rom in it.as its not a rooted device but jasmine rom includes root.
it was on 4.4.2 NC4 kernal
please help
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Use this guide from Droidstyle, ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46461911), which should help you restore the phone back to factory stock 4.4.2 NC4. Then (like BladeRunner said), you can use Towelroot to gain root access. Just don't update the phone to any Android versions past 4.4.2 or you will lose ability to root, as there's no current root method for 4.4.4 for our phones.

Anyway to Downgrade from 5.1.1 (COJ5) to 5.0.1 ?! N910C

can i downgrade from 5.1.1 N910CXXU2COJ5 to any 5.0.1 ?
If Yes , How can i do so please
Why i want to do so , i want to run MIUI :angel:

no one knows !

I'm having the same problem here. After the OTA update to COJ5, Odin always fail to flash any ROM before COJ5 (device display the message sw rev.check fail device 2 binary 1). Also, all the root methods that worked on COJ4 stopped working in this new version, always resulting in a infinite bootloop forcing me to reflash COJ5 in Odin. I even went to TWRP and completely wiped my phone (including system) but still coudn't install any previous version (installing the SuperSU through TWRP also results in infinite bootloop now). Did anyone find a solution for this yet? I'm guessing that this won't be a problem for just Galaxy Note 4....

Dolphin87 said:
can i downgrade from 5.1.1 N910CXXU2COJ5 to any 5.0.1 ?
If Yes , How can i do so please
Why i want to do so , i want to run MIUI :angel:
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Step 1: Flash Bootloader 5.0.1 First
Step 2: Downgrade
link for bootloaders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58867937&postcount=3
tell me if this works for you

kerbiii said:
Step 1: Flash Bootloader 5.0.1 First
Step 2: Downgrade
link for bootloaders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58867937&postcount=3
tell me if this works for you
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Do these exist for the 910U? I'm having the same problem. Thanks!

kerbiii said:
Step 1: Flash Bootloader 5.0.1 First
Step 2: Downgrade
link for bootloaders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58867937&postcount=3
tell me if this works for you
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Well, while [5.1.1 COJ4] can be downgraded to 5.0.1, [5.1.1 COJ5] can't. The problem may be exactly the bootloader that cannot be downgraded through ODIN. I don't believe that any common procedure will work for this downgrade. We will likely need a different approach.
I also read in some forum that while Odin won't work anymore, TWRP (or CWM) still will. So this leads to other two questions:
* Is there any place we can download stock roms in recovery format instead of ODIN's?
* If not, is there any way we can convert Stock Roms from ODIN's format to TWRP's?

amidsal said:
Well, while [5.1.1 COJ4] can be downgraded to 5.0.1, [5.1.1 COJ5] can't. The problem may be exactly the bootloader that cannot be downgraded through ODIN. I don't believe that any common procedure will work for this downgrade. We will likely need a different approach.
I also read in some forum that while Odin won't work anymore, TWRP (or CWM) still will. So this leads to other two questions:
* Is there any place we can download stock roms in recovery format instead of ODIN's?
* If not, is there any way we can convert Stock Roms from ODIN's format to TWRP's?
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if that is the case get a backup from your friend or someone with the same model like you and make sure they have a kitkat or 5.0.1 version

I have the same problem, after updade coj5 I can not downgrade to kitkat 4.4.4

@amidsal and @kirbiii, did you try this and get it to work? If so, how did you do it?

vince.lupe said:
@amidsal and @kirbiii, did you try this and get it to work? If so, how did you do it?
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Sadly no. I'm still believe that the best (if not the only way) right now is through JTAG.
Excluding direct access to the internal SD Card, the only way to overwrite the protected memory in the device is through the bootloader, which is protected itself.

I did managed to downgrade my note 4 N910U from 5.1.1 to 5.0.1.

Ryan1469 said:
I did managed to downgrade my note 4 N910U from 5.1.1 to 5.0.1.
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how I have 910C ,maybe we can use your method

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igorir said:
I have the same problem, after updade coj5 I can not downgrade to kitkat 4.4.4
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I managed to run 4.4.4 x-note rom on n910c with ultimate kernel v9 I have coj5 bootloader

Any details? How did you do it? It looks like you are the only one who succeeded.
Thx
Tom

Aze0077 said:
I managed to run 4.4.4 x-note rom on n910c with ultimate kernel v9 I have coj5 bootloader
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bro can u please upload ultimate kernel v9?i have searched almost everywhere but i cannot find

[URGENT!] Possibly bricked phone when downgrading [SM-N910C]

Hi All,
I had Android 4.4.4 (KK) running on my Note 4 (SM-N910C version). A week ago, I decided to upgrade to 5.1.1 (Lollipop) but after using it these days, I decided to go back...
In the past, I have installed 5.0.1 LL on this phone and went back to KK without any problems whatsoever, but this time, when trying to flash KK back on Odin, it ends at "FAIL"...
At the same time, my phone displays "SW. REV. CHECK FAIL. DEVICE: 2, BINARY 1" on download mode and I'm afraid it is now bricked because when I try to boot the phone to system, it gets stuck on the main screen (samsung logo and model) and it never boots up...
This is what I did to my phone so far when installing 5.1.1:
1) Flashed 5.1.1 stock firmware from Sammobile.
2) Rooted using talexop Kernel.
My phone has the latest version of TWRP recovery installed and I currently have access to both this and download mode. I need urgent help :crying:, leaving on Holiday in a week and I need my phone functional! I tried googling and searching over the forum, and I saw some stuff but it was not really helpful for my case.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks a bunch in advance,
museruy

your device is ok
just download stock lollipop 5.1.1 from sammobile and reflash it with odin

osamaAlrogi said:
your device is ok
just download stock lollipop 5.1.1 from sammobile and reflash it with odin
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This is what I'm trying as of right now... Fingers crossed.
Is there any workaround to downgrade to KK safely?
Regards,
museruy

museruy said:
This is what I'm trying as of right now... Fingers crossed.
Is there any workaround to downgrade to KK safely?
Regards,
museruy
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nope coz bootloader coj5 locked by samsung :crying:

Need help (downgrade problems)

I ve bought an S4 i9505 and sadly it came with android 5 *tear*. I ve tried to flash an 2013 stock rom, odin always Fails. It doesnt even load 1%. I just want a stock android 4.2.2 or 4.3 rom. Can someone help me downgrade?

You cannot downgrade to anything older than 4.4.2.

audit13 said:
You cannot downgrade to anything older than 4.4.2.
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i already have a method to downgrade to 4.3 but I need android 4.4.2 and as i said if i try to flash a 4.4 or 4.2 firmware it fails immediatly in odin

@Up: Perhaps the thread here is useful for your problem. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
Good Luck..

No-Lags said:
@Up: Perhaps the thread here is useful for your problem. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
Good Luck..
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thank you for your reply but hopefully my phone is okay (running 5.0.1 after odin fail)
the problem is that I can t flash any custom recovery/other firmware because of error "There is no pit partition" in Odin, my phone is not bricked, but I cant flash PhilZ or CWM or any firmware for some reason

RaaHero said:
I ve bought an S4 i9505 and sadly it came with android 5 *tear*. I ve tried to flash an 2013 stock rom, odin always Fails. It doesnt even load 1%. I just want a stock android 4.2.2 or 4.3 rom. Can someone help me downgrade?
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i already have a method to downgrade to 4.3 but I need android 4.4.2 and as i said if i try to flash a 4.4 or 4.2 firmware it fails immediatly in odin
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You have a method to downgrade to 4.3 which is what you wanted in your original post, no?
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thank you for your reply but hopefully my phone is okay (running 5.0.1 after odin fail)
the problem is that I can t flash any custom recovery/other firmware because of error "There is no pit partition" in Odin, my phone is not bricked, but I cant flash PhilZ or CWM or any firmware for some reason
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Are you using the original USB cable?

audit13 said:
You have a method to downgrade to 4.3 which is what you wanted in your original post, no?
Are you using the original USB cable?
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Yes I am using the original usb cable that came in the box in a USB 2.0 port with usb driver for i9505 and kies installed (and i close it with taskmgr when i open odin)
My method of downgrading to android 4.3 needs PhilZ/CWM and android 4.4.2 (i cant test on 5 because it says There is no pit partition when i try to flash recovery/root)
I got a odex 4.3 stock rom with more stuff but it can be installed with custom recovery, not odin, like a custom one. But i am afraid that I need atleast android 4.4.2 to keep modem working.

Flashing a ROM with Philz/CWM will not usually flash the bootloader and this may be the cause of the problem in that you are trying to run a 4.2.2/4.3/4.4.2 ROM on a 5.01 bootloader and modem.

Well I would downgrade to android 4.4 by Odin but as I said flashing anything will say "There is no pit partition" (re-partition is off)

Using an incompatible USB cable could cause Odin tool fail when reading the phone partition information.
If you have tried with a short, original Samsung USB cable, not sure what else to suggest.
I have flashed many s3, s4, note 2 and note 3 phones and never had a problem with an original Samsung USB cable unless the phone was defective.

well i ve already talked to someone i know from a service and tommorow i will send the phone to them and they will flash android 4.2.2 or 4.3 on it

If the phone is running a 5.01 bootloader, I highly doubt they can downgrade the bootloader. I've never come across a post on XDA where the Samsung 5.01 bootloader was successfully downgraded to anything older than 4.4.2, even using a riff or octopus box.
Please let us know how it turns out. I hope you are successful.