https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daziaRJbrKs#t=218
£500 should come with headphones! Good doesn't play fair.
I'm not sure where the video was taken, but the girl doing the unboxing is speaking Spanish, with an accent from Spain. Either way, the headphones are a nice addition. Too bad the US version doesn't come with that.
It's actually Spanish. Don't know about Spain/Catalonia, but certainly in France (where the plugs are the same as Spain), the law mandates that new phones come with some kind of hands-free device.
Even the Indian variant come with Motorola Earbuds in the box
They came with the Indian variant.. They retail for 20$ in the market..
Had to do with laws in some of those countries. Obligates headphones.
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Had to do with laws in some of those countries. Obligates headphones.
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Hmmm...headphones while driving is certainly not as bad as holding the phone. The deaf can drive. But it is not really optimal either, and mandating this is kind of like the government saying its OK to wear headphones when driving. (Assuming, of course, that curbing holding the phone to talk while driving is the aim of these laws).
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Hmmm...headphones while driving is certainly not as bad as holding the phone. The deaf can drive. But it is not really optimal either, and mandating this is kind of like the government saying its OK to wear headphones when driving. (Assuming, of course, that curbing holding the phone to talk while driving is the aim of these laws).
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I'm not sure what the thought behind it was. I'm guessing it's just to make sure you have both your hands on the wheel and improve focus on the road a bit. Being unable to hear isn't as big as a problem since people listen to music in their car as well.
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Hmmm...headphones while driving is certainly not as bad as holding the phone. The deaf can drive. But it is not really optimal either, and mandating this is kind of like the government saying its OK to wear headphones when driving. (Assuming, of course, that curbing holding the phone to talk while driving is the aim of these laws).
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I'm pretty sure they only expect you to wear one ear bud. Most of the headsets have the mic on one side, that's the side you wear, to make hands free calls. I believe it's illegal to wear both earbuds, while driving here in CA. But plenty of fools do it everyday.
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I had people asking me what kind of phone it is, or who made it, and I never heard of it. Some even question who is the provider and so on. A couple of time, I answered that it's not just a phone, it's a Pocket PC. Even then they don't know what Pocket PC is. They ask if it's Palm.
Of course, that's when I told them, it's more powerful, I can watch full 2 hours+ movie in this, browse the internet with IE. One person was so awe about this device, he's willing to pay premium for it and he works in a Cellphone place.
It really tickles me how I have to explain about this device and seeing their face changes as I explain the things I can do by showing them. It doesn't even look like a phone.
I want to hear what people say about the XDA II or similar device that's not available in the U.S. Maybe you guys wants to share? Or even places where XDA II or similar device isn't available in that country.
Yeah, that's been my experience too. It's even worse now with the XDA II and a Bluetooth headset. I guess I'm kinda used to it, since I had an Apple Newton since they were released. Handhelds just didn't exist at all then, so it was a real attention-grabber.
Even helped with dates. If a lady of appropriate specifications asked about how it worked, I'd pop open a "new contact" form and let her have a go. Usually I'd get a knowing smirk and a number.
If you think it's like that in the US, you would have fallen on the floor laughing if you were with me in Mexico when I tried to get a prepaid SIM for it. They were asking what phone it was for, and didn't understand "Pocket PC," so I pulled it out to show them. Well, I may as well have pulled a wiggling baby alien out of my pocket and thrust it at them, judging by their reaction and wide eyes.
Since I use my XDA for just about everything, I get questions from people in all facets of business. I've used it on-the-spot to check car ratings and comparitive prices while standing in front of the salesman. He was rather taken aback, as he lost his ability to bull**** me. I used it while looking for a house for a recent move. Got the agent hooked on the idea, she said she was going to buy one. I keep my shopping list on it and occasionally look up nutritional info while in the store (I'm diabetic, have to watch some things). Speaking of that, I track blood sugar vs. sugar intake, as well as other dietary info to help me understand my needs. Other people with dietary needs are amazed at how it simplifies life. I track the cars and motorcycle with it. TV shows. And on and on. It seems that no matter what I do, I'm using my XDA to do it, so it gets a lot of exposure.
In Washington DC where I'm going to school they sell the Siemens SX56 (xda I) and the MDA I and MDA II at TMobile... but yah generally people look at my phone and go wtf is that
They are obviously common in the UK then as noone seems to take a second look at it when i'm using mine,
I see at least 4 or 5 people every day with XDA2's on the train into london in the mornings and it not the same people either!,
most people seem to just hold it to their head to talk on it, but i think it much easier to use a bluetooth headset with it
tmobile and o2 are not present around here but the 2 mayor cellphone company offer the qtek series but mainly to companies
and orange sell their m1000 even see them in comercials but thats with tomtom and i doubt many people know it's a gsm phone aswell
suppose xda series are less known in us because they are not cma or 550Ghz
but mda3 / qtek9090 comes in both versions
I was looking for XDA II or something similar to it here in T-Mobile shop but come to a disppointed conclusion. There seem to be selling it on the East Coast rather than West Coast. T-Mobile specified they carry it, but when I looked for it, it's not available and the sales person were like, is that a phone? How come there's no antenna.
A couple of times when I took my phone out to make a phone call, people just look at it as a pda. Not until I got a phone call while doodling with it when they realize it's a phone too.
My co-worker was making fun of it saying, phones are getting smaller and here he is carrying a brick. Haha. So it's a multi-function brick, small phones can't do what this thing can do. I love it. Thanks for sharing guys. Great story.
nokias havent had antennas for ages
if they carry it on the other cost cant you just order it online rather then go to a shop where they would not know a pocketpc if it attacked and eate them and everybody they knew ?
recall when the first xda1 version i heard off came out which was the siemens 56 whatever it was only in the us and it took a few of months to reach here of cause maybe tmobile and o2 had them before i dont know
Found this on another board and thought it was worth sharing:
http://androidheadlines.com/2010/05/verizon-dumps-nexus-one-google.html
Does not look like any more phones are going to come directly from Google, however, I am still VERY happy with my Nexus One!!
Ill reserve my judegement for an official announcement, I dont see anything that indicates google is done with phones.
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Ill reserve my judegement for an official announcement, I dont see anything that indicates google is done with phones.
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They are definitely not done with phones. They will continue to develop the software, and might just pull out of the "hardware" business and leave that to HTC.
well the only thing confirmed in the article is that Verizon did not cancel the phone. Google did.
Rest is pure speculation of the blogger. If Google wanted to quit completely... why did they launch the at&t version?
Phones for verizon and Sprint (CDMA etc) are not as straight forward as for T-Mobile and At&T (GSM). The phones have to be locked to verizon and sprint.. they are always at the mercy of the provider. GSM are standard based and all you need is SIM card to move from one service to other. You are not tied to a carrier.
Anyways... I will avoid speculating further myself...There are just way too many things going on in the corporate world.
Just be assured... Google has shares in the market... they will have to release a press release and give good reason to cancel phone business as the phone business was in black. They can't cancel any profitable business without explaining it to investors.
The nexus one is profitable to google? At&t version shouldn't be too hard since it's gsm like T-Mobile. Maybe they just decided they don't want to make a cdma phone since gsm is the standard around the world anyway.
What google wants to do can't be done with the two biggest cell phone companies because it's a closed ecosystem.
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The nexus one is profitable to google? At&t version shouldn't be too hard since it's gsm like T-Mobile. Maybe they just decided they don't want to make a cdma phone since gsm is the standard around the world anyway.
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yes. Nexus One is profitable
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/feel-goodroid-nexus-one-is-in-the-black-60k-android-devices-ac/
Not one sentence of that is from a public/official source. Google on the other hand has said publicly that they are making money, they are happy with what they were getting out of it, they plan to stay in it for the long haul. Hmmmm.
I actually like that the nexus has poor sales.... Its a great phone than no one bought (mostly due to zero marketing and lack of tech support) so it gives it a sense of exclusivity. Usually to get such exclusivity you have to buy a crappy phone or a really overpriced one. and google is not hurting financially... this was more of a science project for them
Its quite different from when I had my iphone... I remember I would be out on a dinner and when the “apple ringtone” went off, 10 people would bust out their iphones, no people contantly ask me what phone i have
Google should have put a Beta tag on google.com/phone.
Then no one would have complained about the low sales and it would be clear that this is just them getting their feet wet.
Put it this way: the next phone Google sells on their website, you can be guaranteed that sales (and off-line advertising) will be much higher.
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Google should have put a Beta tag on google.com/phone.
Then no one would have complained about the low sales and it would be clear that this is just them getting their feet wet.
Put it this way: the next phone Google sells on their website, you can be guaranteed that sales (and off-line advertising) will be much higher.
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Yep, cant wait for Nexus Two.
omg, we are too exclusive now.
no one will have brand new google phone anymore.
I went to google.com/phone and I didn't see anything about this on there. Is this news offical? I'm 24 more days away from ordering my Nexus One and I was hoping to have it delivered to my house and such. Damn, I wanted to get my phone engraved too.
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I went to google.com/phone and I didn't see anything about this on there. Is this news offical? I'm 24 more days away from ordering my Nexus One and I was hoping to have it delivered to my house and such. Damn, I wanted to get my phone engraved too.
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it's official http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681634
I still don't see a timetable in either of those two links. It might be better if I went over to t-mobile store and picked one up.. that way I could see if "dust is under the screen" or some sorta damage on it... idk..
Looks as though they will still sell it online and in stores and eventually they will do away with online all together.
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I still don't see a timetable in either of those two links. It might be better if I went over to t-mobile store and picked one up.. that way I could see if "dust is under the screen" or some sorta damage on it... idk..
Looks as though they will still sell it online and in stores and eventually they will do away with online all together.
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Yep they just "announced" it. No specific date on when they'r pulling the plug on the online store.
I said before launch...I hope its a phone that everyone wants but few have.
Few have it..it IS unique...but noone knows wth it is and just assume its some stupid iphone.
Only cel store folks have had any clue of what it is.
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I said before launch...I hope its a phone that everyone wants but few have.
Few have it..it IS unique...but noone knows wth it is and just assume its some stupid iphone.
Only cel store folks have had any clue of what it is.
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yup, this is actually a selling point for me
People really care about having a "special" phone?
roofles.
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People really care about having a "special" phone?
roofles.
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Im assuming you wear fruit of the loom shirts , lee jeans , walmart sneakers ,no belt , a blank cap , drive a GM vehicle , and use plain black stock headphones.
Some people like to things because they are unique. Some people dont enjoy looking or using the same exact thing or way that everyone else does.
IT SUCKS! It has horrible static. Im sure its not the phone...
Anyone notice this? or did I get a bad headset.
Have not tried mine. Was going to today.
I was going to try and return it for store credit cause I really wont use it.
Let me know what happens when you try it.
Im curious to know.
I think mine glitched up on me already. The blue light is solid and hasn't turned off for over a day now. I can't connect, pair, or turn it off.
You get what you pay for. Of course they aren't going to give out Jawbones or even Jabras.
Mine was crap too. But hey at least it was free.
What I wanna know is did your bb offer you the sweet sweet con of your already free bluetooth, a zaag screen (only screen) and car charger (off brand) for 40 dollars- only available for that price to the pre-orders, originally 90. Gimme a break- and sadly people were jumping at it left and right.
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Mine was crap too. But hey at least it was free.
What I wanna know is did your bb offer you the sweet sweet con of your already free bluetooth, a zaag screen (only screen) and car charger (off brand) for 40 dollars- only available for that price to the pre-orders, originally 90. Gimme a break- and sadly people were jumping at it left and right.
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No other offers...however, I would be pissed if I paid $40 for that piece of **** headset
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Mine was crap too. But hey at least it was free.
What I wanna know is did your bb offer you the sweet sweet con of your already free bluetooth, a zaag screen (only screen) and car charger (off brand) for 40 dollars- only available for that price to the pre-orders, originally 90. Gimme a break- and sadly people were jumping at it left and right.
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I got that deal, but with a case included, for $30.
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IT SUCKS! It has horrible static. Im sure its not the phone...
Anyone notice this? or did I get a bad headset.
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it was free STOP *****ing
yup i didnt even pre order and they gave it to me for free.
Sporkman said:
it was free STOP *****ing
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Im ALLOWED to ***** when they wont let me substitute! Although Im glad to posted in here just to be make a smart comment! Thanks for the contribution
HOWEVER, the reason i asked, is because if noone else had this problem, i was going to return it for another
I tried to return it for something else since I don't need another BT headset and they wouldn't do it. First, they only take returns with receipts. My receipt showed it was a free promotional item and since I didn't pay for it they wouldn't exchange it for a different item. However, if yours doesn't work I would expect an exchange for a direct replacement shouldn't be difficult.
My BB gave us 2 Plantronix BT headsets and they work amazingly great.. I had sworn off BT after trying it a few years ago.
This free, cheapy headset sounds better than the phone's output. I just followed instructions for pairing. No problem..
The headset I got from bestbuy came with a charger that fits in my evo. Great to have at work.
Hey there guys,
A long long time since I've been on the Samsung side of things, however I have a question/need advice. < That's why it's filed here and not under 'Question' because I believe this info to also be general too :victory:
Anyway it's my Dads birthday in a few days and I was just wondering what Bluetooth headset do you recommend, what works best with the GNII? It needs to be simple, as my Dad isn't exactly the most technical person in the world, and I wasn't really looking to spend more than £50. Also could anyone reccomend any in-car holders?
Might just buy a new car with Bluetooth built in :highfive:
Thanks guys
I've owned dozens of them over the years, and here are my 2 picks, mono, and stereo
mono-- bose bt2.....most expensive, but nothing even comes close for sound and comfort
stereo- Jaybird Blubuds---fantastic fit, and awesom sound, stays put even during workouts..
always check around for lowest pricing, and, most stores will match online retailers pricing..
Good luck deciding!
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/22/nokia-preliminary-injunction-against-htc-one-mic/
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Wow, you started a thread just to post a link? Nice.
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Wow, you started a thread just to post a link? And in the DEV SECTION?!?!
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Dev sec? Pretty sure I posted in general.
Had your medication yet?
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the ban is only in the Netherlands for now, meanwhile HTC will seek another supplier
but yes those mics are gold
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Dev sec? Pretty sure I posted in general.
Had your medication yet?
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there is lots of people here who think they are the owners of the website... is becoming really annoying ..... you can open as much threads as you want to, if he doesnt like it,he doesnt have to comment or reply ...... Thanks for the info btw
bummer about the mic situation. all i have to say is the current mic records audio quite well. i put it to the test to record some video footage with high spl levels at a race over the weekend and it did very well. zero distortion/clipping with good range. hopefully if a replacement is needed, it's at least as good as the existing mic.
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bummer about the mic situation. all i have to say is the current mic records audio quite well. i put it to the test to record some video footage with high spl levels at a race over the weekend and it did very well. zero distortion/clipping with good range. hopefully if a replacement is needed, it's at least as good as the existing mic.
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Exactly. HTC did a better job with these drivers than nokia did. Nokias recordings were too soft, as though its been through too much compression
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the ban is only in the Netherlands for now, meanwhile HTC will seek another supplier
but yes those mics are gold
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Apologies for the cross-post, but I can't bear to let inaccurate information stand.
If you check the original post on Reuters (which I think may have been updated recently) you'll find this ban is global, it's not restricted to the Netherlands.
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[Nokia] said the injunction was effective until March 2014 and would prevent ST Micro from selling the components to Taiwan's HTC globally.
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This is so sad for us who haven't ordered our phones yet...:crying:
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Apologies for the cross-post, but I can't bear to let inaccurate information stand.
If you check the original post on Reuters (which I think may have been updated recently) you'll find this ban is global, it's not restricted to the Netherlands.
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its ban on supplies so it will affect the One stocks, but its not golbal ban on the units already made
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check this...
Nokia's co-developed high-amplitude mics retain 10-month exclusivity, HTC has to look elsewhere
Nokia's injunction yesterday has now been made a little more concrete. The Amsterdam district court has apparently handing down a 10-month ban on STMicroelectronics selling its high-amplitude mics to anyone other than the Finnish phone maker. The same dual-membrane microphone is used in both the Lumia 720 and the HTC One, but Nokia (which co-developed and designed the component) had signed a 12-month exclusivity deal with the chipmaker -- a deal that STMicroelectronics apparently though was only six months long.
According to All About Phones NL, the ruling won't halt sales of One devices, with the court stating that HTC was "blameless" and that it couldn't have know about the contract between Nokia and STMicroelectronics. In short, you'll still be able to buy HTC's flagship in the Netherlands with those dual high-amp mics in tow. We've reached out to HTC and Nokia for comment, but it's shaping up to be another supply woe for HTC's new smartphone.
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here is HTC response from this article (translated)
"Although HTC limited party to this issue we regret the decision. Currently, we are in agreement with STM and look at whether it is necessary to look for alternative solutions. Meanwhile, we do not expect that this decision has a direct impact on the sale of our phones. "
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Hah! Early early adopters FTW. :good:
They usually order in big numbers well in advance. The question now is how many they got in advance to be able to supply current HTC ONE orders... If they already received 500K of them or so we should still be good for now.
Grrr, dammit. Still waiting on my order from 9th April...pleeeeeeeease please please let it be an unmodified model, as HTC intended...
Feel bad for HTC, they just keep taking hits when they should be able to just enjoy the success of designing a really great Android phone. Here's hoping it doesn't affect them too adversely - it would be such a shame to have one less competitor in the smartphone race.
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They usually order in big numbers well in advance. The question now is how many they got in advance to be able to supply current HTC ONE orders... If they already received 500K of them or so we should still be good for now.
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It is more than that. Now that they know the chip is the intellectual property of Nokia, I think they may be legally liable if they continue to manufacture the One with that chip. They can ship what they have, but I think they will have to replace that chip before they manufacture any more of them - anywhere, for any market. For them to use the chip in new construction, I think they are opening themselves to lawsuits from Nokia.
I'm not a lawyer, much less an international lawyer, but this makes sense to me. They will ship what they have, but will need to change the design before they build more.
If you read into the story quite deeply, ban is in Netherlands at the moment, will not go further, It will eventually be allowed in Netherlands again, HTC Is not at fault here, They do not have to find a new supplier, the supplier has to change the part slightly, Nokia went a little over the top to be hinest, Its a MIC! Not like they copied the Whole design of the Lumia and software now is it!
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If you read into the story quite deeply, ban is in Netherlands at the moment, will not go further, It will eventually be allowed in Netherlands again, HTC Is not at fault here, They do not have to find a new supplier, the supplier has to change the part slightly, Nokia went a little over the top to be hinest, Its a MIC! Not like they copied the Whole design of the Lumia and software now is it!
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The court's decision prevents the microphone from being sold to anyone else other than Nokia, he said. "This has immediate effect and is global in scope, not just in the Netherlands," Young said via email. STMicroelectronics is headquartered in Geneva, but its holding company is registered in Amsterdam.http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...phones_for_HTC_One?taxonomyId=15&pageNumber=1
Nokia does hold a U.S. patent on the microphone which the Netherlands court said doesn't apply in the EU. So expect Nokia to seek an immediate injunction against the sale of the One (because it houses a patent offending component) in the U.S. shortly.
A claim for 'recall' of microphones already delivered however rejected because Nokia itself (in Europe) can not rely on a patent, which is currently only granted in the United States.
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The court's decision prevents the microphone from being sold to anyone else other than Nokia, he said. "This has immediate effect and is global in scope, not just in the Netherlands," Young said via email. STMicroelectronics is headquartered in Geneva, but its holding company is registered in Amsterdam.http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...phones_for_HTC_One?taxonomyId=15&pageNumber=1
Nokia does hold a U.S. patent on the microphone which the Netherlands court said doesn't apply in the EU. So expect Nokia to seek an immediate injunction against the sale of the One (because it houses a patent offending component) in the U.S. shortly.
A claim for 'recall' of microphones already delivered however rejected because Nokia itself (in Europe) can not rely on a patent, which is currently only granted in the United States.
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Thanks, that is my reading as well. I really do think they are going to have to halt production until the new part is supplied.
I'd be more than willing to compensate the lose of dual membrane mic for a 6Ultrapixel camera Or a microsd slot
This is making my decision tougher. I have a online order on back order (after t mobile effed up my original order) mainly because I want the car dock. However it is delayed further will I get this mic which has clearly improved audio recording quality or a new mic which may not be so good?
So then do I get it from retail store tomorrow which more than likely has this mic but no car dock with it?
It would have all been so much simpler if the original order wasn't cancelled by tmobile.
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This is making my decision tougher. I have a online order on back order (after t mobile effed up my original order) mainly because I want the car dock. However it is delayed further will I get this mic which has clearly improved audio recording quality or a new mic which may not be so good?
So then do I get it from retail store tomorrow which more than likely has this mic but no car dock with it?
It would have all been so much simpler if the original order wasn't cancelled by tmobile.
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HTC's target output is 2MM a month. They ran 500K in March and will hit 1.5MM this month and expect to hit full production in May. The mic is on the daughter board which is a major assembly component so I'd imagine they'd have no less than two weeks’ worth and no more than six weeks’ worth which is the typical stock on hand rate for an important component. So that means they'd be able to build 1MM to 3MM more One's before they run out of components. During that time they'd obviously be working on getting a "Plan B" implemented. It took them about four weeks to get the Wi-Fi h/w fix in place for the One X last year so I wouldn't expect the mic replacement to be done any faster. So whether there are stock shortages all depends on how many daughter boards HTC has on hand and if they can implement a new mic in less time than it takes for them to deplete their existing parts with the offending mic on it.
The biggest issue for the U.S. is the potential for an import ban and/or stop-sale. Unlike the EU, Nokia has a patent on the mic here in the U.S. A patent violation is handled by the ITC not the civil courts like an exclusivity violation would be. The ITC are the ones that issued a ban on the One X last year when Apple filed a complaint about the "app-picker" s/w. And unlike civil court, how the patent violating part came to be imported or used is irrelevant so HTC won't be held "blameless" like they were in the EU. The offending part will be banned and it's unfortunate that it's attached to an HTC phone.