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[Q] rom manager doesnt backup or flashes...?

i have a mytouch 4g and im new to the forums and roms but i followed every instruction down to the letter but when i go to backup rom on the rom manager the phone just reboot and i see a phone with a exclamation mark....? help please and thank you

Flash clockwork first. You can do that in Rom manager - first option
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rawdawgroy said:
i have a mytouch 4g and im new to the forums and roms but i followed every instruction down to the letter but when i go to backup rom on the rom manager the phone just reboot and i see a phone with a exclamation mark....? help please and thank you
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That means you haven't installed ClockworkMod recovery yet. First flash that via ROM Manager, and then attempt to make a backup again. I recommend doing it the manual way by booting into recovery mode, rather than by doing it through the ROM Manager app.

TeeJay3800 said:
That means you haven't installed ClockworkMod recovery yet. First flash that via ROM Manager, and then attempt to make a backup again. I recommend doing it the manual way by booting into recovery mode, rather than by doing it through the ROM Manager app.
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I was getting ready to say the same thing.

I got the clockworkmod recovery the phone doesnt let me do anything with out it and it shows up on my memory card when I try to back up it just goes to the screen with the big red exclamation point and when I try manually only the phone stock recovery comes up not clockworkmod....?

rawdawgroy said:
I got the clockworkmod recovery the phone doesnt let me do anything with out it and it shows up on my memory card when I try to back up it just goes to the screen with the big red exclamation point and when I try manually only the phone stock recovery comes up not clockworkmod....?
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are you rooted,if not you need to root it first

yea temp root and ive rooted everytime the phone reboots it wont let me use the app unless ive rooted the device

rawdawgroy said:
yea temp root and ive rooted everytime the phone reboots it wont let me use the app unless ive rooted the device
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Receptionist : the doctor will see you now mr rawdagroy
doctor:
Well Mr RawDog it Sounds like a good case of the "didntreadeverything".
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While you did root your phone you must turn off the security protocol. That is why we are mentioning s-off/s-on. IF you look in the development section you will see thread after thread after thread on how to do just that. Simply running VISIONary will not root your phone to the degree that you need. You must turn off that security protocol. If you don't everytime you reboot your phone it's going back to a OE fashion and losing Root Access, and losing the recovery image since the phone is flashing the stock recovery image again.

but thats what im sayin ive even had z4root and visionary but i only temp root not perm do i have to perm root to get this to work...? also ive re-rooted my phone everytime i rebooted cause i know that temp goes away after.... HELP PLEASE

rawdawgroy said:
but thats what im sayin ive even had z4root and visionary but i only temp root not perm do i have to perm root to get this to work...? also ive re-rooted my phone everytime i rebooted cause i know that temp goes away after.... HELP PLEASE
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read my signature in this post. Or in my post above. I have two links on how to turn s-off. VISIONary.apk and Z4 will not turn off your security protocol.

also do i need sdk or adb to flash a rom on my phone....????

rawdawgroy said:
also do i need sdk or adb to flash a rom on my phone....????
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NEED ? No.
HIGHLY ENCOURAGE Yes.

ok i followed your instructions down to the letter and when i put # cd/sdcard/root it say not found on card .....???

rawdawgroy said:
ok i followed your instructions down to the letter and when i put # cd/sdcard/root is say sd card not found .....???
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its cd /sdcard/root not cd/sdcard/root make sure you hit the space bar between cd and /

Here is a good how to on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo

and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???

rawdawgroy said:
and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???
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when i rooted i didn't use that method i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 also watched this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo and had no issues. Sorry i can't help with that method

rawdawgroy said:
and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???
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you need to boot into hBoot and look at the top line for s-on or s-off. If s-off just boot the phone normally and click on Temp root, then perma root and your done.

WOLF26915 said:
when i rooted i didn't use that method i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 also watched this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo and had no issues. Sorry i can't help with that method
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is this a perm root or temp i ask cause i am really tired of rooting after every boot...

rawdawgroy said:
is this a perm root or temp i ask cause i am really tired of rooting after every boot...
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yes this is perm root

buying a new razr m to root?

I'm entirely new to anything phone/development related so I apologize for my ignorance (I also apologize if this is in the wrong section). I've had a razr M for about 2 years now and I'm entirely content with it except after the last update I can no longer use my foxfi for wifi access. From what I understand I can't root my phone and downgrade from this operating system so my question is this: Can I buy a new one off ebay for ~$100, root it and use foxfi (or some other free wifi tether) while keeping my unlimited data and not "bricking" it? The battery on my current phone has gone to crap anyways and I was considering buying a replacement phone considering they're only ~$100 anyways.
It's a pain in the but trying to figure all of this out with only limited time to browse the internet at work and trying to sort the 100's of pages of info from my phone.
Is this feasible? Are there certain things I need to verify about a phone before I buy it to make sure I can complete this process?
Thanks in advance,
Rory

If you're on the latest firmware, you CAN root with Towel Root and unlock with Motopocalypse. Then you can downgrade back to JB. There's a method posted by @bweN diorD somewhere in this forum.
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RikRong said:
If you're on the latest firmware, you CAN root with Towel Root and unlock with Motopocalypse. Then you can downgrade back to JB. There's a method posted by @bweN diorD somewhere in this forum.
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Thanks RikRong! How do I know if I'm on the latest firmware (does that just mean the latest operating system? My phone says 4.4.2 so I'm assuming that's a yes)? Sorry, there's a thousand new terms and I'm struggling to take in what this all means.
When it comes to trying to root my phone, since I have no more foxfi I also don't have a way to have internet access on my computer/tablet to walk me through the rooting process/assist me if something goes wrong with the... would you think it's intuitive enough/fullproof that if I print out the thread I can just follow it through and shouldn't have issues? Also, I looked through the first 4 or 5 pages in this forum and didn't find any threads started by "bweN dior" but I'm probably just overlooking what I'm looking for. Do you know what the thread was titled?
Thanks,
Rory

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Install .apk and run
Profit
Don't forget to thank geohot

rypkr937 said:
Thanks RikRong! How do I know if I'm on the latest firmware (does that just mean the latest operating system? My phone says 4.4.2 so I'm assuming that's a yes)? Sorry, there's a thousand new terms and I'm struggling to take in what this all means.
When it comes to trying to root my phone, since I have no more foxfi I also don't have a way to have internet access on my computer/tablet to walk me through the rooting process/assist me if something goes wrong with the... would you think it's intuitive enough/fullproof that if I print out the thread I can just follow it through and shouldn't have issues? Also, I looked through the first 4 or 5 pages in this forum and didn't find any threads started by "bweN dior" but I'm probably just overlooking what I'm looking for. Do you know what the thread was titled?
Thanks,
Rory
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actually, i didnt make a guide for this model. i made it for the hd/maxx hd. the root and bootloader unlock is the same and you can use those files, but you can NOT use any of the phone specific software in the guide or you will likely brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789743

bweN diorD said:
actually, i didnt make a guide for this model. i made it for the hd/maxx hd. the root and bootloader unlock is the same and you can use those files, but you can NOT use any of the phone specific software in the guide or you will likely brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789743
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Yeah, I saw that it was someone else that made the guide for the M, but I like how yours is set-up. I was going to point him to your thread in the HD forum for rooting and unlocking, then refer him to guide in the M forum for downgrading. Use Bwen's guide to use Towel Root and Motopocalypse. Get TWRP from here: http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img and flash a SU zip to gain permanent root. Then use this guide to downgrade: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786016 .

RikRong said:
Yeah, I saw that it was someone else that made the guide for the M, but I like how yours is set-up. I was going to point him to your thread in the HD forum for rooting and unlocking, then refer him to guide in the M forum for downgrading. Use Bwen's guide to use Towel Root and Motopocalypse. Get TWRP from here: http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img and flash a SU zip to gain permanent root. Then use this guide to downgrade: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786016 .
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Okay, I'm trying to start this process. From my droid, I downloaded http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img but immediately I'm encountering problems. My phone says it cannot open this file. I'm already dreading this is going to be difficult/dangerous...
Why can't I open this file? Also, what is flashing a SU zip?

There is far too much about this I don't understand.
I am willing to pay someone to root a razr m for me. Do I have any takers?

Towel Root and Motopocalypse are both apps that you can download to the phone and then run. They're just apps, so they are as easy as opening the app then running. You need to use Towel Root, then Motopocalypse to unlock, and then you can install TWRP. If you don't want to use fastboot to install recovery, then you can flash it with Rashr or Flashify. Just download TWRP and place on your external SD, no need to open or extract it. Flash it with one of those apps. Once you're rooted and unlocked, you should be able to use that guide to downgrade.
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rypkr937 said:
Okay, I'm trying to start this process. From my droid, I downloaded http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img but immediately I'm encountering problems. My phone says it cannot open this file. I'm already dreading this is going to be difficult/dangerous...
Why can't I open this file? Also, what is flashing a SU zip?
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just use the tutorial i posted before as a guide, substituting the files @RikRong gave you for the recoveries.
i just updated the guide to include a complete step by step for flashing the recoveries and su zip.
the only thing you will need is fastboot and adb in the same folder with your recovery file.
the guide instructs to use adb and fastboot from my script, but you wont have my script. thats why you need to grab adb and fastboot from google.
its not difficult, you just dont understand what needs to be done. you dont open the recovery with the phone booted up. just read the guide and subsequent link to the step by step and you will quickly see where you are going wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789743
just a quick disclaimer for those not following along, ^^^^^ the firmware and recoveries in this guide are for the 926 only!!! use it for reference only!! any other files in the guide and the guide itself, is universal.

rypkr937 said:
There is far too much about this I don't understand.
I am willing to pay someone to root a razr m for me. Do I have any takers?
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Please refer to this thread > http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-m/general/guide-faq-how-to-root-boot-unlock-t2869432

Now I think I got problems. I thought I had it all figured out with all of the walkthroughs. I have the phone in fastboot mode and I was flashing it with RSD for the previous firmware. It was going through the steps and on 7/20 it said failed flash. I tried again and now it says failed flash after 1/20. I'm afraid to try and boot the phone. What should I do?

rypkr937 said:
Now I think I got problems. I thought I had it all figured out with all of the walkthroughs. I have the phone in fastboot mode and I was flashing it with RSD for the previous firmware. It was going through the steps and on 7/20 it said failed flash. I tried again and now it says failed flash after 1/20. I'm afraid to try and boot the phone. What should I do?
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If your boot loader isn't unlocked, you can't flash older FW. Did you unlock already?
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rypkr937 said:
Now I think I got problems. I thought I had it all figured out with all of the walkthroughs. I have the phone in fastboot mode and I was flashing it with RSD for the previous firmware. It was going through the steps and on 7/20 it said failed flash. I tried again and now it says failed flash after 1/20. I'm afraid to try and boot the phone. What should I do?
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It says USB error. I unplugged it from the computer and tried it again. It's step 7/20 "flash modem "non-hlos.bin" where it is getting screwed up.

RikRong said:
If your boot loader isn't unlocked, you can't flash older FW. Did you unlock already?
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Yes. I think? I did these steps successfully
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2. BOOTLOADER UNLOCKING
-----------------------------------------•Download Towel Root [XDA] [WEBSITE] - Disregard if you have previously rooted using Towel Root
•Download Motopocalypse [WEBSITE] [DOWNLOAD]
•Place both on external SDcard
•Install and run Towel Root
•Follow any in-app prompts
•Reboot
•Install and run Motopocalypse
•Follow any in-app prompts
•Reboot
•PROFIT!
My error specifically says this:
Failed flashing process. 7/20 flash modem "non-hlos.bin" -> USB error occurred while reading/writing.

I unplugged it and tried another USB port and it went through all the steps 20/20. Then it rebooted my phone and the phone says "please wait, this may take a few minutes". After several minutes RSD told me to "manually power on the phone". Since the phone was never shut off I couldn't do this so I unplugged the USB and replugged it in thinking maybe there was another USB error. RSD has now finished and says result is "PASS". However my phone still says "please wait, this may take a few minutes". Should I let me phone be or should I restart it?

rypkr937 said:
I unplugged it and tried another USB port and it went through all the steps 20/20. Then it rebooted my phone and the phone says "please wait, this may take a few minutes". After several minutes RSD told me to "manually power on the phone". Since the phone was never shut off I couldn't do this so I unplugged the USB and replugged it in thinking maybe there was another USB error. RSD has now finished and says result is "PASS". However my phone still says "please wait, this may take a few minutes". Should I let me phone be or should I restart it?
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do the 3 button trick to get into flash mode and tell us what the status code is please.

bweN diorD said:
do the 3 button trick to get into flash mode and tell us what the status code is please.
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power + volume up + down rebooted me to a screen that asked me to select my language (just as before). After selecting English it goes back to the "please wait this make take a few minutes" screen.

It's working!!!! I just ran RSD again (and this from the start on a usb 2.0 port as I read 3.0 can screw it up). This time it worked like a charm! I'm back on jellybean and posting from my laptop through a foxfi connection from my phone! SO thankful for this and those who did the write ups/walk throughs and posted in here! I got a lot of apps and setting to update ahead of me ugh. I'm going to do some donating here for the help! Thanks to those who posted in this thread and the ones who made those write ups and the app developers!

How do I keep my phone from automatically updating back to KK?? I didn't let it update when KK originally came out (I just kept clicking postpone) until about a month or two later it just updated on it's own. Well my phone just started automatically downloading a system update again. I put it in airplane mode but how do I keep this update from happening again and getting screwed by KK again?

Problem with lg g2 VS98026a after ROOT - HELP

Hello guys, I just bought an LG G2 VS980 like 2 weeks ago and everything was working fine till yesterday, I decided to root the phone to do some tweaks to it and I found some problems that were not there before rooting.
The problems were.
-Slow charing
-Battery Draining.
First thing I did today in the morning was UNROOT the device because I thought the problems would be solved in that way, to my surprise they are still there!!
I tried to put back the stock rom but my phone can't enter into download mode, tried rooting and entering with TWRP and I can't root my phone with the same method again :crying::crying: stump root says "ERROR: Unsupported device" When it is at 13,000.
Is there any way I could go back to stock without using download mode or TWRP?
HEEELP!!!!
Thank you in advance guys, I know you guys work hard to build such a great and helpful community.

Josh3344 said:
Hello guys, I just bought an LG G2 VS980 like 2 weeks ago and everything was working fine till yesterday, I decided to root the phone to do some tweaks to it and I found some problems that were not there before rooting.
The problems were.
-Slow charing
-Battery Draining.
First thing I did today in the morning was UNROOT the device because I thought the problems would be solved in that way, to my surprise they are still there!!
I tried to put back the stock rom but my phone can't enter into download mode, tried rooting and entering with TWRP and I can't root my phone with the same method again :crying::crying: stump root says "ERROR: Unsupported device" When it is at 13,000.
Is there any way I could go back to stock without using download mode or TWRP?
HEEELP!!!!
Thank you in advance guys, I know you guys work hard to build such a great and helpful community.
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u can try flash a another rom. for example cloudy that it's very good rom and has a great battery

Rotondo said:
u can try flash a another rom. for example cloudy that it's very good rom and has a great battery
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But you need to be root to do that right? Because I CAN'T root stump root is telling me that my device is unsupported, maybe SuperSU did not fully uninstall.

Josh3344 said:
But you need to be root to do that right? Because I CAN'T root stump root is telling me that my device is unsupported, maybe SuperSU did not fully uninstall.
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Have you tried downloading and running AutoRec instead of StumpRoot? StumpRoot roots your device but doesn't install TWRP. AutoRec will downgrade your bootloader to Jelly Bean and will install TWRP as a custom recovery.

d00lz said:
Have you tried AutoRec instead of StumpRoot? StumpRoot roots your device but doesn't install TWRP. AutoRec will downgrade your bootloader to Jelly Bean and will install TWRP as a custom recovery.
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Will AutoRec work even if I am not rooted? I read that I have to grant permissions, so...

Josh3344 said:
Will AutoRec work even if I am not rooted? I read that I have to grant permissions, so...
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Sorry I misread your initial situation. Yes, AutoRec will need to be given elevated privileges and will need to be run after using IORoot25. Have you tried IORoot25 before?

d00lz said:
Sorry I misread your initial situation. Yes, AutoRec will need to be given elevated privileges and will need to be run after using IORoot25. Have you tried IORoot25 before?
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Thank you but still no luck with IOroot25, it says I have 4.4.2 (which is true) so it means it is an unsupported version.
Don't know what to do :crying:

Josh3344 said:
Thank you but still no luck with IOroot25, it says I have 4.4.2 (which is true) so it means it is an unsupported version.
Don't know what to do :crying:
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Just to get some more information from you..
Josh3344 said:
First thing I did today in the morning was UNROOT the device because I thought the problems would be solved in that way, to my surprise they are still there!!
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How did you exactly go about unrooting your device? Did you use the Full UnRoot option in SuperSU? If so, this post may enlighten you.
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I decided to root the phone to do some tweaks to it
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What tweaks did you do to your phone before all this happened? It sounds like some of your partitions are corrupt.

d00lz said:
Just to get some more information from you..
How did you exactly go about unrooting your device? Did you use the Full UnRoot option in SuperSU? If so, this post may enlighten you.
What tweaks did you do to your phone before all this happened? It sounds like some of your partitions are corrupt.
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I am not able to enter into download mode so I can't use the flash tool, I supposed that I am stuck in this point and there's nothing I could do
And what I was trying to do with my phone was just trying to hide my buttons that sometimes bother me when watching videos, that's all I wanted to do with root but now I will be forever using Android 4.4.2 26a :'(
And wow d00lz thank you I really appreciate your help.

Josh3344 said:
I am not able to enter into download mode so I can't use the flash tool, I supposed that I am stuck in this point and there's nothing I could do
And what I was trying to do with my phone was just trying to hide my buttons that sometimes bother me when watching videos, that's all I wanted to do with root but now I will be forever using Android 4.4.2 26a :'(
And wow d00lz thank you I really appreciate your help.
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That's alright I'm just trying to help and figure out your situation a little bit more. You still didn't answer my question though, in regards to this post from you,
Josh3344 said:
First thing I did today in the morning was UNROOT the device because I thought the problems would be solved in that way, to my surprise they are still there!!
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How did you UNROOT the device ?

d00lz said:
That's alright I'm just trying to help and figure out your situation a little bit more. You still didn't answer my question though, in regards to this post from you,
How did you UNROOT the device ?
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Oh sorry, I unrooted with the SuperSU option to unroot.

SOLVED
All I needed was to get into download mode, the problem was a combination of usb port + cable. Both my laptop and my desktop only have 3.0 usb ports, but I found a couple of 2.0 ports at the back of the case (the ones that come with the mobo), when I tried with those ports it inmediately entered into download mode .
Now I am using official lollipop (manual OTA) without root
Thank you for all your help d00lz

[Q] N4 root 5.1.1

Hey guys, i've been looking at some different guides and ill be trying to root my N4 running 5.1.1 using that, just wanted to make sure it's legit:
ive installed the adb drivers from the 15 sec installer found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
and root it using this guide: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-root-nexus-5-4-android-5-1-1-lollipop-install-cwm-recovery-1502856 (except ill be using twrp not cwm)
(backed up apps and messages using helium app, assuming this process will wipe my data)
just wanted to make sure if this way is legit, or i may have missed something (i assume my bootloader is locked)

Pingas12 said:
Hey guys, i've been looking at some different guides and ill be trying to root my N4 running 5.1.1 using that, just wanted to make sure it's legit:
ive installed the adb drivers from the 15 sec installer found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
and root it using this guide: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-root-nexus-5-4-android-5-1-1-lollipop-install-cwm-recovery-1502856 (except ill be using twrp not cwm)
(backed up apps and messages using helium app, assuming this process will wipe my data)
just wanted to make sure if this way is legit, or i may have missed something (i assume my bootloader is locked)
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That looks good, just make sure you understand that in the when you flash the recovery the command is "fastboot flash recovery *the file name of your recovery file*" make sure to include the .img in the file name.
EDIT: Make sure to remember to unlock your bootloader before flashing the recovery by using the command "fastboot oem unlock" after booting into the bootloader.

theminikiller said:
That looks good, just make sure you understand that in the when you flash the recovery the command is "fastboot flash recovery *the file name of your recovery file*" make sure to include the .img in the file name.
EDIT: Make sure to remember to unlock your bootloader before flashing the recovery by using the command "fastboot oem unlock" after booting into the bootloader.
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Thanks alot man! Is there a way to make sure my bootloader is locked (or unlocked)?
Is it going to wipe my data?

Pingas12 said:
Thanks alot man! Is there a way to make sure my bootloader is locked (or unlocked)?
Is it going to wipe my data?
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I don't know of any way to check if the unlock was successful, but I imagine it would say something in the command prompt after running the command.
Yes, it is going to wipe your data and sdcard folder so anything you want to keep you have to make a backup of on your computer or somewhere else.
EDIT: BTW this guide goes over the process in alot more detail than the guide you found and are using, so if you're still unsure about the process this guide will probably help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/guide-ultimate-nexus-4-root-guide-t2018179

theminikiller said:
I don't know of any way to check if the unlock was successful, but I imagine it would say something in the command prompt after running the command.
Yes, it is going to wipe your data and sdcard folder so anything you want to keep you have to make a backup of on your computer or somewhere else.
EDIT: BTW this guide goes over the process in alot more detail than the guide you found and are using, so if you're still unsure about the process this guide will probably help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/guide-ultimate-nexus-4-root-guide-t2018179
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First of all, Thanks! again!
Second, i've seen this guide, and even though you are probably right, it still refers to older versions of android and im a bit skeptical about using it. Plus, it shows a way of unlocking and rooting without losing data but i don't want to use it because it's not the "normal" way and im not sure if it will work.
and one more thing: flashing the recovery means i will have it as long as i want or each time i would want to use it i will have to flash it again?

Pingas12 said:
First of all, Thanks! again!
Second, i've seen this guide, and even though you are probably right, it still refers to older versions of android and im a bit skeptical about using it. Plus, it shows a way of unlocking and rooting without losing data but i don't want to use it because it's not the "normal" way and im not sure if it will work.
and one more thing: flashing the recovery means i will have it as long as i want or each time i would want to use it i will have to flash it again?
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In the guide I linked it gives you a way to make it permanent. If you don't do that I think you have to reflash the recovery after every time you boot into the normal ROM.

theminikiller said:
In the guide I linked it gives you a way to make it permanent. If you don't do that I think you have to reflash the recovery after every time you boot into the normal ROM.
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Got it! does some of the ways apply to twrp as well?

Pingas12 said:
Got it! does some of the ways apply to twrp as well?
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If you use either the file explorer method or the adb method just do the exact same thing.

theminikiller said:
If you use either the file explorer method or the adb method just do the exact same thing.
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Man, you helped me alot. i'll do the rooting process later today (just got home) I really appreciate your help.

Pingas12 said:
Man, you helped me alot. i'll do the rooting process later today (just got home) I really appreciate your help.
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How did it go?

it shows a way of unlocking and rooting without losing data

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How did it go?
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It went great! today ill be busy restoring old data, already worked with whatsapp but for some reason the helium app cant find the backup files and it assumes there is no backup

Pingas12 said:
It went great! today ill be busy restoring old data, already worked with whatsapp but for some reason the helium app cant find the backup files and it assumes there is no backup
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Great! Congratulations! Unfortunately I've never used helium so I don't know anything about that, I've always used titanium.

Safe System Updates_6.0.1 MM_FlashFire, dm-verity work around, SM-N910V

This is too complicated for me to explain everything but here is my Cheat Sheet !
If you have been flashing you probably already have these files.
1. Odin SamMobile N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVZW2BPA1_N910VVRU2BPA1_HOME.tar
reboot and factory reset a few times if needed to remove custom icon, Block SDM
2. Odin hsbadr's N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVRU2CPD1_FullFirmware.tar HERE
3. Unlock with the samsung_unlock_n4-fix PROCESS use SIM card for data. Wi-Fi will not work at this point.
4. Odin twrp-3.0.2-0-trltevzw.tar Uncheck Auto Reboot, Manually boot into TWRP
5. Odin hsbadr's N910VVRU2CPD1_StockRestore.tar HERE
6. TWRP BETA-SuperSU-v2.71-20160331103524, Factory Reset, boot system
7. Use FlashFire to Flash firmware package SamMobile N910VVRU2CPD1_N910VVZW2CPD1_N910VVRU2CPD1_HOME.tar
( ! System and Cache only ! ) Unblock SDM
8. Now with FlashFire installed and Granted SU Access, Check for new system updates in Phone Setting.
It could start downloading automatically or it may not download for hours. I have tested both scenarios
9. When Updates finishes downloading open FlashFire to install the update.
I got the Build update MMB29M.N910VVRU2CPF3 over the air.
Your mileage may vary.
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EDIT: I was able to skip the recommended rooting of 5.1.1
I did not do the unlock using Kingroot until step 3 and I did not permanent root with Super Su until step 6.
No matter how you get there the phone has to be on[Firmware] [MM] [6.0.1] [RetEd/DevEd] Safe Upgrade to Marshmallow [N910VVRU2CPD1]then you can use FlashFire.
EDIT: You have to do step 7 manually with N910VVRU2CPD1_N910VVZW2CPD1_N910VVRU2CPD1_HOME.tar manually download to your phone. Automatic updates start after step 8 with SDM unblocked.
Credit AstonsAndroid I found it HERE

Reserved
FlashFire
Many of the problems we have been having with the Safe Upgrade to Marshmallow are not present with the FlashFire System Flash.

Interesting, may have to give this a spin at some point. This fixes the issue of DM-Verity, produces a clean EFS folder to go along with Root/unlocked bootloader when the steps are finished?

It's true, I tried this awhile back when doctor-cool posted this in one of the theads in the development forums. I was experiencing an inability to send MMS messages, the "Roam Indicator" message and missing the Applications option in the Setting menu. After reflashing CPD1 through FlashFire, it fixed everything. Flashed the CPF3 update through FlashFire as well and am currently up to date.

doctor-cool said:
This is too complicated for me to explain everything but here is my Cheat Sheet !
If you have been flashing you probably already have these files.
1. Odin SamMobile N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVZW2BPA1_N910VVRU2BPA1_HOME.tar
reboot and factory reset a few times if needed to remove custom icon
2. Odin hsbadr's N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVRU2CPD1_FullFirmware.tar HERE
3. Unlock with adb , samsung_unlock_n4-fix
4. Odin twrp-3.0.2-0-trltevzw.tar Uncheck Auto Reboot, Manually boot into TWRP then boot System
5. Odin hsbadr's N910VVRU2CPD1_StockRestore.tar HERE
6. TWRP BETA-SuperSU-v2.71-20160331103524, boot system
7. Use FlashFire to Flash firmware package SamMobile N910VVRU2CPD1_N910VVZW2CPD1_N910VVRU2CPD1_HOME.tar
( ! System and Cache only ! )
8. With FlashFire installed and Granted SU Access, Check for new system updates in Phone Setting.
It could download automatically.
9. When Updates finishes downloading open FlashFire to install the update.
I got the Build update MMB29M.N910VVRU2CPF3 over the air.
Your mileage may vary.
Credit AstonsAndroid I found it HERE
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So reading your instructions we don't worry about rooting (unlocking the bootloader) till step 3? I need to try this if I can because I suspect Kingroot and Kingoroot has screwed up my EFS folder. It's to the point that when I try to root again thru those 2 apps it locks up and throws me into a bootloop everytime. I'm really hoping to get my Note 4 back to normal operating but I'm to the point I think an XDA expert who had their hands on it would be my only hope. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated :fingers-crossed:

lorilucille9 said:
So reading your instructions we don't worry about rooting (unlocking the bootloader) till step 3? I need to try this if I can because I suspect Kingroot and Kingoroot has screwed up my EFS folder. It's to the point that when I try to root again thru those 2 apps it locks up and throws me into a bootloop everytime. I'm really hoping to get my Note 4 back to normal operating but I'm to the point I think an XDA expert who had their hands on it would be my only hope. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated :fingers-crossed:
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that's the way I did it

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that's the way I did it
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Well my problem is I'm stuck btw being rooted and not rooted. The phone says I am (phone state = custom) but any other app says I'm not. I try to root again thru Kingroot/Kingoroot and it fails both by APK and Desktop version. Reinstalling official LP still holds remnants over and it's not a clean install like everone thinks. I'm on my last nerve with this and all I want is to get my phone back to root so I can clean up the crap in efs folder or truly do a clean back to stock flash. Can accessing the phone to do this be done any other way?
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lorilucille9 said:
Well my problem is I'm stuck btw being rooted and not rooted. The phone says I am (phone state = custom) but any other app says I'm not. I try to root again thru Kingroot/Kingoroot and it fails both by APK and Desktop version. Reinstalling official LP still holds remnants over and it's not a clean install like everone thinks. I'm on my last nerve with this and all I want is to get my phone back to root so I can clean up the crap in efs folder or truly do a clean back to stock flash. Can accessing the phone to do this be done any other way?
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Try from within Phone Setting a Factory Reset after the first step

doctor-cool said:
Try from within Phone Setting a Factory Reset after the first step
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Several times I have... nothing wipes it completely clean. Does EFS folder get touched when flashing or Odining official firmware? I think that folder is my problem to it all.
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lorilucille9 said:
Several times I have... nothing wipes it completely clean. Does EFS folder get touched when flashing or Odining official firmware? I think that folder is my problem to it all.
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You absolutely could have corruption of the efs folder. The only way I personally know of to clean the efs folder is HERE.
But you need Root to do it.

doctor-cool said:
You absolutely could have corruption of the efs folder. The only way I personally know of to clean the efs folder is HERE.
But you need Root to do it.
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Everything worked though before I switched phones. I have a backup of my EFS folder via TWRP... is there any way to edit the backup so just the files that should be there are there then reinstall? Do you know anyone that would be willing and trusting to fix my phone if I sent it to them? I'd pay to get it fixed too!
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lorilucille9 said:
Everything worked though before I switched phones. I have a backup of my EFS folder via TWRP... is there any way to edit the backup so just the files that should be there are there then reinstall? Do you know anyone that would be willing and trusting to fix my phone if I sent it to them? I'd pay to get it fixed too!
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No Way, I would not try to edit that backup partition. It may end up unable to mount.
You're on the wrong thread. You need to establish a simple unlocked 5.1.1 bootloader.

doctor-cool said:
No Way, I would not try to edit that backup partition. It may end up unable to mount.
You're on the wrong thread. You need to establish a simple unlocked 5.1.1 bootloader.
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The backup is what I meant on editing and I'm on this thread because in the beginning you made it sound like I don't have to start from LP... I asked that... and was hoping this may be a different way to get my root back. Sorry!
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lorilucille9 said:
The backup is what I meant on editing and I'm on this thread because in the beginning you made it sound like I don't have to start from LP... I asked that... and was hoping this may be a different way to get my root back. Sorry!
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It's Okay good luck but I was able to skip the recommended rooting of 5.1.1
In this example, I did not unlock until step 3 and I did not permanent root until step 6.
The process I used to unlock is
HERE I just re-tested and the OP is valid.

Thanks for the detailed listing of downloads and links for instructions. To be clear, in both of the links you provided for instructions on unlocking your bootloader, the instructions say you need root (su) in order to run the samsung_unlock_n4-fix. However, you are saying that you were able to run it successfully without root (or at least without Kingroot)? Also, could you clarify what you mean by "use SIM card for data" in step 3 of the OP?

azumandias said:
Thanks for the detailed listing of downloads and links for instructions. To be clear, in both of the links you provided for instructions on unlocking your bootloader, the instructions say you need root (su) in order to run the samsung_unlock_n4-fix. However, you are saying that you were able to run it successfully without root (or at least without Kingroot)? Also, could you clarify what you mean by "use SIM card for data" in step 3 of the OP?
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Thanks, I should have said permanent root. You do have to use Kingroot to use the samsung_unlock_n4-fix but you don't have to install Super Su until step 6.
No matter how you get there the phone has to be on [Firmware] [MM] [6.0.1] [RetEd/DevEd] Safe Upgrade to Marshmallow [N910VVRU2CPD1] then you can use FlashFire.

I tryed to do flash fire only problem was I wasn't able to do anything. I hit the plus icon to search for it with no luck and it was there because I got the box asking to install now or later
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rmc198501 said:
I tryed to do flash fire only problem was I wasn't able to do anything. I hit the plus icon to search for it with no luck and it was there because I got the box asking to install now or later
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You have to do step 7 manually with N910VVRU2CPD1_N910VVZW2CPD1_N910VVRU2CPD1_HOME.tar manually download to your phone. Automatic updates start after step 8

I have been trying to root for days and I can not get anywhere. I'm doing something wrong but I don't know what it is. And trying to get help is like asking for a million bucks just ant gonna happen.
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mwebb34 said:
I have been trying to root for days and I can not get anywhere. I'm doing something wrong but I don't know what it is. And trying to get help is like asking for a million bucks just ant gonna happen.
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You could have a hardware problem even a bad usb cable