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{ROM}[Pure Gingerbread]OMGB 1.2.1{2.3.5}

OMGB = Pure Gingerbread AOSP. Minimal deviations from stock.
Current version 1.2.1 as of July 27
Check the thanks page for a full list of contributions.
This is for all you guys out there who want their phone slim, sleek, and fast.
2.3.5 Based.
Fast
Minimal deviations from stock
Three in one reboot mod
Extra Rom info in About Phone
Screen On/Off enabled by default
Ubuntu font
T3hh4xx0r Wallpapers
TMO Theme Changer
FM Radio
Stripped down God Mode for easy addons and nightlies downloads
Known Bugs
None?
Changelog found in rom under About OMGB
Downloads
Screenshots**
Thanks
Source
Twitter
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#r2gb on Freenode or use our Webchat​Donate
*Also on Rom Manager under t3hh4xx0r
**Screenshots are from a personal setup and my not exactly reflect the rom

neat, is this RC4, I assume? Also, most people like screen shots even though often it doesn't show much.
congrats on the ROM.
Does it have a built in kernel?

gah. why does everyone assume its cm. this is not at all built from cm. its build from my own source.
it looks like gb, nothing special to see, but im working on screens now

nice im going to try this out is this using sense?

is that download of gapps the 3-7-11 ones?

TheGratefulDead said:
nice im going to try this out is this using sense?
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no, aosp is not sense, its pure google android
TheGratefulDead said:
is that download of gapps the 3-7-11 ones?
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3-29 gapps. its the only one listed

Looks good.. I'll give it a shot!!!

Btw, this is the pure gingerbread rom that tazz was talking about on his thread the other day

Very nice.. responsive.. going to OC to try and squeeze all I can out of this dated machine but it's good!!

Anyone flash this after using gsb? Any notable speed/performance gains? I'm definately interested in a minimal, fast, lightweight rom just like this, it's just what an older phone like our eris needs.

wow!! great looking rom!!

is there any way you can add the option to choose affiliated network?

Thanks r2DoesInc - this will be fun to play with!

Zer0_Cool said:
Anyone flash this after using gsb? Any notable speed/performance gains? I'm definately interested in a minimal, fast, lightweight rom just like this, it's just what an older phone like our eris needs.
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Nothing I would call HUGE improvements but some.. a few things are a little more responsive but for the most part GSB is pretty slim as well .. It's a solid rom.. job well done!!

I've never been too fond on the CM based roms just because I feel like there are too many options for me so when I saw this rom I knew I had to flash it since i've been waiting for a 2.3 pure android. Currently on 2.1 pure vanilla and love it. This rom is pretty awesome. One thing I did notice though was the touch buttons on the bottom of the screen seen don't seem to light up when they are supposed to. Sometimes in low light conditions they will and sometimes they won't. That is my only "complaint" which isn't that big of a deal. Again, real nice work.

Will give this a shot in the morning. Been looking for a non-CM as well....Thanks!

Flashing later tonight.

Love the ROM but wonder what C2C options there are since I have some fairly large apps.

Allow me to get this out of the way....
Derrrr, Duz this have flash!??!?//?

Liking this rom!
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JellyBro vs JellyBelly

Hi,
Can anyone tell me which, for the moment, is better to a daily use? Which is smoother, stable?
Thanks..

skinner12 said:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me which, for the moment, is better to a daily use? Which is smoother, stable?
Thanks..
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Running JellyBro at this moment and it's very much to my liking Haven't tried JellyBelly, but I believe that not everybody likes it as he restricts flashing different kernels unless you first remove a script.

How about kalim's cm10 build?
Sent from my Nexus S using xda app-developers app

kwibis said:
Running JellyBro at this moment and it's very much to my liking Haven't tried JellyBelly, but I believe that not everybody likes it as he restricts flashing different kernels unless you first remove a script.
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Thanks.. So if it's blocked its not for me..
Nocerino's Rulez with RAScarlo's ROM features TriNitY

ioplkj13 said:
How about kalim's cm10 build?
Sent from my Nexus S using xda app-developers app
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Been running that one for a week (v0.6) Wish there was a newer version though as that one contained some bugs.
Can't say yet which one is more smooth, Kalim or Jellybro.
Edit: just saw that V1.2 is already there lol on G+ think I will flash that one for now ^^ and wait for Rascarlo to finish his rom
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111722836277981844223/posts/C8Ykk6Fvu3t

skinner12 said:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me which, for the moment, is better to a daily use? Which is smoother, stable?
Thanks..
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Wow lol xda never ceases to amaze me...
Sent from my Nexus S using xda app-developers app

skinner12 said:
Thanks.. So if it's blocked its not for me..
Nocerino's Rulez with RAScarlo's ROM features TriNitY
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LMAO, you trolling here? You knew from the very beginning that Jelly Belly was blocking other kernels.

I'm running JellyBelly 1.0.0 and it is very, very stable and fast. While it's fine to note that the dev locked down the kernal you should also note that this is specifically so he can fight bugs a little better.
Great rom, definitely recommend it!

anphrax said:
I'm running JellyBelly 1.0.0 and it is very, very stable and fast. While it's fine to note that the dev locked down the kernal you should also note that this is specifically so he can fight bugs a little better.
Great rom, definitely recommend it!
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And kernel lock can be easily overridden by deleting the kernel file in 'init.d folder.'

Oogway13 said:
And kernel lock can be easily overridden by deleting the kernel file in 'init.d folder.'
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Right. Maybe I'm new or ignorant or something but I understand the urge to keep things open and flash super cool kernals or whatever but using this method you can do what you want, but like always don't go to the dev with issues if you flashed your custom kernal.
Like I said though... great ROM, very stable, highly recommend it!

jellybro is fast and smooth.jellybelly lags sometimes

skinner12 said:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me which, for the moment, is better to a daily use? Which is smoother, stable?
Thanks..
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Been using Jelly Belly for about a week without problems and i would say it's ready for daily use. Hadn't had any reboots, FC's or other crazy stuff..i value stability with the basic functions such as phone calls and messaging and it hasn't let me down so far on that part. As for the kernel lockdown, it's a small price to pay for stability so i don't mind personally but i know some in here have taken a almost religious stance about it. However, you can still remove the limitation afaik and if not there are plenty of other ROM's to choose from

I'm using JellyBelly since 0.1.5 and i can say it run really smooth with thalamus kernel. Since it's already stable, i will just stick with it.
My favourite kernel before this is Air Kernel but since i didn't have problem with JellyBelly + kernel provided i don't think i'll need to flash Air Kernel. I might change kernel if there's new feature in other kernel.
So i recommended JellyBelly with it provided kernel as your daily rom.

xzilem said:
I'm using JellyBelly since 0.1.5 and i can say it run really smooth with thalamus kernel. Since it's already stable, i will just stick with it.
My favourite kernel before this is Air Kernel but since i didn't have problem with JellyBelly + kernel provided i don't think i'll need to flash Air Kernel. I might change kernel if there's new feature in other kernel.
So i recommended JellyBelly with it provided kernel as your daily rom.
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+1 me too
Sent from my Nexus S

Jellybelly 1.0 has the kernel restriction hard coded in it. Not the init d script.
You will not be running another kernel on it until he removes that.
And screw this thread. Try out the Roms for yourself.

I switched from jelly belly to cm10 jelly bro and really like it. Battery life seemed to take a hit after one of the nightlies so I did a clean install of the next and just put went back to the trinity kernel and things seem to have improved.

Jellybelly has been good to me, amazing screen on battery life (4+ hours daily w/ games most of it) smooth and stable
Jelly Belly powered Nexus S

As good as JellyBelly has been for me, it appears as though he's stopped development over all the *****ing. I guess it's time to start looking for another rom again.

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He must be going through a tough time, or just simply got sick of it ether way it's not the end of JB just yet.

Taubin said:
As good as JellyBelly has been for me, it appears as though he's stopped development over all the *****ing. I guess it's time to start looking for another rom again.
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I will be back with Oxygen, which is what I should of done in the first place.
Was just sick of everything I was reading, nothing will be released until I am 100% confident with everything next time, saves the hassle and aggravation of reading crap every day.

[Q] What ROM are you using and why, and how often do you change?

I'm a new Android user and loving all of the options out there in terms of Kernels, ROMS, etc, but I find myself being overwhelmed with all of the options out there. So far I'm pretty set with running franco Kernel (running r20 right now), but I find myself always wanting to try out new ROMs, and I'm hoping that doing all of this switching around isn't going to mess up my device but I just can't nail myself down to a ROM that I'm set with.
I had been running CM 10.1 nightlies, but just recently a couple of days ago I jumped over to MiNCO because of the support for franco Kernel.
Now I find myself looking at the Xylon ROM but am worried that jumping around from ROM to ROM is going to mess with my device.
What ROMs are you guys using, and why are you using them? I find myself that the most important factors for me are battery life/performance, quick toggles, and the power menu.

I havean EVO 4G LTE .. ever since i got the o.g. EVO I was hooked on them. But I use a stock with goodies Rom by flex. Its a great rom has everything I need and its super smooth
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I generally stick to CyanogenMod. I keep an eye on the changelog and flash new nightlies when things I want are merged.
I've messed with AOKP and MIUI in the past but they're not really for me.

Cyanogenmod 10.1 Jellybro because it has everything I need and is clean code (no dirty hacks). Used to be a fan of aokp but too many dirty code and unicorns for me.
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zephiK said:
clean code (no dirty hacks).
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cm is my favourite rom, but thats not really the truth what you say. in order to stuff in tons of devices that normally do not run aosp they have to stretch the base wide open with hacks. this is the hackiest rom in the android scene and it must be, otherwise people out there wouldnt know what android is. thats why cm traditionally never had so much traction on this plattform than on others, simply because uncompromised aosp is leaner and more optimized for android itself and the nexus plattform. on a legacy device i'd always suggest cm, thats obvious. on nexus cm may not be the obvious best choice anymore, because the others are likely faster, more stable, have less daily fallouts, and in some cases have more features, like aokp, if youre the kind of guy that likes that sort of thing. if i flash cm here, its because i like their creative/inventive spirit and would like to support the project overall. flashing is easy though, trying out a couple of em isn't that much of a problem. (-:

Paranoid android. Not even considered any other ROM since I flashed this one. Its just so amazing. I couldn't live without all the colours that change per app, and all the other features it has.
I suggest trying it out now.
Sent from my Nexus 4.

With my previous device, s2, I changed a lot, from RR to AOKP to CM etc etc, I like them all.
On my N4, I'm using stock until a really good-good ROM comes out, I don't have any problems, other than battery, so I don't panic, YET.

calanizzle said:
With my previous device, s2, I changed a lot, from RR to AOKP to CM etc etc, I like them all.
On my N4, I'm using stock until a really good-good ROM comes out, I don't have any problems, other than battery, so I don't panic, YET.
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Yeah other than battery issues everything else is a "nice to have" and nothing I "absolutely need"

I've been on xylon w matrix kernel
For battery customization and speed.
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For me its PA rom....Ive tried every rom because I love flashing lol....but this is an honest opinion from experience....I know best rom talk is not allowed but the best to me is PA rom because of one simple reason....other than stock...its perfect!!!! And with that being said I have No issues with it very stable..super fast...alot of features man I can go on and on....if you want your N4 running perfect go PA...there are some other good roms because we have alot of elite devs in here and im sure more are on the way...but to me theres nothing better than super wiping your phone just to make sure its really clean and flashing PA...all you can say is wow after that lol......and now I change roms everytime Moles and his crew update PA....and also flash Franco kernel with this and your N4 will be excellent....

I'm currently on liquidsmooth. I've tried rasbeanjelly, Xylon, codefirex, CM 10.1, MinCo and a few others I can't remember. All were great. I'm really like liquidsmooth. It's a great balance. I flash, sometimes 3 times a day.

Setup: Code FireX w/ Faux beta
CFX is the first non-stock ROM that I decided to try because it uses the Linaro chain and I was pretty curious about the speed.
Long story short, CFX's performance is apparent as soon as you start using the device, it had much needed improvements.
Oh, and did I mention the CFX settings? Synegye's special built in mods allow you to improve your experience even more. For instance I decided to use the 6 signal Wi-Fi/Network, center clock, smaller Nav Bar, as well as dual view. This package, when combined with Faux's kernel presents you with an unbeatable experience on the best Android experience to date.​

Ace42 said:
Setup: Code FireX w/ Faux beta
CFX is the first non-stock ROM that I decided to try because it uses the Linaro chain and I was pretty curious about the speed.
Long story short, CFX's performance is apparent as soon as you start using the device, it had much needed improvements.
Oh, and did I mention the CFX settings? Synegye's special built in mods allow you to improve your experience even more. For instance I decided to use the 6 signal Wi-Fi/Network, center clock, smaller Nav Bar, as well as dual view. This package, when combined with Faux's kernel presents you with an unbeatable experience on the best Android experience to date.​
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That sounds pretty intriguing, I think I just found the next ROM that is going to get flashed on my N4.

Nice discussion. Very interesting.
via Google Nexus 4

For reliability and just the right amount of mods for me it's been CM on any device I've owned 90% of the time. It's the least buggy for me, although of course, there will be the occasional bug along the way. Works beautifully on the the Nexus, although some mods may take longer to merge as other devices have to be taken into account.
Can't think of any "hacks" needed for CM to run on any Nexus, although much hackage needed for it to run on Samsung branded phones, and any other manufacturer that doesn't ship with AOSP and may be slow to release source. The kernel for the GN was less than impressive, but the N4 kernel is great.

Running stock rooted. Going CM 10.1 as soon as I get back home from vacation.
Skickat från min Galaxy Nexus

Stock with Franco kernel and you got the most stable combo ever seriously though. Feels very snappy while battery is great but also is really stable.
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I am flashing between a number of Roms daily. Change between cm 10.1, aokp, paranoid, slimbean, codefire. Currently on paranoid b9. I love the options we have on the nexus. It would be a lot less hassle for me if I don't have to restore my texts everytime. Still I pretty much flash a different ROM daily

kyokeun1234 said:
Stock with Franco kernel and you got the most stable combo ever seriously though. Feels very snappy while battery is great but also is really stable.
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+1 for stock with Franco.
No stable (official stable) roms out there yet that I like, and since n4 is my primary phone, I need my stability :/.
Probably will switch over to AOKP milestone or CM stable.

On past devices I've run with CyanogenMod (any variation), but on the Nexus line I tend to prefer staying with a stock ROM and a custom kernel (though I'm stock presently) for the sake of cleanliness. CyanogenMod is great, it's built by trusted developers, and all around well known for their great reputation. On the flip side, I tend to stay stock because I need to help other people out often enough that I start to forget which features were added by the CM team and which come with Android itself.

Currently the best custom rom?

any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?

italia0101 said:
any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?
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It really depends what you're looking for in a ROM. There are a lot of different ROMs that are currently available depending on what you want. Whether it's a stock feel (AOSP ROMs), customizability (AOKP, PA), CM10 of course, and more. I highly doubt anyone has tried all of the ROMs that are out there so go into the dev sections and do some reading and see what you like! :good:

Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.

The best custom ROM for me is CM 10.1's nightly builds. The best custom Kernel for me is franco.Kernel. Both together = awesome (for me)

Thanks guys . I realise its a subjective view but thanks for replying
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Whatever ROM you choose, I second using Franco kernel :good:

I've been running a CM10.1 nightly with no custom kernel, its been pretty solid. I might have to check out Franco's kernel though, I'd like to try out undervolting for better battery life and heat at some point.

brGabriel said:
Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.
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I've always understood this, but never really knew where to look. Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.

As others have stated, this is very subjective. For example, I'd recommend AOKP. Not because it's the best per se, but because it's the one I'm using and I'm quite happy with it.

scottws said:
Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.
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There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.

brGabriel said:
This is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?

dust. said:
Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?
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I honestly couldn't tell you since I don't own an OTG cable but you can flash franco's kernel and test it. If it doesn't work just reflash the ROM (without wiping) and you'll revert to the original kernel without losing any of your apps and data.

brGabriel said:
There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.

Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Personal preference. Nothing more

Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Seems to be by far the best kernel for dealing with the throttling issue that exists with our device so far...

Installed aokp . loving it.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

At this point, I've gotta give it to AOKP. Lots of customizability and very smooth and quick. Rotating 180 degrees has no noticeable lag for me.

Paranoid Android is one of my all time favs in order to maximize your tablet space by altering app DPIs etc (not that you need to with a tablet this large). MMuzzy's ROM is a nice AOSP replacement which is what I'm on currently. As far as kernels go, it's really up to personal preference. I'm on KTManta (ktoonservative) and it flies though sometimes I get the lockscreen (black) of death - not waking up from lockscreen. I bought Franco's app ages ago before I got a tablet and can vouch that he also builds a strong/stable kernel.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD

If anyones interested i made a AOKP video http://youtu.be/VNxdhF-nvec

[Q] stock google rom vs LiquidSmooth

Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.

Experience differs from user to user. The most conclusive way to get an answer is to try it out yourself. For me, PA has been just as fast as the stock ROM and had equally good battery life, but I have had the occasional random reboot. To me that's a miniscule trade-off for the features you get. You won't really get a ROM that's significantly faster than a stock ROM though because the hardware on the phone is good enough that everything feels fast.

tomer90 said:
Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
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I would recommend you try both and stick with the one that works best for you. Only you can determine which one you like more. The N4 is easy to install a custom rom on (even from stock). Plus with the backup apps out there you don't have to risk losing your data and starting over. No two users are identical and what works for one may not work for another.
For what it's worth, I've flashed back to stock/locked/unrooted because I never came to depend on the features the different roms gave me. I'm getting older and don't have the time to stay current on the different roms and features. All I need for my phone are apps/features that are found in the stock rom and the google store. Battery life is better on a custom rom but it's not worth it to me to continue my "flashaholic" ways. I still get through a day sometimes a day and a half on the stock rom - which is all I need. My use case could be drastically different than yours so don't do what I did unless you know it will work for you.
The developers here do great work and it's a great community so I would recommend you try them all to see which one you like the most.
Good luck.

You need to find the answer yourself.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 using tapatalk 2

its not about me testing for myself because i'm not looking for features or special stuff i can get along with everything i'm really just looking for the fastest most battery saving ROM, thats it, I play little to almost no games basicly mail and scanning and stuff like that(i'm a student right now) and soon i'll be writing some apps for myself for security purposes so I need something to really milk that Quad Core for all its worth so I also need some CPU tweaking apps(not sure if thats ROM related)

You'll be very happy with Sabermod or Rasbean both close to stock. Sabermod is the only Rom built using the 4.8 chaintool and is very fast. The battery life is also excellent. I recommend those 2 for a close to stock experience with some useful tweaks both fast smooth and solid.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Thank you for your input.
Any other opinions?
and by the way, excuse my ignorance but what does it mean 4.8 chaintool? what makes it faster then the 4.7 or the older ones? and since its really new im guessing, does it mean its less stable then the other ROMS? and when you say excellent battery life, its in comparison to all those other ROMS that aim for max battery life?
Thank you!

If you really want more battery life or smoothness then IMO you should just install a new kernel; Franco's kernel has great battery life but it still has better performance than stock, Trinity kernel is super fast and smooth, and there's loads more options available.
I'm running CM10.1 and Franco kernel and its very stable, barely ever have any sort of bugs or random reboots
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I run CM10.1. Close to stock, but has a few options that are nice to have especially if you like to customize your phone. There are other Roms that have more options, but to me, what's in CM is enough. It's really up to you.
With that being said, I recently flashed a stock rooted rom and got MUCH better battery life than on CM. I don't know if it was an app I had or what, but stock definitely gave me better battery life. I have tried kernels and Rom combinations, but always come back to CM with every single phone I've had. But, in my experience on the Nexus 4, stock Rom gives me the best battery life.

For me liquidsmooth is brilliant! Extremely fast while having tons of customization options. Pair it with matr1x and it really is a great combo for speed and battery life. This is only my opinion but it works for me. I got over 22000 on antutu with this combination (no overclock) while I think its around 17000 on stock. I also get significantly better battery life compared to stock.

if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels

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paul_viado said:
if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?

mastewman said:
Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
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Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...

playya said:
Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.

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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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Oh no I fully understood what he meant and my point was simply people unroot or stay stock to wait for an update. Whether you are rooted or not the update will find you in some form. Either with a rooted stock rom or a custom rom but rest assure that xda will not let an update happen and its not on everyone's phone :good: