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Sony launches 'updated' Xperia Z1 in China

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/12/1...ches-in-china-as-the-xperia-z1-l39t/#comments
Big changes:
-aluminum frame replaced by chrome plastic frame
-No microsd support, default 32GB storage in device
-Different placement of headphone jack
Internals are all the same. This is believed to be the Z1s 'refresh' that people were talking about being released. Looks like an inferior version of the current Z1, albeit a little bit lighter.

The most important thing is support for LTE-TDD I think as I can't open the link now.
And another why you guys focus on the Z1's follower, at least SoC or some more important things added like nexus 5's Senors batch access. Other small change not a big deal for sell the phone in your hand and get a new one.If Sony begin the rule in world like in Japan, the phone will refresh 3 months, and what, told yourself I must get the new one?
Sorry for the last part but can't stand for some guys wish to ruin such a good phone.

it is just a variant rather than "updated" Z1. it is almost identical with just minor changes rather than improvements.

This is just the China Mobile variant of the Z1, nothing more. China Unicom's version was the L39, this will be the L39t. China Mobile runs their own proprietary version of CDMA and this device will be compatible with their TD-LTE bands. If you live in China that's a great thing, outside of China this will only work on 3G bands.

jlevy73 said:
This is just the China Mobile variant of the Z1, nothing more. China Unicom's version was the L39, this will be the L39t. China Mobile runs their own proprietary version of CDMA and this device will be compatible with their TD-LTE bands. If you live in China that's a great thing, outside of China this will only work on 3G bands.
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I just got the L39t and i am outside china, i can use it with TD LTE/ FDD LTE /WCDMA / GSM
however, all the existing root method are not applicable to this variant Z1 L39t
Probably the interior is not same as the normal version

But... what's the purpose??

KWOKSFUNG said:
But... what's the purpose??
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Maybe when US version Z1s have root, it'll work for China version also?
People in China must be pist off with no sdcard slot.?
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epsix said:
Maybe when US version Z1s have root, it'll work for China version also?
People in China must be pist off with no sdcard slot.?
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I'm quite sure that it wont be a hard job if those chinese want to get the international c6903
btw, was it c6906 or c6943 in america?? they can be rooted

epsix said:
Maybe when US version Z1s have root, it'll work for China version also?
People in China must be pist off with no sdcard slot.?
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For the China version Z1 L39t, its only Android 4.2.2 while other version of Z1 is 4.3

S805 G3 prime confirmed

Well, this kinda sucks...
http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/07/11/lg-g3-prime-2
I guess Samsung did the same thing with their prime too though.
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this is old news and it is only korean variant

hello00 said:
this is old news and it is only korean variant
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You didn't read the article
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robstunner said:
You didn't read the article
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Every other site I've read this story on, including androidauthority, says not to expect the phone outside of korea.

theraker007 said:
Every other site I've read this story on, including androidauthority, says not to expect the phone outside of korea.
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Yep. LG and Samsung are doing "Prime" versions for the CAT6 support that Korea got. I don't see why they would release it for the rest of the world or if they do, it will take a while.

bobbarker2 said:
Yep. LG and Samsung are doing "Prime" versions for the CAT6 support that Korea got. I don't see why they would release it for the rest of the world or if they do, it will take a while.
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Hopefully they stay in Korea
However the flex 2 shouldn't be that far away either
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Are there even any LTE Cat 6 networks deployed in Europe/US? I've mostly heard of testing going on in Europe and with deployment dates in 2015. Doesn't seem worth it for LG to sell the Prime version here, if the main selling point of the phone can't even be properly used yet.

WarCow said:
Are there even any LTE Cat 6 networks deployed in Europe/US? I've mostly heard of testing going on in Europe and with deployment dates in 2015. Doesn't seem worth it for LG to sell the Prime version here, if the main selling point of the phone can't even be properly used yet.
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True, but never say never.
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Will the 805 improve battery life?

Michael1211 said:
Will the 805 improve battery life?
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Hard to say, according to the pocketnow comparison with the s5 and s5 lte-a, battery life is the same, however that's an 805 with qhd screen.
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hello00 said:
this is old news and it is only korean variant
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For now. The 805 is a better fit for Qhd, so makes sense we will see a variant later this year. LG will have no choice not to, since Samsung will have a Note 4 and S5 update with Qhd and the 805.
An executive from LG that was in Greece already stated there will be models later this year outside of Korea, but Korea is the focus for now. That is business speak for Yes, there will be an 805 model.

rushless said:
For now. The 805 is a better fit for Qhd, so makes sense we will see a variant later this year. LG will have no choice not to, since Samsung will have a Note 4 and S5 update with Qhd and the 805.
A leader from LG in Greece already stated there will be models later this year, outside of Korea, but Korea is the focus for now. That is business speak for Yes, there will be an 805 model.
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However I'm reading that the 805 requires a certain kind of LTE chip, one that doesn't work with us networks at the moment.
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The radio is separate, but is ready based on the Note 4 launching in September.

rushless said:
The radio is separate, but is ready based on the Note 4 launching in September.
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In starting to think it won't be a g3 print coming, but more like a flex 2 with that 805.
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I will cry if the Snapdragon Variant is not available in Europe !!!

Hey Guys,
I am currently using the S6 and I hate this damn piece of S*** because the phone reception and call quality is conclusively terrible compared to other devices that are using the Snapdragon Processor Variant.
Don't tell me it's not true because I have tested it. RECEPTION WITH EXYNOS PRROCESSORS IS TERRIBLE - PERIOD.
I want the Snapdragon and I am really hoping it will be available in Europe. What if it isn't? can I still by the Snapdragon and will it work on the LTE bands in Europe? Any known disadvantages?
I'd love to hear your words.

Contacted Samsung France today ... It's sadly true ... No custom ROMs for us ..

That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
There is no doubt at all that the Exynos variant has a significantly worse LTE Radio and for that I will simply buy the G5 after 8 YEARS OF SAMSUNG ONLY.
It's enough suffering with this crap reception, dropped and missed calls! Worthless Samsung - FAIL
NEVER AGAIN.

I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??

sayou94 said:
I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??
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Most likely ebay.com, i doubt tmobile will ship one to you.

I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?

sayou94 said:
I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?
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But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.

peachpuff said:
But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.
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I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made ?)

h2o64 said:
I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made )
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You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:

sayou94 said:
You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
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Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820

h2o64 said:
Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
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Need an SD820 variant

clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...

I found some on eBay but it's 1k€
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That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.

dew.man said:
clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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You might want to check which model this actually is prior to purchasing. Global version G395F does not have Snapdragon meaning they're likely selling an Overpriced G395T.

exxi said:
That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
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So, to confirm, you had superior reception on a completely different phone from a completely different manufacturer and you automatically put it down to the chipset?

So anyone has a idea about how getting SD820 in Europe without paying 900€+ ?

dew.man said:
clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly

MiNoOo said:
I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly
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EBay is the only way..

mathieulh said:
That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
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Thanks, that's good news. Where did you get that information. I'm okay with the Exynos processor as it is but I know that the lte modem on the s6 is terrible. What's the best way to find out how the reception of the Exynos variant stacks up against the snapdragon variant ?
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Galaxy S7 Edge model numbers and chipsets

Hi all,
By now we know there are different model numbers that come with various chipsets. UK/Europe gets the Exynos version that has model number SM-G935F.
My question? Which models come with Snapdragon on board? The model numbers I know of are SM-G935(SD) for US, SM-G935F(Exynos) and SM-G935FD for Europe and what I heard of there are also SM-G935C and SM-G935X which I have no clue of.
Could you post your model numbers and chipsets?
I really want that extra 25% worth of graphical performance that Adreno gets you and would be really nice to know if I can get that model in Europe.

G-XtremE said:
Hi all,
By now we know there are different model numbers that come with various chipsets. UK/Europe gets the Exynos version that has model number SM-G935F.
My question? Which models come with Snapdragon on board? The model numbers I know of are SM-G935(SD) for US, SM-G935F(Exynos) and SM-G935FD for Europe and what I heard of there are also SM-G935C and SM-G935X which I have no clue of.
Could you post your model numbers and chipsets?
I really want that extra 25% worth of graphical performance that Adreno gets you and would be really nice to know if I can get that model in Europe.
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that 25% you will loose out in worse battery life and worse CPU compaired to the Exynos..not worth it IMO

Probably a stupid question but I am trying to register my phone with Samsung and it asks for the model number. I type it in sm-g935f but it wants the rest of the model after I saw this somewhere when first setting it up but can't find it anywhere now so it doesn't recognise my serial number can someone tell me where to find it googling is not helping thanks

johanbiff said:
that 25% you will loose out in worse battery life and worse CPU compaired to the Exynos..not worth it IMO
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Is there a proper battery life comparison anywhere yet? I have a feeling the Exynos will be more battery-friendly but I can't be sure

tryfound said:
Is there a proper battery life comparison anywhere yet? I have a feeling the Exynos will be more battery-friendly but I can't be sure
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there is some in the battery section. overall the Exynos have better battery from what I can see, will do my own in a cupple of days since mine is only on 1st charge(exynos model) but it`s looking VERY promesing so far.

johanbiff said:
there is some in the battery section. overall the Exynos have better battery from what I can see, will do my own in a cupple of days since mine is only on 1st charge(exynos model) but it`s looking VERY promesing so far.
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Thank you as I would be very interested as I have the snapdragon and for a phone with such a large battery have been disappointed as it seems my nexus 6P does better over all. I am on my fourth day with S7.
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off topic but with exynos i get around 6-6.30 hours with screen off... pretty amazing for me if i compare it withe the s6 i had..

Which colors come to which markets? At launch in Romania we have only the gold and black edition, G935F with exynos.
I heard that white will not be available for US at launch.
Which colors does Europe get?

G-XtremE said:
Which colors come to which markets? At launch in Romania we have only the gold and black edition, G935F with exynos.
I heard that white will not be available for US at launch.
Which colors does Europe get?
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Samsung Italia is offering all three colors.

SM-G9350 sold in China and Hong Kong is Snapdragon.

Is it worth buying the international version of the s10 plus

As far as do you guys think it will have a decent rom and kernel development section? Because the only reason I would buy a international version is for the custom Tom and kernels and mods. Thanks In advance!!!
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yes - there is already some development in the S10 threads for compatible mods for our phone ...as twrp is updated and installation simplified, there will be even more development.

I have the international version and find that I have been getting software/firmware updates much sooner than they come through the US carriers.

cmexec said:
I have the international version and find that I have been getting software/firmware updates much sooner than they come through the US carriers.
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Are you located in the US are you in the international foreign country? And how much did you pay for your S10 plus out of curiosity because I found one on eBay for 830 bucks is that a good deal or not? Thanks in advance take care!!!
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GDane1 said:
Are you located in the US are you in the international foreign country? And how much did you pay for your S10 plus out of curiosity because I found one on eBay for 830 bucks is that a good deal or not? Thanks in advance take care!!!
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If you are in the u.s. what US carrier are you using with your International S10 plus device thank you take care
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I got the G9750 because I didnt want the Exynos - Exynos is the only option in Australia. TBH I love the SD855 version. Its awesomly quick and battery life thats brilliant. I don't think you would get this version of the phone if you want to mod.

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If you are in the u.s. what US carrier are you using with your International S10 plus device thank you take care
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I am based in the USA, using the international S10+ on T-Mobile. I bought it from Clove Technology in the UK (very good service). It was for the same price as the USA model at the time (pre-order time-frame). My phone was delivered in NY the same day the phone was publicly released in the USA.

cmexec said:
I am based in the USA, using the international S10+ on T-Mobile. I bought it from Clove Technology in the UK (very good service). It was for the same price as the USA model at the time (pre-order time-frame). My phone was delivered in NY the same day the phone was publicly released in the USA.
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Alright thanks for your response.I'm on T-Mobile as well. What kind of download speeds do you get on a speed test out of curiosity using the international model on T-Mobile network I'm just curious thanks in advance for your reply take care my friend.
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I'm not really up on the specifics, but from what I understand the international version lacks some of the LTE bands used by some carriers in North America. Also, some carriers apparently disallow volte and wifi calling under certain circumstances for foreign esn's.
Worth exploring further if you're buying from overseas and those kinds of things matter to you.

Yes, it's worth it. Rooting makes the phone better. You get better audio with viper4android, custom roms and customization. You get more control of your $1k phone
Using att on my s10+ exynos. Lightning speed here in Beantown

Player04 said:
Yes, it's worth it. Rooting makes the phone better. You get better audio with viper4android, custom roms and customization. You get more control of your $1k phone
Using att on my s10+ exynos. Lightning speed here in Beantown
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Could you use Google Pay on a rooted phone?
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bloodydawn01 said:
Could you use Google Pay on a rooted phone?
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Not sure if it depends on the phone, but I'm using Google Pay and Samsung Pay (through my Samsung watch) on my rooted Pixel 3Xl. I'm able to do this by hiding root in Magisk.
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GDane1 said:
Alright thanks for your response.I'm on T-Mobile as well. What kind of download speeds do you get on a speed test out of curiosity using the international model on T-Mobile network I'm just curious thanks in advance for your reply take care my friend.
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This depends on your coverage. I did do a side by side test with a T-Mobile 6t, and my international S10. We were getting similar speeds side by side.
The fastest I've gotten is 110 Mbps. Which is similar to the LTE on my previous devices. Even with CA on a 6t, you get the same or similar speeds. The only difference right now for me, was my service on a call while driving. I had a little connectivity issue while on a call recently ( just breaking up here and there).
Also, it may depend on your CSC if you have Carrier Aggregation for certain bands enabled. My XSA does not.

Exynos
cheetah2k said:
I got the G9750 because I didnt want the Exynos - Exynos is the only option in Australia. TBH I love the SD855 version. Its awesomly quick and battery life thats brilliant. I don't think you would get this version of the phone if you want to mod.
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Exynos says other wise, much faster single core speeds and i get 8-9 hours sot... qualcomm like to reallllyy sell there products so they do theyre best to bull**** to the people its been proven same as the kirin 980 cheats look it up.. exynos is the true performer

But why
GDane1 said:
As far as do you guys think it will have a decent rom and kernel development section? Because the only reason I would buy a international version is for the custom Tom and kernels and mods. Thanks In advance!!!
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Why would you spend 1000 dollers on a phone just to install a custom rom like linage lol why not buy a oneplus 6 and mod that

kevinireland11 said:
Why would you spend 1000 dollers on a phone just to install a custom rom like linage lol why not buy a oneplus 6 and mod that
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Maybe because the OnePlus 6 does not have the same specs???
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I dont need it. Im all about paying in cash

kevinireland11 said:
Exynos says other wise, much faster single core speeds and i get 8-9 hours sot... qualcomm like to reallllyy sell there products so they do theyre best to bull**** to the people its been proven same as the kirin 980 cheats look it up.. exynos is the true performer
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If #benchmarklife is your thing, then each to their own, thats cool. I like to game and the Exynos game lag experience is real. Plus the Qualcomm 4G/wifi modems are the best in industry.
I also disagree on battery life, I've done a side by side comparisson with the Exynos and SD855 - using them the way I use a phone and my SOT was around 6hrs for the SD855 and under 5 for the Exynos. I would love to see your battery stats getting 8-9 hrs SOT, because, cough, it seems, cough, a little bull**** to be honest.. :laugh:
Here's a good comparison between the 2 handsets, I fail to see how the Exynos is better than the SD855 S10+. But thats ok. Im sure your own benchmarks show a different story :good:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review
For me, ultimately, the biggest issue with Exynos in Australia is that wait for carrier firmware releases.. And I'm glad I don't have that wait. The G9750 seems to be around 1.5 months ahead of the carrier releases here for the Exynos.
Ultimately the S10+ whether Exynos or SD855 is an awesome handset. Samsung did real good :good::good:

Ok nps
cheetah2k said:
If #benchmarklife is your thing, then each to their own, thats cool. I like to game and the Exynos game lag experience is real. Plus the Qualcomm 4G/wifi modems are the best in industry.
I also disagree on battery life, I've done a side by side comparisson with the Exynos and SD855 - using them the way I use a phone and my SOT was around 6hrs for the SD855 and under 5 for the Exynos. I would love to see your battery stats getting 8-9 hrs SOT, because, cough, it seems, cough, a little bull**** to be honest.. :laugh:
Here's a good comparison between the 2 handsets, I fail to see how the Exynos is better than the SD855 S10+. But thats ok. Im sure your own benchmarks show a different story :good:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review
For me, ultimately, the biggest issue with Exynos in Australia is that wait for carrier firmware releases.. And I'm glad I don't have that wait. The G9750 seems to be around 1.5 months ahead of the carrier releases here for the Exynos.
Ultimately the S10+ whether Exynos or SD855 is an awesome handset. Samsung did real good :good::good:
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Here you go smart ass enjoy your day