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I had an Arc for 1 month, I really liked it but I couldn't live without a variety of custom roms
I am now on Sensation and thinking about the Xperia S (sorry no proper section yet),this upcoming phone is totally awesome in both look and features, BUT I am afraid XDA devs will not be interested again...
Though I think the only way to make it sexy for them is that:
-Sony send a free device(s) to known devs team like CM,Virtuous,MIUI,Modaco...
If you have other ideas then throw them here
Sony gave Arc and Arc S to CM devs, so don't complain
Developement is harder on SE devices than on for example on HTC decices from what I've heard - that's the reason why we don't have that much devs
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Sony Ericsson always used quite a lot of special hardware, especially when it comes to camera sensors. It's always been a challenge for developers to get those to work on custom roms.
The problem in 2011 is that there was too much time between the hardware release and the availability of certain sources and the bootloader unlock.
If they make sure the Xperia S can be unlocked right away and the sources are available fast then we might get a lot of development going on.
Then again, Sony doesn't care that much, the vast majority of users doesn't even root, so they focus mainly on the stock ROMs. And they are the best of all stock ROMs. By far. And the default software on the 2012 looks to be extremely good and complete.
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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Imo, they totally do.
You could check this e.g.
IMO SE has tried all hard to support XDA in terms of development let's hope under Sony's management they do the same.
Best way to make them interested is to buy them one with donations.
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It's very hard to turn a hTC dev into a Sony one,though a samsung one is easy because whatever galaxy series are good they lack the higher grade materials used by Sony,specially Xperia S which look like a portable Bravia tv
The X10 gave a bad taste to xda devs, the Arc was not well liked too because it wasn't dual core,but now the xperia S with it's very good CPU,12mp camera and HD screen should be perfect!
They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda and other forums adv spaces,the Google Nexus Prime is very well advertised for exemple,there is a remarquable ''push'' marketing
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They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
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So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
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I think it's because most of the developers was behind Dual core devices like HTC Sensation, Samsung etc. but we are making progress we have a great team of dedicated developers like FreeXperia Team. Now our device is under official CM chart. We have most popular custom ROMs like MIUI, CM and few stock based ROM. Lot of the other custom ROM's I have seen are most based on CM so doesn't make much difference. The exceptions are Oxygen, SuperOSR etc. Those developers are active with Nexus devices.
Unlike other devices Sony is little hard to develop due to heavy customization and hardware. Compared to other manufactures Sony has only few customers. HTC users stay with HTC, Samsung users stays with Samsung devices and upgrade to newer Samsung model but they hardly change from HTC to Samsung etc. So it will take time. I'm guessing by Xperia S release we might see few more developers because now we have more advance hardware people might consider upgrading to Sony. But I'm happy with the development what we have now.
i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
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Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
sahibunlimited said:
Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
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Based on my experience with LG Optimus 2x with unlocked and standard bootloader, it is very easy to bring back brick Optimus 2x by using nvflash/smartflash way. I can mess with partition size without worry about non bootable android device.
And now, android development in Optimus 2x getting rise, many new ROMs get published..
If Sony gives those flexibility with their phone(not to worry about brick phone as long it is related with software), I believe we can really mess with Sony Xperia S
Cheers
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i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I agree with DoomLoRD its better to have quality over quantity. Few ROMs but stable, fast, and beautiful instead of bunch of ROMs that hardly have difference from the STOCK one or improve nothing its pointless.
I don't agree with samsung actual users being loyal to the brand, most of sgs2 users are freshly converted people from symbian/bb/iphone to Android.They wanted the best specs from the beginning,though they are a little deceived by the poor plastic and design.SE Arc lacked the dual core and was sold at a high price which made people buy sgs2 instead, the Xperia S packs very good specs(12mp,dual core),superb design and appareantly nice materials!
So unless the sgs3 features quad-core cpu and also 12mp there are big chances to have people switching from sammy to Sony this time.
HTC fans are very loyal to HTC because of the Sense roms and super high quality aluminium materials,but some dudes like me who were SE fans in the past...we can come back to Sony again
Why should SGS II people switch to the Sony Xperia S?!
They should offer the same performance or SGS II should be faster due Exynos.
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SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Then I'll pre-order one for sure.
Thanks FXP Team for your great work.
Bin4ry said:
SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Now that we have your "official word" on the matter we all can stop worrying about developer support
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Right I know it's too early to guess regarding the development of the Z2, but I checked out the Z1 subforum, and I'm unimpressed to be honest.
The Z1 was released September 2013. The HTC M8 was released April this year. The M8 is fast approaching the number of threads/kernels/ROMS.
Why are the Sony devices being left behind? I'm still waiting for my Z2, but I have something in the back of mind telling me the M8 will excel with development and stay updated/refreshed longer.
Any thoughts?
I have an M8 and a Z1 - awaiting my preorder of the Z2.
I'm actually selling the m8 as I actually prefer the Z1 over it. For me I much prefer look and feel and to be fair the only thing that I feel I will miss will be the gestures etc. However I believe some of those will be on the Z2 so no biggie.
The other is the screen as the z1 is inferior in that dept. But most important for me the Z1 pisses all over the M8 camera everyday.
So for me development or not I'm happy with stock and the far superior camera (like I said that is very important to me).
Can't wait to get my Z2.
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This is something I am worried about too. Doesnt look like many developers / cooks are going for sony devices. M8 and S5 forums are already brimming with kernels / mods / roms (I know z2 is yet to be released worldwide) but there is only a very limited amount available even for z1.
Part fun of being in this community is the development. To be honest, I find it more interesting to follow a device that's an underdog from the beginning. I went and looked in the Z1 development part of XDA and I saw CM11 ,paranoidandroid... Thats enough for me by far. It will be fun to study how Z2 develops.
I have no fear, only joy.
This also bugs me a lot. I currently have HTC desire HD which came with 2.2. So far I have flashed 2.3 4.0.4 4.1 4.2 4.3 and 4.4. Till 4.1 I have flashed both sense and asop roms. Does Z2 will keep up like this?
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The good old Desire HD one of the best phones I've had. I'm still using a sensation at the moment because of the brilliant devs on this site.
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Lack of need for "development" was one of the reasons why I ordered a Z2.After four years of Samsung on my i9000 and i9300 and the need to root it to remove the bloat,wherafter "enjoying " the "development of CM / PA/ Slimrom etc ,and the frustration of the poor results of this development,
I decided to go for the best phone available atm because Sony stays very close to "stock "android the way I enjoy it on my N7.
Maybe from now on I can only enjoy this beautifull phone without ending up running around in circles as a "flash.a.holic" again.
For those who wish to persist in their "flashing" habits : good luck with it....
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The good old Desire HD one of the best phones I've had. I'm still using a sensation at the moment because of the brilliant devs on this site.
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Sony plan on releasing a new flagship every 6 months so they will quickly leave you behind in official updates, so really one would hope that they can benefit from ROMs.
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Lack of need for "development" was one of the reasons why I ordered a Z2.After four years of Samsung on my i9000 and i9300 and the need to root it to remove the bloat,wherafter "enjoying " the "development of CM / PA/ Slimrom etc ,and the frustration of the poor results of this development,
I decided to go for the best phone available atm because Sony stays very close to "stock "android the way I enjoy it on my N7.
Maybe from now on I can only enjoy this beautifull phone without ending up running around in circles as a "flash.a.holic" again.
For those who wish to persist in their "flashing" habits : good luck with it....
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Samsung S3 ownwers are left behind on 4.3,their choice : stay on 4.3 or use any of the CM/PA/Slimrom 4.4.2 Roms.
This leads to a phone with the latest android version,the price you have to pay for it: camera malfunction,bluetooth sound stutters and sound issues for heavy gamers are only a few of the problems.I went up and down between 4.3 and 4.4.2 many times and learned my lesson ;better stay on the version thats working properly ( Samsungs Rom )
Sony updates all Z phones to Kitkat in may,so even with a Z of one year old you are not left behind.
Even if Sony leaves me behind at any time in future I will remember the lessons learned....
I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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brouwerchris said:
Samsung S3 ownwers are left behind on 4.3,their choice : stay on 4.3 or use any of the CM/PA/Slimrom 4.4.2 Roms.
This leads to a phone with the latest android version,the price you have to pay for it: camera malfunction,bluetooth sound stutters and sound issues for heavy gamers are only a few of the problems.I went up and down between 4.3 and 4.4.2 many times and learned my lesson ;better stay on the version thats working properly ( Samsungs Rom )
Sony updates all Z phones to Kitkat in may,so even with a Z of one year old you are not left behind.
Even if Sony leaves me behind at any time in future I will remember the lessons learned....
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Samsung S3 has the exynos chipset, that makes it harder to develop for, but the kitkat roms on there aren't as buggy as you say, they will most likely be stable by the time Sony finally rolls out their kitkat update to the Z (possibly it's last update ever knowing Sony). I personally hate the idea of buying a Smartphone and in a year it feels ancient and like a thing from the past, I am not rich enough to update my phone so often and most contracts are lasting 2 years. The aftercare you get from Sony is too poor for me personally
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I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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Any idea of rooting this phone with locked bootloader? so we all can happily back up the TA partition.
While we're on the subject, is there a guide I can read explaining this Sony stuff? Mainly regarding the root process/DRM keys etc etc?
I'm new to Sony
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While we're on the subject, is there a guide I can read explaining this Sony stuff? Mainly regarding the root process/DRM keys etc etc?
I'm new to Sony
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This is all about DRM/TA partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
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I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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@krabappel2548: Might be too early to ask you this question, but doesn't do any harm to ask I guess.
I really can't wait to replace the stock ROM with CM, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to loose functionality that is ROM specific, most importantly camera functions. As far as I understand it is not possible to install the Sony stock camera in another ROM because it comes with a whole framework (which I guess can't be ported?!). In addition to that I'm under the impression that previous versions of the xperia Z shot better pictures in low light with the stock ROM.
Do you know if we're gonna loose the camera app and it's features or is it possible to port it over to CM?
If you could shed some light onto this issue, I would appreciate that.
Hopefully there'll be GP edition of this!
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@krabappel2548: Might be too early to ask you this question, but doesn't do any harm to ask I guess.
I really can't wait to replace the stock ROM with CM, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to loose functionality that is ROM specific, most importantly camera functions. As far as I understand it is not possible to install the Sony stock camera in another ROM because it comes with a whole framework (which I guess can't be ported?!). In addition to that I'm under the impression that previous versions of the xperia Z shot better pictures in low light with the stock ROM.
Do you know if we're gonna loose the camera app and it's features or is it possible to port it over to CM?
If you could shed some light onto this issue, I would appreciate that.
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No, stock camera app won't work on cm, but you can always use 3rd party apps
I'm almost finished with device tree for Z2
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No, stock camera app won't work on cm, but you can always use 3rd party apps
I'm almost finished with device tree for Z2
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Well, it seems like the Sony camera is way better than any 3rd party camera out there, that's why I asked. I'll open up a new thread and see where that takes us.
btw. do you think we will be able to backup the TA partition on the Z2? I still haven't rooted my device
I think as Android improves with every iteration, OEMs are slowly learning that simple is good. The stock feature set on the Z2 is fantastic, as in the camera. Less and less people are going to be willing to sacrifice things like the native camera app when the perceived benefit of switching to a custom ROM diminishes.
Personally, the first thing I did when I got my Z2 was install Google Now Launcher for a vanilla Android look and feel, but I wouldn't even consider doing a build of my ROM for this phone at this point in time because the stock features are brilliant a they are.
I don't think lack of development is an indicator of an unsuccessful phone anymore, but rather the opposite.
HTC devices are inherently going to have a lot of development as long as they continue with Sense, because Sense is such a user polarizer.
I think the current state of the factory ROM after .55 update is quite stable with some small issues. I am content with the current ROM. It is snappy, no lag and smooth. No carton-ish icons or effects like the Samsung phones
Just saw the news about Android L. I know it's in like beta and for developers only. But if this is the next big Android update. Do you guys think our Xperia Z1's will get it after its released? I mean like after taking in the time this Android L goes from developers only to stable release for nexus devices then finally maybe going to other oems.
Xperia Z got Kitkat, so there is a chance. The hardware is good enough newayz.
The ART change bugs me as none of the xperias have the option to change it on the developer settings
yeah for sure we will get it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger's_cat
This is useless speculation, there's simply no way of telling until Sony releases a statement. Besides it should have been in the Q&A section.
Thread closed.
Google announced the Android M update at I/O 2015 keynote. Android M takes Android L and optimizes the **** out of it.
- Better battery life
- Android Pay
- Fingerprint support
- USB Type-C
- Enhanced Google Now
- App Permissions
That's a power-packed features list, eh? More about Android M features here. Also, the Android M Developer Preview is already available.
I wonder if the Xperia Z1 would ever get the Android M update, seeing that the Android 5.1 Lollipop update itself won't arrive until August 2015.
highly doubt it!
Yes, an the Android XL also.
If the z had received lollipop, maybe z1 will get android m.......should be possible....
I also highly doubt Z1 will get it. As of right now, I only hope Z1 will receive a fully stable no bug (no battery drain, no sound vollume problem, etc.) 5.1. Besides, I don't think Z1 can get much benefits from M anyway (like those fingerprint support or usb-c or even Android Pay since it's clearly not available everywhere)
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I also highly doubt Z1 will get it. As of right now, I only hope Z1 will receive a fully stable no bug (no battery drain, no sound vollume problem, etc.) 5.1. Besides, I don't think Z1 can get much benefits from M anyway (like those fingerprint support or usb-c or even Android Pay since it's clearly not available everywhere)
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But under the hood improvements are always welcome
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But under the hood improvements are always welcome
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Sure an update is always welcomed. It's just that we shouldn't really get our hopes up. In my opinion, It's already Sony's best effort for Z1 if it get 5.1. By the time M is official released, Z1 will probably be way over the 18 month support period by Sony. But who know, just my guess, maybe Sony will surprise us (in a good way )
BTW, is there any dev working on porting Android M developer preview for the Xperia Z1?
I'd like Android M, but if we don't get it then 5.1 had better solve the issue with the mobile radio staying active and causing ridiculous amounts of battery drain.
I guess one thing to keep in mind is that the Z got 5.0.2, so perhaps they will only drop support for the Z given how different the hardware is, while the Z1, Z Ultra and Z1C all share very similar hardware. From what I can tell, the hardware hasn't changed all that much since the Z Ultra aside from the Z3+/Z4 which is using an octa-core S810 compared to the quad-core S800/S801 inside most of the rest of the Z series. Whether that has much sway on development time I wouldn't have any idea.
If they can include Auto Backup for Apps http://developer.android.com/preview/backup/index.html Also using your micro SD card as internal storage.... http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...or-accessed-normally-with-no-additional-apps/
That would be great for those who don't root their handset
Even Z can get updated to 5.1 i think Z1 can at least get 2 more major updates. So yes
Of course not. I understand we all love our devices, but guys, it's just marketing. However, let's hope someone ports it to our Z1, otherwise, we may need to buy something new in the near future.
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Of course not. I understand we all love our devices, but guys, it's just marketing. However, let's hope someone ports it to our Z1, otherwise, we may need to buy something new in the near future.
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Not really possible for me lol I just bought my Z1 1,5 months ago
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http://android.hdblog.it/2015/06/22/Sony-Android-M-Xperia-Z3-C-AOSP/ .. the answer is YES !
the binaries are up in the dev world of sony!
developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/tool/software-binaries-for-aosp-m-developer-preview/
i think it will recive M because the original z will also receve 5.1.1 so probably the z1 will recive the last android version as android M.
That's really nice! At least that smells good!
Sony will sell its mobile business before the Z1 gets M.
Android M for Xperia Z1
Good to know that even Xperia Z1 will get Android M update.
I did google to get some info. Below are some trusted links
neurogadget.com/2015/08/19/sony-xperia-z-z1-z2-z3-z3-compact-with-android-6-0-marshmallow-update/12855
developer.sonymobile.com/2015/06/22/android-m-developer-preview-available-for-xperia-devices-in-sonys-open-device-program/
Also there is tutorial on how to install Android M preview on Z1 at ibtimes.co.uk/how-update-xperia-z1-z2-z3-android-m-developer-preview-freexperia-rom-1510292
Enjoy...
All xperia flagships have lifetime support .
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
[edit] http://www.phonearena.com/news/No-Nougat-for-your-Android-phone-You-might-want-to-blame-Qualcomm_id84543
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
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Well, just as I thought. I have some hope on developers here, but considering how little work has been done with AOSP and CM I can't expect too much
ridiculous they were teased with devolved Android n
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Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions
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Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions
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Personaly I would go with OP3 or nexus devices. Good specs and developer friendly.
I like OP3 and Xiaomi mi5 but I would miss the SD card... I would consider Huawei P9 or LG G5, but these have poor developer support. Any alternative?
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Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.
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Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.
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I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.
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I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.
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I would have hope if it wasn't for the fact that we don't have an official CM13 yet. All the builds of the CM12.1 are even nightlies and don't offer the audio and camera quality that Stock has. Let's be real, Sony sucks at open sourcing and the community can't do magic
Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.
iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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The Z3 is an really nice device. Sad to see that Sony say goodbye to us. I hope customs ROMS can help.
I have Android Nougat 7 Preview 4 running on my Xperia Z3 (and it spontaneously reboots 24 times a day which is a major problem that hopefully the real version will fix). I mean how can they NOT release a real version of Android Nougat?
Well the user base did come together and made Sony change their minds about Xperia M2 and lollipop update... At first it was cut out after which Sony later decided to roll out lollipop for that model...
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I think z3 shouldn't use mm or lollipop rom. Because the device will be very hot and it'll make touch screen died. I know someboby have to replace thier touch screen.
Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+
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Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.
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Meanwhile, Apple released the last iOS 9.3.4 on the iPhone 4S, released in 2011.
Talk about standards. SMH.
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Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+
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This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.
brianpee said:
This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.
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I imagine it was a decision by Qualcomm to force people to get new phones so they sell more chips. And I bet we don't see and 801 devices get official N. Only 805 and later
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iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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That's mean if kernel sources is out, we can build Android 7 rom without Unlock Bootloader?