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[Q] How to use SuperSU?

Hi,
I got an update on my LG G2 D802 and i have ROOT, i downloaded SuperSU because someone told me that i can update my device with it, but i dont know how.
Can someone explain me how to use it? what should i do in the SuperSU to update my device?
Thank you.

Uh...i don't think supersu can update your device. All it does is handle root.
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ckyy said:
Uh...i don't think supersu can update your device. All it does is handle root.
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But i saw that it have OTA Survival in the Settings.
Are you sure that i cant to update with it?
On my previous theard i asked if i can update, and someone told me that he updated his G2 with the SuperSU, but i dont know how to do this too..

itaylubo2 said:
But i saw that it have OTA Survival in the Settings.
Are you sure that i cant to update with it?
On my previous theard i asked if i can update, and someone told me that he updated his G2 with the SuperSU, but i dont know how to do this too..
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OTA survival means that when your carrier sends out an OTA update for your device, you should still have root afterwards. Normally without OTA survival you will lose root after updating. SuperSU has nothing to do with updates, it is simply a firewall between apps and the root of your device. :good:

If you have OTA survival turned on in SuperSU, AND you have stock recovery, then theoretically, you can do the OTA update and still have root when it's finished. But it isn't 100% successful.

Also OP...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443934

souleman said:
If you have OTA survival turned on in SuperSU, AND you have stock recovery, then theoretically, you can do the OTA update and still have root when it's finished. But it isn't 100% successful.
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I have stock recovery, so i should turn on the OTA Survival in the SuperSU and to start to update?
I saw in the settings of the SuperUser that it have also OTA Survival, should i turn it on too?
Thank you.

DO NOT DO OTA'S IF YOU ROOTED. Period.

khaytsus said:
DO NOT DO OTA'S IF YOU ROOTED. Period.
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I received an ota last night (whilst very drunk) . I have a rooted but otherwise completely stock rom with stock recovery and the ota installed without a problem and I remained rooted even though I hadn't set my superSU to maintain root. My system updated from 10a to 10f.
It would appear that an ota will install with root as long as you have stock recovery and have not made changes to the system partition. (apart from the su binary of course.)

bobsie41 said:
I received an ota last night (whilst very drunk) . I have a rooted but otherwise completely stock rom with stock recovery and the ota installed without a problem and I remained rooted even though I hadn't set my superSU to maintain root. My system updated from 10a to 10f.
It would appear that an ota will install with root as long as you have stock recovery and have not made changes to the system partition. (apart from the su binary of course.)
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Yes, but I like to keep things simple for people.
Recovery is what will get you, or a modified ROM. But.. Ah, it doesn't matter, people will do it anyway.

itaylubo2 said:
I have stock recovery, so i should turn on the OTA Survival in the SuperSU and to start to update?
I saw in the settings of the SuperUser that it have also OTA Survival, should i turn it on too?
Thank you.
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You shouldn't have SuperSU and SuperUser both on the phone. Remove one of them (probably SuperUser as it doesn't play well with some things).
It is recommended not to do an OTA if you are rooted. If you wait a few days, someone will have a flashable version of the OTA on here.
Having a modified stock rom very rarely causes any issues. It can, but it doesn't very often. 99% of the time, it's because someone is running a different recovery, and still blames it on the ROM. But unless your ready to flash it back to how it was when you opened the box, just wait a couple days.

souleman said:
You shouldn't have SuperSU and SuperUser both on the phone. Remove one of them (probably SuperUser as it doesn't play well with some things).
It is recommended not to do an OTA if you are rooted. If you wait a few days, someone will have a flashable version of the OTA on here.
Having a modified stock rom very rarely causes any issues. It can, but it doesn't very often. 99% of the time, it's because someone is running a different recovery, and still blames it on the ROM. But unless your ready to flash it back to how it was when you opened the box, just wait a couple days.
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But i have stock recovery and stock ROM, it is matter?
I realy dont know what to do when the Kitkat 4.4 will comes...

itaylubo2 said:
But i have stock recovery and stock ROM, it is matter?
I realy dont know what to do when the Kitkat 4.4 will comes...
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To be safe you could always unroot your phone before updating since everything is stock you won't be losing much and you won't be taking any unnecessary chances. Plus the root might not stick with such a big update even with root survival so you might have to reroot it again after the update anyways.
This is pretty much the same thing everyone had already said, I don't think anyone here would tell you it's worth taking the risk -even if it's just a slight risk since you don't have a custom recovery installed- that will only be saving you the few minutes it'll take to reroot your phone.
Sent from Sprint LG G2

kcerica said:
To be safe you could always unroot your phone before updating since everything is stock you won't be losing much and you won't be taking any unnecessary chances. Plus the root might not stick with such a big update even with root survival so you might have to reroot it again after the update anyways.
This is pretty much the same thing everyone had already said, I don't think anyone here would tell you it's worth taking the risk -even if it's just a slight risk since you don't have a custom recovery installed- that will only be saving you the few minutes it'll take to reroot your phone.
Sent from Sprint LG G2
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How i Unroot my phone? just doing Factory Reset?

There should be an unroot option in the supersu settings
Sent from Sprint LG G2

itaylubo2 said:
How i Unroot my phone? just doing Factory Reset?
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Uninstall SuperUser, then in SuperSu there is an option to unroot the phone.

souleman said:
Uninstall SuperUser, then in SuperSu there is an option to unroot the phone.
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I downloaded SuperSU, and after i delete it.
and i did Reboot, and the Superuser dissapeard, but i still have ROOT, i can use Freedom, Market Unlocker and Auto Hide Soft Keys.
Now i downloaded SuperSU again, and i saw in the "Description" that the SuperUser should be removed when i download the SuperSU.
If i'll do Full Unroot from the SuperSU, it will work on LG G2 D802 with stock ROM&Recovery?
Thank you very much !!!

itaylubo2 said:
I downloaded SuperSU, and after i delete it.
and i did Reboot, and the Superuser dissapeard, but i still have ROOT, i can use Freedom, Market Unlocker and Auto Hide Soft Keys.
Now i downloaded SuperSU again, and i saw in the "Description" that the SuperUser should be removed when i download the SuperSU.
If i'll do Full Unroot from the SuperSU, it will work on LG G2 D802 with stock ROM&Recovery?
Thank you very much !!!
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Yup. Full Unroot in SuperSu will delete the files from the /system partition that give you access to root.

souleman said:
Yup. Full Unroot in SuperSu will delete the files from the /system partition that give you access to root.
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It will work for 100%? In the Root Exporer, i search in the /system/bin for the "su" and i didnt found it, also i didnt found the SuperUser.apk in the /system/app, i can find only in the /system/xbin the "su" file.
It should be like this? because i saw some videos on Glalaxy Note 2 that he have all except the su file in the /system/xbin..

itaylubo2 said:
It will work for 100%? In the Root Exporer, i search in the /system/bin for the "su" and i didnt found it, also i didnt found the SuperUser.apk in the /system/app, i can find only in the /system/xbin the "su" file.
It should be like this? because i saw some videos on Glalaxy Note 2 that he have all except the su file in the /system/xbin..
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There shouldn't be an su files after unroot. Is either superuser.apk or supersu.apk in either /system/app or /data/app?

Rooted G2, still received OTA update

I have rooted my G2(D802) in stock rom.
Will I still receive Official OTA update?

1. you will, but the device will refuse to install it because it's rooted
2. you will, the device will install it and your phone will only root to recovery (if you have custom recovery)
those are the only scenarios I know of.

csunny95 said:
I have rooted my G2(D802) in stock rom.
Will I still receive Official OTA update?
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Yes the update can sill show up and after ignoring it a couple of times it will force itself to install and either a)if you have custom recovery you will bootloop and if you were using twrp there is a way to remove update or you will need to go Back to stock, b)if you have modified system, installed xposed or removed bloat it will refuse to install because those are things that can only be done with root and so will give message won't update because it's suspected of rooting and there are ways to make it so that it won't update but I don't remember
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app

Stock ROM needs

Hi. Can anyone help me with the latest stock rom which I can flash thru recovery or ODIN? need rooted ROM.... So I can switch easily without rooting after flashing the stock ROM.
THANKS
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Stock ROM is possible to flash only by Odin.
Imho rooted stock doesn´t exist. You must root it after instal.

easiest way to to flash latest available rom for your region/carrier using odin, then root using towelroot. i'm using the latest uk btu which is still FNB8. I've tried loads but always seem to come back to this setup, it's the most stable for me.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you want to be able to root/unroot at will?
Easiest way I found is if you have custom recovery Philz. With this you can go into Philz setting, restore root and then install SuperSU from store. Then to unroot just choose "Full unroot" in SuperSU app and you're done.
You can also use twolroot to root the phone then install SuperSU to full unroot.....although I've found that this can take a couple of attempts of rooting/unrooting before the UNROOT will hold for some reason. At the moment I'm on totally stock ROM, stock recovery, but I rooted with towelroot to make some adjustments using xposed/wanam and to edit the snd_soc_msm files for louder music and remove bloatware using rootexplorer, and have now finally got unroot by rebooting/clearing cache at each stage of the process (i.e. when i root, when i install supersu, when i update the binary in supersu, then i reboot one more time once root is confirmed working, then full unroot and uninstall towlroot app and reboot/clear cache once more).
So now I have a sort of custom stock rom without root, sky go player working. Perfect setup until I get brave and a new update comes out.
::EDIT::
there are also pre-rooted stock roms in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
not sure if the procedure for unrooting would be the same though? or even if you can using these roms?

S4 Question - Messed up root

I used towel root to root my S4, and I somehow allowed an auto update, which downloaded the updated, tried to install but failed. But I lost my root.
I am running 4.4.2 - Kitkat right?
So I don't have root, and I cannot update my phone - Is it possible for me to root it again? If so is there a link to instructions?
Thanks in advance, the DoridForums people sent me here -

Randy72560 said:
I used towel root to root my S4, and I somehow allowed an auto update, which downloaded the updated, tried to install but failed. But I lost my root.
I am running 4.4.2 - Kitkat right?
So I don't have root, and I cannot update my phone - Is it possible for me to root it again? If so is there a link to instructions?
Thanks in advance, the DoridForums people sent me here -
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I dunno what you are running.
1. You can take a look in your Settings - About device (Pic attached).
2. Try again Towel Root if you still running android 4.4.2 for root again your device.
3. Tell us how it works.
* You can download OTA udpates but you can't install them when you are rooted. Root your device modify system. It changes of OFFICIAL to CUSTOM. OTA detects it and give you a error when you try to install the update.

Ok attached is my about phone info -
I just tried towel root again, and it says this phone is not currently supported. So again, thought I would see what my easy options might be.
I can't post an image or links, Android version says 4.4.2 - If that's what you need? If not let me know which number you need

Use CF-Autoroot to root instead of Towelroot. While CF-Autoroot requires the Odin software to use, it's far more consistent in its results since it temporarily replaces the existing recovery with a recovery that will install SuperSU into the /system partition. Unlike Towelroot, CF-Autoroot is version agnostic, meaning it will work regardless of the version of Android installed.
There is an entire thread on CF-Autoroot. Hit the search bar at the top of the page and I'm sure you'll find it.

Cant access root without kingroot. Need superSu

What is this Whenever I uninstall kingroot I lose my root access.. I rooted my phone from CF Autoroot, means I should have SuperSu installed but whenever I tried to update binary it used to show disable knox and I did it, I completly uninstalled Knox and now whenever I try to update su binary it says installation failed. Reboot and try again.. I tried sever times but same issue Even I googled and followed dufferent method but su-binary didnt updated and I am forced to stay in kingroot :/

I lije king root

Have you tried flashing supersu.zip in recovery?

Yes, sir I tried from TWRP

It says: There is no SU binary installed, and super SU cannot install it. There is a problem. .

GDReaper said:
Have you tried flashing supersu.zip in recovery?
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Help sir

Athakuri700 said:
Help sir
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I think the problem is kingroot. It may prevent other superuser apps from installing properly.
If you want supersu, start from 0 (reflash stock) and root it with cf-auto-root first.

Isnt there any alternative way????

KingRoot is only useful if other methods of rooting are either unavailable or not working anymore. If you have a GT-I9505, you can do some trick to root your phone with Towelroot by downgrading kernel using the KitKat one and reflash using the stock Lollipop one right away after rooting.
My suggestion to reflash stock first (like @GDReaper said), and try Towelroot or CF Auto-Root method.
Sent from my GT-I9500

I think another way to root would be to flash TWRP and install supersu from TWRP.

I didn't like KingRoot, and found it very invasive. After it is installed, it continues to slam remote servers for no apparent reason.
KingoRoot seemed 1000 times better and their SuperUser app seems fine. However, the only way I could get SuperSU installed, was to freeze KingoUser/SuperUser and then install SuperSU, then install to system. Reboot and done. I just had to keep Kingo's SuperUser frozen to avoid any problems.
Hopefully this helps.

audit13 said:
I think another way to root would be to flash TWRP and install supersu from TWRP.
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Audit As I earlier said.. It says: There is no SU binary installed, and super SU cannot install it. There is a problem. I flashed through TWRP

krasCGQ said:
KingRoot is only useful if other methods of rooting are either unavailable or not working anymore. If you have a GT-I9505, you can do some trick to root your phone with Towelroot by downgrading kernel using the KitKat one and reflash using the stock Lollipop one right away after rooting.
My suggestion to reflash stock first (like @GDReaper said), and try Towelroot or CF Auto-Root method.
Sent from my GT-I9500
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Brother.. I am in Kitkat only. And I used CF Autoroot to root my device

Did you try removing all traces of previous supersu installations before flashing via TWRP? Which version of supersu was flashed through recovery? The phone has the latest releast of TWRP?

@Athakuri700,
Your phone model?
Sent from my GT-I9500

Its s4 gt-I9505 kitkat 4.4.2 baseband XXUGNH6.. yes the TWRP is of latest one as I flashed from TWRP Manager app..

Not sure if it makes difference but try reflashing twrp using odin, then flash supersu.